 I can only handle some general type of questions. I have here Rajesh Kushalkar with me who may be able to handle some technical questions. I am going to try out 1, 2, 3, 4 a nice number to remember Meghanath Sahab Institute of Technology. You are conducting the quiz using the clicker software. We want to arrange our own quiz in our classroom, then how can we do that. Yeah, if you want to conduct your own quiz in your classroom, we are going to distribute one more file just like the clicker remote center file what we have uploaded. Yeah, we are going to upload one more file which will be a full-fledged clicker software in which you will be able to conduct questions, conduct quizzes and gather the information at your end. Sir, I have a question that we are conducting question and like is using Moodle since last 3 to 4 years, then what is the difference between clicker and the Moodle? Just the way Moodle has two parts, the teacher sets up the quiz and then within a deadline the student fills up the answers, right. In a clicker, the whole thing is almost online quickly. In Moodle, if you have say 100 students in your class, you do not expect all of them to solve the quiz in say a few minutes. Whereas a clicker is not for a questionnaire which has may be 5 or 6 questions. Clickers are essentially used for may be one question, two questions, three questions at a time. In principle, you can use clicker for a big questionnaire of 30 questions when that is not really the use of clicker. The use of clicker is after explaining something, I want to know to what extent the students have appreciated it and student have correctly absorbed it. To get that quick feedback, we use clicker or a very small problem for which the students may take just 30 seconds on a calculator and feed in a value or select one of four values, okay. That is clicker but if you want to solve the students to solve a problem which requires multiple steps, then naturally clicker is not the solution for it. For that you have to have Moodle. Similarly, if you want to have an answer where the student has to write a sentence or two, then I do not think at present you have a text box in clicker, right. They have a text box in clicker but then remember that text box will be filled up in 100 different ways by 100 different students and how will you summarize it unless you spend may be 10, 15 minutes going through those 100 sentences. So although I am told that in clicker that thing is available, you may use it in a way perhaps clicker is a slightly different version of Moodle but Moodle is a big thing which works on a server and individuals can log in. The clicker is essentially online feedback for quick assessment of the determination of whether what you have taught is absorbed and appreciated by the students or not. 1244, Archana College of Engineering, Kerala. We have a problem. We set up our Agash server and clicker software successfully but we cannot able to establish connection with the server and tablets at this time. We need some technical support from your part. It was a clear instructions given about how to install the clicker software. The PPTs were also present given and the PDF hasn't also been uploaded on the Moodle side. We have observed the tablets not getting connected to the server what you have installed. Instead of you are getting some errors is because of the two files which have been all we have conducted a small review session yesterday and mentioned it clearly how to resolve that issues. There are two things remote clicker dot PHP. This is the file is supposed to be there copied with sudo cp remote clicker dot PHP to slash var slash www. Either this file is not copied properly or if that this file is copied properly the second problem was PHP file hyphen mysql dot dev file has been not installed on your server. If these two files are there installed properly the clicker, Akash tablets gets connected to the clicker software properly. There is no issue at all. 1043 Sarvajanik coet surat. Basically I have a two question. Number one the Dr. Fattak has shown one live SD card Ubuntu. Is it possible to upload on a Moodle? Number one second clicker application if is it possible to install on ordinary Ubuntu operating system which runs on a desktop is there any version? So even if we don't have a tablet we can directly put that application on our desktop and can start interacting even though tablets we don't have. Thank you over and out. I'll answer for the second question. Yes definitely you can install the clicker software on the regular dextops also but the is what is there in the classroom each classroom will not going to have the dextops with them. So that's why we have made the application on the tablets so that the tablets is a mobile device can be carried and the quizzes can be conducted live and the results can be collected properly to the servers and this server it doesn't mean it requires a very high end server. The clicker software can be installed on a regular desktop also. Okay about your rejoinder to what Mr. Kushalkar told you just now perhaps clicker it's a software so there is no reason why it cannot be compiled and a version made available for a desktop but I see there are a number of centers not US but there are other centers which I have seen and I have visited where the capacity is about 50 to 70 and each participant has a you know a PC or a laptop in front of him or her. Now in that case well perhaps moodle itself will work there is no need for a clicker because everybody has a proper desktop for a laptop access point so people can be locked on to moodle and the moodle will essentially do the job of a clicker clicker is to be used in an environment like the environment where you have and where less than one square meter is the footprint available for everyone so people will have some clicker or some similar small device for example in your room if everybody has a laptop on his or her lap then there will be chaos all over and then everybody will also start looking for plug points and connectivity and things like that. Also remember that the emphasis of this project is currently purely on Akash so although we are saying that we are developing things for Android on Akash we are essentially developing it specifically for the Akash platform of hardware and software hence anything which is developed will be specifically for that any clicker modification will currently will be for that once it settles then there is no reason why clicker and similar software will not be you know kept open for other standard android devices and that is I think what professor Fatuk said in the morning that in principle it can be used but since all over effort is to see to it that this is properly installed and used by thousands and thousands of engineers I think he mentioned something like a lack of androids and maybe more in the next year or so so that is where all the effort will go. Now about the Linux the Ubuntu Linux it has we have successfully ported it and maybe that has been confirmed only in the last few days maybe a week or so and I talked I have my smartphone which is android 4.0 point something and the first thing I asked professor Fatuk when we went for Chai was a can I take that chip and put it in the you know SD slot of my android smartphone or laptop switch it off and switch it on will it boot in Ubuntu he said no because that has been specifically made for the Akash hardware there is no reason why again it cannot be modified for other androids but it will take effort to do that and currently our effort is specifically towards android however there is only one aim and that is the Akash 2 android once that is settled we know how to do it and then other teams or even this team in its free time can port it to other android tablets and it is not as simple it is not that I can take that SD card and just copy the files that SD card I am told has to be specifically burned because it has to be a bootable SD card so it is like creating if you have burnt a CD or a DVD there is you know a checkbox make the CD bootable something like that I think will have to be done equivalent of that so just wait all our wishes will be taken care of but may not be in a matter of days it may take months okay but thank you for this is the into we want because only such wishes will push the project forward and some more nice things will come out of it over 1030 DOE ACC Srinagar over to you there are few questions first is how do we set up proxies our settings in this because we connect through proxy server to the internet so can we set proxy server settings for the Wi-Fi connectivity in this tablet yeah the proxy server can be set up in the settings the Wi-Fi settings whatever whichever the access point you are accessing if you just press that for a button for two seconds or something like that one more window will open saying modify network so when you go to modify network then you can see a different options of setting up a dhcpa or a static IP just below that also you can see the proxy settings there you can enter the proxy IP address and you can continue the tablet using for the internet using proxy also another question is is there any way to connect to the internet except for Wi-Fi like connecting through photon or any other USB dongles or gprs see what we have tried is was with mtnl what we have here and this reliance reliance data card that we have tried so both the dongles are working the third question is can we boot through other bootable pendrives like if i use a bootable pendrive for puppy line x puppy line x or anything has to be properly compiled for this particular android not android this arm device the tablet contains a arm chip arm aid chip it has to be compiled properly for that particular device then only you are able to boot through these devices as sir has demonstrated for this open to install install on the tablet also the same thing we have to compile for the specifically for the akash tablet i appreciate that with android there is a proxy issue even if you set up i find that for many android devices if you set up the system proxy that proxy works seamlessly only for the system browser if you use any other thing for example a direct client to go to gmail or a direct bbc news app that will not work so but you i require we have noted it down but i request you to specifically ask this question on moodle so a properly documented answer should come out in a may be a week's time also okay i will i will hint to mr. kusharkar what is perhaps a possible solution or a direction to a possible solution thank you center 1247 school of management sciences we have problem for installing clicker this is the from your side our local server is very well connected and we are able to just load it clicker but but in 20 whatever we have received that time akash time we are not able to connect it that is the problem from our side so we need your assistance in this basically the question what you have told the 20 tablets if you have installed a clicker software properly then check for the wi-fi connection there are few issues that i have been handling from the different centers that the tablets are not able to connect to wi-fi so instead of it showing the devices are connected on wi-fi is on and when they try to see the wi-fi list also they are not able to see any access point or the s side in names so these are few technical issues that just now has been raised from few of the institutions so we are looking into it i just like to suggest one thing is try to connect don't try to connect all the tablet at a time just try to connect one one tablet and see whether this thing is resolved for the wi-fi whether it's a hardware issue or it's a some connection issues only if these things are two things you can at least able to judge that there is a hardware issue or not one two eight nine Birla institute of engineering and technology pilani rajasthan over to you since that my work is related to matlab so can you tell me that matlab if i install it if i run the program so what will be the speed and all you know please give me a i think your question is that you are a regular user of matlab and you want to know whether question one is whatever you do in matlab will it work in psi lab if that is the question the answer is well almost true there are minor differences but it is true that whatever you do in matlab where you are able to do in matlab you are also able to do in psi lab maybe your matlab script may have to be modified slightly that's about it it's just like using another compiler for a line for a given language you may have to depending on the compiler you may have to change a few statements or some few declarations about the speed at which it runs remember that akash is a tablet it has a single one gigahertz small processor the processor is tuned to conserve battery the processor is not tuned for great speed and performance okay and it has only 502 megabytes of memory consequently whatever software which runs on the clicker if a similar software is made to run on a standard laptop or a desktop the comparison is not fair you don't expect the lightning speed for whatever speed you expect on a laptop to be implemented and to be true for our android android will work but it may not be a bilgadi compared to frontier mail but it may be a passenger train compared to frontier mail over I am trying 1249 Sri Ramakrishna Institute of Technology Cointure SRIT over to you. Professor I am Dr. J. Abdul Samat HOD of MCA department from Ramakrishna Institute of Technology I want to know the computation facility like CC++ Python and Skylab is available in this tablet whether Java is available over to you. Java is at present not available you should also understand I think because here also when I talk to my colleagues and others they tend to believe that Akash is a replacement for a laptop or a desktop it is not it is a small access low cost that means small in size small in performance access come computation device that although computation device is included computational capability is included as is demonstrated by the availability of the CC++ Python and Sylab platforms or compilers whatever you say these are small things when you are starting to learn Python when you are starting to learn C or when you are doing some small work on Sylab well Akash will do the job but the moment your code in any language runs over a few screen pools of Akash that means may be over 100 or 150 lines of code it is going to be number one cumbersome to keep track and properly edit it because remember your Akash screen is just 7 inch in diagonal so may be some 15 20 lines at a time you will see when you do not have great facilities of cut space you know search and substitute and split screen and things like that so moment your program becomes big it will be difficult to edit and keep track of it so let me say that look Akash is going to be something like a small bicycle for a kid initially it starts with those two additional wheels at the back just to get used to it and be able to navigate around and soon those wheels will have to come off and the bike will have to be given up for a bigger bike as the kid grows so similar thing is Akash Akash will be good for access definitely but for computation it has its limits so use it as a learning first few steps in computation once you go beyond that you have to go to a desktop or a laptop remember that so although it may have a full fledged C C plus and python compiler do not expect it to run or be able to it may be able to do that but it is not worth running a you know 500 line or a 1000 line C program for that you have to go to a proper machine over to this Varun assistant professor mechanical engineering department of SRIT so you told about the languages of computer science department shall we use any mechanical engineering oriented software in that tablet sir like SOLIDWORKS CATIA PROE like that over to you sir see the softwares which you use in mechanical engineering you mentioned SOLIDWORKS PROE and there are other ANSYS and CFD software like Fluent and all that these are these have two characteristics they are compute heavy both from storage and computational point of view and they are also graphics heavy and considering that you just have 1 gigahertz and 502 MB RAM I think Akash is just not capable of doing this even if you if somebody you know ports something like this it will be a very restrictive port of SOLIDWORKS or something so for such things you better straight away go to a proper machine yes but what Mr. Kushalkar tells me is that if there is an output file which is simply to be displayed as a series of frames or may be as a video or as a PDF file then Akash can do it but then it is a question of just displaying the result not extracting or computing the result out for example in SOLIDWORKS you can take some design of something and may be a wire frame and you can turn it anyway you feel like as you change your mouse that requires heavy computation and I do not think you will be able to do it smoothly and well enough in Akash 1221HPR Tamil Nadu over to you sir good evening sir I am K. Rajesh Kumar from Department of Management Studies NPR College of Engineering and Technology in Attham so first of all I congratulate you all for this noble initiative sir I have two questions with me so first of all ours is a group of institutions we have around the five institutions in the same campus I do understand that this initiative purely pertains only to students coming from engineering background but suppose if we have some students with a lot of noble initiatives may be from arts and science college or from a polytechnic college may my question is can some engineering students join with them and come out with some innovative projects if that is the case will you support us and in case if you support us what should be the maximum number of students in a team and whether would you fund some innovative projects with comes with the social cause so this is my first question sir and the second question is we have a lot of committees and the cells in our college for example research and development cell quality circle cell entrepreneurship development cell and we have other committees which has a lot of social initiative in them and in case if a cell comes with an innovative project because through our projects we are promoting the launch of this Akash tablets so in case if you have some innovative projects would you provide the technical support if any project is being initiated from any one particular cell or committee from our institution so these are the two questions which I have from my side sir over to you sir thank you okay nice questions the questions as I understand are first thing is yours is a cluster of institutions where may be a few institution or one institute is related to engineering the others are art science may not be direct engineering in the second one is you have other groups and committees which do good work and whether they come up with some innovative ideas whether support to the Akash project or some similar project is available see the Akash project and the NME ICT project at the way they are laid out today are for engineering education and that too essentially for the faculty members and students as controlled by faculty members in engineering students of engineering as controlled by faculty of engineering now having said that I agree that there are a number of engineering projects and engineering ideas which cannot be completed or brought to a proper conclusion unless there are contributions from non engineering people so in an so long as the whole thing is controlled by your engineering college if in the team there are a student or two for non engineering background there is no reason why that team should not be okay but if you want something which is essentially from an arts college or a social science college then I think you will have to talk to professor for that then the decision the same thing is true for others other innovative ideas if that innovative idea is controlled by a team of engineering faculty and students and I think there shouldn't be any difficulty but if that innovative idea is not in the control of an engineering faculty then it is not in the mainstream mandate of NME ICT and a policy decision will have to be taken by the top bosses of NME ICT beginning with Professor Patak now may I request that you put this upon Moodle so that it gets registered properly and whatever is the decision is made known to everyone else thank you over Ajish Kumar department of physics sir can access your library digital library through Aakos tablets if its available it is very useful for our students they can refer many books by using Aakos tablets over to you see Aakos tablet and the access through Aakos tablet is nothing specific for IIT Bombay for any particular institute okay so Aakos tablet has a browser if through the Wi-Fi you connect it to the internet then like any other machine which has a browser and which is connected to the internet it is connected to the internet and it will be able to access within its capability of small screen and that processing power any digital content which is available on the internet and which is accessible from other machines whether you will get access to a particular library and a particular you know cache or a set of digital content depends on the policy of that each institute I cannot say whether a particular digital content will be available through Aakos and specifically through Aakos there is nothing special about Aakos over sir I am Kannadasan remote center coordinator sir is there any time frame for the delivery of the Aakos tablet because our faculty members are totally disappointed with the delivery of this small quantity 20 numbers they feel unhappy with that one yeah what I am told is that the we appreciate that the 20 number is small but that number we could decide we had to decide based on the capacity of the pipeline at the rate at which and the rate at which the shipments are arrived so we cannot promise that even your first 20 tablets will reach I am not talking of your center I do not know how many I have reached but there have been cases where there are two centers within a kilometer of each other one has received its packet of 20 the other hasn't received anything so you just have to wait but slowly but surely your this 20 and the total I think 100s are promised right that 100 will come per center and then depending on the way things progress I think professor part has agreed to supply some more this you know supplying just imagine that a special thing like this is to be sent to something like 250 centers within a matter of days although the logistics have been set up I think reasonably well but it is the if you are working in networks you know the max flow min cut theorem the min cut is somewhere and we don't have much of a control over that so whatever is coming through that cut we are providing sir I am Julie from a CSE department I have one question using clicker software we can communicate more tablets with the local server is it possible to communicate two tablets is there any application available or it to be developed if it is said to be developed we can if we can get any help from IIT Bombay over to you sir thank you yeah we are on the verge of developing tablet to tablet communication for the clicker also presently as you can see clicker is communicating to a server but and there is a hardware requirement of server there is a hardware requirement for access points and all the same we are also trying to develop a system where a teacher is also carrying a tablet and students are also having a tablet with them and they are communicating to each other peer to peer network so there is no need of extra hardware but that all things are still under development and definitely all the development will be realized in open source from the future 1269 IERCM Bhanipur over to you my question is from hardware related things that is why the capacitive touch screen is used here in this tablet despite the resistive touch screen being more sensitive and economical this is my first question and next question is can an ADSL USB load in be used to set up an internet connection in the Aakash tablet and the third question and the last question is is there in secondary storage device there like an hard drive except SD card or pin drive in this tablet for the tube. Professor Fatak is here so I am passing on the stage to him your questions and interesting questions the resistive touch screen and capacitive touch screen debate is very old by the way universally what you say is not considered correct for the ordinary users the touch feeling and the touch usage is found much easier with the capacitive touch screen resistive touch screens good quality resistive touch screens are used whenever you want to write with a stylus on them whereas capacitive touch screens are to be used with your hand movement and the hand movement is considered far more effective and easy with the capacitive touch screen as a matter of fact I remember we spent about 2 hours in negotiating the capacitive touch screen this is the answer to the first question the second question was can you connect a hard drive just like you can connect a USB or SD card the answer is no this particular chip which is used the all winner chip which works at 1 gigahertz and as a matter of fact most of the tablet chips do not provide a direct interface to hard disk drive the hard disk drive interfaces are available but they are available with some additional circuitry which is not in the realm of the budget for this kind of tablet we have tried ADSL dongles which you which come the Wi-Fi dongles which come 2G 3G dongles which go to USB port as some of them work well however the objective of this tablet is not that eventual Akash 3 Akash 4 may even have a 3G connection through GPRS so when we have that you will have a SIM card slot and you can use that SIM card slot to connect however presently anything which works with the USB port you can find out we will be attempting to connect the conventional Tata and reliance dongles which come for the 2G and 3G connections and if we are able to resolve the problem we will inform on the moodle to everyone that this is the setting that you need to do we believe those dongles can be connected but there is no SIM card. Then in mathematical expression may be written in this tablet in the dock file we you see when you say dock x file you are talking about high end word processing generally the high end word processing is done through the word process the word processors which you use conventionally on the desktop are typically not available on tablets please remember this is the lowest end of a computer however if you wait for some time whenever Linux installation is completely successful the entire open office suit will work and we will also provide latex on top of Linux with latex you can compose all kinds of formally without any problems. So you will have to just wait till this development takes place but good point that you make this is what many engineers will be using thank you very much. I have one question ok first of all let me introduce I am Professor P. R. Bhandupadai of IRCM Institute of Information Technology Bhanipur now we belong to a big group of techno India where we have a more than a dozen engineering colleges now there is a concept of nodal centers I think ten nodal centers will be created in future apart from additional hub in Kharagpur IIT so I would like to know what is the criteria for becoming a nodal center over to you. I will be writing to all the Akash coordinators about the notion of nodal centers but these centers are not being set up from the point of view of Akash project alone they are being set up actually to support our large scale workshop conduct. Now the objective of a nodal center is that they themselves are primarily equipped to conduct workshops like this which means they must have faculty members across multiple disciplines not only in one or two disciplines. Secondly they should have a strong established R and IIT culture essentially we are looking at institutions like IIT themselves or institutions which will very quickly come up to those standards. The second restriction put by the government is because there is a large outlier fund while we can support some funding to all remote centers but the nodal centers have to be only government funded institutions nodal centers in our scheme at least cannot be any institutions other than fully government funded institution. However I will put it like this it is absolutely open to every remote center such as yours when you have group of these institutions that you can establish an avu server yourself and start beaming your own courses to other institutions of your own group and may be even to the other places. What I envisage is that over the coming years each engineering college would become some kind of a nodal center providing educational support to other institutes of higher learning and even to the schools. So to conclude nodal center in the workshop scheme of IIT Bombay I am afraid they will be limited to only 8 or 10 chosen institutions which will all be government institutions most probably these will be NIT's may be even some of the IIT's and may be some institutions which are there which have faculty in almost all the major disciplines and have a research culture. But other than that what you are asking is very correct and we would encourage you to think like that.