 Okay, I know that chat. What's up YouTube? What's up, man? I'm here my man Kent's crib We are chilling in the um streaming room. This is where our setup our green screen is popping This is the needed podcast episode number 21 doing this for 21 weeks And it's the first time I get to enjoy my man Kent. Yeah Introduce yourself to the YouTube the YouTube will you hit the like button? Please comment on if you think Kent did a good job or you think he sucked There's one or the other and please let me know and maybe my levels are good chat Let me know like I said introduce yourself to the YouTube crowd because the YouTube doesn't twitch barely knows you Listen, I mean People probably know me for fortnight. Nobody that's got a way of my name recently So you probably know me a little bit from that, but yeah balling you up and playing man for quite some time So that's how I met dubby and that's why we're doing this today back when you played man and Man wait back when you like played a little bit. I was the man Yep, and now you just you're washed up But you got the night just Kent just got the best streaming equipment in the world and just doesn't stream He's the only one that has all he look he has a green screen Yeah, he went out and bought the douchebag green screen You know saying he bought the douchebag green screen and you see like it only fits after fucking But he never streams it's the only one that has the 99 setup, but never streams. It's pretty crazy. Yeah But uh, first of all, let's talk about Madden Bowl and how Kent was a main reason why I won the Madden Bowl I'll let you tell the story back when I went to Orlando and I was looking bad against Keynes Okay, and I was able to beat true boy and jet because one I'll tell you how bad jet is You know jet was locking me up right in the first half nickel blitz in the shit out For some reason in a third quarter or something he came out in 4-4 like cover to invert just block shit defense You know what I did being a veteran. I know huddled my ass up and down the field I was not gonna let him get back in the nickel blitz. Yeah, but anyway I struggled against nickel blitz and then when I came home for a week. What did you help me learn? I mean, it was painful to watch. I'm sitting here. I'm watching this go down. I'm like, I am a man I know he's better than this. He's way better than this He just he's got nothing for this nickel blitz. So nope. Nobody had anything for nickel blitz So he came back. I'm like we hopped on. I'm like, look I'm a lab. Yep We're gonna get this nickel blitz nickel blitz blocked. We Flight in the the way to the block it. Mm-hmm, which involved. What was it like a purple route? Delay route And it allowed you to see based on where the sea was on the head for Pause you gotta pause when you say on the head and stuff like that. Oh, it's a twist chat YouTube He's not used to doing broadcasts. You got to say pause me So lots are short what we did is he could tell by the what we were doing He could tell if the nickel was gonna come in clean or if the running back was gonna pick them up You could tell by the icon. So going into the Play ball man ball in the man ball and Houston against Super Bowl weekend, right? Yep. Yep So I'm out in Vegas got everybody watching Out there we're out there for the Super Bowl. Everybody's watching Wynn. Hey, I flew in this defense watch this He's gonna dominate sure shit. He did So he was able to block the blitz players at that time weren't used to having somebody being able to block it So they didn't believe it was real right? So they kept firing nickel blitz nickel blitz And so it just made the game so easy for W which is why he won the one the tournament I won the tournament because Yeah, that's pretty much why I'd be problem. Yeah, and if you watch that game I didn't trust it right away in the first half Like I was still doing the bunch thing block everybody and slide left and just try it But then once that you would see if you watch that game. I watch it You know, I watched at least 10 times Once I got to feel like this is gonna work every time it made it so easy just two seams and enroute and just It was made again really easy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah But it was good because in Orlando. I didn't have to play nickel other than jet And he was the only but he stopped running it because I played true boy And then I played Holly who ran some wild shit that wasn't nickel blitz But Kent is like I would probably say about 15% of the reason why I won that last game now game against problem He probably is like 45 50% reason why so so you know, he's throwing out statistics here 15% 45% I didn't get cut not not shit. You're on the podcast right now For the world like nobody knows what blowing up is without me You just got a whole shout out to that you have all the streaming equipment All you got to do is flick a stream on a man every once in a while you get a host you get everything But you know, you don't want to play for the for tonight. Oh for nice not for you You got to give this up man. No for tonight's my game for for I'm tough as shit for a night But That is Kent. He used to come up with all the hotness back ten years ago But I don't know I mean you want to talk you don't want to talk about the Chuck Hollywood No, we won't talk about that. That's that first that was people don't want to know what people may know about Chuck Hollywood I think they know about that. First of all, it was a fluky situation. It really was So let's just let's let's go there real quick. All right, so I'm gonna game. All right. What tournament was this? It's somewhere out players bowl Philadelphia August and I was like February 4th 2008 Yep. Yep. So 2008 It's when I was probably the only year I was tough in bed anyways Relatively tough. All right. I was you know rocket catching doing doing the post route or strafe catching I guess is what it was at the time. Yeah doing the post route It was you know just becoming popular like like strafe catching didn't come become a thing till later in the year Secret was running it at the early tournaments. I went to an early tournament saw what he was doing brought it into my game Started running it. I don't know. I mean did I just run into you in an island game or something? I don't remember how it went down long story short. I Was running this route Where you could get a one-handed animation into the end zone much like this year right now? Yeah, that one hand animation is worse this year than it was then no one handed in zone No way. I'm telling you as a check they play mad now that one hand in the end zone right now was all the way No, it really is a big deal right now man People are catching what time I'm out. You don't can you can you trigger that animation every single time right now? Hey, I would tell you it's it's pretty consistent. It wasn't you couldn't trigger it every time back then It was just no no time when you do boners. There's a hundred percent of time. You can trigger this animation Yeah, I'm telling you but now I'm telling you that same animation is bad. It's bright. I'm a little better So it's not as bad as it was then but anyways, it was OP you get down You in depending on which route it was and the distance from the goal line was what play you would call So like at a trio there was like this post route that you would motion over to the right Corner the end zone must go up get it one-hander touchdown from 25 yards out Problem was as you got closer to the end zone those one-handed routes Warrant is easily triggered So cooked up one from like inside the five out of weak. I something anyways W didn't come to the source for how to do it, right? He bit it from like I think Akron boy or something shout out to Akron boy. He's been in the community for some time Anyways, I think he bit it from Akron boy went to went to players ball got to what finally found for Runs in the Chuck Hollywood by the way If you've lost the Chuck Hollywood, you're not a real Madden players. Let's just start there. Yeah, that's bad It was bad bad player. He goes to my route that he bit from a third party and what I Was his fluke like it was his fluke. It didn't work. It didn't work. It's not that didn't work It just I mean it could happen anybody throw pick through a pick game over lost Chuck Hollywood. So Yeah, he's got Chuck Hollywood El on his belt also Kent I will give Kent credit this is that he was the first man with the quarters three deep defense and mad 16 Although me myself I took it to an insane level by incorporating the cover to sink when Kent was just running You know prevent and things of that nature, but what made the quarter three deep hot? Oh, it stopped the run that stopped inside zone not stop and blew up inside zone Yeah, most of them some of it. So if there's a title in there, then blow it up. Okay. Okay. Okay But yeah, the quarter three deep was good if I would have had cover to sink and that Jeff champions tournament No, because I was just running like prevent cover three and that's not but there he is. Whoa, man. There he is Then we timed out who What's up? I saw he's on a creep name. Let me tell you this will you back now who has new names all the time? I will tell you this who was in rare form this morning. I go in the stream. He's in a bad Oh a battle with Ty reloaded man And I tell you man who if who the thing with who if he would record that important YouTube He'd get 20,000 views easily man that game was awesome He wound up losing it because he is right though. Everybody has that's actually gonna win this one No, he everybody actually has the six-month e-book for Siebel right now. Everybody has that we're halfway through the year He's right. So everybody pretty much has you know What's my call it has like the scheme like I'm gonna run bunch rooter outcamps like Joe Rice and Kiv and all that Yeah, and I'm gonna go ahead and run the three to five like like pop and that's you know That's what everybody's gonna do check and so now see was playing people that are doing this and you know A little bit better than him and they're kind of whooping his ass right now, but SDW is actually so all right, so I Guess is that something new? I mean, well who if all these games were played in the first like month. I think we would have a better chance Oh, yeah, you know right now with Michael Vick and everything You know, it's really tough for who to go ahead and get wins if they he probably played them Like you know and August early September you probably win. Yeah, or when a new game comes out. Yeah What was definitely a new game type of guy when a new game comes out We can run his five wide and make his reach You know, he's just really on top of people, but apparently I did not see him versus SDW but I would bet SDW beat him every single time because S is actually pretty good and See what was not that caliber player, but I did not see that but he went six and oh was placement games You know placement games unless you play anybody So everybody's gonna go six and oh in a placement games And he started playing good people and started taking some Larry's and then it's when I went when I went back When I went back to hit the string cuz you know I was driving this morning. So I'm in the car I'm looking at I was I watched the one game and he lost. He chose to do a page before picks, but And then he blames, you know, six-month thing. Yeah, but so now go so now I'm like damn Let me hop back in the car I might have went to the market or some hot bag in the car go to watch see we'll get back on fortnight He tapped out early today. He was on fortnight before 1 p.m. I was like damn well, that's for us. We'll see if he can qualify. Couldn't he qualify for last-chance tournament 32 top There's not a chance We got my man Vilma in the building. We're gonna talk about them in the C4 championship Once again, he's in the final four of the C4 championship There's six people that go to the seat Six people show up. No, there's more people than that like The C4 this is all I want to talk about is the C4 events because Obviously, Larry Ridley is doing a little something with his man thing on the side You know, he's he's pumping out these man tournaments. He has like the nice Set up to an extent, you know what I mean? He's got you know, this online qualifying everything's running good but man, um If he wants to elevate it to the next level to get all the top players We got to be giving up more than six hundred dollars to whoever win because my man Jimmy From who run Philly gives out more than six hundred dollars So if you're in Philly man, please check out who run Philly all the tournaments will be promoted You will make more than six hundred dollars. So if Larry really he's he's on the right path to do something good for the community But you need to at some point Get over a thousand dollars total prize pool You know because like if you got to five thousand total prize then maybe people say alright Let me play regs for a little bit. Let me try to qualify You know what I mean and that's that's pretty much where I think Larry Because it looks like a lot of money being thrown around with these Larry Ridley tournaments between the sponsors The people he had broadcasts in the Foxwood casinos, you know what I mean? It's like it's like come on man You got give us a little bit of a little bit more money, you know raise the prize a little bit more and Vilma has won so many that he actually has a whole dining room set of gaming chairs right now Yeah, because they get he gets his 600 any gaming chair, you know So he has four gaming chairs one's broken a little bit and he has two that are in a box still So if you need a new gaming chair Anyway chat YouTube if you need a new gaming chair, please hit up TBO Vilma. He's in the chat right now Vilma, what's the price going for right now? Vilma will sell you these chairs for $50 a piece He was really trying to get rid of them, man Could you get on the game be single right now honestly, honestly, I think I could I really do who is pretty good who is not bad He knows how to he runs the nickel G and man's up everybody and he runs bunch No, I think I think I think I could be I think and this is what's crazy me about see what was that? He will complain about everybody running the nation, but he runs the nation. It's not like he out here was something Spectacular, he's just running over G man. Everybody up like kids. He's running a bunch like So problem when you play in see who here's it here's when you play people like see who here's why they are I Don't I don't want to I want to use the right word. I don't want to call tough. I mean it's not tough, but When you're playing a random Okay, okay, that's like what it's like playing see who okay because the problem is He don't know why the fuck he's calling what he's calling and he doesn't know why he manned up that guy to that receiver He's just doing it. So he's just doing it. So how do you even anticipate what he's gonna go to to then counter that? You don't know so see who might have a game where he might lock somebody up because you don't have a clue What he's calling because he doesn't know why he's calling it and then he's gonna get games where he's getting flooded Because again, he doesn't know why he's calling what he's calling. It's a good point But I mean, I think I think you're just credit and rules of Madden intelligence. I think he's actually kind of smart He just always like he just make a lot of mistakes, you know, and that's eventually that means he's not smart, but Like I said Larry Ridley, we got to raise the price. We got to get a bigger prize pool That's essentially what people show out to do is the money makes people come out makes the big guns come out So so they must not be in a franchise at every live event You're saying no and so we want to get him playing against, you know, the better players And essentially that's why that tournament is the d-league because you know, you don't have the big-name players It's not really even as what's up. It's really not even the You know, it's not about the tournament it's about who you're playing, you know And even he says don't do beat T. Davis every time they get to these live events Like he beat him every time But in the one game where Wilma had to beat him to get to the Arizona Club series He lost that game. Mm-hmm. So that was the one that meant something. Yeah, it meant a lot more Okay, so okay, that's pretty much and that's why I'd be mad at Wilma because he's good enough to win these rags games You're saying where when he's playing the d-league guys But if he would go ahead and put the effort in the mutt and the effort into mutt that he does into rags and shit Then he would be a better man. So again, we want to put a plug out there buy those gaming chairs Wilma needs that point to build up a salary cat. Yes, please help him out with that If you need a gaming chair and saying Wilma got six of them bitches And I know he's Wilma got six gaming chairs and don't say one. He's still be chilling on the bed playing the game. I promise But uh, but it is Foxwood casinos. It's not this weekend. It's the weekend after I believe Hopefully I'll be able to go up there and support my man. Wilma to win his like fifth C4 championship. He does he is the Yukon women Of c4 championships. I'll tell you that he definitely is and it's important because like, I mean shoot if At the end of the day, it's not the brightest lights, but it's still bright lights You know what I mean? You get a little experience playing, you know live events playing next to somebody and playing with a lot of people watching So it's definitely a good experience and I should have it. It's free money. It's free money You know what I mean? So right now choppy for real. Wilma, he'll tell you right now, man He's selling these these chairs man, especially if you're in the new york area Hit them up. Wilma will definitely drive that thing to you for a cool 50 Uh, but anyway, that's why so this weekend the man challenge is live and live in color The man challenge we haven't talked about draft champions No one has played draft champions is the online elimination Which I kind of feel like it was like six months ago and saying but it really was like two weeks ago to the Which one the single elimination for the man challenge now We got the groups So we want to take a look at these groups and we're going to find out who we like and who you like Even though at this point I feel like you don't even know who any of these people really are But we will take a look at these groups and pick who we got coming out of these groups And who is the person that's going to stay home It's pretty much we're going to go to in the first group. We got a pavin the club champion I mean the club series champion has made the groups again or has made the next live event Which was always impressive to win a belt and then come back and make the last live event Whitby small mac former belt winner on draft champions So how many are coming out of the four three three? Yes only one person gets set behind And then two I believe four people get buys I really don't know because if it's three to six twelve people get out. So then it's Yeah, I think two people get buys. I mean, I already I already got my pick. So also who you got between pot Who you think you're not excited or crit you got one of those guys ain't gonna make it That's what I said. Whatever crit olden. You don't like him. Amen. It was a good run That's a good run. You don't get some crit. I mean, he's been in the chat a long time. He's a twitch guy Been in a twitch chat probably since I've been streaming saying he's a playstation guy So it's kind of making a live event on playstation is a little half a reward is making a live event on xbox It's like it's like playing in that c4 tournament qualifying on ps4 It's like no more windows c4 tournaments. It's like making a live event And I'm saying we want to stop talking about them a c4 tournament. All right That's a good accomplishment for a race player It's the best thing you can do on race other than win the one race tournament that mattered, but Anyway, so you like crit to be the one to get knocked out. I'm not mad at you. I think side is a tricky player I play side a lot. Um So I would agree with you. Obviously I got the two belt winners moving on But draft champions is a fickle beast, man, you know, because one of these guys get their playbook a decent draft They can make a good run, you know, that's a big deal, but I agree with your crit probably not making it out Next group we got the kane man. J. It's the best last year as raven's club series champion spoto and bugs Who do we got not coming out of here? I mean jay's best Yeah, you got jay. It's the best one take it l right now. He says he's out I like spoto. I like bugs like spoto canes. So here's what here's what I observe about canes. He's always in the mix He's always around But when is he gonna make the run? That's what I'm looking for. I want to see him get to a final four Get to a fuck championship game and see what he can do. He's always in the mix Yeah, so I think he has a good chance. I guess I think bugs. I played bugs a lot the last three years This is the best. He's probably ever been playing madden right now. So unless he super lays down He should make a good run. It's what's his defense looking like Uh That's been his downfall It's always been his downfall or he pressed the wrong button in certain times and stuff like that You know, he's getting old, you know, this is a big tournament So we see by fully he's definitely gonna get out of here and spoto the man that was very mad at me for not putting him Into the top 10 in the madden draft. He thought top 10. Yeah, he thought he should be in the top 10 Okay, I'm saying he thought he said because he made two draft champions live events And he won a club. He said he should be in the top 10 You know, I felt us a lot of people with your accomplishments and we will go back this go back to our play station debate Definitely made it from play station. So You got to take that with a grain of salt. Yeah So but I told him early he we were dm and I was like man This is why you worried about where somebody ranks you just go ahead and win And then people will be forced to rank you high if you win this belt So we shall see how spoto responds to not being picked in the top 10 of the w madden mock draft So we shall see how he responds, but I agree with you jas only has that club series championship with the ravens Uh, that is his resume And I agree with kames man. You're right. I mean, I think this might be his tournament to make a run But it's going to be tough with boys and spoto. This is a sneaky little decent group So the next one is probably the best group of the tournament between joining goals Joe rice and vy electrify and this is seems like an easy pick. So who's not going to make it out of here? vy vy demolish skimbo on the online elimination vy is prepared for this tournament Vy is the draft champs guy. He's a he's a two tight end run stretch and dive and stuff like that You know, so you might be prepared. So I don't know if joe rice is a draft champs guy right now Joe rice in his group got blown out by 40 two games and made it out It's crazy to think that But by two games, I'm switching joe rice is out. Joe rice is out. Joe rice is out I think ghost ghost is really good I played him a couple times with draft champions, obviously and journey is the draft champs god of all gods So dream is definitely gonna make a good run So I would not be surprised that joe rice who his group score was that he was a negative 86 in his combined It's not good for joe rice. Yeah, he got to show us something here In the uh man challenge for him to move on next four. We got Kerry Q Crush young kid and prodigy. That's another tough little group. All these groups have some substantial players in it, you know But I mean This one's won't come down for me between crushing prodigy I think kerry's want to make a run kerry with that dudes close Especially the way it's playing right now. I think he can make a decent little run in this tournament obviously kiv is kiv and uh christ crushing kiver boys. I talked about this Last time I went over this one me and skimbo were in a group together And um the madden classic last year. He didn't help me at all Like he didn't help me prepare for the other two guys Like we could have teamed up and had a great plan for both of them, right? Yeah, but his his thought process was Okay, if I helped them be prepared for kerry, he don't want to be the same person. Yes Exactly that was his thought process to where if if I lock up kerry, then he's gonna be prepared for it Yeah, I didn't play skimbo. Yeah, so he didn't help me at all I wound up going three and on that group including busting skimbo ass So that's just a little bit of karma that comes back. I'm saying and uh But we'll see how crush and kiv go ahead and if they prepare or if kiv has the same mindset That skimbo had because kiv is the brains of this operation these 818 guys, you know I think crush has a little bit more Um thoughts than joe right joe rice is just kiv's like ever since he tried to get his haircut You know that joe rice is just he does what kiv says what kiv does joe rice does But I think crush is a little bit more think outside the box try to make his own way Than joe rice is but you know, we'll see how that goes by Proud of you is another good player. Where are we landing here? I must you know I'm I'm I'm gonna take I think crush is gonna go crush is gonna go. I think I gotta agree. Ah, that's tough But yeah, I agree with you I think kerry and prized me both want to run the ball a little bit And uh kerry I think kerry is poised to make a little run especially if he gets the right draft If he gets like a real good running back. I don't know and one thing about The draft champions is the last couple years. They've always Changed the draft like before the live event like last year at the like when you had the online elimination You could have one team wound up getting five 91 zones and another team only getting one Right, that's how I was online. But then that's competitive mad But then when we got to the live event they all the drafts were pretty much the same Everybody got two 91 zones. Everybody got, you know, a similar draft So I wonder if though we'll switch the drafts at all between now and Or between the online part and now so that's pretty much what I how I'm thinking as far as You know, what they're gonna do If they're gonna change the draft at all, you know, that's that's pretty much how I'm thinking about that but That goes back and that's where I bring to the broadcast like what have they had at these draft champions broadcasts This is going to be Probably the fifth draft champions tournament between the first year to have one the second year. I believe they had two Man 17 year they had two man 18 they had one and man 90 this is going to be the fifth draft champions broadcast Now, I think to this is pretty much how What can they do? What have they done in the past broadcasts for the draft champions ones? And what can they do differently for me? There's a lot of downtime in the man's tournament, right? Where the senator does talking to cookie boy and skimbo, whatever the hell doing the broadcast, right? I think they should record everybody's draft the entire draft, right? It's not hard obs hit record boom Bang That's pretty much a how it is But then they should also interview these guys and talk about which draft pick was the hardest Which one was the easiest and pretty much show their draft in the entirety And why they chose who they chose exactly and and and pretty much because the draft not going to take long To show a draft it might take 10 15 minutes to show a whole draft You know, even the longest draft in the world going to be, you know, a nice 15 minutes That's the longest some drafts can go by in eight minutes if you're getting the right player And this would be the perfect segment to go to In between games as they're teaming up as they're loading up to play the next game I don't want to sit there and listen to them talk about god knows what just feeling airtime Show me something show me what i'm about to watch why they got the team that they they got to and And talk about that also talk about some of the base players too that you may have like This guy might have an 85 speed Gold db where the other guy only has a 79 goals gold db You know, it's pretty much different different things of different things that are in the playbooks as well Man, there's so many things that I can prepare in the draft champions tournament Then i've just shown their top three players like that doesn't really show me what the decisions were Show me about a tough decision. Maybe they only had two y receivers But then they could have got a legend y receiver, but they still wanted that legend db Make these guys sit down and talk about it because they're going to be there on wednesday tomorrow They're going to get there. They're not going to play prior till friday And it won't take too much too long to do this Honestly, we could do this from here for every player in a couple hours really and if they're going to have little interviews This is something that I think can really help the draft champions broadcast I think it's something that everybody would be, you know, awesome to really watch and then see That player go ahead and perform though He took randy moss instead of man rod woodson So let's see if randy moss can really go off Bang randy moss is catching passes now your commentator move can say wow, that's pretty dope that randy moss man He made a plays that decision was right for him And then we can go by and think about all the decisions made in his draft like damn Maybe he should have picked that running back. He didn't just run the ball in from the two-yard line He had to settle for three. He should have took franko harris or whatever may be So I think that's definitely a good thing. They can always go back to Throughout the game. So really but We'll see and I don't know. I don't know if skimbo is going to do the commentary I'm assuming that he wouldn't because I I already know he was sick from doing the commentary one tournament that he wasn't in If he had to go do time with commentary back to back and some as he didn't make he'd be pretty sick So I didn't ask him, but I'm assuming that he's not going to do it But I know The mlb guy is going to be back. Did you check out the Oh mbl, whatever it is. Did you check out the broadcast at the club championship? Yeah, no, I think I saw the the one guy, uh I don't know what his name is. I forget. He did well. He did well I think they all did very well. I think the broadcast was really good. Obviously. I think scott and rg are fabulous Yeah, and like so like you said, I really don't have a problem with any of the broadcast really Even the way it got desynced a couple times they were able to fix that really fast But this goes back to showing the whole draft man Give me the whole damn draft and people will say man They don't want their opponents to know all the draft picks the thing about draft champions is After we do the drafts or like the night before the tournament they'll hand you a whole Paper of the opponent's players Pretty much every tournament is something that They uh, they don't tell enough people that they literally give you a packet with the wheel everybody else in the tournament their entire team That's good. They playbook everything. Yeah, that's good info. Yeah, and they don't tell you enough So it's nothing it's nothing that these players up there don't know already and if they want to put the time in and really learn it for the most part But that's just the biggest thing I think that can help the broadcast and um shoot But let's talk about the nfl free agency right now because The eagles are once again, probably the best team in the nsc right now. I'm excited about them Talk about your lions, okay Are we still lions? Are we fully cleveland browns now? We're we're on the browns. We're on the browns You know, I gave I gave a lot of time to the lions They haven't done a damn thing. They will never do a damn thing So when baker came to cleveland, that's when we kind of switched allegiances So as of last year, I'm a browns fan. So that's kind of where we're at right now So you're a browns fan. So I don't give a shit what the lions have going on Matt patricius is basically Taking all the patriots players bringing them to detroit They're still not going to be able to do a damn thing. It's okay I mean, sure, but so you're on the browns the browns a lot of my buddies are in cleveland, obviously But and so they're hype about the browns bang because they got elivia vernon They got shelter riches and they boosted up. Oh, they're gonna guru right there in the building without a sub badge next to his name guru, I appreciate you coming by I'm saying it's okay. All that money is cool You can spend it with your celebrities and all your good times you'd be having with them And just keep putting on the good twitch shows for mutton and But uh, look at that. Look, I'll see what's spelled the vision to like G oh jesus golly but anyway But so the browns have definitely got this is probably the the best outlook the browns have had in a long time As far as one the browns have got a lot better and The stillers got weaker the ravens got substantially weaker and the bangles are the bangles Actually, I think marvin louis is actually gone now. Isn't he he's gone So marvin louis isn't going to be in with the bangles. That's pretty wild So they kind of just Step back a little ways from calling so the bangles I think are going to struggle just a little bit when you have somebody in there for like 20 years Is definitely going to be a little tougher to go So I think the browns are really when you really look at the browns because potentially win that division. No doubt Although i'm not mad at what the stillers are doing because although it would suck to be a stillers fan You probably lost your two most exciting players You know to I mean hall of fame and quality players really and antonio brown was probably close to top five receiver ever He's gone And levion's been gone Where'd levion go to school? Michigan state. Okay. All right. So how do you feel about levion bell as a person? He's the best of the NFL. No like all seriousness. I mean, that's your guy. But how do you feel about him? I'm gonna be honest. I don't like what he's been doing to the stillers. Um I think there's some things that we'll never know as the general public as to why it went down the way it went down I have my thoughts on that almost that. Um, I don't think he could pass the drug test So he's failed too So if you were to show it up to camp failed a third you're out of the NFL for good So he used that as a platform to say i'm holding out for the greater good of the running backs and to get more Money that kind of thing. Mmm. I think it goes out. I just don't think he could have passed the drug test He knew three strikes. He was out. So you already failed the two drug tests and three strikes. He was done. Yep So essentially is this three strike thing last forever to where if he comes back in the league now and fails drug test He's out. Yeah Okay, that's resting. Yeah, that's resting So we'll never know but that that that's my take on it But I think this is still a man. Yeah, I still think the stillers are okay You know, they stuck to their guns. They're stuck to their decisions And ultimately auto internal brown is fabulous and levion bella is fabulous one They miss levion bella. You're obviously going to miss a player like that, but you can replace the running back You know, we see the teams do it all the time and I'm not gonna say you can replace Antonio brown But one juju is becoming a pretty solid borderline pro bow type wide receiver And he's going to be that down now Obviously, you would love to have two wide receivers and you're running back like they had last year or the year before this We know what I mean. But uh, I mean, I think they'll be okay if they you know, just stick to their guns So, how do you think ab is gonna do not being where do you end up oakland oakland? Who's throwing them the ball their car? That's not been right. It's Derek car. I don't think How do you think ab will do not having a hall of fame quarterback? Throwing them the ball I mean, we'll see I just for me the Raiders The Raiders philosophy was what was the Raiders and we're going to trade our best player for draft picks, right? Not the money best players up a more impactful player to football than Antonio brown Would you agree that calil mac is more impactful to a football game than Antonio brown? Yes, I yeah, I agree with that. Okay. So a better football player calil mac than son of brown We want to give up on him a younger better football player We want to give up on him not pay him what he wants For first round picks. Okay. That you know, if that's the move you want to make now, it's time to super tank, right? No, no, no, they're gonna get bossa It was I'm saying but now it's time to super tank is what I'm saying like after you trade your best player Yeah, now we're in rebuild mode. Yeah, right. Absolutely. So but then we turn around and take Antonio brown we trade picks for him But I can't really be mad at this one bro because they traded a fifth round pick and I believe a third and a fifth For Antonio brown. It's not terrible. So they got good value. Yeah You know what I'm saying? I definitely I think that uh, they got good value So you can't really ultimately mad at it, but it's just a little the philosophy is a little bit different We're not going to give the money to our superstar defensive end But we'll give it to a 34 year old y receiver. Yeah So it's a little the philosophy is a little bit different But ultimately I feel like that you can't really you can't really complain about it because they didn't spend the arm and a leg to get Antonio brown And I think another thing you got you got to think about it's just a whole contract situation, right? Antonio brown to your point Yeah, is that kind of near and the end of his career, right? Absolutely. So yeah, you're paying him a lot of money in a short time period Mm-hmm. Khalil Mack would have tied up your money 10 years for a hell of a lot longer So there's a little bit of that going on. Yeah, I mean, we'll see I just I feel like why receivers? I just don't feel like obviously I've been in my whole life the e-wills have been The most they've been a good team pretty much my whole life not like the best team in the league But the e-wills have been a competitive team for 25 30 years like from now. Boom. They have been and uh They have had years with terrible wire receivers with with thrash and pinks then and I've seen it Get to the point where it's like we are not winning because we don't have a wire receiver But there was still a good team, but they just that wire receiver. And then when they got to that changed the team He was that impactful that it changed the team. Now, I'll be the first to tell you I think Tio was the third best wire receiver without question that ever played and if he had a head on his shoulders Where it wasn't always about him. He could have been the best wire receiver to ever play You know, and I don't think Antonio Brown will ever have that impact that taro lones had Especially in the time back then where there weren't wire receivers all over the place. He was special But I just don't think there's that many wire receivers that can have that big an impact You know to where it's worth it, you know to really make them the cornerstone of your team really that's all I mean the league's really missing to your point. They're missing like that to you. I mean, who would you say is Tarlon, who would you say is the best receiver in the league right now? It was Antonio Brown. I would be hard pressed to put anybody over Oh, I would be hard pressed to take anybody over Antonio Brown But Julio is I would still say it's Antonio Brown He's going to have to have two years and not be because he wasn't the best receiver in the league If you had to play with One season with receivers that are in the league right now. How they're playing. Who's the best receiver? I think man I think you still got to take Julio Julio Jones um One player that obviously is up there Odell is great. I think deandre hopkins is Probably in the top. I like do you have deandre hopkins is very good. I think Odell's overrated I see I think yeah, I could sit up. I'll tell you who's a dog And like I think adam thielen's unreal. I really don't know that dude I think adam thielen is like I've always said like in the beginning of the year when he was going off And he's getting like 10 kisses a hundred yards every swim game. I was like, yo, he's playing like a top five I'm a receiver right now, right? That's how I felt But to me it was like then he started falling off a little bit But for me if I got a fourth and eight and I need to go somebody to ball I might take thielen over everybody For that situation Because you know, he's getting past the sticks. Yeah, and you know, he's gonna find a saucepots He's definitely catching a ball. He is going to put himself in a position to get the ball For sure. Edelman is not in my top Edelman's pretty clutch though Edelman is clutch But the one-hander that he saved the super ball. I mean come on. Yeah, I don't miss pretty damn tough, but Yeah, Beckham, I don't want to say Beckham's overrated, but I will tell you this if Beckham never made that wild ass catch You're right. If he never made that what would you know about him? Which was the best catch of all time It was ridiculous. Nobody can argue that but if Beckham didn't make that catch His buzz would not be as bad as he was. I really think he's really good But he's that that catch really took him to the point where oh my goodness. I'm saying Yeah, so I definitely think he's kind of overrated, but But yeah, I like feeling a lot And I mean shot of my man alshon jeffrey. He got beat in the top sense. No, come on, man And the shine Jackson I will tell you the alshon jeffrey the shine Jackson combo is kind of mean That's a nice. That's a nice listen. Listen take l l shine's not even in the conversation As a combo l shine's not a combo. What l shine was good five six years ago I'll shine just have had a huge super bowl huge playoffs. What are you talking about? He's done it on a big stage. No Beckham's never done it on a big stage Listen, you're not put if we go back to the receiver conversation and you're starting a team Where's l shine's not even in the top 40 receiver if I'm gonna talk about one season right now. He's in the top 40 receiver stop Not tough sort of team because he is like 30 31 years old. Yeah, what I'm talking about as far as one year He's slow Oh, l l shine i'm not even we're not even entertaining this conversation. I'll tell you what the shine is still a factor How was the outside not a fit? How is the sound effect? Speak speak. Oh, but catching the ball is not important and catching contested. You gotta get open He's how's it open? He's slow You want to know l shine's getting open because he's got the strong Jackson running people off exactly It's not because l shine. It's not because l shine. First of all, l shine ability was two years now He snapped both years without the shine Jackson with Nelson Aguilar running people l shine is washed But now I'll tell you if you have l shine to shine Jackson and earths, that's a mean little That's a mean little passing receiving core, right? I don't think it is. I don't think it is Bruh, here's what d jack brings. You got the deep threat, right? Yes okay teams are gonna take that away l shine Is not you need him to be able to to make to make a difference, right? You need him to as teams are getting double the bracketing to Shawn They're putting two over top of them. Whatever they're doing with him. You can still cover l shine with one dude. Mm-hmm. Yeah The pictures then doing the Super Bowl Because they said they wanted him to beat him and he did and he did everybody beat them They didn't cover anybody in Super Bowl. They did and we still got earths can earths be one person earths Just earth is solid earth is solid like 125 earth is solid earth is solid So essentially l shine is kind of like the third option Yeah, is that not a bad third option? I mean, it's do you think of madden where he has 87 speed? That's what you're thinking, right? Oh, no No, you can take l shine out of a game with one guy. Oh, they'll just got traded to the browns Is this is this live and living color right now? Oh, it's not Did this just break? Are we breaking news on the needed gaming? Oh All right, I'll Odell is the real deal. Um, he's probably top three receiver in the league right now I gotta change my whole take on this now. Oh, though. Yeah, he's different. That's crazy. Hey kd. Check in kd Check in kd I know you're in here kd kd check in who's kd kd is a huge um stream supporter and is a huge giants fan Okay. Okay. Check in kd. Wow. Hey, he looks good in that uni baker. Oh, wow That's tough. Yeah, you know what as an eagles fan, they lose land in collins Not a trade. Oh, don't beckham I feel good about beating the giants twice now easy even with those players. You were beating them twice Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean he lies under center. They're terrible. This is honestly This is a big move not only for real life, but for madden the browns were already a pretty decent madden team Not like top tier, but to add 94 speed odell You know what I mean? Now you want to have like I said Joe, right? So you want to have Jarvis landry and odell beckham with that david in joku tight end That's good and fast. You know what I mean? They could be a decent little madden team, especially adding. Um, they're making a playoff No, they added no Lions got trade flow. They added olivia vernin Shelton richerson, so they're going to be a decent denzel ward still back there They're definitely going to be a decent little madden team, man They got param in the brown This guy this guy just told me brown back onto the browns. He told me I mean that's he's on the screen, bro. No, but he said this he said this before like he's watching the ad Okay, okay, you know, so I'm not upset with that man. So so kb has not checked in yet disappointed in kb not checking in kb will check in who else is a huge giants fan Oh, yeah, let's just add all the giants fans right here chat I know a bunch of them. Let's go. Let's laugh it Let's just laugh or just want to put laughs and then add all my giants fans. I don't know Chat, let me know all the giants fans out there Oh, let me see. Where's this? So you'll be a pro with this stream stuff one day Load up the other one. Load up the other one So we're gonna go oh Bang go here click that click what just click the screen Yeah, well, I don't want what you clicked the wrong one I just put these things around. All right. Just click on the twitch click on the switch All right Yeah, but so you don't understand we have a display capture right now to I hope it's still innocent. All right. We're all right We're all right. You know what I mean? I this only okay. All right. I got you. All right. Who we at here? Now let's go We're laughing. I know we're putting in here first person. We're putting in here Skomo no doubt about it KD Boom, come on chat. Who else we putting in this right here, man. Vy. Yep. Mm-hmm Stevie J. Yep. Come on chat. Oh jo jo is definitely Vy. Let's get it Maybe I don't follow him. Yeah, maybe I don't who knows He went why the shirt with y 7b. Oh, shit Oh, there he is Farrell's man bible Who else we got chat? The whole man bible even still thing man bible might still be kind of fell off a little bit, right? Jay bird. Yep. Mm-hmm. Come on chat. You know, you got more fard Oh holly. Oh, yes. Good call Oh, no Fard come on chat We got half we got half a little bar left to fill in this with names Or we just put more laughing faces Skimo is not a lion a giant's fan. Come on. Let's put some more laughing faces Spoto is a giant's fan All right, spoto. Let's put him in here. Ha ha That's all we got I think this is all we got More laughing faces. You're right Let's just put more laughing faces Little bronze the bronze are doing it How many more laughing faces can we put in here a lot more Truzy. Oh, yeah, Truzy. I mean I don't want to put Truzy in here. We can put you below in here though. Mm-hmm She won Truzy, let's put Truzy in here This is the best part about sports is laughing at other people Boom. No, really, that's why we watch sports is so you'll laugh at other people And first the third is a bro peppers I really I think the eagle should have went and got my old doe Beckham That would have been tough Now if you had to shine old doe out shining earths that would be tough That'd be tough. Okay. I mean Elshan is not He's a face catcher fart is in here already Bang tweet is out That's crazy. Oh, they really went there and got old doe. That's that's it'll make the eagles Path a lot easier. It's kind of like the reason why the Patriots are so good every year They have the easiest path in the world to get to the playoffs every single year and get a first round by every single year That's pretty crazy. You know what I mean? That's like, damn So I think that's want to help the eagles get better. I think it's want to help their path get easier And it's definitely a good news for the nfc east I was disappointed if um Uh that lane and cons went to the redskins I was happy that he lost the one to the giant or left the giants but from the little reskins But I don't feel the redskins. I don't feel the redskins because they traded for case kingdom. Like come on. You know what I mean? Like Then the cowboys lost the wide receiver that kills the eagles more than anybody in the world and Cole Beasley Cole Beasley was unguardable by the Philadelphia Eagles in the last five years Like every time they needed a 35 a 34 38 Cole Beasley got the got the first down So for the for the cowboys to lose him was a big loss and I'm very happy about it man. I really am Definitely want to go ahead and uh Be happy about them not having Cole Beasley anymore I know What else is there to talk about the last chance qualifier Now you're tapping out before you even start on last chance qualifier. I mean, I don't I don't have the funds to um To participate in that they cost money Yeah, it costs a lot of money to or doesn't just cost the investment into men as your hobby and that's something you want to do I mean, I'm gonna tell you right now For for somebody to not spend a dime and have a good team Madness to be Your life has to be all right. This is my question to you If you played men as much as you played for tonight, how good would your team be? Like a couple hours a night or the weekend you play All right, so but but here's the thing Also, what and here's an opportunity for ea Who doesn't listen to shit? um I don't want to sit there and grind solo after solo. I mean, I want to play the game I want to play a human being. I don't think you have to play solos I think if you play honestly, you play season. I don't have time for the solo shit So look first of all this from the man. We're not going to talk about you dissecting the game moment from a couple years ago We're not going that was when you really fell off though That is when yeah, just buy coins. See jack jack is right now. You could just buy coins However, I feel this yes, you can but you it's Anyways, you can buy coins, but this is how I feel I feel like if you Make men something you want to do if you enjoy playing men Whether you're playing somebody real good or somebody decent or a head-to-head game You can make your team good if you invest time into it not solo time a lot of time We can I'll tell you this I think it's it's the most expensive man's ever been to play on mud The most expensive by far with training points new player coming out every way It's the most expensive. It's been by far However, it is also the easiest way to make coins without buying them this year But from weekend league, but but here's the thing about weekend league. Here's the thing about weekend league, okay If I were to start playing we you have to play that from day one from day one. That's what I say It's a you I commit to man I mean, that's not a man player or you just play casually. That's the difference That's where the disconnect is if you want to compete Can't be casual all right as a madden pro Yeah, you want that to to be what you have to do to to compete. Absolutely You so you want so fucking why because I am committed to To put my time invest not only my money But my time to improve my team from the day of the game drops to the day the new game drops I will invest my time. I will invest my energy to be the best man player in the world No, I don't want Kent who doesn't invest who doesn't lock in who doesn't put the passion of time energy In demand like I do I don't want you to have a chance to fucking compete hell No, then it'll never be competitive Why because it's it man is super weak and league is and what salary cap Weekend league has become is who can invest the most time or who can invest the most money But what what what this is and this is where I ask you what competitive thing in the fucking world is different than that Give me something where you don't have to spend money and you don't have to spend time and you could still be Top in the field at I mean, what's what if I'm born golf six foot nine No, I mean what okay your boy six foot nine. Do you not have to play basketball? Do you not have to invest? I got a hell of a head start. Oh, but I'm saying but do you still have to invest time? There's plenty of six nine motherfuckers out here a kg, right? Okay, it's not no, I'm gonna take your example. I'm gonna take your example. Okay golf I'm gonna take your example The The five foot eleven hundred sixty pound kid he can invest as much time Uh More than anybody. Is he ever gonna make it to the league? Possibly. Absolutely. Possibly. Yeah, probably not. Okay. Probably not Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Probably not. No, not at all. Yeah, okay so But the kid that plays mad in 24 seven is now Competing, okay. Yes, that's a big commitment. Okay. Now if you take his team away from him Is he able to compete? Probably not So my point is It's not about me versus you. It's it's not chess It's not even checkers anymore It's who's spending the most time who has the better team is going to win a majority of their games If you have the better team than me And and we're equal players you will win. I disagree. Oh if you're equal players if we're equal players Okay Now my point is do you think the players that win belts are the people that spend the most money on man? No, okay Explain it then So do you think skimbo spends more money than anybody else in man? But what i'm saying is what i'm saying is i i i feel like i could Not saying that i'm i'm on that level whatsoever, but am i Can i compete with that level of player? Yes But the time that it would take for me to be able to compete with them I don't have it. I don't want to spend that much time But i still want to i still want to be able to pick up the game and still be able to compete with somebody How can you expect that? I mean, that's why that's what i'm saying It's really like saying, bro. I want to play golf I want to compete with the best players at my club or at my you know my i'm going to play checkers Or chess for that matter. Everybody knows how to play chess. So let's play chess No, i don't want to pick it up and have to have spent the last six months getting my team to this point to be able to Compete what but it would be the same thing if it was regs If you say you didn't even it was regs. It was a sort of seaford. That's a great. It's a seaford tournament, right? Yeah, you got skimbo you got kiv play all day or study the game like nobody else They really do right they know the game way more than i know the game, right? Yep, yep So you think you no money is no money involved right think i can i can pick the game of casually and fucking compete With guys that put their whole time and energy and that's the guy i don't feel like i'm in that situation I wouldn't be a casual player Well, what would you be more invested because it doesn't require the time and the money commitment to compete Okay, so you would be more invested you would spend more time playing the game When you didn't have to spend more time playing i don't understand so you don't want to spend time playing the game But if it was free i was i feel like right now i feel like we're the games at we're meds at right now Every saturday or sunday that goes by that i don't play med all flipping day long I'm now falling behind it's not because somebody got better at the game than me Okay, it's because my team isn't up to par now, but see i think it's both I think it's absolutely if you don't play the game you will fall off a med simple and plain I really think that and it's just like it's just like basketball Like if you got you know somebody that's not in the gym all day and wants to show up in the court Now the guy that's been in the gym all week getting shots up. He's gonna perform better Do you do disagreement that somebody that puts that much work in that somebody's guys do that win belts It's not all about spending your situation with regs. I buy into that Not with weekend league not with salary cap But but weekend league it's a way to play the game that you're playing anyway 25 games of mad in four days is it's now you got to play mad It's not something casual, but but it's not OD. Do you know what I mean? It's like in between like if you really enjoy playing mad you should be able to play five games a day Right. Am I wrong about that? Yeah And you have to understand that we are all this shit compared to most of these kids Exactly And so that that that's for me is why it's been so hard to still keep up with okay And that's what you have to realize the shit is not for you It's not for people with jobs. It's not for people with families. It's not for people with careers It's not and that's okay Because you know who it's for the pro fucking man players So so we're saying so we're saying in order to be a pro madden player You have to basically Every waking hour Pretty much It's on extent It is that's where it's at right now. This would be yes. That is how every esport is Am I wrong? If it were on regs, we're talking we're talking it's a completely different conversation fortnite is regs Everybody has an equal playing field. It is skill based. It is that person getting more jump shots in there It's All right, here's What seller cabin what mutt is is oh, hey, I'm playing this. I'm getting my coins now to use your basketball analogy I'm not able to dunk on a 10 foot hoop But but but but now my my hoops eight foot. I see I don't think my hoops seven foot honestly don't think it's that bad Yeah, it is. I don't think oh my god. Yes. I I could take listen I I could take you give me $500 right right now from fucking scratch you give me $500 And I'll be able to compete with any salary cap team out there 500 bucks that might be a lot And there's nobody that would beat me that's actually just because the team is better I mean that's not a lot It is a lot and it's more than what it should be. Oh, yeah, I mean we we got to get past that point Where it's at today $500. There's not a lot of money to have a competitive team Yeah, I'm just saying but this is my point. Whatever I need. I don't know if it's 200 300 whatever it may be I can get that and I can compete because I'm that good at the game And I can put that much time into the game to where I can compete and I won't lose a salary cap game Because my team is not good enough Straight mutt. Oh hell. Yeah, you will get your ass beat and weekend league You will run into some bum ass players that are beating you because their team is OD But that being said even with a salary cap team if you're a decent enough player You should be able to win 20 games on weekend league and get your 400k every weekend league You know what I'm saying? That's pretty much how I feel about it and As far as like people complain it because Vilma does the same same shit all the time It costs money to play mutt first of all if you play as you start at the beginning of the year Like you said even if you don't play every weekend you play every third weekend By this time of the year your team is halfway decent You'll have a coach man. You'll have all these fucking tokens right all this shit. Okay. All right this time of year right now What what tournament? I guess the last year last year so for 32 spots I just spent all that time to try to get to the top. Well, you have to like when the seller camp mode was relevant and where it was whatever You don't have that runway to build up this team Yeah, but so you gotta spend money. Oh At the same time and you talk about the beginning of the year Yeah, but at the same time the the drastic difference in team is not that big You know what I'm saying if you spend $200 the first week and buy two bundles Your team will be pretty decent compared to everybody else. Do you agree with that? That's what I'm saying But now if you try to start right now That's how they'll be trying to do like you mean I want to start building team now. You're like fuck. This is too hard Right, you know saying but if you start early in the year You don't need to spend buku bucks to compete because everybody's team is pretty shitty early in the year And that's why I think the EA model of how they're going about these things is broken because you only have so much of a runway in which A smart intelligent person like you just highlighted beginning of the year is when I'm going to spend my money At the end of the year it's a waste of money. I will never catch up. I cannot catch up to compete I'm not weekend league unless I played from day one Yeah, but and ultimately we had to step back and realize that we are here because we like playing mad Like I play mad you were mad when it was fucking nothing. Oh, yeah And I would still play the game if it was for nothing. I would too Yeah, and I would hop on the game right now if I felt like I could hop in a game and compete with somebody I don't have the team to compete so I don't play mad, but that's your fault That's your fault Because one you don't like the game as much as you like playing fortnight or whatever you may do in your life that that I don't I would rather do this than play mad And that's where that's ultimately where the problem is because we always play mad because it's fun Fuck the competing we played that shit. I played mad more when this shit was for nothing playing you playing to leave playing Vilma I don't play Vilma more than anybody my whole life and that was never for nothing But shit talking that's it right right So at the end of the day it's like you pretty much do this shit just because it's fun. You know what I'm saying? That's that's pretty much That's pretty much where the disconnect is if you're not having fun Of course, it's gonna suck and it's gonna seem like a chore It's gonna seem like you're saying i'm spending my money for something that's not paying me back But ultimately mad I And we have to get old like mad is going to cost money that they're not going anywhere from this much shit That's just not going anywhere So if you want to compete in mad you want to go ahead and try to make these stages You got to invest your time and your money in your team just like you have to invest your time And your money into anything else that you compete in in this entire world There's nothing you can compete in without spending time and money period But I just need one example that doesn't take time or money or mostly both to compete in I get where you're going with it, but it's it's not the same thing. Why not because so so so hear me out If let's just go back to your first week your first month of the game that comes out, right? Yeah, we all got the same playing field the guy that spends two thousand dollars in that first couple months I don't have a shot at beating him. I don't spend money if I don't spend money. I do not have a shot. I do not have a shot That's a lot the average player doesn't have a shot The average player and that's what separates the average fucking player from a mad and fucking pro There you go. All right, but hold on give a man pro that team And you all right give skimbo the two thousand dollar team give you the The bullshit team that you're grinding for for that first couple of weeks. You don't have a shot first step And this is what I say. I'm a man, bro. What the fuck am I look like letting somebody else spend that money? I'm gonna invest my day itself because I can win with this shit If I'm good enough to win if I'm good at the compete. Why the fuck would I not invest in my team? That's my question to you if I'm dead that W I'm gonna have to make x y and z live event. I know this going into the year I already know I'm good enough in man. I already know I'm a top 20 man player every single year You you are. Yeah, exactly. So this one saying if I know that you damn fucking right when I download the game The first thing I'm doing is buying a bundle. You are. Yes, exactly. That's why madden This is something that if you're a pro, it's fucking good for you. Do you understand how many pros are there? How many pros are there? 40 30 40 30 maybe let's just say it's good. I want these those same guys playing every fucking year That's the skill gap can't the skill gap. They say not there the same 30 40 people That keep winning because they're that fucking good at the game. I don't I don't I disagree. I disagree Wow I disagree because because I and it comes from a different side of things I am not able to put in the time To have that team. That's why you're not a mad pro But why should that keep me from being a mad bro because what profession? Can you be the top at and not invest your timing? Talk to me. Which one chat gave me one thing that you can compete in and not invest your timing. Here's the he's he's going here with this He doesn't even believe what the hell he said. I believe it before hardly. There's nothing though There was nothing out there that you can play and compete in and not spend your money on or your time There's What did you compete in your life? What what was your kid's competition? You was a kicker in high school. How much time did you Kick in the football? How much time did you spend kicking? Not much. I remember when you played db and y receiver Yeah, would you put some timing on that right? I mean, I'm sure for practice exactly because because why because you wanted to compete Right, right, right and at some point you ran into some guy that was Practicing a little bit more but you want to know what happened when I went out in the field It was me versus the guy across from me. Okay. It wasn't oh, I spent a couple more This win today I mean, I see I don't think it's like that that says it is what it's like Okay, but it's kind of like okay. He can buy all the cleats and make them run a little faster Right. It's kind of like that. He can buy gold cleats. He got point speed point of speed, right? That's kind of like but okay. He got the gold cleats. He got the gold gloves He catch the ball better you gotta cover him, right? But if you know, you're good enough to cover him if you buy the gold cleats and the gold gloves You would buy that shit because then you can cover him, right? No, no, you're reaching you're reaching at the same time Even if he has the gold gloves and the gold hat, you're good enough You're cat in the corner. You're good enough to fucking cover anybody even if they have to come right and the gold right So that's pretty much. I mean, dude, I just feel like man You gotta invest your time or you have to invest your money And if you don't have the time to invest or you don't have the money Let me ask you this let me ask you this and for somebody like me who has both the time and the money to invest Yes, I wanted that way because I want to say if I want to put my heart into this game I'm going to win money because I'm good enough and I'm invested enough Why should somebody like me that's good enough invested enough not be able to win money consistently from man? What is the problem with that? Okay If you had to pick one Which one would you say should be weighted more heavily with being successful at the game? I think all the time is weighted more Absolutely because you have to get good at the game You can just buy your team and not be good at the game But if you're you're better off with it with a no money spent team investing your time getting good at the game They're not playing the game a lot and having the best team. That's how I feel about it Yeah, so you want it so you think it's okay year after year that you have to now spend you you have to I mean, it's not an option. It's not an option that you have to spend thousands of dollars Or risk buying coins on you know, wherever you go buy coins and getting caught by EA Which then is still like you're still having to invest a decent amount of coin in that And then to just get ripped from you because you violated the terms of service. Yeah, that's that's that's a risky path so Year after year you want to have to spend thousands of dollars to play and compete in a game that you used to be able to Enjoy and compete in for nothing I'm not agreeing with that at all other than your time But no, no, I think I think it sucks. I think ultimately. Yeah, it's pretty shitty. Yeah, but Me we have to realize that that's not going nowhere No matter how much we complain about it mutt's not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere It's their cash cow. They it is not going to go anywhere, but I think The competitive landscape in man if it continues this way You're gonna stick it out for a little while there's gonna come a point in time where you're like Jesus This isn't worth the time and the money that is required to still enjoy this hobby That's why you're gonna walk away from the game more so than you just don't enjoy the game anymore I mean, I think where I'm at right now. I'm never want to walk away from the game But I think It's only the only way you could ever complain is if random people just start popping up all over winning that hasn't happened You know as much as we talk about skill gap show me where the random fucking people are winning That's what I want to ask show me where the random kids are beating good players because of their team Show me where the randoms are making runs and tournaments because the game sucks as much people complain about skill gap and how it caters to Bums show me these bums. Give me an example That's what I asked. I asked chat. I asked you too. I asked you give me one example somebody I'm saying As somebody that that is a bum that the game caters to and only wins because the team is better That's pretty much what I'm asking. I want that example But but the problem is that everybody that you see in these tournaments It's they're good at the game. They're good at the game Why because they invest a lot of time and they play they invest a lot of time and they've been playing this for Decades, so that they've been at at the at the pinnacle for some time Now they have to to do that. They have to spend money There is no way or a shitload of time grinding solos No one no one plays solos can't No one plays solos or playing we can leave playing seasons. Do you even playing draft champions? If you go 6-0, that's a cool 120k or something right there playing draft champions If you're good enough at the game if you are an elite man player, you can make coins just playing the game period Why is that? I'm fed. I just don't understand how you don't understand that I'm saying You can you can make coins and the game and the the layout is completely catered to full-time madden players It come like 100 and honestly what esport is not catered is not more beneficial to be full-time playing the game I want is it there's not somebody that goes to work all fucking day 9 to 5 that comes home and play call duty and is the best call duty player in the world Do you think that's the case? No. Do you think that's the case for fortnight? Do you think fucking tea fool goes and works all day and it comes home and busts people's ass in fortnight? No, why are you doing so fucking tough because they spend their life on the game, right? Yeah, that's how madness and what is wrong with that? I'll ask you There's nothing wrong with okay. There's nothing wrong with that, but I think to appeal to a broader audience and to Keep uh the longevity of the game is dead The game is dead. It is as far as I mean What I'm saying is due to this new model of of mutt and cellar cap and where you're just requiring a lot of time Or a lot of money to play and be able to compete All I want to do when I pick up my madden controller is know that I have a fair chance Based on me versus you Not shit. I didn't spend all fucking weekend. I didn't spend a lot of money Be a race player like boom That's not saying be boom. Nobody plays rags Villaman wins money on rags. What ladder? What ladder can I qualify in rags? I will tell you there isn't one they have completely been a disservice for there not being a race ladder Yeah draft champions is pretty much free You know what I'm saying? If the draft champions is pretty much free. That's why that ladder is always fun You know without a top four. I think draft champions is the best mode I this year I would I would probably agree draft champions is the best mode However, the belt is still half a belt We will just because it's the best mode the salary cap belt is still one belt the draft champions belt is half a belt Unless are we making a ruling that draft champions belt this year is one belt is a full belt I think draft champions this year is a full belt chat years past. I agree with you Beast mo was half a belt beast mo is a half belt What about mo when he ran every play the first draft champ? I think mo get half a boat because one he got the qualified to get there He got the free qualification. That's how that's how be half a boat mo is half a boat Beast mo half a boat half boat A club clubs don't count as belts right no clubs count the belt counts like the live event like to make it to win I want my club. That's not necessarily a lot of it. That's what I'm talking about if you win your club. That's not Like are we counting that as? If you win your club, I think that means I made a lot of it All right, but it's not a belt No, the belt still count like ghost belt even though he beat only be problem That was only person he beat he kind of he'd be saffa but The belt counts But like as far as live event. You mean it doesn't I don't really know how we didn't make a ruling on that So we'll see I was somebody that has to make a ruling on that eventually When the clubbell is definitely about because pop and beat a lot of good people on that run You know what I mean? Yeah, there's a lot of guys that didn't have to play anybody that so when they're belt Yeah, it's a winner club. Absolutely. I'm not talking about winning the club I'm talking about after that when pop and winning five six games in a row. Yeah, that counts. Oh, that counts. That counts. Yeah But when your club doesn't count Yeah, that's no when your club is a live event if you win the club that he was alive man Even though it's top 32 most live events is top 16. So What do you think so you think you have to be in the top It's a little it's a it means something but it's watered down a little bit. Just a touch. I agree I don't like bragging about winning the club. That's why for me when Spoda was snapping last week Yeah, my bro, you're not getting cool points for winning an apples club. That's really you won't even like put that on you I'm saying right, right, right, right. I think and they say there's a lot of luck involved in Madden, right? Man lucky single sisters all the time. He's saying a chat right now. Yes, lucky Madden is luck. Now, would you say there's any other games that involve luck? Like I feel like every video game to an extent is kind of lucky is it not You say fortnight. I mean, I don't really play any other games. Let's say fortnight, right? Fortnight, okay? We both landed tilted. Yeah, I'm on top of one, but I get a bandage. You know, you get a purple shotgun Is that not lucky? That that it that is lucky and fortunately, however, provided we both got the same weapon I do not believe at that point then A person can luckily beat the other. I Guess there's a little bit involved in you know a headshot, you know Maybe you were four pixels left and it counted as 196 and the other guy put it right on the button and it was 200 That's a little lucky, but there were still skill to put it in that spot wait for sure, but I personally think skill fortnight is like At close to Gears of War as far as I thought Gears of War as far as shooting game If someone was really tough at Gears of War, you couldn't fuck with it. Yeah, like Gears of War. That's what fortnight is Yes, that's how for that's how I feel now and pretty much everybody in the world is better than me And if I weren't in somebody I lose. Yeah, they see me I lose and call duty is different, but I feel like call duty anybody can kill anybody Yeah, you know what I mean like you hide somewhere even a fortnight You can't really be high somewhere pop out on somebody unless you're like behind the door with a shotgun Right. So fortnight is definitely and I think that's why it's so successful is that there is such a And I think there's a huge skill gap in madden the difference between madden and fortnight is this is that you watch all these pros play A bunch of bums all fucking day, right and there's joy There's intrigue and watching ninja fuck up a bunch of kids cuz it's funny and you like damn He's tough as shit I could go play head-to-head on man and play regular as people right and blow them the fuck out And there was as many people playing fortnight as the word madden the cream would still rise at the top And I would blow people to fuck out just like ninja kills people trap some makes them look stupid all the time Right, yeah, and I think I think just like there's no skill They say there's no skill gap in madden when you get to those top fortnight guys I feel like they're all pretty similar You know what I mean? Whereas just like man how to top man guys are all pretty similar anybody can win and when you go to The ball in the field that's how I feel about fortnight am I wrong in saying that There's just Madden you when you get to that level How often how often when you get to that level and we watch these games in these tournaments Do we walk away thinking that player a beat player B or player B beat player a Or are we more often saying player a got cheated player a fumble player B didn't player B Caught it on three guys player a didn't like it gets to that level and then it that's why Yes skill gap the the pro is gonna beat up on the bum every single time. Yes But when you get to that competitive level there isn't enough skill gap there to separate people You know what I mean, I think there is good here's the deal It like these tournaments if you ran that tournament ten times would you have The same maybe three or four players Consistently place in the top or would it be pretty randomized? It would be right especially like like the clubs for examples 32 people It would probably be a different finish every single time every single time And I feel the same way for fortnight if you try to top 32 players in the world and play solo Sure, sure, but would there be like probably a core four or six that were well, I think I think man Absolutely, it could be like that. You know me. I haven't seen it yet. You know, I feel like Fortnight could be the same way. Okay. Now damn. I didn't get the rotation in the circle Just like damn. I didn't get that catch on the sideline Bang now I'm a die or bang now I'm a lose is all is always some uncontrollable thing And honestly as much as will you hate that as a man player and people want to blame you That's from a the naked eye from the regular person that watches mad That's the shit that makes you watch. That's the shit that makes this shit entertaining That's what makes football entertaining and there's some disconnect and what makes football entertaining and what we want mad Because the random shit in football is what makes it exciting, you know That's what makes you watch the game essentially and that's what makes football better than pretty much any other sport a Macular reception ball bouncing all over place like you said Edelman's one hand fucking catch the same begin That's the exciting shit in football, you know, that's that's why people watch You know and Madden we don't want none of that but at the same time we want a million people to watch You know, it's like where is the disconnect because we were watching to see who's gonna fumble Who's gonna make a crazy-ass play who's gonna break a sack? Who's gonna break a tackle? Who's gonna get your interception? You know what? That's what you want to see What do you want? We don't want to see somebody doing 10 flat routes for six yards every single fucking time and scoring Like honestly really there has to be some type of randomness in football Honestly, why does it have to be random though? Because it's why does it have to be random? Why can't they put mechanics in the game in which I as the user Outperformed whatever I tried to do in that situation Why can't I throw like like tick tick tick rocket catching or strafe catching back in the day, right? Yeah It was OP but what if there was a mechanic in which it was a user versus user that determined that outcome versus I Do it and me as I'm in a perfect position to make a play as a defender But you know what? I he got an animation. I am completely out of control of what's gonna happen here Why does it have to be that way? I mean Honestly, the thing with rocket catch was I love was that you could that's one way you could As much as we talk about being bums the rocket catch was a way you could blow somebody out by a hundred points Between rocket blitz and then rocket gets in a nano blitz and you could blow out bazooka Joe by a hundred points Like your wife could come in here and and I the if we play bad The most if we just play a four-minute quarter game at against your wife. I might win 42 to zero, right? But between the back of the day with nano blitzes and rocket gets it is 200 to zero Exactly exactly and you're right that the rocket catch all the stuff like that that was user involved really they and that's them Essentially wanting everybody to be able to compete your your bazooka Joe ass that want to pick up the controller every corner That's why they that's the people they want to compete They make the game easier because when the game is easier more people will play it. Okay, so now all right, so You started out saying that Madden has skill gap So now we're coming full circle now. We're saying Madden doesn't know not at all man has a huge skill Get but at the same time when you go down to the players that bitch a lot about men They're always posting clips about Madden and a casual fucking players. Hell. No, there's no skill gap Oh, you guys are the same So if you're an average ass fucking player But up I'm talking my point is when you get as good as I am or as good as the top 50 players in the world There's a huge skill gap, but the bazooka Joe Kent that wants to pick up his controller at once a month Yes, there's no fucking skill gap You're gonna lose so a level bazooka Kent over and over like I don't mind losing if I feel like that player was Better than me But when he catches like when I'm in a hell game and it's the tie ball game and it comes down to inside Two minutes and you know, what whatever the situation is and he throws chucks it up and there's three dudes So I clicked on I had no control of that player, that's not skill gap, right Yeah, but that's that's the game now and ultimately for the game to grow. That's not still okay There's a huge skill gap like first of all in that situation when you're that far behind You always got a slot and personally he should he should he should yeah But at the end of the day that person that play you did have a terrible matchup on the field Right, it was terrible matchup. Can we say yes, it was a terrible man paper. Sure. Yes But I mean he was closer than he should have been but at the end of the day when you get your linebacker Moss by one of the best receivers in the mode I mean, what did you want that to happen in real life? Like if you were a Colts fan and they put a linebacker on see why when you expect see why how to make a play listen We're getting way too in the weeds with this specific example For what occurred on the play that we are referencing. I Don't believe I had a bad play call if the if the receiver would have run any other route in that situation Yes, that linebacker should get roasted But when I'm have my linebacker off the ball inside and you throw just a snap streak And he's literally standing in the circle where the ball is gonna land And I can't make a play because that's an eight ninety two versus an eighty six. I mean come on I mean our thing doesn't go get mad There was a bigger skill gap ten years ago when the user mattered huge bigger skill gap back in the day But there still is a skill gap. That's why the same people keep wanting it And like you said these same people at these mutt. They're not the players that spend the most money I would probably tell you they probably play the game more than anybody and as they should it's what they want to do You know, I still want you challenge you to come up with some profession where you don't have to invest your time Your money is still be is still be top-level elite. I have no problem spending time or money But but what I have a problem with is that It's it requires too much of it That that's where I'm at with it to be good and competitive and men it requires way too much time to do that Okay, but what I Just I just can't think of a professional. You can't say that about Let me ask you how many hours how many hours a week if you're being honest with yourself Do you think the average? competitive madden player Spends playing the game not not like not like tops like like Top 200 players How much how many how many hours a week do you think there's time? I don't know. I'd say Four or five hours a day four or five hours a day. That's a lot of time I mean, it's a lot of time. It's like what it's like what? Okay, that's what they do with the problem is the problem is Let's say you miss a Saturday and a Sunday You went out and you went on a little vacation or you went to go see some family and then next weekend Something else comes up and you're going to watch a volleyball tournament all weekend or whatever baby And there's a few weekends that go by I am now I might have still been playing You know throughout the week, maybe I probably logged that five hour a day. I agree But my team is now so far behind so when I'm playing when I do come back I cannot compete with those players It's not so far behind and I'll tell you I haven't been on a game in a week And I won't be on a game in a week and the one thing about that's good about it. Michael Vick came out, right? Well, my if I was playing the game Michael Vick came out I'll spend $200 get Michael Vick now two weeks later. I'm hopping back on the game I go big one be 400k So I can spend $20 get Michael Vick that is a positive about the situation, but This is and that's like any other professional like if we're golfers, right? And you take a couple weeks off, you know saying and now I'm keep playing I keep playing I'm gonna be that much better than you because you because you acquired a skill. You didn't acquire a Higher rated player, but I think I think the skill in a game matters more than a player 1,000 percent No, I will never lose to somebody because that team is better than mine one That is that we can prove this out You you are way better at men than than I am okay thousand percent if you had an all-goal team and I got an all Red team elite team. Oh, what I'm winning that game. Yes. I am. It's not yes. I am I just don't I Just I just don't think it matters as much as you guys do and I think the players like you that can be decent in the game But choose not to put the time I think way too many people Use that as an excuse and use that as the reason why they no longer compete I think a lot of the old heads in the community use that as a cool as excuse because they realize them I'm not as good as I used to be then fuck this much shit as corny You know what I mean, and I think way too many people use that as an excuse when in actuality It's really not that big a deal if you play man, and you want to play man. You can compete Here's your question for you. If it went back to regs is the competitive mode Do you think we would have new faces or the same faces they have race We have a race tournament where you could show up at the door and play who won So hold on we didn't have an online deal. We didn't have a show open play so so again somebody has to get to the event Okay, if you had a money to get to a fucking event again, I'm not everybody does Okay, well, then they're not a fucking man player. God bless your heart If you don't had a money if you want to be a man player and you don't have money to go to Vegas Sell your fucking Xbox and pay your rent. That's pretty much how I feel you're not gonna be a pro man player Sell that fucking dream, dude, or if you're that good go play 10 games on saloon win $200 buck a little a spirit fight boom seriously like That's that's all right. All right. So if we went to like a regs Ladder online, it would be awesome. They definitely should have a regs ladder is injustice. Do you think there'd be new faces? Are the same absolutely not it will be the same. It'd be the same face. Absolutely. I disagree how I think there'd be there'd be a lot of new faces Who you'd have Vilma you'd have see who you'd have who can't play a race It means this team because he needs to see. Oh, okay number four they really should have a raise leaderboard and They don't do it because one they want to sell their cards. What isn't going nowhere, you know And if you want to be a man player, I disagree. I disagree. I is not going. I think it has a shelf life I think it doesn't I think in five years. It'll be a totally different model I and this is where I'll tell you why it's because they try to employ this type of model whatever game that comes out and Legally, they can't do it because there's so many laws now about what they can sell what they can't sell that And the mutt situation was grandfathered in before these these laws came about So they can get away with a lot more bullshit on mutt than they can on their Star Wars game Then they can on whatever games they put out now that they're trying to push this pay-to-play type thing or pay for, you know Microtransactions, but mutt they can still do it and what are they going to do while they can still do it milk the shit out Of it as much as they can and they were continue to milk the hell out of it So if you want to compete in men and you want to you know be a pro man player This is something you want you have to invest in the shit and I tell them But it should all the time that like well if you want to if you're X amount best player I'm the I'm good this year blah blah blah invest in the game put your time in it and It drives me crazy that someone because them was good at the game and if he would invest the time He'd be right there. He could have like I said, he lost one game to get the club He could have he could win so much more if he invested more time into mutt and the draft champions and everything like that If he really practices craft and really put his heart into it and grind this shit, you know That's just played the regs for C4's and fucking player lounge money, you know And that's what me and so if you want to win and you want to compete this shit You have to embrace mutt, you know the attitude of this sucks because I got to pay for my team No one that's winning fucking man's armist has that mentality. Do you agree with that? Nobody says this sucks. I'm gonna pay for my team blows in blah blah. Nobody winning has that shit period They're doing what they have to do. They're buying coins. They're grinding weekend league whatever may be They're gonna have a good enough team and they're gonna compete Period if you use as an excuse, it will always be an excuse period I'm different to y'all. I don't know. I know I'm good enough at the game I know first of all, I was playing mutt before it was even qualifying more because the shit's actually It really it really was cool it has gotten ridiculous It has getting overboard when they start out of players with 82 speeds So you have to keep buying a player they really maximize the amount of money you have to spend Where man's 17 or man's 16 when para man played the whole year because he had 97 speed. It was a lot better, but um Honestly definitely think It's really you got to embrace mutt that's pretty much how it is I mean, it's not going anywhere if you want to play man, you got to play mutt if you want to play regs God bless your heart your limit is going to be money games on players now Just little players lounge hit that link in my chat players lounge go ahead and um See four tournaments. That's that's your ceiling. There's one regs tournament a year skimbo one both of them So tell me where the skill gaps going to come out when people can play regs online That's I just want to see who didn't who the new face from regs is going to be I think there'd be more people in the mix. I don't think so at all Oh Alright, how we going out here? Um Where we at? Yeah, we've been here a long time We started rapping That's what it's about. This is Kent. He used to be a man player. Now. He's a fortnight player Now he's a pro foot pro foot for me. Are we going to get some represent me to games or something? Yeah, we don't stream up. We don't stream up. Can we get some last chance grind? I Don't have the team or I'll tell you Anybody want to donate players? No, we won't ask for donations on the strength. This is a legitimate man I'm saying we don't come in here and ask for their mention. Oh my god The wife 614 is not subbed or is not sorted up. This is crazy. I gifted her so not too long Oh my gosh, the wife 614 That she has a picture and everything. Oh my god Last up the the new podcast is already on YouTube. I have to just make it public I will do that when I get back to my um my home way from home The four went to the Niners, but Kent is yeah, hold on. There's I want to address something in the chat I'm sorry. I've kind of typed about this This Ohio man 614 It's kind of distressed. I'm I'm mad and six where is this Ohio? Yeah, why is he not at the podcast right now? All right, what's up? Where are you at? We're here. Yeah, we're in New Albany. Where are you at? What's the move? I think he's out in Reynoldsburg if it's the kid that I think I played Some time ago. Reynoldsburg. Is he the best man player in Ohio? Well most of us man player in Ohio Mmm, who else is in Ohio? Chat checking who's the best man player in Ohio? And I guess you got to get it to Moe, but Me and Moe, we haven't played Moe's better than you. You haven't played. We haven't played So if you watch him real extra, that's right. Where's that? Uh, that's north of here. North? So he's like in between here. Yeah, he's like 15 minutes down the street Wow, Ohio man. He's not real. Yeah, he's not real. So if I give you my team, what's gonna be your record? How many games am I playing? You can just play seasons Just head to head Last chance qualifier you're not gonna do good. You don't think I'm getting top 32? Fuck no Plus I'm gonna play on my team when I get back in town in a week I'm on vacation and I will be back in town in a week. I'm mad. I'm not playing last chance qualifier But Clef has got his shit set up. He will be ready to stream And I think once I get back we're gonna do 24 hour stream between me and Clef We're just gonna alternate for like a whole week. So that way you guys always have last chance qualifying action to watch 24-7 for about a week straight. We're just gonna alternate 12 hour shifts bang bang bang bang bang So need a game and we'll always be presenting a last chance qualifier stream That is coming up next week and Kent will have the pretty much the um fortnight streams. Yeah, after between six and eight thirty Six and eight thirty Easter standard time. Oh my and less unless the wife six one four has So it's definitely gonna be something we do but maybe can we play mad next year Will you invest the mad next year invest your time and your energy early in the year? We'll see how the game's playing See how the game's playing all the games boy. Okay I will sign see when he's ready to give me his address so I can send him some stuff and stuff like that You know, but but we'll see see who is in rare form today. I enjoyed his stream very much on YouTube You I'll get check them out on YouTube amazing. What's up? Like I said, you to please hit the comment button or comment on if you think Kent did good on the podcast Should he be a fixture on the podcast going forward, you know We're looking for some more guest appearances from here on out So he definitely is one of the guys that uses but is an excuse to why he's not good anymore men And I want you guys to not have that same attitude man If you're gonna compete man You got to take it for what it is and use the situation to the best of his ability man You can't use an excuse it will hold you back any excuse you use in life will hold you back So like I said comment on how you guys think Kent did and if buying a team really matters that much in man or not Also hit the like button subscribe. This was need a podcast episode 21. We did this for 21 weeks I appreciate all you guys coming by man without your support. We really can't do much You guys are the engine that turns the or what the wheel that turns the engine or the gear that turns the engine Yeah, he was stealing still the sky. So Like like a Jordan, what would you say? Ceilings the roof the ceiling is the roof the ceiling is the ceiling is the ceiling is the ceiling Yeah, what do you mean? But anyway? Picture you guys come by hit the like button subscribe. I'm out of Kent. You want any last words for the people? This is your chance man. I got no like 20 people watching you as well But I'll tune in 6 to 8 30 weekdays Fortnite pro and kens kens links will be below in the description You want to check out some shitty fortnight play? And some average jokes it will definitely be a link to below so you can go ahead and hit that But I appreciate y'all come by please hit the like button