 worked with all of these death royalties, but you and Snoop never did do a song together. No, man, Snoop, you told me you ready, man. Come on. Oh, my bad. My bad. My bad. So what was the, what was the, what do you think? I know he had Nate to rely on for, like, a lot of focus. I got love, I got love, oh, my homies will be rollin' with me. I don't know with Snoop. You kinda hear the dog pound kinda talk about it. It's like, you know, they say they interviews about we had Nate and da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. I don't know if that's what Snoop felt. I didn't feel like that because Nate and I don't sing the same. We had our sides and you know what I mean? Like, so when I hear a lot of people and I'm not saying Pac was just privy to, with Shug's people. But when I hear people saying things like, let's say for instance, if Pac wasn't getting along with Shug, so to say, she would've known that. I gotta ask you about, man, just Shug night, man. You was with them early. I gotta get back to the music because I done stepped over something. You know, when you're playing in your plate, you know that ain't right, man. So I gotta get back in my bag. You were one of those guys, man, that you worked with, all of these death roddies, but you and Snoop never did do a song together. No, man, Snoop, you told me you ready, man. Come on. Oh, my bad. My bad. My bad. What was the, what was, what do you think? I know he had Nate to rely on for, like, a lot of focus. I don't know what Snoop, you kind of hear the Dog Pound kind of talk about it. It's like, you know, they say they interviews about what we had Nate and da, da, da, da, da, da, da. I don't know if that's what Snoop felt. I didn't feel like that because Nate and I don't sing the same. This baby, I love the way it's going down with no lies. No, at all. At all, like, and I'm not gonna even play with myself to play like it. Yeah, yeah. We do two different things. Nate is the king of what Nate Dog did. They got my homie end up and they all around. Ain't none of them seein' me, they goin' straight down for pie. You know what I mean, did and do. R.I.P. to Nate, yeah, that was a- R.I.P. to him, but I just think that the time, you know, there was two sides of death row at that time and, you know, I was mostly close with Shug and Poc was around Shug, so that's who I work with. Didn't really get that opportunity to work with Snoop, but I look forward to that real soon. How was two Poc and Shug's relationship at the end? This is a gloomy place for people. You know, how was it? Were they friends? Were they, was there a dilemma? Were there a drama? Even Snoop, you hear all these stories. I've asked, I asked, can you wear that? I've asked a lot of people I've interviewed about their relationship. You asked who? Can you wear that about Poc? About Poc, she says- None of them, all of them went out, you know, what she say? She said that she basically was saying that he was- Cause she was around him. Yeah, she was around, she said. Okay, finish. She just said, she basically would tell a story like, you know, she was there, Poc seein' her before he passed away, he was in good spirits. Seein' her where? She was there that night at the fight. Her and Nate's wife. They mama, okay. Yeah, baby mama at the time, maybe and wife. But she just, she seemed like there was a good place except for Snoop. She said Snoop was not in a good place with Poc when he passed. That wasn't accurate. They didn't ride together like that. No, it wasn't, that wasn't accurate. I mean, a lot of the things, L.T. Loved him to death, but that wasn't accurate, you know? He's just puttin' somethin' in there to soothe it up. Yeah, it wasn't like that. Cause you wasn't, cause you was down there that night when it happened. No, Poc did not insure we're not talking to Snoop in them. We were, it was everybody. Period. No, it was no talking. So they basically, it could happen on site if we see them too. On site. Don't fuck with me so I can stab at everybody on this mother. This is a five and a half hour flight. Don't nobody say one word to me. Not one word. Because two weeks prior, he gets on the radio and you know, he says he's cool with Biggie and that infuriates everybody. Like, you know, we don't know what happened in New York, but if this boy is rollin' with him, you gotta roll with him. And you know, Snoop crossed the line to me, you know? Cause Poc, he loved him, you know? He loved him. He generally loved him. And you know, that hurt Poc to the core. Cause he thought that this guy was ridin' with him. He hurt him. So he died not even having no count of love for Snoop. I mean, it was, nobody was gettin' along at that point. Nobody was gettin' alone. They were on their side. So Snoop wasn't at the hospital? No. So that's a lie. Well, you can come to the hospital now when I was at Snoop. Cause you was at the hospital. Snoop's mother and auntie flew down there with me. She went down there to represent Snoop. Okay. Monday. It happened Sunday, late Sunday night or between Saturday and Sunday and we went back down there Monday. Dazz didn't go down. So was that about right? She knew that? Yeah, she told me that. I say she knew that. It's not what I actually... Oh, she said she... That's what she told us so evidently. That's what she knew. I don't know. Well, I mean, you know... So was that not correct? I mean, again, you know... I wanna hear from your perspective. We had outsides and you know what I mean? Like so when I hear a lot of people and I'm not sayin' Poc was just privy to with sugar people. But when I hear people saying things like, let's say for instance, Poc wasn't getting along with sugar, so to say. She wouldn't have known that. Okay. Why? Because her baby daddy wouldn't have known that. Snoop wouldn't have known that. That's real cause that's Dazz. Because he's hanging with Bloods, right? So Poc's not gonna go over there and talk over there to Dazz and corrupt and they baby mamas and it was probably something that probably everybody was feelin'. You know, somethin' goin' on, you know. Like I grew up and figured that somethin' was goin' on with my money and maybe snoopin' all of those guys figure that as well or Poc may have figured that out. But for people to talk like they were in the click of. I get it. The only people I think are privy to that is like the outlaws. Yeah. I'm not even privy to knowin' what. Cause Poc wouldn't have said nothing bad about sugar in front of me. Correct, that makes sense. Why would he? Because it would have been a problem. I would have told him. Period, motherfuckin' point blank. You would have told him. Fuckin' yeah. Like at that time, sugar woulda known this nigga ain't happenin'. Cause you loyal. No, nigga, why you ain't happy? Those are the kind of meetings we had. What? He had guardianship over him. Yeah. So they had a close relationship. So that was the hell of a thing. That was an intense meeting. Yeah. Give me a story on somethin' of meetings. You just got me thinking now. Our red room meetings and our death row meetings. What the hell was y'all doin' these meetings? When things, if things and you know, if somethin' didn't go right on Snoopin' them side or you know, on Sugarman's side, you know, Snoop was the one to fix it and Snoop people was the ones to fix it. They had old Gs that fixed it. You know, it wasn't like a bunch of bloods that's gonna beat on these crypts and these crypts gonna beat on these bloods. It was organized, shit. Like the homies checkin' the homies. You know what I mean? And when things wasn't right, we was sittin' in a room and, you know, we would pull those things right as men. But everybody knew what death row was about. It wasn't, we wasn't men that was, you know, meetin' in a corporate office. Ooh, these was niggas. Exactly. Meetin' in the office, you know, about millions and millions of dollars and dreams and it turned out to be some brilliant niggas that had to be in that room because their work showed it. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. One on one. Yeah, we gon' talk.