 I love the premise of the show Smart people talking about dumb shit. I think it's dumb people talking about smart shit Oh, we go where we're not supposed to go baby Yeah, Charlemagne the guy Andrew show we are the brilliant idiots in this week's episode of the brilliant idiots podcast is brought to you by Us we don't have any pre-record. Okay, so we could just start the show Shout out Adidas salute Adidas, man I got the first text message I come in from my friend Julie that goes what did Charlemagne do I go? Oh, no, and then it's Kanye West Thing where he just goes Charlemagne and Kris Jenner. I don't know. He just we to get your popcorn ready I don't know what Kanye was talking about. I have no idea, but he does that all the time Yeah, he goes into his rant modes on Instagram. Yeah, somehow or another. Yeah, my name is gonna come up Yeah, in the right. Yeah, which is interesting. You know what I mean? I actually um, this was a watch a few weeks ago cuz like me and Kanye go back and forth, right? He'll call me about something I Won't agree. Well, and he's he said this on his interview with Jason Lee on Hollywood unlock We'll argue we'll curse at each other blah blah blah, but I did I reached out to him a few weeks ago Just to see how he was doing. Yeah, you know, um, I didn't hear back because he changed his number all the time But I let his people know like yo man, tell him I'm sending him positive energy, whatever whatever, but I don't know where that Came from nor nor do I care But it made it seem like you were talking to Kris Jenner or something. He talks about me like I'm one of the elites It's actually kind of flattering bro. Like it's always the Clintons Charlemagne No, it's really I'm telling you man, sometimes you don't understand how people perceive you but I'm like damn If I'm one of the elites, are they are they the elites? Would they be considered elite? I mean, you're an elite Yeah, I'm talking about like can get you got You know way more people that can get people got than the elite. Yeah, but get you got it. Nobody knows No People we talking about CBC bro, you know that's DBC is what is it ain't talking about the Congressional Black Caucus. I'm talking about that Well, no, but that's that's how you know, you elite because when the people you beef with they don't get killed they kill themselves Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah are are yeah, you make it look like that. Well, that's what I meant. Yeah, okay I don't think No, but I'm serious. You can be that elite to where somebody's like, yeah, I might as well. Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah Since my like you probably should bro. Yo, I think there's take note No, like cut it with the drive-by's Drive-by heart attack We drove up Heart attack just thinking about what you might do to them back, you know what I mean Yo, that's a great point though. That's next level the elites. Don't kill people Their enemies die. They jump off a building. That's right. They have right, you know an aneurysm I read something in Russia. There's been eight businessmen Over the last six months who have either committed suicide or just had like some random Accident and I'm like really. Yeah, like really in January. I'm like really. Yeah, I guess you really believe that Yeah, but hey when you control the press, this is what I said I really don't know what's going on with Kanye, I don't know what the stuff is with Adidas What is the thing that did is want to make a sneaker like One of his designs, but and I can understand that without his approval I guess yeah If you if you created a design which we know Yeezy has been very instrumental in doing as far as we know If he's if he's created these designs and then you know Adidas is coming in like Creating sneakers with the same design. Mm-hmm. I don't know how that happens unless they Contractually are able to do that. I mean, I would imagine they're contractually able to that's what I would think of course now listen, I don't know the contract, but I imagine they're contractually able to do it, but He doesn't like that. So he's using public scrutiny and shame Yeah, and the reality is is like sneakers are hype None of these sneakers are so high performance like speakers have become so good that like you can run in pretty much anything You'll be okay. You can play basketball pretty much anything. You'll be okay So now it's all about height and you hire Kanye for height, right? So if Kanye shuts down the hype on a sneaker and calls it a knock off Yeezy who the fuck is buying that? Yeah But I mean the thing about Yeezy and I salute Yeezy because what Yeezy has what Kanye is built with Yeezy is incredible You know, I think they generated like 1.3 billion dollars for Adidas last year But Adidas is a 25 billion dollar company like Adidas is This the sneaker in a paroline a company of soccer, bro Yeah, world's biggest sport like all the biggest football players in the world are our with Adidas like once again They're a 25 billion dollar company not saying that Kanye didn't bring them so much cultural relevant relevancy for a certain audience Absolutely, positively big for sure, but it'll be okay. They're gonna be okay, but like they weren't popping in America Like I think I think Kanye made Adidas really pop in America Popping America since run DMC, bro. I mean, but we never stopped the way I mean at least for me I never stopped wearing the shell toes in the Adidas. You're 70 years old I Never stopped wearing the shell toes in the track suits, but I do I do agree Kanye Absolutely positively made Adidas culturally relevant to a certain generation. Yeah a certain demographic But it's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. Yeah, it's just an interesting strategy It's like is it though? Well, I think it's I mean you saw Dave Chappelle do it with the Netflix I think didn't do it like this Well, the approach is a different Dave was on stage Dave actually said may I please have Whatever back after explaining his position, right, you know direct Yeah, he explained his position. Yeah, and then he told people not to watch it Yeah, and what Kanye is basically doing is saying we're not buying that we're not wearing that That's not easy. That's a fake easy which is in effect The you know basically saying hey, don't buy it and at the end of the day if Adidas is putting out a sneaker The people aren't gonna buy they just show it. So he's a lot of power I think a lot of orange and yellow so that they keep posting with the X over you like it That should look kind of fire. I probably wouldn't get it because it's not easy Design of it Kind of fire. Yeah, exactly. It's the price of 300 you need the final price of 300 because they couldn't afford the fan I just wonder if it's like well, I think Kanye has a percentage of the company, right? Didn't they give him like a huge? I think it's a royal he gets like 15% Royal on Yeezy itself on just Yeezy not Adidas on Yeezy Okay, easy as a yeezy is a subsidiary inside of Adidas Adidas, but I mean I Think the numbers 15% I could be wrong. So that means Adidas is the other 85 But Adidas is doing everything else Manufacturing they're doing the distribution, you know, they're doing the promotion the market Even though there's probably no bigger marketing than Kanye just posting on his Instagram page. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know how it plays out. Um, it is weird though Because it's one of those situations where it's like you took the bag, bro You wanted the money you took the money and then it became incredibly successful and now you crying Yeah, and it's just like You you took the bag and then I'm not a hundred percent certain but I imagine that when you Sell your IP and you sell your product Adidas definitely owns IP which is why they're able to continue to colorway and continue to redistribute other brands other sneakers that he's already done I'm sure they own the IP and that's what you give up when you agree to take the bag And you got a great bag and that deal was brilliant the way he did it and I think it made him a billionaire It's still brilliant and it's sober and he still gets to make his stuff But that is the cost of doing that deal if you wanted to do it by yourself and do all the infrastructure and everything by Yourself maybe you couldn't have maybe you couldn't have made I think he maybe tried before when he was earlier in fashion and wasn't a success There's no question now He probably could be because he said it's such a men's success But that is the cost of the deal it's kind of annoying You keep seeing this happen over and over again where people take the bag and then they complain about the The rules that come with the bag and the problem I have with that because you're absolutely right is that nobody seems to have like Consistency even with how we perceive these things I Remember everything so I remember when there was the rents and the raves about I need infrastructure I need somebody to help me design and Adidas is where you chose To go you chose rules you chose and by the way, even if you didn't choose those rules You can negotiate your rules. You're still Kanye at the end of the day Yes, you're Kanye So a lot of this stuff that you know, you might be complaining about now Negotiated in the beginning you could have went back and negotiated after like once it's like you're an athlete Right, you're with a team. You know, you're gonna have to resign They would rather resign you earlier if they know you're a fucking superstar Oh, that's a good analogy because it's like what he's doing now is kind of like what NFL players do because he's it He's under contract. I think until I think I read 2026 So he's like no, I need to be negotiating now I see how much money how much motherfucking money y'all making so I'm gonna hold out and and to be honest with you, I Understand his perspective and if I'm someone who wears Yeezys Yeah, I Want what Kanye wants because you're protecting I want what yay wants is that a thing? Well, no, it's Drake. I want with Kyle. I want what I like with Drake. Oh, I like what Drake like, but uh, I'm so old I'm like, is that a thing I Guess it like if I wear Yeezys, right? Mm-hmm I don't want to fake Yeezy floating around by the same company because it's gonna devalue my Yeezys like every time I see like a team Jordan. Yeah, that kind of looks like a Jordan You're like, why do we even have this around like you have a Walmart version of the sneaker that like we all love and cherish that's and that's disrespectful to Kanye because it's like That means Adidas doesn't look at Kanye. It doesn't look at Yeezy as a luxury brand Well, they do and they're trying to create the can be what is the opposite cheaper version They are and they're trying to use the equity that he's built and that's why you would do that to a lot If it was a real or a brand you think they'd make a knock you think Gucci would make a knock off Gucci I mean Lexus got Toyota Usually most brands have like a luxury and then a mid-level. Yeah, I mean teams Jordan got team Jordan Yeah, you know, I'm sure there's a version with like Nike and then just regular. Yeah, and it's a really smart thing It's like you use the equity of that that one That's hard to buy and it's hard to get it sells out everywhere and then you have a more accessible version of it It's a great business But I can also see as someone who just wants a luxury brand like if you just had Gucci Regular I see why he's frustrated, but you also took the deal took you wasn't frustrated when you got a billion dollars in your fucking bank And that's my thing too. Like, you know Everybody we always gonna have respect for Kanye and the things he's done in music and the days he's done in fashion But it's like man when you're when you're when you're good when Kanye is good Slavery was a choice We were too hung up on race, you know, we shouldn't just always be so focused on race boy But when things don't go right for Kanye. Oh now suddenly so impressed and he's so marginalized Do you know what I mean and the white man is doing them wrong and now you're talking to your wife And you're saying things like why do you get to have all to say so because you have white? Well, guess what man? Guess what? Marrying half white women is a choice Okay, that is just the reality of the situation. Do we need dr. Umar to speak on? Need dr. Umar to have a conversation with our good brother Kanye, I would I love for you to moderate that Then for you to moderate go one question is a moderator, okay, dr. Umar Johnson Yeah, could you please explain all good brother Kanye West why marrying half white women is a choice? I Am totally against it and I want to make sure you understand why Because I want to have a name for okay, no bunny crisis Okay, I'm against the snow bunny crisis and I want your white listeners to understand Because people be trying to say stuff like He's the black Hitler. I'm not the black Hitler I am I am in no way interested in hurting or harming the life of any human white Asian Chinese I believe in respecting everybody the reason I'm against interracial marriage in being Charlemagne is because marriage is an economic contract Most women do not marry down in status. They marry up Have you ever seen a rich white woman marry a broke-ass black man? No, you have not and you never will because marriage ain't about love It's not colorblind and it is totally economic I Man has been cursed by the snow bun We could do a saber it's just scrambling listen. He does it he does it every time and I don't even want to say people fall for what people just buy into it. Yeah, like he's got everybody Posting like it's a black square Remember when everybody was posting the black square Yeah, it's like everybody's posting that adidas Exed out. Oh, is that a thing now? Yes. Oh, wow. Everybody was doing it yesterday. So it's like listen man I if they did steal his idea. Well, it's not it's not exactly that's that's the key I don't know if it is though that we have to look into that. I cannot believe I Truly cannot believe either the amount of decisions that you have to go through in order to put something in production And then the contact with the factory Yes, and then getting the blanks made and the materials ready and then processing all the especially with all the what is it called like? You know, we have the problems getting things Oh, the supply supply chain supply chain everything like making sure all that's good getting them into production I cannot believe that they would just overlook a fact that they're not allowed to do it Yeah, and I don't think a multi-billion dollar company would do that because they know that's an easy lawsuit It's not like Kanye is broke. You know what I'm saying Kanye could sue the shit out of Adidas If he wanted to if they were doing something that wasn't uh, you know in the contract here's a question I have I thought that Kanye had 15% of the whole company I didn't realize it was a easy loyalty thing cuz I mean I could be wrong I thought I thought it was that he gets 50% of the road is can you look that up? I look maybe I thought it was cuz he got and maybe he gets it because if he gets a percentage of the whole company I bet the company's thinking why is this guy mad? You're gonna get a piece of every one of these fake easy We put out I did see him No, it's not that he don't get none of that money, but if he did if he did that's what I thought I thought he got a piece of Adidas. No, no, I think it's just for the easy brand So under the partnership Kanye retains a hundred percent ownership of the Yeezy brand with full creative control over words See that's what he owns that I feed it. Yeah, well you got that from say just so I mean I was Google It's not they don't have a website or nothing Interesting that's a great deal then so listen if that's the case. He has every right to be mad He has a hundred percent ownership of the Yeezy brand. Yep. Ah the mouse it is our cut mouse get on the mic mouse Why you gotta pause man show love to your brother You said the sneaker so the sneaker that we're talking about So this so he started complaining when the when when Adidas went crazy and they did the Restock a few months ago, and then they was releasing like new colorways new colorway So that's not Yeezy right the what is that like YZ why like that's not easy Okay, that's a that's the Yeezy sneaker under Adidas. We know that. Yeah, the Yeezy brand is those clothes Yeah, like the paper mache clothes looking like shit like On it sneakers Yeezy those are that's the Yeezy sneaker for Adida, but it's not 50s and all that aren't you that's Adidas. I Don't believe that. No, no, I don't percent believe it. Yeah. Yeah. Tell me all Kanye West sneakers are not with Adidas They're all with Adidas. Yes, but those aren't that's not covered underneath the Yeezy Hold on. I thought the knockoffs weren't under Yeezy If you go if you go look at the Yeezy site if you go look at the Yeezy site or if you like going stock as well You're looking for Yeezy Is you're gonna pull up a whole different thing then those sneakers that were just released with all the new colorways And now he's complaining about yeah, so that's the difference. Yeah, I'm not if he owns a hundred percent of Yeezy Yeah, they can't do anything with that. Oh You talk about why is he why he can't do nothing with bone. Okay. They can got you got You got you got why okay why the sneaker that the deed that comes on that that's Adidas, okay? And that's pretty much what we've all been saying like you sign that you sign it Boss up and buy yourself out of it what you boss up and Buy yourself back. He can't buy yourself back is crazy I Get what you everything shows you saying is true But you know like you said if you wanted infrastructure and it was infrastructure You didn't have and you do a deal with a company that gives you that kind of infrastructure You know I mean I mean I guess at this point It's all you can do is get people to repost you on um, you know, so I think that's the waste That's the waste right like you could use that. I mean like you're really going through shit. I'm buying them shits, bro I'm buying them not The latest wave run is a crazy. Hold on. Let me show you these these the ones I'm talking about You know the ones that everybody They put the so initially the sneaker doesn't have a lace Adidas released a new version with the actual laces going through and that's crazy. Yes. Hold on. Let me see that this right here These right it looks like like it look like a Batman Like one of those Batman cars. Let me see. Yeah, that's terrible. You don't like these God The Bro, you can listen you can wear those with Kanye's merch Now these are really fire if you think about it Think about it This is more European a lot of Americans don't get Right here, bro. I live in America. I'm telling them. She's right on top of Halloween. Yo black and orange Witness I don't celebrate. I'm trying to tell you know, I don't like you show my good. This shit is straight It looks like somebody By the way, Yeezy, I mean Adidas is slipping by not letting these be a yeezy though. These shit were a yeezy Yeah, but he's now I don't think I don't think that I don't think it's not that he doesn't want it I think it's just the fact that he feels like um, yo y'all biting my shit Which I get no, but I think he's jealous that they improved it. I Think I think I think that they made a more fire sneaker and he's he's trying to shut it down Now, how do we know Kanye's team and him didn't design this and this is all Look at that and look at the other sneak look at the I don't wear these but the fucking Those slippers that just came out they came out of right that's all that is they just brought together and put a lace through it Yep, and they need the same exact And it looks like Yo, you're right. Yeah, this is too. This is too yeezy sandals welded together Wow, wow, bro, I stand with yay on this one, bro I Me and Kris Jenner stand with yay. I don't listen man. I hope Kanye gets like like any creative I hope Kanye gets what he deserves him. He deserves it I used to get wild yeezys. I know I got cut off that guy That's right, I'm gonna still support my guy. You don't got no yeezys. Well, and now you looking that's my body knock off Now you're back All jokes aside the reason I love Puma and the reason I love Yeezy is because you got 40 plus yo people designing these shit This shit is comfortable, bro. Yeah, they're thinking about us 40 something How old are the people sewn it together if you Know nobody want to have that conversation though what you start having that conversation about child label everybody get quiet Mm-hmm, you know that I mean because then we start realizing all our own hypocrisy. That's right You know what you're not quiet. We just turn the music up on our phone exactly and guess who's making that Shit salute the Kanye I hope he gets trying to get up trying to get a writing job with Everything he deserves, but I do feel like I do feel how do you feel about this show? How do you feel about? you know just interracial relationships I believe in them What I believe in them Why is that a wild question? I believe in interrelations. I believe in interracial. I'm Scottish with with that's an ethnicity buddy Your race is white Africans in Europe, bro, okay, but they're not the Africans of Africa. No cuz we're not in Africa, but we're African We're all in our solar Africa. Well, you nigga. Nobody in Scotland words for us But it's look at what we do we invented fried chicken in Europe. Did you know that you invented it? We're based on your region. Nah, I invented it in Scottish. No, we invented before America. We invented before y'all Why you don't know the origins of fried We invented fried chicken all right number one We wear face paint and skirts and shit that Africans invent fried chicken African Americans African Americans. Yeah No, we didn't know no, that's not no we did no no we did because Nora and I'm right after In the beginning stages of I think right after slavery or beginning of segregation. I don't know what wait We used to sell fried chicken dishes time. I'm the fuck. What do you think? Stop everybody stop from Scottish See how they silence us You just said no, no, no, I don't mean just said I don't know if it was It wasn't slavery That they just thought I'm selling they had a fried chicken so what some a white person invent it was pretty known like a white person I'm not giving up the Colonel Sanders, bro I said they made a taste good, but they had a show to slaves how to make it That's not true. Where the fuck they was trying chicken in Africa What you mean? Where were you? Where were you deep-frying chicken? They might have learned that here in America from who? Hater Can you look up a Zulu warrior and put it next to Braveheart and tell what? Look up a Zulu warrior when he's ready to get busy Because you know the reason that they used to use chicken because chicken was a cheap meat I did it but to fry it was a cheap me. How y'all play us, bro I mean it's a delicacy to me, too, but at the time Fucking There we go see look just the almost frying and braising chicken Yeah, right there boom see American fried chicken has his origins in slavery. They used to sell fried chicken Yeah, I'm not arguing. I'm saying but Scottish people didn't have to fry that somebody had to teach them Google what fried chicken is Fried chicken Look started in the American South some people think the recipe came from Scottish immigrants some people be in the show It's this however show just many beliefs. It was bought from Africa Oh Wait, what's up? People have fried chicken and tap dancing They call it scoons Then We invented freedom look we invented freedom the finish off is hard He's not racist when he danced in that little side here came out that was a Irish dance No, but the side is a dreadlock. No, when I said lock. Go look at go look and see Because he got the computer See if scottish people in dreadlocks look up break hard tell me Mel Gibson His name from a Scottish person We all the same yes Wow, bro, how the tables turn. Oh my god Listen, this is the brilliant idiot's podcast. Okay. What else we got Taylor. Oh What what happened what else today TV y'all like TV? What do you see that? I don't even know that. I don't even know it. Any of that shit is listen. Not anybody uses Let's steam hammer. You don't got a gun That's what that is Europeans really where the earliest civilizations with dreadlocks, of course we did Damn, I got a look up so we might have more in common with the Scottish than I'm telling you bro All I'm hearing is that there was a lot of black people in the Scottish region. That's exactly it I'm white African Oh Bob Marley was what? Scottish part Scottish. I'm in the earliest. Thank you. That's where he got his soul from Invented Ray gay, bro We put the rat Oh Yes, bro I knew he was have white or something type go go to where the dreadlocks originally come from but but but See where he's you click that window click the first one where people will also ask. Yo, we've been hated the police. I shot the sheriff I knew that the police was Scottish ancient Egypt is the true birthplace of dreadlocks Thank you. Yeah, no say it again. You heard it Consume a few sand it the first police were what first police were Scott exact keep your enemies close the first police were nice guys They were no, they weren't they were the first police were slave patrols in Virginia, which are Scottish people Which were Scottish people. They were enemies close and your enemies Yo go go go go to the north. No, I wasn't doing that. Yes. We were The word is actually Scottish. No, it's not a police. 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I want everybody to take a deep breath a nice Woosa Come on Woosa Woosa Tiffany Haddish airy spears What are the thoughts? I don't think Tiffany Haddish should be wrapped up in this Okay I've seen the clip. Yeah, I don't think Tiffany Haddish should be wrapped up in this. I've been saw this That's what I'm saying. This is old. This isn't yeah, I saw this video years It was on funny or die. Yeah, I mean I saw it. Yeah, I literally saw it like years ago It was like 2013 2014 but shows go I really want to hear your perspective as a comedian Cut it out Come on, yo Come on man. What about it? Which one? I always saw one road tripper. What was the movie shooting? No, man the sketch with airy spears No, no, I saw that shit, man. What'd you think? Um Not funny enough for how gross wasn't funny or that's the we wasn't funny. We know that Yeah, I never thought it was funny when I saw it No one paid any mind to it back then No, that's not the only reason nobody paid any mind to it The other reason nobody paid any mind to it because whether people want to admit it or not And nobody does because nobody wants to be cancelled that kind of content was so the norm From movies the television to sketches for whatever reason where they went Yeah, a little extra. No, it was not. I can they I can tell you by the way, I'm not going to do that If y'all want to cancel people you do your own fucking homework Okay But I can point to so many movies that had scenes like that. I mean I think I'll give y'all one Yeah, what's a movie because it's a it's a movie. Nicole Kidman and berth In that movie She thought that her husband was reincarnated as a 10 year old Yeah, there's a whole scene with them in the tub together and you know throughout the movie. She's talking to him sexually, right? Yeah, and it's like Back and I had to look this up because I'm like, you know, they had to be backlash for this back in the day And it was it just wasn't no end You know what I mean and back then the movie studio Stood next to Nicole and said no, this is art Well, yeah, because white woman like that that wasn't going like there wasn't when you said that I was like I never heard of it. But when you started playing I'm like, yeah, there was no it's Nicole I think there's I think it's also like female to male pedophilia isn't looked at as bad Hmm, I think if they were black it would be different I think if that I'm not saying that that's not the case But I think that like when a girl does something to oh, yeah, it's a little less because it's a it's a it's a male It's a little it's like a female teacher fucks a student. Nobody cares Yeah My teacher but when it's wrapped around wall like oh that's disgusting. How did you yeah And how many comedians have made Michael Jackson jokes? How many comedians have made all kelly jokes? And you know what? I was having this discussion with somebody yesterday and they was like, well, you know It's different because there was kids in the actual video But I'm like, well, you know, depending on what you believe there's actual victims in the Michael Jackson situation But you know what I mean That's the difference like it's like I know it's just got to be funny, man. At the end of the day has to be funny I don't think there's no way to make that funny And I love comedy. I love people that push the limit, but I don't think that could I don't think I don't care It was nothing funny about that And it was and it was not funny because of the way they were joking about it There's ways to make that funny. Yeah, but they were just doing the thing instead of alluding to it So it's like if if the in that sketch of the pedophile is trying to control himself And the kid keeps saying things that would turn on a pedophile, but he's got to pretend like it doesn't turn him on There's the tension that creates funny. Yeah, just rubbing baby oil on a kid's back or having him pump his super silk or whatever like that Like it just No, I don't have funny words. I get what you're saying and mouse is right, too You know, like Tiffany Tiffany called unnecessary straight because at the time she's an up-and-coming comedian, you know what I mean Aries is just coming off mad TV. You know, Aries is like, yo, I got a sketch I'm working on some other things Blah blah blah. I want you to come be a part of the sketch She plays the the kid's mother in the sketch not just to find it not making it right But I can see how something like that happens plus man The the the the question I'm constantly asking is At some point we all have to have a real conversation about old content, bro Because we come from a different era where a lot of things that shouldn't have been funny Or shouldn't have been talked about or shouldn't have been made fun of People used to and it was a point where if you weren't going far You probably weren't going far You know what I'm saying as is the truth to the matter shock value everything was a thing whether it was okay Shock is okay. I think we're done, right? Yeah, I think shock is okay. I just think that like for commie. There has to be some like misdirection There has to be some tension and and like that sketch just failed and Doing that. So I think the sketch was more of a failure. I also think it didn't help the fact that like The allegations came first and then we saw the sketch So we're watching the sketch and now you're pre you're filling in the holes Yo, look at these pedophiles. Yeah, and here's the proof So now watching this sketch going like wait a minute. Did he like putting the baby oil on the kids back? Instead of watching it go and look at these hilarious comedians. Here's their sketch they made and then we'd go Ah, this wasn't funny. But like I see what they were trying to do. Yeah Which happens all the time we look back at stuff now I didn't see what they were trying to do though. I mean, I guess to your point because that's when you when you look at the sketch It just looks like, you know They're just look making fun of touching on kids I guess what I would say is like in order to do a sketch like that You got to be so far removed from wanting to do anything to a kid Come on. Now we I'm not listening. I don't like I don't think that they're actual child That's what I'm saying like you would never if you actually were you would never do a sketch like that because it outs you Well, I don't know Drill rappers would beg the different lyrics Hey drill rappers would beg the There's a lot of drill rappers that would beg the difference. I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt I'm just saying I think what we're forgetting about this situation here is I don't think anyone would have paid it Any mind if Ari Spears would have shut the fuck up about old girl. Oh, no, that's not true No, that happens all the time That's not true. No one would have paid this any mind. That's not true. No, I'm gonna tell you I don't know why I would have paid any mind That's not because they're like who the fuck is Ari Spears? But now he's in the line. He's in the spotlight for this and this woman who's mind of business Ari's is like the B side of this whole story Like if Tiffany had anybody that's a star like Tiffany and you get Child molester next to you and somebody accusing you of that it's gonna be a story, bro Like that's what it is like it just Yes, like she's the she's the she's the main draw in this if if if if it was just Ari's It it wouldn't be a story if it was being that is Tiffany and Ari's I didn't learn about this story until he says something about that girl. I understand Because but no the person didn't find a lawsuit till after I understand what Who's weak? No, no, I understand what you're saying like I think what you're saying is In order for it to become a story you need an a-list celebrity. I get that and Tiffany's that But I agree with you, which is nobody's gonna go digging for it And trying to make Ari's look bad If he doesn't say that about Lizzo. We see this all the time. But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I get what you're saying, but this isn't that kind of situation because a woman filed a lawsuit This isn't somebody on twitter who found the old clip and said hey look at what Ari's was doing Oh, wait a minute. The lawsuit is separate Yes, man. Wait, what? A whole other a woman that used to be Tiffany's friend filed a lawsuit against Ari's and Tiffany had This has nothing to do with about what? About the sketch. Those are her kids in the sketch. Oh, she said her kids are traumatized. Oh Oh, well that now it makes it even fucking weirder because Didn't she allow them to do this right? You just allow you allowed your kids to do this Oh, no, this has been going on for a while. She's been she's been wait So now you're trying to get them for a while now you prove my point If this has been going on for a while and we just caught wind of it now It's directly because Every spirit in his mouth. No mouse. No They the woman filed a lawsuit After the Lizzo situation. This has nothing to do with Lizzo. This has been going on for the past few years Yeah, had nothing to do with Lizzo. I'm saying the she just filed a lawsuit last week I'm saying the public seeing it in this being this big array. It's directly affected to No, it doesn't matter. Does it yeah regardless regardless she filed the lawsuit Sure reference this video People went to go look for the video and she somebody put the video out with the lawsuit as well They know what they you know, I mean, they knew what they was doing But once again, man, I'm telling you people were making these kind of Jokes Sarah Silverman She tweeted one time. Hey, is it considered molestation if the child makes the first move? I'm gonna need a quick answer on this. She had to apologize for years later But my point is and will always be for some reason People used to make these kind of jokes. I think was it ever acceptable? No, but was it accepted? Yes But it's much like we say about twitter back in the day, right? It was the wow. Wow. There were no balance Oh my god. No, I think we're creating civilization as we go. Oh my god. So now we know What's allowed? What's not allowed? What's too far? What's not too far in To whatever have it works out for you. We acknowledge that we're going too far. Yeah, we back then I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you what I mean by that Do we acknowledge the actual issue or do if it's somebody we don't like then we go extra harder to act like We're against whatever in real time in real time Because it depends on that's the thing about being a fucking asshole, right? Like that's the thing about Be like even I'll take me for example, right? Like even you know coming up in the shit and like knowing who I am and being like All right, well, I'm not somebody who's always gonna agree with it and I get a kick out of my opinions All right, if I'm that unlikable I'm going to have to deal with some shit Same thing with everybody here. We all have to deal with some level of bullshit because we're our our Our foundation is rooted in like the uncomfortability of it. Oh, you get I'm saying even if we did My son's absolutely right But even if we weren't those people we're successful And when you're successful, they want to see you for it's gonna come with a group of people who just want to see No, it's really just that some yeah, but I think lebron has a lot less people. I want to see him fall then All of us do though proportionally. Oh, all of us do though. That's what I think sometimes we get caught up in like Social media and we think that's the world and those people that are constantly telling you that good job. Good job Good you you ain't no not good job. Fuck you. You ain't shit. Blotty Blotty. You think am nobody likes this individual But yo, everybody has more supporters than people who don't support them. Yeah, I agree I just I don't know I think that the weird thing about is like seeing an actual child do something sexual and knowing that adult told them to Do the sexual thing and that to me makes it different than like just saying words And what you just said Schultz and and maybe it's different in the the tiffani airy's thing Um, and you see how you can put tiffani for us, but I shouldn't have it's different in the airy's tiffani thing Um, or it's different with a stand-up comedian because there's no checks and balances, right? There's no child with a stand-up. There's no child. There's just a joke being told to do anything There's no child getting baby oil put on them. There's no child in a bathtub with you. There's no kid So what about the movies? What about the movies who depict these things? That's why why why did the talent check it? But why does the talent always get the fall? Why not the writers the producers the directors the production company the network that aired this shit The person has to agree to it. What do you mean? Like the guy is like, well, so everybody has to agree to And balance it but everybody has to agree to can't do shit in the movies. You gotta sign consent form That's what I'm saying. So the parents got signed the consent form. It's weird. The person who's responsible for him is the parent We don't got to tell all the stories, bro. That's another thing. It's like it's for the art and second I don't need that story. Yeah, that's what I agree with I've agreed with that not just in that instance, but I mean we've all said in the black community It's like, you know, we don't need another slave movie, bro. We've we've had them, bro. I don't need I don't need every story, bro. I don't need every I think in regards to slavery, sure We like overkill it, but I think some stories should be told that way Some things can be addressed because if you don't really depict things All the way through like to its core. We can't really learn from the mistakes So, you know to watch it we can correct it and be like, uh, that's why we have documentaries That's why we can talk like we don't need the kid to we know what molestation is We don't need to act it out. I don't need to see a kid fucking scream and hold a mattress. You can fade to black Yeah, like You can see the adult walk in the room and fade to black and kind of like I also feel like that would have doubts too I feel like that like we don't need to always see a woman getting Right, we don't we don't need to see that. We don't need to see does it not hit the same in the documentary when she's talking about it Like you need a you need a visual like think about when they see us It was good, but I'm saying in a sense of we I think we had this conversation not too long ago Or was it with jock and he was like, you don't got to say the n word to get your Oh, that was weird. We're talking about I mean you kind of do jock was talking about the f word Oh when kindred was at the f word on uh, and that song it was necessary. I Well, that's where me and him disagreed. No and that song it was necessary I agree because you know why because if you listen to that song, he's speaking from the aspect of By somebody who didn't know any better by the end of the song. He's not saying it no more. He's saying the f word Yeah, let y'all know this is how I've grown this how I've evolved but back then This is what we used to say. He even said it like a child Right, he said it multiple times like with it with that little high pitch He said it as a child But by the end once he's learned and talk to people in that community talk to his aunt who transition He's saying the f word now. Yeah, that's great. That's great. I just feel like visually We don't know he's got see that shit, bro. I don't I don't need like when I was doing about it with a white guy doing that same thing with the n word. No Uh I mean, they do it in movies. No, you're right. No, they do it in period pieces. She's right They do it in period pieces all the time. I'm not mad at that. No, but that's not by the way That can get you can't that's the that's the wild part, right? Yeah, if they wanted to they could go back to jango And get leonardo the caprio out the paint and couple that with the fact he's like 25 year olds and say he's Isn't it funny if they don't this this is tricky this is tricky one because you need to depict Mark this alex. Just no You gotta have white people saying the n word and being awful to black people if you're doing Movies because we're depicting how atrocious slavery is if back in the day white people are talking to black people Hello, sir. Would you mind putting that? It's not really or if they or if they're like No, we don't believe it was that bad or if they're filtering out the n word where it's like you motherfucking piece of garbage, you know, like, yeah, no This is the other thing. Do you know how much of our culture we lose? If we get rid of everything that was toxic and inappropriate Are we lose we definitely lose all our favorite rational we lose every movies Everything i'm watching juice over the weekend. I love juice. Oh, yeah It just would get canceled Absolutely. Oh my episode is supposed to be in high school Smashing the nurse smashing Cindy from invoke who was a nurse her husband's sitting there like man You're taking this safe the children should a little too far. There's a point The biggest hater There's a point later in the movie where they start arguing and she goes I'm not one of your little high school friends. No shit. So now you're So now you're admitting that you know, you have culpability Like come on Even though like remember they got Beyonce and Liz over the Spass thing Them talking the way they was talking about, uh, bishops father Added bishop bishop in two pots. Oh, yeah That was schizophrenic. Yeah, so they was talking about them all crazy. They were and by the way it packed them up for that That's right. It just wheeled a little right and it's not just a hip hop thing. It's an american culture thing American culture black white if you were in entertainment It was wild culture. I think collectively the industry from tv Yeah movies to audio the comedy Everybody just put out one mass statement and say look that was you weren't up. You weren't here You weren't around for the 1990s and the early 2000s and the 80s and shit was wild. Yeah, it was the wild wild west. Yeah, we know this Okay, but we've evolved. Everybody's evolved Entertainment is evolved. We're not on that no more. So if y'all find some old shit Regardless of what it is. I don't care if it's the comedians in blackface I don't care if it's No, no, you got to stop because if you think that's there was never a time where that's funny What do you mean blackface? It was all from the time it was happening people were saying this shouldn't be happening That's not true. Robert Downey jr. That's not true. That's not in Tropic Thunder. That's not true. Not funny You had you had late night. That was a good one Jimmy kimmel painted his whole body brown to play calm alone. Nobody said anything Jimmy Fallon put blackface on to pretend to be chris rock like And that was on SNL. These were big time major network shows and I was a kid when that happened And I was hearing people like that. I shouldn't happen. He whether you never heard that mouse Well, I'm not saying you didn't I just I never did here's the thing that people don't Is discussion people don't want to have because a lot of people are not and myself included not as well versed in what blackface actually was right like blackface like painting White people up as the black samba character. Yes And having them act in the most insulting way and stereotypical way to black people Is different than just looking like yes a person who is famous now We've blended these things into the same thing But they are separate one is for the purpose of being racist The other is for the purpose of doing an impression, but it'll go it almost those are separate things Yes, I agree, but it also goes back to what me you said earlier what we agreed upon was We don't need every story. No, no, I need every We didn't need I think if like like right now we can't sit here and name a single blackface character or movie Right, like can you outside of Robert Downey? No, no, no, I mean talking back in the day On birth of a nation the first brother nation like all those people what he means name the person they only I don't even know say me name the person name or name the movie Just like just like the character that was so offensive that like Oh, well brother, but they well so Sambo what you said about the Sambo character. Well, Sambo was a that was that was yeah That was an architect to be disrespectful So that's one but also the other function of that of blackface back and back in those days and christa prize speak on it Um a little bit better than me Uh, it was to make sure they didn't have to hire black people So they were painting up black people back in these black and white film. They just painted a white person That's an old minister shows about I mean, but that's two reasons why blackface Is not okay. We're not we're not arguing why it's we all agree. It's not okay, right? What I'm saying is like if we were really familiar with What these characters were and how disrespectful they were And the purpose of them got you I think that we could probably differentiate between an impression of a famous person And just the straight disrespect of african americans Yes, but can we see where that line merges? But the fact that we're not as familiar all of us are just not as familiar with these characters We just go, you know, why the fuck is this white person dressing up like a black person paying their face? That's like that shit that they used to do that's disrespectful. Fuck this And and to be honest, it's not up to me to decide if it's right or wrong, right? But I think the more familiar we are with our past We we could at least go there's levels to this and go Maybe jimmy felon isn't as bad as the guy who is it was amos and andy Yeah, maybe it's maybe it's not as bad Maybe it's that's not that was made to make black people feel bad and laugh at them And this is made to make carmel lone feel bad, right? He should be made to feel bad, right? And I think you still can make fun of him And you don't need to the paint. Yeah, you know and you can actually do the voice You can do that. You could do the whole thing. You know who gets to decide that black people You guys get to the side. Yes, what the rule is because it's you. Oh, no. Well, listen if you want to take the comedic risk Oh, I do you think everybody can decide You just got to deal with outrage that good. I guess what I'm saying is like each culture gets to decide Like what they think is going too far, right? And where the line is for them and that's up to you guys and then the people can take the risk And I think what we're trying to tell you guys we don't know But now we do There was a time we did there was no line, bro Yeah, there just simply wasn't and everybody can sit around and act like that's not true Absolutely, I agree with you. There was my major point and that's but that's also why I give so much grace because even when you say something like no, you can't forgive this person for blackface. Whatever. It's like bro, if they did that to us No, if they did that to hip-hop coach you but it's not That's a false equivalency. No, it's not every time you said that to me. I said back to you. It's a false equivalency I'm gonna tell you why I can tell you some things right now that some of your favorite rappers have said which I won't because once again If you want to cancel somebody do your own fucking homework You'd be like, oh, shit because guess what it goes against everything you said you care about you just said you got to protect children Yeah, you know what I mean? My point is none of us But when when it comes to content no it comes to content Yes, should be a clean and should be above reproach, but when you flipped it That's all I'm saying. I I agree with you. No one's above reproach I didn't like the way you you flipped and you said if they did that to us Oh, you mean if they did that to us on top of everything else that's been put on us No, I'm just I'm just talking about from an entertainment content perspective. It's you can't it's you can't we can't We can't marginalize it, right? We can't isolate that and say like oh just in content Even black people's voice being heard in the content space was a way harder fight than What what that's my point? So it's like yo, just what they do, right? They'll Two things happen in these situations Black people hear old content from other black people and weaponize it against black people like people that they may not like May not agree with and they use it against them And then white people use it as a way to be like well, I don't want to fuck with them no way Yes, we shouldn't have had them in here anyway, right? So we're all cannibalizing each other That's what the only point I'm making with all of this shit when it comes to old content Is this a circular firing squad, baby? I think and I guarantee if you've been around long enough It's only a matter of time for you to show I think it's more like this It's like There's a weapon that exists now And it can be used when you want and we see this happen with different movements, right? We saw it happen with me too. It's like, oh, here's a new weapon I don't like this guy. He didn't call me back. Me too. Me too, right? And and what we have to decide is if we want that weapon And eventually what happens is what happens with like nuclear weapons now I would just about say is it like usually assured destruction So everyone just everybody got a nuke now everybody behaves Right, I say everyone's just chilling right now I just I'll say this I know somebody who went at somebody And that person's team said you sure uh Don't forget about this Well, I'll press the button on this today And repost this and remind everybody of what you said that person backtracked the next day See, you know, I'm sure that mutually Which mutually assured destruction like that that's what we're all headed if we continue to go down And I know people will say things like oh, you know Tiffany's your friends. You're making an excuse for it. No, I'm standing up for the content Yeah, you know, I mean meaning that we all have some shit that mother fuckers could use against us You're saying because of the time that content should be allowed to it was fucked up. We can acknowledge it was fucked up It should have never happened But it did happen. It was a failure. It was a failure But there it was a failure, but even some of our shit that slapped Shouldn't have happened. Yeah, that's that's true. Sure. I just gave you two examples that we cut out Those are big records. You didn't give me anything Triple platinum quadruple platinum. Yeah, we're talking about movies that we can all go back and watch that we all consider classics But you watch it now you like but movies are different because there's a time stand There is a time stand where you're able to say this What do you mean? He said little rascal. Steve said what happened that I never seen a little rascal. I'm like the one I grew up on It was pretty nice. No, no, no, no what mouse is saying should be correct, but that's not the case I think movies is like oh time stamp to see this but that's not the case What you're saying should be correct But it's not the case because we see it all the time they take all of this old shit Even if it's time stamp and still try to paint you with that brush today Well, because I think it's a bit different because that's your Well, maybe that's maybe that's the rule. It's like if you want them to last like make a movie out of it Yeah Working By the way, he shows has a point because I do not I don't know why why isn't hollywood being held more accountable You know what I mean can't hold hollywood accountable They're protected by the fact that the parent said, okay, hollywood will have their their time. I think you think redemption No, what is it? No, they're wrecking the office. They're reckoning. Yeah. No, they won't but I know they won't they will not Know they won't To a point that you are making I think like yeah, nukes is having like content against each other But the real Weapon is the tongue like the power of the tongue and then also I don't think You guys should scrub everything off the internet because again, it's like, how are you going to learn from the past? I agree with that. Like if you watch except for me, take my Do you watch game of thrones the new season and they cut the mom open like the dad was like I want the sun. Da da da and the sun end up dying But watching that and how gruesome it was like this season is very gruesome This show and like the inside of people's guts when it dies But it's like Even though like if you were to see that today, you know, you would automatically be like, yo Send this person to jail, but it's like this was real life. No, no, it's not. You know, it's a fiction There's dragons. There's one. No dragons. No, no, obviously no dragons are real Obviously no to the dragon only amongst corner right dragons are real. No Yo, Chris I'm talking about the child part I'm talking about like the real stuff within it. You're talking about the brutality of childbirth back in the day. Yes I just want all of us, uh When I'm just talking about strictly content. I ain't talking about shit else Just give each other more grace, bro. Yes, because all of us got some shit that could come back I think the scariest part or I think the part that people With the ones that try with good intention. That's what I'll say because I do think there's evil people I do think there's people that's looking for a moment and all of that the people that are Trying to be the gatekeepers are trying to be the the first response to that with good intentions I think what scares them it's a lot easier to let a movie or a song go past, right? Because there's like this barrier of entry like I wasn't there when they record the song this movie It's lights camera action you're depicting the character. It's different What I think is different for like comedians or like podcasters like you're saying your thoughts This is what you think on the inside you've dealt with this as a comedian. It's like not really though I I just think that because it's still entertainment Like you're just saying things for entertainment, but you're not playing a character, right? It's a lot harder for somebody to it's not a character. I just think that like We recognize what is funny is often naughty. It's often wrong and bad And we recognize it right and that's why we can make it and that's why I'm sure aries and tiffany made the sketch They're like this is bad And as a human being we know what is right and moral most of us and we know what is wrong Right and then sometimes what's wrong is really funny And that's why on this podcast sometimes before we're about to say something funny We laugh to ourselves because we're go. I'm about to say some shit I know is wrong right but for whatever reason it's funny and comedy still exists to this day Because we find humor in what is naughty and bad We would have got rid of it thousands of years ago if we didn't still enjoy laughing what's naughty But the idea I think what is lost is that we don't recognize that it's wrong We understand that it's wrong and when we're defending this like I know this isn't wrong Like I know Scottish people aren't the Africans of Europe But it's funny to be a little naughty and make these connections or whatever. So that's all we're doing Funny to me anymore It was funny when I believe I thought I believed you, you know what? Now that I know he was trying to be funny You know the dragons were real five minutes ago Dragons are real What are you all talking about? I'm gonna be honest. You're gonna hate this but like, um, Santa Claus isn't real. No Yeah, I I I don't think I don't think uh I don't think black people are black All right, no, he's right about that. Wait, what do you mean? He's right about that. I don't know what he means because black black is a label Sure, Scottish people are black. Okay. Well, I don't know. Scottish people are Scottish. No, no, they're white This is the way Scottish people are dragons, bro We are dragons We are dragons I want to hear this though. Why aren't black people black again? I want to hear why I didn't figure it out just See what I'm saying Everybody on the edge, you know, he's see like No, y'all's walked us down because remember that's entertainment But that's what somebody could take that one clip. Oh, yeah, and just put that with no context. No nothing I don't think black people are black Then he's gonna show mouse and show me like look at them tap there He's right, exactly. He's right. I don't think black people are black. He's right You know, listen, you talk about when we talk about that Magic Johnson clip of Magic Johnson on breakfast club Somebody put that out, but they purposely cut the laughter. Oh, they cut him laughing. Oh, that's my point You know what I mean? They cut him laughing just to make it seem like I'm just Sacramento No, it wasn't But that's my point people know what they people know what they're doing, y'all Yes, my mother the story is just give everybody grace, man, especially when it comes to old content We didn't know no better. We really did and we really did Yeah, did we not? Yeah, bro. There's oh, you know, there's episodes of guy code that they don't play no Yeah, I know the one about me Hey What are you doing? Alex just bleeped out when I'm married But Think about this though. Think about this. I don't they edit it now I would rather say it because it's not that crazy But that means standards and practices all the producers directors and writers and everybody else Just now realizing three years ago like oh, that's just they didn't do it because they felt like the joke was inappropriate It did it because of the backlash exactly the joke was funny. You It goes back to what I said about But a lot of the reason why that's just not funny, bro. That's thank you Gleam all it is. This is glee. This is glee y'all gonna have to miss out. No, it sounds crazier now When we're because we have why because No, no This Hey all jokes aside all jokes aside, they really and by the way, this is how you know that like media really programs you I'm married yo, but listen. I'm married. This is how you know television Why you Bleep bleep bleep, but this is how you know This is how you know programming really impacts you and if you think social media is really making people lose empathy Right social media social media is making people lose empathy. Yeah compassion and desensitizing people That's how we were When we started watching certain shit on tv and certain shit that they were showing us That's why we were desensitized a lot. I think we were desensitized But I also think that we had a better understanding of humor back then which was yes We said things on purpose to be Inappropriate and funny and dark and like and we we did it knowing that it was wrong For the purpose of being inappropriate funny and dark because there was no internet that desensitized us to what was Right now these kids have a desensitization. So tv did that for us though. Well, no, I think no tv and music Literal I think they're making it literal right now. I think like yes when you listen to like m&m lyrics back in the day There was a barrier that this was a cartoon. We're like he's not really doing these things He's not lining kids up. What is that? I take seven kids from columbine You know put them all in line like you're not literally doing that you're he's like i'm gonna be The worst human and say the worst things right and I think that we applied that To a lot of like rap back in the day. We're like, yo, what is the craziest person? What would the craziest person do? But we all I think it's a little different with m&m and the rest of rap just because Damn, I don't want everything I say to be oh, he's so racially motivated But it's a little different because they already looked at black people as like I think hip-hop this way Hip-hop avoids a lot of this way when you're deciding To like take on the name of like a horrible dictator like noriega, right? Okay, you're you're not doing it You know it was a dictator Yeah, so it was a drug dealer. Well that goes hand-in-hand when you're in What was it? Nicaragua, Nicaragua. Whoa. Yeah, well you said what? What did you First it was you guys What people mean that country for sure Something else But but he chose the name because he's like we love you norie. Yo shout to norie 100% it's like but the name is here is this guy Who's this powerful dictator? Everybody wanted to be the bad who did the who did bad? Like there are people who's what is it? Um, like what is it? I'm a band man something like the taliban I'm a rubber band man fly uh fly the taliban. Yeah, yeah, he's rubber band man fly the taliban fly like the taliban That was crazy. That's an insane thing. Well, that's a double on time Why? What are you saying? He's fly but the plane crash, but I agree with you I don't with you, but I was in the taliban He was just thinking of things that everybody could relate to. I mean you can't say fly like a bird But It worked for nelly fortado what she's a I want to fly away, but she couldn't that's your name. So she's a human man, man, bro No, but my point is we're taking people The taliban really is dumb now now. I know it's a different terrorist. So that's it No, but we thought it was taliban. I thought the taliban flew my stupid. My stupid. That's my stupid You tell me the taliban never flew. Yo, it's even if if they if he did say If he did say because of 9 11, it's even crazy. Oh, it's definitely why he said it because of 9 11 Like ti could never say anything again Well, when was rubber band man release? It was after after 9 11 left. There's 0 4 0 5 Fly like the taliban like you want to be the people man is on flew the planes into the towers and killed thousands of people to your point about that and the m&m column Online and by the way, I'm gonna be honest. This is something that I just learned We thought we were making like even somebody like when they used to make r kelly jokes Michael jackson jokes. Yeah, we thought we were making jokes about them. They were to us But we forget there's people actually impacted. So when you say lineup seven people from columbine There were people whose kids were actually killed in columbine. So it actually makes people actually died 9 11 Absolutely So it makes what m&m and ti those guys say even that more but they're not sensitive now No, real quick what this is like is I guess what I'm trying to say is I understand what they're trying to do much like humor Which is I'm gonna be something naughty. Yeah, I'm gonna be I'm gonna say the I'm gonna say the outlandish story Who's the worst guy? Who's the baddest guy? Who's the one that nobody wants to fuck with right? Who's the who's the guy that never backs down right? Here's noriega this dictator Taliban over here like the I'm gonna say I'm these people on purpose I'm gonna be inflammatory on purpose. Yo, god. Yeah Gotty, right? I I know who these people are and I'm gonna mimic myself after them because I want to be the baddest guy out there But they're also aware that those guys are bad And that's why they're choosing to be them and that's the same thing with humor We know what we're doing is bad and we're choosing to do it for that reaction And then something shifted where everything we said said we meant man I agree with you 100 percent. I'm gonna tell you what happened Hold on real quick. Megan Good said something on uh my talk show last season and I thought she was I was like really I I couldn't understand it But she was basically saying she got to watch the roles that she plays because people were believing that's really her and I'm like Are people really that's what? Well programming programming if you play the same role every time No, Danny Trejo Literally plays the same person in every move. It's a book. You know, he's the mexican dude with the beard Gotta fucking leather vest it with this open. You can see the tattoo on his chest from desperado the bad guy super long Here I need to play the same role every every time. I believe that he's him. I'm gonna be honest with you Three different people ran through my mind just now I saw Emilio Estevez He's white Emilio Estevez Brother brother He's white though. He's half-half. He's mexican White people mexicans can be white man. I don't think he's mexican his last name is his name is Emilio Estevez I don't think that's mexican and I think you're just he might be from google More of the stories man, just give people grace, bro Because god damn it don't wait until it's your fucking faith All right to stand up for you know, what's right and give people grace But also we got to teach people to be accountable Right. I think if we teach if we only teach one Jokes a counter for a horror movie like yeah, everybody had to be accountable. What did that even mean? All right. Hey, I'm like that's like a woke twitter term when people say hold them accountable How do you hold somebody? How do you hold somebody accountable for old rap lyric for making you a old sketch? Like hold me accountable for hey at this time All accountability is how about this hold you accountable for the sketches not being funny like I'm not going to hold them accountable for that sketch for as if they're they're molesters I don't think that no This was this was grossly inappropriate And it wasn't funny After that then I want you but after that then what once you stand accountable for that Not no not in this area. This area. I don't even know what they're looking for no one's no one's But nobody is nobody stands accountable. Yeah, what do you mean? No one says tiff took accountability. What's accountability? You saying hey You have to stand next to what you did all we see now or a majority of what we see is people saying Hey, this thing that they're trying to hold you accountable and you say Nah, fuck out of you. I'm rich. No, I forgot it. I was back then After they have after people are telling you hey, there's wrong. There's wrong is wrong. You know Nine people forget. Yeah, people will be pulling up a shit and I'll be like, I don't even remember saying that shit, bro Like I don't it's like I don't be think we've moved on like as it was Also, why should you like bring up some shit you did in the past is horrible? Like no somebody brings it to you I'm not saying. Hey, look I look at how many people gotta know that the feeds what you just said Once somebody brings it to you you have to stand accountable and that's what they did Once you say I apologize that was wild and listen We like Tiffany Haddish who I have said from the beginning of the podcast. She did not deserve that Yes, she did not deserve none of the heat. She's getting none of it. It should all be on areas But Tiffany Haddish stood accountable. This thing came out last week by the end of the week Apologies was up not even the week by not by the weekend. That's accountability not Not take somebody like the baby You said what you said on that stage you then doubled down on it Then you tripled down on it Then when your bottom line was affected. Hey y'all I'm going to classes and I'm going to learn to be a better person That's not accountability Okay, so accountability is what Tiffany had Because here's my thing I'm with you, but here's my thing if he doesn't feel like he did If he doesn't feel like he did anything wrong Listen, by the way, if he doesn't feel like he did anything wrong. That's on him. Yeah That's on him. You know what like I don't like performative apologies either So it's just like yo if you apologize and it's sincere Hey salute to you if you feel like you don't want to apologize. That's on you too Like I don't you know, but either way I'm saying what did that do for the people is what I'm saying Like people want to be it's like it's like this court of public opinion wants to be jurors Judges Executioners, but they really can't do anything but yelling make noise It's like, what do you want? Yeah Yeah, that's that the problem is sometimes the noise does affect your bottom line And then when it affects your bottom line, right? You want to speak up because you care about your bottom line because that's your livelihood and that's okay I just think that if we can get back to judging people by the intention The intention of blackface was to ridicule black people Yeah, the intention of their sketch was to ridicule molesters. Okay, so what if you pull up? Even though it wasn't funny the intention true was still to ridicule the bad people, right, right and I think we can look at things like that and make people laugh in the process now I think the mistake you make at jokes like that. You if you're going to do it just ridicule the person You don't gotta pretend to be the person. Yeah, get the don't have that Just ridicule the person Yeah, you know what I mean But a lot of times we don't see that there's a great comedian that we all know and love Has a fantastic Michael Jackson joke You probably laughed at it inappropriately and it was in the last couple of years But and and what's crazy about that joke is he's making fun of the victims. Yes He's making fun of the victims. Let's not get it fucked up Don't don't look at the name Michael Jackson and say oh he's making fun of Michael. No, he's making fun of the victim You know what I'm talking about You said it's goat level goat level, but he's making fun of victims mouse. He's making fun of He's making he's making fun of my alleged victims I don't say mit victims alleged victims. That's what I'm saying. And I think that's what the joke is I keep point. I'm that's what I think the joke is. I think the joke is of the alleged No Of the victim. I think if this comedian we're talking about knew that they were actual victims I don't know if he makes the same joke. I still laugh no matter what that's true But I don't know if he makes the same joke. There's a fact that the victims are alleged But that's what he doesn't mention that in the joke, but he doesn't make the joke from an alleged perspective He makes the joke from the perspective of this happened And y'all need to suck it up think it's a goat. I think it's a goat level joke We're all I'm mad. I'm mad. I didn't think of it Wow I was sitting in a motherfucking crowd like Circular fire squad That's circular fire. That's why I say be careful who you shoot at because eventually you'll get shot And I thought nico argo was funny The difference is does it make you laugh and that's at the end of the day If it makes you laugh if this sketch, it might make you laugh and still be wrong Yeah, but if it makes you laugh, there's a there's there's redeeming quality Yes, if it makes you laugh, there's a redeeming quality. If you just make me feel uncomfortable Now I'm like, why'd you make me feel uncomfortable? I'm like a valid point Because it goes back to what women have been telling us for years wrong attention Right attention from the wrong guy. Get away from me that same attention or even less from the right guy. Um, hey What up, bitch? Oh, I'm in love and by the way, women been telling us this shit about our content for years Like literally oh, that's why I listen Now listen, I just say things what they want me to say I only talk about what they want me to talk about this guy is crazy. 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I'm telling you your wife deserves it Your girl deserves it. You got a side chick. Even she deserves it. Whoa, I think she deserves half as much as your wife Black men don't cheap, bro. I'm what you're talking about. That's fact. That's what you but not everybody here watching is black Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so shouts to y'all Uh shouts for Mormons and everybody else Every but Mormons can't drink coffee, but they could definitely chew it up and you go to blue chew dot com Okay, you can get your first month free. All you gotta do is make sure you use the uh the the promo code idiots with the s Ain't that right idiots. So blue chew dot com use the promo code idiots You get the first month free. All you got to do is pay five hours shipping go there deliver and let's get back Church announcements. What we got? Yes church announcements. Um, I think I should Jesus Christ, so yeah Miles, what you got trap karaoke? Um, we're in philadelphia thursday We're in riley, north carolina on friday and we are in new orleans, uh, louisanna on Saturday, okay guys next door each and every monday shout out to mac wild and fly ride. What up mac? What up fly ride? You know the white hip hop question legends list myself nala Simone each and every monday That's all I got. That's right. Uh, mine is simple. Uh, october 8th. Well, first of all, uh, this week new episode a hell of a week We're back after a two week hiatus We had to take the same break of the daily show today was off for two weeks travels back this week We're back this week with a new episode thursday night 11 30 on comedy central and um, the mental wealth expo is october 8th Here in new york city at the marriott marquee time squares my second annual mental wealth expo if you was there last year, you know it's a day of uh mental health and healing Education I bring some of the best, you know mental health professionals to that space uh this year we have of course my good sister devy brown We have a hip hop and mental health panel that i'm excited about rhapsody is going to be on that one um And we'll name the others uh very shortly my man wallo and shaka sinkor are coming together to have a conversation about the effects of The the prison system on your mental health. We got dr. Alfie brie land noble going to be there Nadra twab glover who's the author of set boundaries find peace Dr. Spirit is going to be there Just to name a few and our keynote speakers are pastor tore robber's in the great sarah jakes robber's They'll both uh be there october 8th, and it's a free event. All you got to do is go to mental wealth expo dot com And uh register to be there rsvp to be there and we'll see you on october the 8th You don't let me talk about number rat. That is crazy. You said what you only hide me to talk about rat What do you mean? I know about mental health talked about a bit. This has been on a panel. I could have been on one of those panels It's all the silence in the youth You're not really the youth no more mouse you got hot I'm the youngest person in the room. You can't no tail actually is in niloh i'm 33 And niloh nile is that was you not in the room? I said in the wrong. You're not really the youth How old are you mouse? Tell me i'm not the youth of nuts How old are you 33? Damn Oh The youth mouse Yo, you gotta get that You're 37 years from 40 king. Yes, you know that That's some hating ass shit, no you're 40 bro What? 40 bro get a real gap hoodie bro Shut that shit out bro Gap of Dan drill? Is this a real gap hoodie? No Yes it is, but man That put these dapper Dan and Gap have a collaboration. You can't wear collab clothes no more. You 40 years old, bro. Go to Brooks Brothers, that's some shit. By the way, Miles is younger than a lot of these guys because a lot of these guys be on these podcasts. And just because you've had a podcast only for three years. Bro, you're 40 plus, all right? Stop talking to me like I'm the old guy, all right? Oh, they becoming like big bro? Yeah, like every like, you got to move out the way and give us a young guy's face. Bro, you're 42. I don't fuck with your podcast only three years old. And cut it the fuck out. Get the fuck out of here, you're talking about a smooth podcast. What the fuck? Well, by the way, and go where? Yeah, we both going to be eating pancakes that I hop at the same time. First of all, I've never understood. Now, radio, I won't even get to that. I've never understood that thought process when these niggas old, young, like you got to move out the way in a podcast. They can listen whenever they want. They don't want to listen to you. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor. What are you saying? Taylor Jealous. All right, hold on. Go ask it. Ask it. Ask it. Ask it. We got to go. We got to go. We got to go. Jealous, though. She's in Jamaica posting in Thrust Trap. People leaving her comments saying, Charlotte may weigh thinking in you. I didn't see a few of those comments. I did see that. That was great. Jealous is fucking. I don't even have bikini on. I still look thinking in you. Was that a wish of a bikini? Stephen Silva 95 said, would you rather have an athlete or engineer as a son-in-law? Depends how good they are at both. That's right. What kind of athlete are we talking? Yeah, I mean. You talk about, like, look, is he going to be Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Tom Brady? Of course I want that to be my engineer. And if there are engineers, is it going to be Elon Musk? I take that shit, too. It really depends. Yeah, that's a broad question. A mediocre athlete or a mediocre engineer? I'm going to take mediocre engineer. Mediocre engineer. 100%. 100%. Me, too. I can explain my mediocre engineer way easier at the dinner table. Yeah. You don't even have to say he's going to be like, hey, what's your son up to? He's playing basketball and he's turkey. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The thing about being a mediocre athlete, we know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no such thing as a mediocre engineer. You're just an engineer. That's the goddamn dinner table. You're either an engineer or an athlete. Yeah, I just want him to be black. That's all I want for me. Do you want your kid to be black? I want my son-in-law to be black. Your son-in-law. Oh, is that the question? Yeah, it says son-in-law. Oh, son-in-law? Oh. What does that mean? No, son-in-law. That means we have, because me and Charlotte may have daughters. So we're thinking. Oh, the person that your kid marries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same thing. Same thing. I still want the engineer. Yeah, I just want him to be black. I have no racial requirements for my son-in-law. I do. I do. You do. I do. You got to be black. Whatever you bring this house got to be black. And I'm not debating with nobody about that. Talk to Dr. Uma. All right? Take it up with Dr. Uma. I just want my son-in-law to be Nicaraguan, dude. I really think it's true. We're naughty. See how fun it is to be naughty? You know what's going to be funny? In four years, Nicaraguan's going to be one of those words that a lot of people can't say. Hey, where are you going? Nicaraguan. Oh, I know. Over there. Scroll down. I'll spend the weekend in N-word. Whoa. That's even worse. That's worse. N-land? I spend a lot of money in N-word. Justyante Lamar said, if the Bible said it was OK to cheat, would you have sex with other women? The Bible? Your wife is the Bible. Exactly. I'm going to fuck about the Bible. Yeah. By the Bible? I don't cheat because the Bible tells me not to. Cheat because my wife tells me not to. Hell. I don't think the Bible says don't cheat. I think the Bible definitely says that. It does. Don't commit adultery. It's one of the two. Well, adultery is different. Adultery is when you're married and you have sex with another person that is adulterated. Yeah, but if you marry that person, you have sex with an adult. Adultery is when you turn a tree. But what about the person? If you have sex with the person while you're married to another person, that is adulterated. But if you marry that other person, now you're married to another person. But why that man called Wesley Snipes in the adulterer before he shot him? Oh, because he was an old man. He's the same thing. And we all know Old Black Jackson. Adulter! Adulterer! Your soul belongs in the hell. Your soul is in the quiet in hell. You know, ain't cheating that movie. You wasn't even married. What? All right. OK, that's the last one. Who's this from, Taylor? Whoever said this that life is all about learning and improving, right? Oftentimes, people could be uncomfortable next to people who've done questionable stuff. But the Bible says we are supposed to learn and forgive. Do you think God would forgive the devil if the devil were to repent somehow? Interesting. I think God is already forgiving him. He's already forgiven him. Because forgiveness isn't for the person. Forgiveness is for you. You relieve yourself of the debt. You relieve yourself of the burden of walking around angry and allowing someone to take up space. So I think God is already forgiving the devil. It hasn't worked for me yet. Me neither. It sounds good. I've forgiven him in front of my therapist. I've forgiven him in front of my spiritual leaders. Nothing worked. I know how to forgive. I just refuse to forgive. I don't know. I've tried it a million times. It don't work. I'd be like. Forgiveness is as simple as saying no more. It's really a mind-fuck. When they say forgive, what do you say? Forgive and forget. But you can't. You can't. It's impossible. As soon as you. That's what triggers are. That's another thing. And I don't even know what podcast you would discuss that on. Like people at some point were just saying words that just sounded good. Oh, forgive and forget. A lot of people in the room is the weakest. I don't ever want to be the smartest person in the room. Shut the fuck up. I just wrote about that. Shut the fuck up. I'm working on my new book. I literally just wrote about that. So when you talk about. So I do think you can forgive. But I think the only way to properly forgive is to never forget. So you don't end up in this situation again. Yeah. If I punch you in your face for no reason, you forgive me and you forget it. Well, you're going to drop your guard. You only forgive you if I can't beat you. You don't have a choice. Nobody punch you in the face. You're only going to forgive me if you can't beat them. If you let them punch you in the face, then clearly you didn't think you could beat them. You have no choice but to forgive them. Not that you got to scrap. And then you could be you could be forgiven for punching me in my face. Yeah, we fight. But I'm never going to forget that when I say him under my bench, you snuffing me. So every time you're in this, I'm watching you. Like, no, I forgive you. I'm not holding against you. But I'd be a damn fool to look this way every time you right here. I don't know if I forgive as much as I just simply don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck way more than I. Like, I just be like, you're done to me. Like, whatever. Like, bye. Sayonara. Only people I don't look at as like a problem. Like, y'all know, like, there's a lot of people over the couple of years that have like been like, yeah, I already did the most egregious thing to you. Right? Like, like, oh boy, that start that shit. I told him, I said, the next time I see him, I'm going to spit on you. Yeah. And the next time I see him, I spat on him. You know what he did? Nothing. All right. I have to forgive you now. I left it on because I can't keep chasing. I mean, you did what you said you were going to do. I can't keep chasing an issue with somebody who don't want to. Now, did you spit on him for real or was it a Harry Styles? No, I was like, no, we was walking. Was it a Harry Styles? Chris, I'll tell you may or may not have been spit. No, no, it was like it was a loogie. It was a loogie. Like, we were was yellow. It was not come on. Take care of my body. Take care of my body. I was nasal. That's a soul. And depending where it landed, it's sexual assault. It didn't land in the road. Whoa. This guy, Mousy. Wow. This guy, this guy. Might be out of me. I might be out of me. Jesus Christ. Oh, you just spit on his crotch, bro. That's just shit, bro. That's shit. You know how that reads in a paper? Yo. Mousy Jones is arrested for sexual assault because he's spit on a man's crotch. Whoa. What the fuck, Mous? Jesus Christ. That's why I'm holding your ear so big, bro. As always, if you listen to this podcast. If you listen to this podcast. Oh, tell them. That's it. Everything, Mous, right? Tell them I'm going to find you. Oh, yeah. And definitely not in the ink blotter behind what Charlie said. If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. But if you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.