 Let's see the breakfast in plus TV Africa. We take you through the pages of our national dailies It's been made available by people vendor. We have open a bonka tower here was on standby He joins us this morning by zoom Open a boy is good to have you join us this beautiful Monday morning. Happy holiday by the way All right then Let's take a look at the the punch newspaper together On the punch how to new boo Sean Northwest governors and settled for Shatima, that's the Boron estate governor. I also have not West governors preferred one of them Zulim turned down offer Sources you have can Catholic secretariat fought to new boo and warned Against the Muslim Muslim ticket saying that it's insensitive You also have the former governor of Lagos state Lang Fierce saying Religion ethnicity cannot always determine our part But has that not always determined our part? I'm sure that open a bonka tower cannot wait to react to this terrorist demand four point three billion narrow for Kaduna train hostages This is what you find manufacturers threatened short down over soaring diesel price and FAC allocation drops to two point one trillion in three months Court remands Balonia linked to carry drug deal Again, you find IOC is to remit four hundred billion narrow all debts in July this is according to the NNPC and and Few hits two hundred and fifteen hour per liter in a budger or the cities and queues spread Now, you know how this actually works It would mean that the cost of transportation would also be on the high. I mean what a time we're looking at inflation double digit Almost eight years consecutively without, you know change 17 bodies of Lagos leg I Take that again 17 bodies of Lagos both accident victims Recovered and rain for Lagos resident laments flooding and transport fair hike Another caption says seller travelers orders trapped in Lagos Ibadon express traffic My kidnap is a threatened large-scale attack on Yoruba land. That's what the victim is quoted to say Just before we move away from the punch or shouldn't government candidate disagree on Ames of Amoteco And we quickly move away from the punch just as we look at the nation newspaper Why as set I selected Shatima as running mate by the flag bearer presidential flag bearer Bola I want If we truly understand the challenges upon us as a nation then we must see the imperative of placing competence in government above Religious sentiment quite interesting. That's what the pun the nation I beg your pardon is quoted to say Patrol scarcity persists in Lagos Abuja orders 17 more bodies recovered from the Lagos boat accident APC will win Conveniently or convincingly widows back a court party DIG orders deployed Committee preaches peace. That's the Oshoon 2022 elections Now you find investors Stoppage of the TTB's acquisition of Union Bank. That's another business conversation CBN Titans e-payment rules for banks That's the much we have this morning on The nation newspaper Well, that's a much we can take We do have open a boncateira who joins us via Zoom this morning open a boncateira. Let's start off with the One on the punch newspaper. It talks about the APC having picking, you know Vice presidential candidate for the party How do you react and respond? You know to his candidacy? He's preschool. What I wanted by to say it is it is ominous There's an insult to Christians and a complete disregard The Nigerian feelings We live in a country where you have religious divide whether you like it or not Which is even accentuated more pronounced. We sent the other than that administration We live in a country where the Christians believe they are being persecuted by Muslims and That belief is being justified or bolstered By the killings going on in this country in churches and what have you What is book around book around system tells you we are vast to Western style West time paradigma Living that's what book around is all about. They are vast to eat and the Christians have embraced it And so on daily basis Christians this was not a cue of Christians a Justice we got you can remember the noble Catholic priests that are ready in captivity and what I do So it will be very very happy for any Nigeria But this regard that divide that Discrimination between the Christians and the modulus as pronounced by the Muslim themselves You must address the sensitivity of Nigeria we believe But we believe that if you have a Christian as a president your vice should be a Muslim by his boss And it has become a Principia in Nigeria today. I'm not just Nigeria in most civilized life So when I had that the choice of his vice president candidate was planned and Confident I mean the surface of ethics of Britain and poverty of logic You have Confident Christians in the nuts I think along with the Christian the very Christian as well You have completed to also living came up with this argument that after all his wife is a Christian The wife is not on the balance Yes, those are the best right there is also not on the balance, but then it's a joint ticket Whatever decision the wife takes is not going to affect Nigeria's and in politics public perception index and public perception working Accusia You see you must address the feelings of Nigeria's if you want to be a leader So if you ask me in synopsis This will definitely lead to the In the most In the book has been started the political back-up of that and I cannot show you That as we speak today Christians will not vote for bullet in the book or less His aficionados his supporters are literally those that eat I don't it comes from this table No, Christian cannot even come out to say no Christian will Because I can tell you now that Argument doesn't Why is that argument not an enemy? Then I did have your hand cream They wanted to end the military team that was draconian So they needed a breath of fresh air and anything could have anything was acceptable and more so illegitimacy Enjoy cannot be enjoyed by any living Nigerian today Well, but he I mean even article with his choice It is very very wrong for you to make such a comparison My dear message my dear To please with Nigeria Never ever to consider the ballast in the most presidential Be never because that will be Llamizing Nigeria look at what happened when the cost room that the job should be won by Muslim and you saw you saw the The Corollary generated because if you say he jumps into one by Muslim Then we can also have a tradition because he does a tradition is a religious attack I can also have a current and making it happen and that is why they say Nigeria the surplus society And it's so fortunate that ballastinibu has come for that to widen the peace show the legal special And Nigerians are not definitely not going to vote for ballastinibu Now Bob with the comments that has been attributed to him It talks about Understanding the challenges as upon us as a nation and then we must if we do then we understand the need For placing and the need of placing competence In government From the north that are competent You must as a leader, be sensitive. Sensitive to the people's feelings. If you're not sensitive, then you ask not to be a leader. As long as you have to know both of what to do. Well, let's move away from that now. As you look at the punch newspaper, Phil hits 215 arpa-litre in the FCT and order states as you have the cues. I mean, if you live in Lagos state then you would understand what we're talking about. It's costing a lot of stress for those who reside here. But what are your thoughts? I mean, for a nation that would be described as one that is the biggest producer or producing nation, how can't we get out of this? And when can we really get out of all of this stress? Do you think that we can actually have a short-term plan or what would also be the long-term plan to get out of all of this fuel crisis that we're faced with? My dear, this fuel crisis that seems to have been trackable is as a result of a microscopic view that has benefitted tremendously from this scarcity. When you say how, well, the final is welcome. It's that simple as that. We've been doing come-around meetings. Damn, every time we've done come-around meetings. And at the end of the day nothing is turned around. That is the half. Why would nothing be turned around? Because you have certain persons trying to steamy the efforts of the turn-around maintenance. But once the refineries start working, then they'll be out of business. They can't make their money off of it, damn it. What are you talking about? No point. That Mr. President is a beneficiary of that matter. He's the mini-staff of Petroleum. Six months ago, they were going to fix the refineries and import the bills in my whole life. The ones that did that went to Ghana, the city there, so that they are the regular business to try. But open up on Qatar, there's also something. The top of Ukraine war. The top of Ukraine war. That is the most ridiculous excuse I've ever had. I was going to war. We had oil boom. What's that you do to it? You've got to be the best on strike. No, you can't say that. You can't say that on national television. I mean, I beg that you take that. You have to take that statement. No, no, no, no. Let me not take it. Just pass. I've said it just pass. Let me not take it. Follow my vomit. Why would I follow my vomit? No, it's not a good thing to say. But let's move away quickly from that. Open up on Qatar. We were still talking about petrol and, you know, the issue. Open up on Qatar. Open up on Qatar. The federal government is still saying that the, you know, they feel scarcity and the queues will persist until we fully deregulate. And on the other hand, you were talking about monopoly. The government is saying that deregulation is what it is. So we're just in here for a very long ride until we're fully deregulated. What do you make of this? Because we had Timmy Persever making that statement over. This is a special, this is a special reason that on the surface might look intelligent, sound intelligent, but when you dig deep, they are as useless and as ridiculous as you can see. Okay, you know that is the panacea, deregulation. Are you just realizing that in the twilight of your administration, then you made a promise that when within one, six months, one year, you're going to turn around all the refineries and we're going to put fuel so that the price of fuel will drop. Is it now you're realizing that you need deregulation? And let us see how long the deregulation will take. I tell you, what they are doing is come out to excuse it because Mr. President himself is high-act, so they come up with all these pay-per-hand policies. I call them pay-per-hand policies. Policies meant to tire the opposition. They come up with all these pay-per-hand policies in order to buy time because they don't have time to get all the processes doing this for that, that, that, we are out of office. The man is in a hurry to go. He has said it himself that he cannot wait to meet. He has said it, so he thought of never saying it. He meant to. That is not what you can do. Your own is even worse than the man you criticize. Said in buying fuel at the cheapest rate, coming up with it, the GDP are not GDP. What I want is the business of the market to come up with GDP. He wants to go and get my great-grandmother, my great-grandmother who is a little bit So, but open about Katera, do you think deregulation is a solution? It is the market. Then you break the monopoly. Does that also trickle down? Does that also trickle down to having functional refiners? I am sorry. I am asking this. I am answering this question. You break the monopoly lesson. What if in that, normally it's out to address the situation because competition sets in ordinarily. But we know what happens in this country. We still have a kabah. And could my boss in the government, PSEDA and PSCN and what have you, is it not worth that when NEPA was inside? When we have NEPA? Is it not worth? It's not worth the same thing. So, what would be different? What would be different? Because you have the kabah. You have the innocence here and there of conspiracy in that deregulation. That's how it starts this year. You do not bring a partnership. But there won't be transparency. There won't be credibility in that deregulation process. So, you still have the same kabah. So, you don't want to give in the worst. If my boss, the government will limit that you have deregulation. Does that PSEDA and PSEDA all the money they call themselves? All the money they give. That is what is going on. It also will be worse off. Don't mention power. That's not what to do. And essentially to the plight of Nigeria, even if you don't deregulate, we are going to make enough money and Nigeria will buy fuel at the cheaper rate and without any hindrass. But you have a runaway government in power. Another one talks about the fact that you have terrorists demanding $4.3 billion for Kaduna train hostages or those who are in captivity right there. What do you also make of this one? Because some people say that the recent prison break is just compensation. It was part of the demand that was made by this terrorist. However, it feels like it was an arrangement. And why would you have them also demanding this amount of money? I mean, what has it become? Is it that we cannot? We don't have what it takes to tackle those persons who are causing unrest and destroying lives and properties in our country. The demand for power is obviously billion. And that is smaller. I thought they were going to have for $200 billion. They are taking their own share. It's another way of taking their own share of oil money. I'm just very sarcastic about Nigeria's misunderstanding. The truth is, like I've always said, the government is complicit. It was a military head of state who said for a national crime to persist, the government is involved. And that is the late General Sanya Bachar. He doesn't say about NABO. That is number one. Number two, we are all aware of the key goals which wish these criminals are handled. Of them, who are in prison? We are, I think, they are watching trial. Not that they have not got convictions. Why the delay? And again, you have the likes of Gumi Kusai. This deal will not end. They will negotiate with these bandits. Gumi is moving free. It's moving free. You have, it was going to last for 20 years. Just to explain to Nigeria how and how he knew that this will last for 20 years. Also, in the situation where the National Security Advisor, we had a good attack, those who succeeded in a good attack, and called for an answer and a mission that not was a boss. Nobody said to. It was rewarded as a general appointment. I said this thing to end. And this also goes because it hasn't made so on Muslim tickets. Because this harbour is with Nigeria called Muslims. They're not Nigeria. Now they say they are Nigerians. They have overwhelmed the country. No. About the year or year about the book. Muslim. How's that man? Not in the game. Not in the game. Not that they've been overwhelmed. That they are committed. And so on. No. It's a different ball game. The government is complicit, my dear. And until you have a government of gratitude that is prepared to address this issue, I bet you you'll contain this insurgence. What if the federal government is not as mighty as we perceive? I mean, it's just possible that there's no might anyway. If you look at the military and you look at every security apparatus, it might just be it. What if we're just leaving highly of ourselves? Even if the government is not as strong as we perceive. Which I impute, I doubt. It doesn't make it. This is where it was won on that scenario. Who prepared the attack? It came and saw from that scenario. What will make you compete the training mode into the armed forces? And these small people provided funds. You provided funds. It was a public, it was a press conference. And they said, This is not for walks. It's not that it's tomorrow now. But for me, there's not many wedding. Where it will go. So I'm so on. If they saw this thing. Where it will go. No one. Open up on guitar. Before we move away to this, the newspaper where we look at the IOCs and the fact that it's been reported that they are killing local oil servicing companies. Let's talk about terrorist and negotiation. I mean, this is the popular thing that government would not or shouldn't negotiate with terrorists. But do you think that the Nigerian government gets into negotiation and conversation with this terrorist? How do you negotiate with terrorists? You can negotiate with militants and not terrorists. I hope you appreciate the distinction. Militants are not criminals. They are not. Militants are those who want to use political means to change the situation. They are not criminals. That's the mistake we don't do. You can negotiate with a militant or you can negotiate with terrorists. How do they negotiate with terrorists? Why would I negotiate with terrorists? Are you saying go and see no more? How do you negotiate? How do you go and see no more? You don't negotiate. But my question is, do you think that the Nigerian government negotiates with this terrorist? I mean, we see the release of these bandits or any other time. And if they negotiate with terrorists... We know that, you know, generally speaking, there would be a disclaimer saying, oh, we don't negotiate with terrorists, which is actually a universal language. I mean, governments of different countries and of the world will say, you don't have to negotiate with terrorists. Nobody negotiates with terrorists. But, I mean, let's narrow it down to what's going on. Are we negotiating with terrorists in Nigeria? If you look at that, you know, a lot of people saying that the fact that there was a demand for the release of certain persons who were in captivity and the fact that you had a jailbreak at that particular time, it looks as if it was actually an inside job. It was planned. It was some sort of, you know, negotiation on an agreement that was put out. So my question is, do you think that in all of this that the Nigerian government negotiates with this terrorist? Mostly they have been negotiating now. You need to be told. They have been negotiating. When they talk of amnesty, they said... If you remember when they said how many thousands of terrorists, how did they look at them? How surrendered? They have done their sins and put it in their prison complex and now they have been rehabilitated. Do you remember? This was even just last year because of negotiation. And Erofa, you said, after that whole process, they went back to the booth to continue with their terrorism. Erofa, you said that. Zulu said it and so on. Is that the negotiation we are talking about? Are you talking about the jailbreak? The jailbreak is of a certain amount. How can you justify? How do you explain? Oh, God, God, stop. What is happening in this man? I'll give you a story. We are preparing the jailbreak. You know what's happening? He said, I'm not going to die when I... Don't be... I'm not going to die for my company. This jailbreak, when this kid is out, they want to protect the food. I tell them that's the jailbreak. It doesn't put the prison complex in the mouth. That's what I'm talking about. Open up on Qatar. Let's move away from that. On the this day newspaper talks about the IOC is killing local oil servicing companies in Nigeria. And a stick holder has actually reasoned that concern. The executive secretary of the Nigerian content development and monitoring board said that international oil companies operating in the country maltreating the indigenous firm and making it, you know, in the sector and making it difficult for those local servicing oil companies to thrive. Do you think that this is anything to go by? Also looking at the fact that these IOCs are also divesting and the federal government on the other hand or the government has stated that we need to be worried. I mean, the fact that they're divesting is a threat, you know, to us as a people. What do you make of this? Open up on Qatar here. Open up on... The IOCs. Yes, what is the question? The question is, do you agree with the school of thoughts that the IOCs are killing local oil servicing companies in Nigeria? The way this IOC is international, we're talking about the international oil companies and how they are maltreating. Well, the truth is, yeah, the truth is, it's a cabal. Maybe don't belong to that cabal. This might be... Do you really change it? It's a cabal thing. So you must belong to that cabal. And for you to belong to that cabal, of course, you must have the nod of the presidency. I did not say president. I said president. And they make sure they postrate every product. And that's why the local government are really complaining. And again, you also talk of perception. You don't say something like that physically. They believe and rely more. They trust the IOCs more than the local ones. I also blame them because they might put in frauds. How do they add capabilities of Nigeria? How is it possible? How is the truth about it? And do they have the capacity? There are so many factors that you have to consider. So many. But then, if you have a government that wants the local ones to go, you can make a way for them. They are through laws, enforcement, and so on. You can. I'll use reverse says, for example, Klaus Jules-Belger Constructing practically everything you can construct in reverse says. But you know what? The laborers from the state, 700 Naira Paddy, but they're slavery. Why? Because the government allowed it. They cried out. They protested. That's why they said the government has a role to play. But we've got rather than addressing it, they were arrested and detained. One is even dead. So it depends on the government. They live in an environment, enforcement of those laws. And now they have no choice. They needed this oil. They're limited now. They're addressing now because of security. But this did not take place. Okay? The government went to sleep. Excuse me. Not just the whereas government. I'm talking about giving the government that predicted whereas government. Why? Because they are also beneficiaries. That was the truth about it. So it's all about the community. It can be addressed. It depends on the government. Well, I mean, from all that you have talked about this morning and for everything that we always talk about, it seemed that the problem lies where there's no wheel. It feels like we're just a polity. In nature. Exist and then you have leaders who do not have the will power to make anything work. Because it feels like it's just no wheel. If there's a wheel, then there will be a way. Yes, I just thought it was necessary. We are presidents that I'm back on the long side under the land of indiscretion in nature. And I am here to be back. Oh, for now, boy, it's always interesting. I mean, speaking with you. Thank you so much for being part of the breakfast this morning of the president. Precisely. You look good. You look quite good. Thank you. I appreciate. We look forward to sharing your thoughts and some of national issues as we progress towards 2023. Thank you so much for being part of the show. We take a breakdown. And we'll return. We're looking at our first major conversation right here. Are we going to, you know, have a point where you have Nigerian citizens of the country? Getting to that stage where they're so angry and so tired of the status quo. And then they decide, you know, to troop out, take a walk to the streets. And, you know, to all paths. I mean, we're talking about all paths of the country and I'm showing that their voice and their demands are being met. That would be our focus when we return. Please stay with us.