 I love chicken. You love the bird or the meat? The bird or the meat? I love animals. You love animals? Yeah, yeah. Because I love chicken. Chicken is an animal. Yeah, but I love chicken. You like to kill them? Yeah, I love to kill chickens. I'll cut them. No, no. No, chickens are beautiful animals. You wouldn't kill one, though, would you? No, but they lay eggs. You eat their bodies and they want to leave it. Leave it. Leave it. He's helping me. He's actually helping me. Are you vegans? What makes you say that? Maybe I'm friends with the chickens and just asking you why you eat them. Do you like chickpeas? Yeah. You should eat chickpeas instead. Yeah, I do eat chickpeas. I love chickpeas. What about vegan chicken? Corn, fungus. I don't do fungus. I love just corn. I love that this is not bacon. That is good. It's not chicken. I have as well. Really? Is that tofu? It's made of... Are you trying to sell us to a chicken? Oh, you've got... Shall I get chicken here? Say, reformed chicken killer. Oh, you want me to say that? I want you to say you're a reformed chicken killer and you won't kill them anymore. All that eggs. Yeah, they kill those birds, too. No, but they're alive when you have eggs. But they send them to the gas chamber and put them in chicken nuggets. No, I have chickens in my back garden. They don't eat that. You eat them, so... I don't eat chickens. You want to change it up now? You can't. I've got a longer memory than that, so... What's your favourite vegan dish? I love... Like, going right there into Burger King, they've got a vegan royale. It's a vegan chicken sandwich. Do you like Caesar salad? I like Caesar salad with chicken. You can put... There's a McDonald's over there. There's a chicken nugget McChain meal. They've also got a McPlant in there. I actually rate the McPlant. The McPlant food. The mozzarella sticks are good. Yeah, mozzie dippers. But then with the dairy cows that... Oh, no, she just sat down. Look, now you've brought up a big... I know, I've got up another thing. If it's upsetting, like, I just don't pay for it to happen. No, it is upsetting, but at the end of the day, I've been booked up on it. So was I. I know you were. Me and Trimitch. Yeah, I've come from Australia. The thing is, I live in my family home, right? My mum does the food shop, not me. OK, what do you want me to ask you this? Did your mum come home with a carcass of a dog and put it on a table? Would you eat it? Because your mum bought it? In Asia, they do. No, no, no, I'm just talking about you here. I don't know. I don't pet dogs. You wouldn't eat it, would you? Because it's a dog. Exactly. So you just wouldn't eat it. But you would eat a chicken. You get it? Even if your mum bought it? So what's the difference between a chicken and a dog? I've always eaten chicken. I've never eaten a dog. But I mean, like, ethically, what's the difference between those two animals? They don't want to live two chickens. They don't want to die. Yeah, I want to live. I don't want to die. You wouldn't want to be eaten, would you? No, not unless I have to. Exactly. You don't have to eat a chicken. They don't want to be eaten. Yeah, but like, shut up. I'm a creature of love, it. That's the thing. I mean, you can change your habits. No, 100%. If I could find an alternative that is bang-on and my mum will buy it, I would 100%. I was vegan in year nine. Do you remember? No. I was vegan in year nine at school. I did it for a bit. But it wasn't to say I had no energy, because I was so young I wasn't educated on it properly. I thought, if they teach these things in school, I might learn how to be a vegan. There's a lot of issues with why people aren't vegan. I got so skinny, you know. Yeah, you've got to eat more calories. Because I wasn't doing it properly. You have to eat more calories, that's all. It's easy fix. But if someone taught me properly... Let me ask you this. If I had a chicken right here, I would have a banana sore. You should bring that home. She don't like bananas. You wouldn't want me to hurt the bird, would you? I would want it away. The chickens over there... The birds fly, I cry, I hate birds. You scare the feathers and the rustling and all that. They frighten me. If the chicken was over there, and I said, give me five pounds, I'll go kill them, snap their neck, cut their hair. I would never want you to kill it, but I'd want it away. I don't pay them to kill it, I pay to eat it. The money goes to the slaughterhouse. You're so right. That's why there exist slaughterhouses. They should have people like you on the TV to tell me. I'm just talking to you right now. You're just a regular guy, safe in the world. You're actually a hero, not a hero. You should be vegan if you care about animals. Otherwise you're paying for their suffering. I care about animals. But clearly not enough. Yeah. I think if you were faced with what? If I have a relationship with the animal, I would never eat a rabbit because I've had pet rabbits. From today I will turn vegan. Oh really? Yeah. Pinky promise. I will try and be more vegan. What works as my family house? I'll try my best. Think of the animals like their little subjective experience. The M&S. I know this is a bit big, but M&S do. They do this soft and fried chicken. Poor chickens. Poor chickens. I don't like roast chicken. You're eating the dead body of someone. I don't like roast chicken, but I love soft chicken. You don't love it if you've seen what happened to those little birds in those shed. I know. You're eating something that's really horrible. I know because I've seen the footage. Have you seen the footage? My friend told me about the cows when they raped the cows to get the milk. Yeah, of course. I don't actually drink cow's milk. I don't drink vegan cheese. No, I don't. I don't really rate cheese to be fair. I like cheddar to be fair. I don't like cheddar more than I like respect the rights of cows not to be tortured and killed. You're such a good person. It's not even good. It's just like not doing something egregious and cruel. It's neutral, really. We need to go home and work on ourselves. We need to just chat to our moms. Yeah. You've got responsibility. I do actually cook vegan dinners. I like chickpea curry. What do you think about fish? I think that they don't want to be slaughtered either. Have you seen the Netflix video about the dolphins? Seaspiracy? Yeah, Seaspiracy. A friend of mine made that movie. They're both going vegan today. I think he promised I'll go vegan. They're going to remember the animal every time they buy the chicken. I'm going to think of the little salmon. You're going to get them every time you slaughter them. You're responsible for them. Yeah, I go vegan. Yeah, you should go vegan. Because you think it's wrong. Be vegan, my friend. You already think it's wrong. Okay, I go. It's been lovely talking to you. Great to talk to you too. We will do our best to improve our lives. You do it for others. You've got to put into the world what you want out of the world. And you do to others what you would want done to you. You're so right. On that note, I'm going to have a double vodka lemonade. And a big plant after. Big plant. No, I'll just go over there and eat the grass. No. Like a true vegan. A true vegan eats grass. See you later, bye-bye. I don't know, will they go vegan? I don't know. Probably not. Maybe they'll think about it a little more. People don't usually go vegan like that anyway. It's usually like little seeds that get planted. Maybe they'll go talk about it. Maybe they'll just saying it to be nice to me. But, we'll see.