 Hey guys, welcome to Rotorat on Lidrib. I'm Alex Manover. Let's fly or see Bobby at PV one of the best parts about flying is flying with other people because when you're flying with your friends you can push each Other you can challenge each other You can learn from the skills that they have that you may not have developed so much when you're flying by yourself You know it's really hard to start improving because you don't really have someone else to gauge off of it All of us here really like to push each other competitively and it's why we enjoy flying with each other so much So I think it's a great opportunity for us to kind of judge each other a little bit But in a friendly criticism way. There's no shame in admitting that there's room to grow I don't ever want to be in a place where I feel like I'm the best pilot I can be I always want to be looking for new things to try. Maybe it's a new trick to learn or maybe it's taking a trick I already know how to do and we're finding it a possibilities are endless, right? Even consistency can be a factor like just being able to do the same trick over and over and over again So you can do it on demand is really helpful as well So today we're here at a wonderful tree spot the lighting is a beautiful right now beautiful golden hour So we're gonna go ahead and rip and push each other as much as we can I think all of us are gonna be able to find something that we want to improve on and that someone else's meal help them learn Suck it. Let's make your excuse better. I just need to like up my rates like Nothing I fly 480 degrees and I can do rubric cubes. I fly 450 but I could do it at three Let's see you know it here. Let's let's take a look at your best rubric So I'll start by just doing the trick. So here we go So that's a rubric cube now you can ultimately just remember the basis of a rubric cube is Half flip full roll half flip. It's really what it is and you can do it with slow rates I like to do it a little bit like this I'll show you guys what I've been doing recently So, you know, I'll find a gap or something like that and I'll do it kind of slow. I'll be like Like that. I do love your slow style. It's very unusual to see a rubric you've done like that Yeah, that was cool a little throttle blip to keep it So the biggest thing is just making sure about me you get full stick That's the biggest thing and start by just practicing stopping like Get good at stopping it on a point. Yeah, that's the biggest thing if you can't stop it on a point It's just gonna be all messy once you can do that. Then yeah start, you know finding a gap or something You can do it through It's one of my favorite tricks and of course that I like to do real That takes a little bit of yawn throttle and timing Something that can be tricky is to set yourself up for the roll to like stop at the right point Like something I struggled with when I was doing them is I wouldn't roll enough Like I would be looking more down at the ground and then I would roll and that wouldn't look right And then when you go to roll out of it You have to compensate for it and do more of like a 270 if that makes sense rather than the 180 Let me show you some with higher rates You'll end up doing a more like Vanny like that because your rates are slower like is but I think You know what what more people are used to seeing is kind of that higher rate Half flip hold it half flip out just get used to that That idea of kind of like holding it for a second so you have flip hold it and then you're gonna throw a roll in there Right. Yeah, so, you know, it's obviously easier if you have some altitude. So if you go way up there, you have so much room for mistakes Half flip roll Half flip and if you really like make it discreet like that, you know, if you have enough airtime to Half flip roll half flip, you know, you can really think it through Yeah, but um, you know another style is to do them quicker together So you're like bam bam bam, but you know, it gets trickier then see I wasn't perfectly on axis, right? Yeah, you know, so take it's definitely a practice and muscle memory thing if you want to do them super snappy to get it right We boom boom boom and see I'm still a little off. It's hard. It's hard to get it It's just definitely a to refinement thing that was a good one You know, I had the fast rate so I was doing them really snappy, but I do really like van over style So what I have the option to do is I can do them that fast or I cannot necessarily go full stick Like I was going full stick on all those just to like show what the snappier version look like Yeah, but you can use different points at the stick travel So like I could do Vanny's style where I just would maybe go like half stick and then I could do that slower like boom Yeah, boom boom because I do love that and I just think it's about like how's the rest of the line looking? What song you flying to what kind of spot you're doing whether you want to go Or do more of that like mm-hmm. I think it's just one of those tricks that I like I've never even tried like I don't think I've never seen you do it. Yeah, they never really appealed to me But I think after like you know, you're throwing them in there doing them with a different style kind of slow I'm like I like Rubik's cubes now. I think it'll be good. Even if you don't do them a lot It's kind of cool to expand your repertoire and what you can do and can't do Yeah, I think you know ultimately kind of eliminate the things you can't do and just being able to do everything It'll make you a better pilot Nice and yeah, just the more you practice at the better You'll get it just like stopping it on a spot, you know Yeah, because you're on low rates as well You gotta like mash the stick but smoothly mash it But you know you get you we have to get full stick in because the drone doesn't turn as fast with our slower rates Yeah, so you have to really get good at just full stick in each corner, but doing it smoothly Yeah, that was better, but I could hear you Started the roll a little early like just do the front flip and give it a beat then start the roll Yeah Hang time to I need to get like my the horizon flatter. Yep That seemed good to me I Think What if I can like Rubik's Cube into a trippy spin? Yeah, that'd be cool. So we were doing that's what you're was doing earlier He was doing a Rubik's Cube into a trippy spin Okay, what the heck Wow That was kind of cool. That was awesome. Yeah, I kind of like that combo. Yeah, cuz like you got to catch it in the right spot Do it again. I don't think I can Oh, you can do it And then do it. Yeah, I didn't like that one. Yeah. No, I came to a stop. That one didn't have to not sound good I like that combo. I'm Gonna try to get better at that Yeah, I gotta figure out fix that stop. Yeah. Well, you know something I was messing with earlier Was the Rubik's to Maddie and I feel like that, you know, you don't end up with that natural stop, you know Oh That's cool. No, I definitely think you got better at doing the a Rubik's Cube just practice you already can do them I think I'm more gonna practice the Rubik's Cube to trippy spin and like trying to get that stop not so Like defined I'm gonna find like 15 degrees right now and I'm wondering if Like having a higher camera angle would help that transition I mean it might but you know, I think like pdavx proved that you do not need that high angle to pull off some crazy tricks You know, I guess I always hesitate to like change my angle for a certain trick Like I'd rather force myself to learn it at the angle actually fly at so that I can use it practically rather than being like Oh, I'm gonna do that particular trick. Hold up. Let me I mean Here's a good example that when people started doing Maddie flips and trippy spins like this is Maddie stunts way back in the day He was doing it like 60 degrees angle and everyone kind of thought like you kind of have to do those tricks with The high angle but then all of a sudden his freestyle evolved people were doing those same tricks with the low angle So I'm with you drew. I feel like I don't want to change my setup to do a trick I just want to change the way I fly instead probably as usual. The answer is fly better I was inspired by pdavx was doing those combo link-together things and I've gotten pretty dang good at doing a trippy spin Into a maddie flip. But one thing I just have not been able to get is to Maddie flip and then link it into a trippy spin. That's just I don't know I think this is a great set of trees to practice this on so That's right. Can you Maddie flip to trippy spin try let's do it together together. Let's do it together Maybe let's plug it on Alex to was this guy. Yeah while he's flying his $4,000 set up. How much is that camera? That's your that just great. Did you just do it? Yeah first try. Yeah, no drama there Yeah, I think you do a first try. Well, I'm just gonna warm up. So I mean I can I can Maddie flip All right, and I can trippy spin and I can even trippy spin into the tree So that I just don't get how you do. Oh, I just don't get it. But what's the motion? I it's like weird. It's not really a maddie flip I'm kind of thinking of it's entering a backwards dive front flipping because then I'm going straight down and then catching it Does that make sense? Hold on, you know, I think what I'm gonna practice is coming from this way starting to fly backwards and Nope right into the tree what I think would help is like so, you know You're trying to enter the trippy spin in the maddie flip when your camera is facing straight up If I'm coming out of the maddie flip that I'm coming backwards, right? So I feel like that's kind of the thing. Well, so that's the thing is like when I'm doing it I'm never getting to that stage where I'm flat I'm I'm always 90 degrees to the ground and then I start the trippy spin right there, okay? So it's like a 75 percent maddie flip and then from right there. I'll just Oh, that's a smart idea. Okay, so rather than even bothering with the maddie flip. I'm just gonna backwards dive Boom. Oh, that's interesting. That was interesting To just to just go up and backwards dive it. So just kind of like boom look up dive dive dive trippy spin Interesting. Let me try. Let me try. Here we go. So I just kind of Maddie flip backwards dive trippy There it is. Let's go All right, I mean, I didn't lock into like, you know, lots of spins, but that was a good solid Let me go with you again. So maddie maddie backwards dive trippy. Oh You're a little the ground and then I was turned into another maddie. Yo Yo, there's a hawk up there Yes, oh I feel so accomplished Thank you, Bobby. Well that gets chewing next to my ear Yeah, I'm gonna try to get a good flight. Yo, can you stop? Okay? I do struggle a little bit with power loops I can do a power loop naturally But like Consistently doing a power loop the way I want it to look on camera I do struggle with a little bit like I couldn't just do a power loop over and over and over and over again and Keep it consistent. Yeah, and I don't know. Maybe that'll help me trying to do that I've tried in the simulator to just do power loops over and over and over again I've spent a lot of time in the simulator just burning away at just trying to do over and over and over power loops That tree let me see your power loop that branch this branch. Yep, right there He just did it. You can go back under it I didn't There's a ground there There's a bush right there. All right, so there's found something tight yet I think Sean you're holding too much throttle through the whole power loop So you're starting it off of it when you're inverting you're holding so much draw But that's why you're like flying into the ground I kind of think of it more as a flick and then I'm kind of a power loop So I don't like the flicks because then you end up like what you know, let me rephrase that flick of the throttle So like it's still curved though. I don't like that. It's not like a it's like a I think you should be Smooth on smooth off. So like you're going the throttles would be like I do feel like it's probably a throttle issue a throttle management issue definitely Yeah, I'm hearing you like you're inverted and it's still like you want to tune in and join or you want to just get this light More spins while looking up at branches At least they can do that as opposed to who the guy who taught you how to do them Back in the day, I said, oh, I just learned how to do it. I knew how to do it in the beginning I was born knowing how it was it wasn't my tutorial. No, I was born Do you know where the name of the trick? I made a trick. Well, I'm calling a cyclone from now on drew Just kind of like fly past it turn around and fly over it do that like faster fast but smooth Yeah, yeah, and now try to like do it even faster so that you end up Cartwheeling over it like look over your shoulder. You know like a like a split it No, no, no go go under it and back over it, but instead of power looping like look up over your shoulder at it Yeah, now now make it make it tighter make it a more of a perfect circle and set it again Yeah And I think you're you're still heavy on the throttle like I want to hear when you're up over it throttle should come down But don't chop it. So like as you're going up bleed off it. Yeah, that was good. That was good But you bled off too quickly Also continuing through under it so it looks like a yeah, yeah, I think the off axis Helps a lot. Well, not that time. Yeah, no it because you can stay visual on it Yeah, I like that. Yeah, the off axis definitely helps picking up little tips of information like that can make a huge difference on learning something I mean it's kind of a cool trick in and of itself like I do those it's just an ego thing I don't want the world to know that I can't do a power loop unless it's in a video and I got lucky that one time So what do you mean comment? They're sad in their mom's basement criticizing your power loop You're out here in the beautiful weather having great friends having a good time So and I'm working a power loop. Well, most of these guys just fly in a sim anyway I'm telling you There it is. There it is awesome awesome. All right, man, I think go for the loop man. Oh You you kind of you sat into it. Yeah, you I think at the end you kind of freaked out and you know pitch more That was too little so in between that one and this one meet it in the middle Cut it. There it was. Oh, but you can drop it up. That was so close Got it on it. Yes. Okay. There we go It was clean nice That's what I wanted. Yeah, but you gotta do it smoother than that. Yeah, I mean I did it, but I want it smooth So I'm turning a yaw track into a trippy spin. It's pretty good. It's pretty cool. It's honestly my favorite thing I've seen today. I Don't know if I can do that is something honestly. I can't do the yaw track Boom, I could probably do it like I haven't ever done it. I was really psyched with that one I think I got it pretty good. No, I think you got one pretty good Yes, but how you did not hit that tree. Oh my You hold it that yaw track that you're doing is really cool I will say it's the first trick I've seen in a quite a long time where I'm like Oh, that's nice because I've seen you do that trick and what I like You know what I try and do with my tricks is I don't want to like change up the whole way I fly just to do a trick because it just doesn't ever feel natural to me Yeah, what I like to do is find a trick that I'm already Doing or good at and expand upon it and that yaw track that you do you do it all the time and it looks so good So to see you like go into a tree spin. That's the kind of thing that when I'm watching I'm like whoa Like I didn't think he was gonna do that the whole surprise element is what's so important to me in freestyle It's just weird because you like track it and then you have to like Settle your back end down and turn it into a spin, but but that inverted yaw track I mean if you don't can you have you done this? I mean, it's well within your ability for sure I've done them unintentionally. Gotcha. So what does I mean? I think it's almost easier to just force yourself to do the stick movements and then like reverse engineer from there So like just go up to your thing and I like to like fly if I'm flying to the left of it Just roll away from it and then just push the yaw stick towards it. I think I got let me let me try Roll right and yaw right so you're going to Boom that I mean that was it man. That was it and like the faster you go at it Just changes how you know much yaw you have to give So there you had like a little too much yaw right got a guy so either you need to go faster or slow the yaw down Because you just want to keep it in the center a little bit That was cool. That was cool Yeah, and then it's nice with like a circular object and you know kind of that wide angle because it looks like the Object pushes toward and away from you. You know you're cheating the fisheye boom I kind of like that. Yeah, it's just something that you can like work in See you you went to the wrong side of it Yeah, I need to be so that it does trip me up to try to roll left and then yaw right but you could so you could roll toward it But I usually roll away from it. That's cool. Yeah, it's nice man, especially if you do so what you were trying to do Was go into a trippy and this I just learned today So you're gonna already take it and learn the combo of it and then turn into a trippy right there Have it you basically do the yaw track and then let yourself fall and then catch into it. We try to get Fall into it. Oh Into the corner I think I can do this the falling it's like I'm trying to keep it smooth not just like jerk it in I'm trying to do what you were doing where you've done it so many more times You're more comfortable like centering up the tree and frame. That's the biggest thing with the trick Yeah, it's keeping the tree or whatever object it is in the center frame That was good It's not the same as the way you do it, but you've also kind of have your own It's kind of what I was saying like I don't like doing other tricks that are natural me But if I can kind of evolve them into something like I would kind of come up and do it like this Yeah, that looks very different from how I do it right same trick, but different very different I mean, that's what's so cool about FPV is just get so I would try to go to the trip My instinct is rolling the other way. Yeah Tribute should be it should be it. Yes. There. Yeah, I want to do it. Let me know. I got now. I got now I got it. Let me do it smooth That's cool. You so the thing is okay, so now I'm figuring out more you it's fun to free fall Right, you kind of like have to trust fall for a moment. You have to have enough room to catch it So you need to really That's so ah, it's so cool. It's very cool. I mean you're doing it Once it could use something but I mean you totally did it I mean and this is something like the yaw track is something that I have been doing and refining for a long time and then To combine it to a trippy spin has been something that's been bounced around my brain for weeks And then today I finally like grinded a bunch of tries nailed it and then you Learned the yaw track and the combo in two packs. So I think that's very impressive. I mean to be fair I've accidentally done that trick before like I've never done it intentionally and I think what's Weird is it's like you're inverted and you're like which way do I yawn what the biggest thing I learned from doing is like You need to be thinking about Where you're gonna yaw so like if you're gonna be yawing and rolling right you got to be on the right side of the object Because I'm always trying to figure out like how do I like focus on the object, right? It seems like I can do the move But then it's like it doesn't do anything because I was inverted because I was inverted We finally found something that Alex isn't like oh, yeah, I invented that Hey, come on don't throw me under the bus. I've been getting a lot of credits a lot of people recently myself me I