 Welcome back to JC Saka Show with DJ Nix and me Miriam Masaba. Yes, and today is such an amazing day because we get to celebrate our fathers and we get to honor them on such a day. You know, it's very rare, okay? And not to see achi ya tuwa pa, atileo ishi ya pa, we get to celebrate our fathers daily, daily, every day you wake up. Remember your dad as much as you remember your mama. Treat them equally. Sindio, hey, because both of them kuna bile, they compliment each other when it comes to bringing you up and their roles in your lives. They compliment each other, but wacha tu tongelia yo mo during our inspiration vibe. Yes, and today in studio, we are really honored to have him in studio. Such a blessing maze. Who am I talking about guys? Drumrolls. We have not heard a guest in studio for a long time. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. This is hot. No mama! We have not let DJ Nix to make up brand new. Anyway. If you are a brand new person, if you are a brand new person, you will be an artist in the building. Anyway. Since you are a brand new. Yes, and it's a brand new. It's the first time after COVID to host our first guest. Yes, it's such a privilege. We are blessed with this opportunity. Anyway, the guest is Mr. Chairman. Rintan Afoko. Actually, he is the most handsome gospel artist in Africa. One of the most humble artists in the whole world. And this is the most inspirational brand new artist. How do you define humility? Humility. Humility is just following the full steps of Jesus. Yes. Jesus is just following Jesus. Jesus is just following the steps of Jesus. Maybe he is just following the steps of Jesus. No, Jesus is just following the steps of Jesus. On a donkey. On a donkey. Yes, not a horse. Can I tell you? Yes. You cannot define humility by putting on bad clothes, by being dirty, by sleeping on a bad mattress, being patrol ourselves. So you cannot define humility by that. I was ordained in heaven. Where? We say..... actually all election ist in heaven. Mi mi na neka wa.... Puti yao kx je yao kwa ketare, mi tuzfua mbinguni. If there are some question there, please relay the question to Chair for me to the Chair Boys ttefanya me, ukeli, onaji weh chiama ni na maanishanga unalida na panya bitu. Ttefanya, ni vit ni steps gani, after uhliskiya ordination niyan ku... Ya, watu dugumbe? Ime sub kwa step mniki, nai kwa mungu atyaguangi vivi, nai kwa mi din kwa kwa nga I used to be a street boy. Nini g expedia mama, bilababa. Nain imefi kapa. Sasa mungu ahili nwa ni kwa chairman kwasababu. Ni ki endesa rengi lover noma, atta asani wa secular wa ki hangali wakini wakini aona seme hi umsae a konazo. Na ni mami kut redo nkurtuna fikiNo Ny후wa hot, menitiần Kolia Curt Ny nhưngumaya Nmiti Uro Nmiti 제품 sounded Isine Ngire Hata Ya, ya. Songz na kama na revelation. Kwa ima mi na ima na sa utiangu. Ire na kini pataku ni kiyosha vi yonboko ha kicheni angu, ama ni kifanya ni ii ni yosha utiangu na deo yoyo. Deo yoyo yoyo. Tila kini, ikiwa na anointi, muna fikirikini talent. So, mi am not talented, I am a product of hard work. Why? When I recorded my first song, nika peleka nga radio station Flani, wa li kataku chesa. Nili kasi rika. The same song ni kwa na peleka na sisa, every week na peleka, mbaka waka kasi rika waka chesa. Naji wama DJ Flani, wa li kwanga apa KBC station ni yuwa na tuwa na Metro FM. Umelo akina keiku. Nili wada tiyangu na songi angu waka kataku chesa. Nili wada tiyangu wada tiyaka waka kasi rika. Waka ni yona wana saba abadi tuwi kuchesia na Sunday. Udi yona. Mbia pa na chesa tena. Naji wama na kuchesia, please. Eni mbaka muna yuwa na naka mbia, ah, please. Naji waka ni yona taka tuwi kuchesia. Sa marig应a naka mwama kunip Layinga. Kaisa na Mbakula. Mwama, k RNAa chesabia. Ni nani yona. Zangumu qwe inayت ni pac yen. Hello. Zika hit. Elafnez ikna zuka rilizi, wa batifaz zngina wana release, tunona wa sigwe. Akina, palika, maile zaia kupiga mawe. Tkona... Kuna wumbre yumbo. Azia di ni actor. She just acted in my song. Mimi, it's not a collaboration. It's not a featuring. Why? Okay, wakamuna sema, wana complained to the an actor wakita doesnwaia mawe. Cho kia walema actor wali kwa. Walingia kuatalanta, Pamella. Pamella wala wa trotu wakwa yu video. Awa siti wami wakoka. Yu kichu kwa actors misi nani wami wakoka ndini kweke. Kama ni kipata mama na uza mboga. Nmombia maze ni acti e. Sii mudzen kwa wami wakoka. Kama waji wakoka skweki. Yin acting. Eiko sababu wili alikuwa basht pali filter. Sababu wakati kama wakutu yon na. Alikuwa meskend. Alikuwa meskend? Asikuwa nimeju wa mimi. Maze unani. Haji sasa. Awa nalikuwa meskend. Maze unani. Awa nalikuwa meskend. Umetema isong sii featuring. Laki nikuwa ta ito liyaka. Ata YouTube mutu waki e na kwa wami wakoka ndini. Apa na producer ndini kwa wami wakaka ndini. Tukutu tukarektify. Iwi o rington stroke asia. Ako na sayi. Ako na yoha. Umetema edit. Edit. Edit. Edit. E? Eli omemi wami waka wami wakoka ndini. Kwa ni yuka chaguwa e kwa wakutu. Na yoha meseji ake. Ama. Inspiration na yoha song. Iwi kwa na kuchuwa bibi e baati. O, sababu yotu aipa li kwa na puwa mao puwa mao. Isifu tu. Laki nisa na kwa na bibi e baati. Baati e tla understand. Nizutu kiakitia kuna matu na akitia nyu mbaka maia mgu. Anaiza kuwija mebi e katali e apa. Bebi e baati e kuseba ni mmyungia ea bibi. Maybe nyu mba zitu na ake. Asia na ni nizuwa tofauti. Mina ishi runa e nisi banana. So kudatofauti. Siko bae. Ani nise matu ni wukuweli. Si ma ringo. So kwa ni ni, so kualifikationu apa kuwanza wukuwa na ineza letata tizda. I just wanted somebody, mwenia na onewa. Ya, sometimes you see like he's going over but. Nizutu niza kuwija. Iya nisa ne. Kama mimi, oto mikuwa kini tu singi wana nia mbi o rington wukuwa na macho kubwa. So mimi nia mbi o macho mikuwa kubwa. Nia nia defanya operasyon nikuwa ndogo. Nani mimi wali kumba bibi o. O, nia nia nia mbi o rington. You are too light skinned. You need to be a little bit dark chocolate. Nia nia nia nipaka ni ni. Nini nikuwa mimi ni. Eh, itiza tata wana nisa mimi ni supusana. Nia nia mimi ni mungubana. Nizutu wa. Nizutu wana nizutu wa kura kitu rington na mesema. Ali kuna tafutamu tu ana piguwa mawe. Why did they have to be a lady sababu umesema dana? Nia waka, at the same time, bahati piya ali kuna itwa. Most of my fans are ladies. Okay. Because they, you know, it's... So, let's make it qua actress. Ita kaniza, wuki alantuna mafansuakia wengini. Nima dem tu wana feel, wana preachuaivyo. Lakin wuki pata bibi alantuna, a lot of young boys listen wana muna kama mama mother figure. So, it works just like that. Naniwa. So, mimi mafansuangu wengini ma dem. Nidikuwa nitaka kuongelesha tu. Never the rest, it is neither here nor there. I'm a man singing. Inizu biya, nidikuwa atako constitution niya Kenya, kuna agenda balance. So, nidikuwa mimi nima nome na nimi ima ima, nidikuwa nini nweka wana nometupu. Nidikuwa. Sipasini nweka tu atapiyam zchana, ama. Iza sabili, nituwa geta wana afi kuongelesha. Uli mongelesha e aziat. Kuprichi. Yes, of course. Of course, that's the first thing. Nato tuka omba. We planted, nidikuwa kaziangu mimi siyesu. I do not save people. So, I cannot force you. You have to get saved. I only tell you about Jesus and I tell you this what Jesus done to me. Namiya, if you want, any day you feel like you would want to meet this Jesus, halatmi. Yes. Umlid kuwa preyat. Umlid kuwa preyat. Yomba tu daki akwa rediku. Okay. But it was not her. We had like 30 people, 30 actors. Why are you guys singling her? All the others are also important. I thought to really quit this song. Ya, quit it. Last year, around this time. Yes. Atanas, atanas mania liyatikuwa. Yomba, nidikuwa, nidikuwa, nidikuwa, nidikuwa. Anyway, he let me muntukuna tmbe na plaka nivi, looking for a wife. You released a song? We alafuak a release song. Wajan umzali pata bibi. Nikuwa na tafta bibi. Uga pata. Nikuwa, nidikuwa, nikuwa na na Westisle. Nika mani miabandon kazi ya mungu na tafta bibi. Nika, nika, nika suma scripture. Nudemi ya alafu reading the Bible. So, I read this Bible and deka ni ambiya, if you do the work of God, God will do your work. So, I went to do what God has called me to do, which is ministering, talking to God's people, encouraging them, preaching the word of God. So, I went back to do the work of God. I left all my needs, all my desires to God. So, nika chamungua, the only thing I did, nika una instead ya kilasiku ni enza, kuru dia same story, nika una ni tuyongoma, nga uma, suma can be played over and over again. So, I decided to put all my desires, desires angu, ulem dem mani na mtaka binyanaka, qualities ni, ni, ni. Nika ziwa kakwa suma. So, don't blame me if the song came out nice, it's just because we are not into it. Don't blame me if the song sounds sweet. We are talking about your story, Kutafuta Baby, and today being a father's day, kuna wale wa tu, we have seen you, or Palemtanda only guiding people, sana, sana artists. Now, to you, una guide sababu you have been there for so long. So, kuna wale artistia, waneza kuwana kuwangali as a father figure in the ministry's industry. Ata will Paul. Will Paul am like his father, because ni herein tu me mutota me kwa ame enda evi, because I'll will Paul, ni rikuyu te rekauna mesejes teliku mendo mio kwa Facebook. Ni yakin ni yambia matem from Madhara, ni katakwa suwa kuhimba bongo gospo, ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni. Lakin ni yotamsana ujwa, yotama fraudu Facebook hiriku na rangu watu five thousand, hana five thousand nuengi. Itu kwa na nga kuwangali, ya nga mesej's kuasagi ba, ui kingiya tu kuasagi ba nkifungwa evi, una meseji me trrrrrrrrr neo'zia nsaakya metu, Una toroka, hini watwa sikasirike, wakone wini snob. So, will Paul, actually if he's watching, I am very sorry I never answered you on Facebook. But look where you are now, now you are a star. But please, there's something I can tell you as your spiritual father. Please go back to the cross, go back to God. Iregadi will Paul an ndesya, ali pata na pesa ya kanissani. Ali kuja kaimba na girori ya kilia, wakristo tu kamu rumia, tu kamu download, tu kamu subscribe, tu kamu watch. Aka pata pesa ka nuwa mazidis, ametroka menda kwa ba. Please will Paul. Kama agusiria satake mamba mungu. A uza mazidis, apene pesa koma children's homes, 22 na kwa pata papalini. Pesa hii pata na ministry. E, kwa isa mungu? Za mungu. All the Christians who are watching today, pesa hini nulia will Paul mazidis, na ametroka skizia na hini ya kwa ba. But mention, talking about will Paul. Na je pa le kwa komen sectiona na sema, weo na itajanga wei di Paul, Bahati, Salasana, for your own popularity. I am popular than them of course. Of course. Bahati am yanza Juzy. Uza mungu aipana iso statistics. Of course I am popular than them. But how canza aji kujibu not even once? They can't because they have to respect, I am their chairman. And the father. I am a chairman. Uzi jibu chairmanu, wio, wio. E, ok. Chairman, weo na mga zbu yun na jibu chairmanu. Na wale, na wale sosa. Kuna mungi na niliwa na kif postivitu Juzy amu, ni ni mula ni. Eskwizi anafanya Bahati kazi yamkono. Ni ni mula ni. Oh, deki jana. I mean, isi mi Juzy na. Bakiti kuna wakati. Nifanya kazi wakini, siya zini baby sita squeeze i. I mean intersema iwi, kuna wakati kwa interview tukaskia. You know, watu wakifanya huduma. Kuna wakati unasi mama na waw. Laki ni kama wakati kama hu, hauja sema ma na eia. Uyomu ni unasema. Pa na, we see what you do. Mi kazi yamkono, I'm about the kingdom. Mi kazi yamkono di yamungu. I'm not saying rington is righteous. I'm not saying rington is the most upright. No, we don't go personal. But we about the work. Kazi yamkono di yamungu. Mimi si say mi kwa ma minimu takatisu kushinda, we will pull. But, sii kenyo we will pull anafanya kwa ni mbake na na no my business. Ioda mwaka in prayer. Pati kenya na tokom do muake, kama li kwa na imba, bwana esu asifiwe, lea me kuja na imba jihawas chana, lazima ni mkosawe. Because, ame tokakwa kazi. Sii sii ma soja wa Christ. Ame tokakwa kazi, yei tu ni kama mi defect. You understand me? Kama baha, ali kwa na imba gizuri, mu toto wa mama, unamuka skumuja, na pata mewa dress, high heels, bra, q-tex, lisi jwia mi paka ni ni kwa ni ni. Really? We kama chi yama no, how would you advise? Let's manage yam. Let's manage yam. Kama chi yama nkosawe. Anajiari bu kufanya, vijana ma boys, wanzi kona they can be women. They can be men. It's not true. God created men to be men. God created women to be women. Women, wow. Dem ways it after de mwenzaka kwa chaliako, ama chali ways it after chali mwenzaka kwa, chali mweshtaka kwa, iti avai dress ame kwa dem, iti can't. Kwa? Nipo ume yusho yama na zima gizuri? Sii tu li kwa tu na ulize, iso ma sualizo, daki ni kwa ume jibu. Ame ume jibu. You just need, kira soko na itaji wa zimu? Iso kwa ya esu, ya apa ya apa, na itaji mutu wazimu kama mimi, mwenyako na pesa, mwenyame barikiwa, nama toka fa. Sii iti ume kena kwa ume yuseme, ya baba ya kia, chikora, ako apa. Ukinana rengi nama mu piya, una yua mungwa na piya nama. Anyway, that aside, that aside because of time we are running out of time, isongyako mu piya ya zoya mawe. What is the inspiration behind it, and what made you write that song, and what is just the inspiration about that song? Tell us more about it. Most of the young people and most of the people who are dreamers when you are going to have dreams, they give up because wame onewa, wame tukano, wame sengenwa, wame mutu wame postki tu jiyake mba usi ya ukweli, so they give up. So basically this song nime itoa kwa encourage, nitu wate mwenyako na doto, na akuna dream, look at Joseph, wakatia ni amuka sumoja, akambia, baba ya ke, nama brothers ya ke, haa, nime dream, nime dream nime onewa, haa ki nini nini wate, mume inama imbele hangu, mi nime no kwa king wenyu, nia wakiyangali angdo, muntutu muntutu the smallest. Wakuma brothers ya ke ukweli za, wame mutu wate muntutu, jiyake muntutu kuku ina miya, jiyate muntutu kwa king, waka ono muntutu, umtutu ila zima tumuze. So what I want to say is, my song is to encourage anybody who has a dream. When people throw shade at you, when people abuse you, when people look down on you, when they discourage you, do not give up. I am a product of persistence. Mimi nimi ambewa, jiyake zi imbele hangu ni kamayachura, mi nimi riyambiwa, hata wei nimi agli, nisi jiyake nini, nimi nimi nimi ambewa, lakini nimi kataku give up, sa aia tawato miya zi, wala lukwa nani ambiya, mimi jiyuku imbele hangu, niba kamachura, skrizo nani ambiwa, ka plizu kutu hangu manekst, achini tag, wuna imba poa, wuna jiyu ina fanya nini. Ya understand, nimi oku jiyaku realize, if I gave up, they could not be following me today. So I just want to sing my song ya zoya kupigwa mawe. And basically I remember, nimi yengi watakuchuki abila sababue, wengi watakonea bilama kosa. Mambo yengi watasema, ya kukubu unja moyo, nika waida konea wevu, wevesi wa kwanza, ikisha kumuli kaha, yotouchi yamungu, mawe yengi utapigwa, jiyakazi yamungu, sata wei usifemu, zoya kupigwa mawe, zoya kupigwa mawe. Kuna kitu ni, naizataka kujua, isong sababu mei toa, time yengi, everybody kuna saiba bullying, kuna watu wa napigwa, ataki siya sa, kimziki everywhere, kuna iso saiba bullying, kuna asewa naienda waseki nyuma. Ni, jiyu aizivi tuzi nahapendi uliyandika, ama how did the song come about? It's just an inspiration, God just, I just don't know, I can't comprehend. You know me I'm very prayerful, there's a time in Nidkwan 21 days of fasting and prayer. So I think here the time nili pata, revelation, nika pata ii message, nika ii record, nai song nika shingwa, when do I release the song? So when, as you're saying, when the time got to a kati kuna a lot of cyberbullying, impaka unana masikuli artist unasa kutwa songs, za cyberbullying. So I felt, you know what? The message was defined for this moment. So song u luku mei yandika before? Nikuwa nisha yandika. Nikuwa nisha yandika. Okay. Amazing, thank you. I had somewhere that, your father abandoned you when you were very, very little, very young. But I know, I believe you have father figures in your life. So what is the message that you're passing across to them? It's father's day. Even me, I'm a father to so many. I'm a father to so many. Let me answer your story to kato kapodrewa kawirupol. We were talking about being a father. Mekli ya kwanza, biological ama. No, I'm saying, I said I'm a spiritual father to so many. I am a spiritual father to so many. So those people look up to me as maybe ulianza kuhimba kwa sababu uliona ringtona mimba gospelina bamba, mimba pamella, mimba nini. So I just want to speak to them and tell them if you want to, if you look at me as rington, as your spiritual father, music father, there are a couple of things you must know. Mimi, I am about Christ. Yes. Ya ni, I carry my cross every day niki fata yeso. Nasi, mimi, what I know, niki fail, sika hangi chini. When I fall, I have to rise and run again. So I have to encourage two hours to what they want to follow. If whatever you are doing, even if you fail, please do not stay down. Rise up and try again. Kuna kwa tuna penda. You will never know how to ride a bicycle by reading a book. If you want to ride a bicycle, you jump on it, you fall down, you have to yourself, don't give up, you try again and again and again, uta ndesha bike. Yes. So atapia, atako, kristo ni same, atako mzikipia ni the same. So nita ga dukwambia toa say, happy father's day, na the father figure you have in your life. Copy the good qualities they have. Like me, I have a lot of good qualities. Copy me, the bad things. Don't copy bad things. Focus on the good things only. The good things only. Yes. Rington, I have a question for you from one of our viewers. Those are friends of J.C. Saco and Aito Hadz at Santos, Semagote, Arrington, Dix, and I wish you all happy father's days. And as Sema, I have a question for Rington. How does the big people in gospel industry help they are coming? Since I haven't seen any top gospel artist in Kenya holding a hand of any upcoming talent. Yes, let me get an answer from Rington. No, it depends how you look at yourself. Me, I've been to thousands and thousands of high schools in Kenya. Niki enakwa fanya ni, kumotiveti ma vidyanak. Namotiveti waluwa nanda kwa ma journalist. Namotiveti waluwa nanda kwa ma doctor. Namotiveti waluwa nanda kwa politicians. Namon, because they are politicians, they are not our mente when they are good politicians. So for me, I am not for musicians. I am not for them. For me, I am for the whole generation. I want to inspire DJs. I want to inspire actors. So, mimi, I think I've done my part and I continue to do it very well. Nimaenda, if there is a musician leo onikenda kufa leo, I'll die happy. Because I am the only musician who has been to like all the schools in Kenya. Nikienda kwa ma vidyanak. I was a street boy. God raised me from being a nothing and I've become a something. Yes. You truly inspired me by there on a serious note. You understand? Yes, yes. Kusikam kuna yamtu, siya lasma niku bebe niku meleka studio. No. Kusikam kuna yamtu, onezakwa yu at a point where you were supposed to give up. Nika kuchano, nika kumbia, ok give up or what I make it. I understand it. Yes, I understand. Unambia kitu real, ukweli. Be real with them. Wow. Thank you so much, Frington, for making time to come to J.C.Sako. We are so humble to have you. Yes, please come back again. Yes. Uki toa hiksongingine. Itsong next battle. Aparu. Aparu. Aparu. Anyway, tuta mwacha ki performi ozoia mawe. Now, what else, T.J. next? Yes. Iyo zoia mawe. Iyo ni utatumalizia nayo sababuk na jua twengi wa meingoja. Na kuna, iyo tu na nashanga interview tumerifanya vizuri. Kizungu ikoivi. Lakin ni endapale Instagram. Ha ha ha ha ha. Nani ni mitu kumalizi ata. Nani uhandolizos, bwether ni kwa ni besakwa. Nani uhandolizos social media pagesako. Apuana. Miya know how to speak English, but I don't know how to write. Ha ha ha ha ha. So don't, don't blame me. I am trying. I am working so much. Yes. Kusama na jua. Kuangia na jua kuandikand yoshida. But I'll try. I'm trying. Let me tell you. Where I was two years ago is not where I am today. And the way I am today, trust me in the name of Jesus, is not where I'm going to be next year, the same time like today. You might be despising my English today. Amma bweneo na unan. In next year time kama leo, you'll be so shocked na kuwana kusinda orango. Ha ha ha ha. Anyway, amen. Amen to that. Amen to that. Anyway, mention your social media platform as we DGNX. Cuse those songs. Alright. Instagram. Yes. Rington Apoko. Saini me fika 250. Kei follow us. I touch Chairman, na nafa kwa 2 million, nama 3 million, nama 5. Buenina wa puate. Please follow, follow. You cannot love Jesus and you do not love the chairman of gospel. Mi niki zana ya yasum zuli. Follow me. Yes. Instagram. Rington Apoko. Facebook. Rington Alex Apoko. Twitter. Rington Apoko. But follow the chairman. Mi niki ya chairman. Mi niki ya kiyongo zwenu. I have to perform. Yes, sir. Okay, let's do it.