 you've got an agenda here and of course of course the materials that are being prepared for you is related to that of course there are four things on the agenda that we needed to at least talk about and I sort of envision us getting back together again after you get the materials getting back together again to dig deeper in one or two of these issues of course the first issue of course was the Comprehensive Columbia Health Initiative overview the second of course was the develop a policy as it relates to advisory committee on equity you got and of course this gives you some bedtime reading because we will need to get together again to sort of dig again dig deep into the issues of some of this the third issue of course was a request I think how it sort of generated this request at our last meeting at our last council meeting referencing city staff and who makes who makes that call for requests from the staff and of course this last item number four our clean our clean Columbia clean and I think what I'm gonna do I wanted Clint to be here with us today because a part of that presentation water and a part of it includes Robert I wanted to make sure that we could at least start moving on this particular issue the other three issues as I envision our time together is to look at the material we will digest some of what we have in the materials that you have and that we said another time for us to dig deeper now have we set a meeting for our next I want to do this as quickly as possible just to make sure that we can get things before council now that does not interfere with anything yes I know we okay okay let's let's move forward I want to talk a little bit about our Columbia Health Initiative overview I have Pam with us today Ashley is in the background she's using her computer this is an issue that we started talking about last year prior to the electing we had an old council our previous council that was old this this conversation sort of sort of came out of conversations that I was deeply concerned about and that was the health disparities as you know in two nine two oh three we have the highest number of amputations heart disease diabetes hypertension in two nine two oh three initially what we talked about was the possibility of forming and sort of selecting a health officer after having that conversation with with members of the committee it was not to our it was not where we needed to be at this point instead of the instead of the health department model we wanted to sort of expand this thing and make it more palatable use of friendly within the community so we looked at a community model a community model that was shaped and formed out of a model out of New Orleans that right okay and we wanted to we wanted we really wanted to speed up this process but several things sort of held us back we knew that it was very very necessary that this kind of initiative be engendered within our community we have full partner with each other so instead of that instead of that health department model it became a community partnering with other partners that was more palatable yes sir so as Reverend McDowell stated we started out with the concept of having a chief health officer and realized which we knew all along that there's a lot of partners out there in the community that provide health related services and do health research and and and do things related to health care and being healthy in the community so the recommendation was made to like Reverend McDowell said use the community health model you'll see in your packets under tab number one there's a some bullets about the general how we kind of got started and kicked it off and the two models that were explored and the model that we seem to get the most consensus was the healthy BR which was out of Baton Rouge Louisiana and they use a board of commissioners who work together to promote health within their community and those board members consist of people who are working at hospitals universities other public health organizations that provide assistance so we know that our community has a lot of those those partners out there and so you'll see in your packet there's some notes from an October 29th meeting and also some notes from the September 7th meeting that talk about the two models and that talk about how to move forward the committee kind of left it where they were exploring the concept of having a board and committee counsel to appoint those members of the board and committees from our partners University the hospitals we have in our community and other health related organizations and then the board would be formed and then the board would decide on the vision and the deliverables for this community health initiative and so that's kind of where we left it back in October of last year Reverend McDowell wanted to revisit it once we had a new council to see you know what were some input from the new council members that's kind of where we stand with with this community health initiative but it does like I said them there are two doc several documents in your handout that cover the models what we researched and then where we stand now well leave anything out no I think you got I think he I think he did head on one of the issues of course one one of the concerns of course was the reason we didn't finished finish our work in terms of what was the next steps is that we ran into something called elections and campaigns and but we wanted to make sure and ensure that this issue was one was going to be one of those issues but that would remain on the surface and not be swept under the rug or placed in a bushel or under a bushel so what I'd like to do what I'd like for other members of this committee to do is to peruse the document we will call another meeting we have recommendations that we explored back in October and sort of presented is that right Pam that we presented I think it was October 31st what makes a difference seven days six days and that we get together again to dig deeper into this issue whether or not we want to do it I really preferably like to see us do something like that there are there are medical issues in all of our communities particularly and because this is not just a national concern as it relates to amputation but amputation in 293 is 29203 is the highest statewide citywide and I have not looked at the national numbers for that but all three of those hurtful and harmful diseases are pivotable in 29203 this board will sort of give us some idea comprehensively how we partner together so in your studies and in your in your study and of course in your perusal of these materials that we get together again and dig deeper into whether or not we really want to do this thing I really like to see us do it that's just one vote go in it any question Joe please yes I have one question but one of the things that we talked about and wanted to make sure we included was where the hospitals were how those persons relate to this committee from the other part of the question but I think it's I think right on the surface we talked about participation one of the things when I say participation as you know we just broke ground on gunsaw that's over there in USC has that we've had some conversation with them about them sitting up a mobile having space in the Oaks over there for those persons who are going to be in that area I would yes sir I would think so don't you think I think that's generally some of the things that we talked about as we identified some of those persons yes sir we certainly did we did talk about and counselors talked about this prior prior counselors talked about you're not having a house hospital that's now they're been acquired so we've talked the counselors talked collectively about them being a partner but yes we talked about the health disparities how healthcare is provided the partners we have in the community and also we talked about how this committee could help guide council during any kind of health related emergency like the pandemic at the time of the pandemic happened this was a hot topic that we didn't really have anybody from a medical perspective who could kind of guide us with kind of resolutions or any kind of processes or procedures that we put in place throughout the city and so this was to help that but yes that was definitely something that we discussed because it's all inclusive I think in one of the recommendations of course was to include hospitals in the total framework of it all and I think that's what you're getting that job the total framework of it all and I think that was an important piece and council at that time said let's go forward but because of extenuating circumstances so if you would allow us to do as I've sort of mentioned if we could take this material we will set another date so we dig deeper into this okay all right I'm waiting on Clint to come Clint is with another constituent and one of the councilwoman Herbert I want him to be a part of this conversation the green we've had a conversation with Daniel relative to keep in Columbia clean absolutely having conversation with water with water and clean shelling let's look at our second our second item on the agenda and that was the this document here the age document of the equity document as you know there has been much conversation that was much conversation last year about a year and a half I would think having conversation about equity in the city of Columbia this document sort of came out of those meetings our particular task as a com as an administrative committee is to make sure and to ensure that there's that this does not be another blue ribbon committee that there's some teeth put into the document so you've got this document here that I'd really like you to peruse to read and that we do the same thing that we're going to do with the issues we just talked about that we come together again to dig into the weeds of it all have you all seen this document you've seen it yeah you ever what Joe hadn't seen it that's why I think it's very very necessary that all of us on the same sheet of paper in terms of having a document when I seen it a few weeks ago that was my first time seeing it so I'm glad you've seen it before this this is one of the committees that was established by council and special committees so in that big finder that we gave you all that has all the committees in there the ace committee is included in that so in your documents that you have in front of you it talks about the aim of the ace committee which is your first that's just like the third page and it talks about what the goals were of the ace committee you also see a list of the members of the ace committee listed here and of course this was a committee that was formed by a prior council member and so this is this is kind of where they left it was they created the committee had the members chosen other council members were able to recommend members to the ace committee and they had some of these bulleted aims or or deliverables that they wanted to try to achieve they did accomplish establishing the definition of equity which is in your binders as well that first page so that's kind of a little bit of the information that's associated with the advisory committee on equality okay I must apologize I didn't get my binder I purposely left it somewhere so it was in your binders yes sir it was in the binders I didn't see it because I did not so if let's spend a little time with that let's spend a little time with that so that when we meet again we this again that because Joe had not seen it I had not seen it until a couple of weeks ago okay okay with that yeah all right let's look now there was a concern brought to council and I think the concern was generated by councilman devolved relative to the volumous number of documents I forgot to mention something I'm sorry I'm sorry go about ace so prior prior council there is a study that was conducted and it's in your binders as well the city of Columbia and Richland and Lexington County's racial equity index summary so that's additional information to go towards number two on our agenda I didn't want to forget that that was in there okay yes ma'am oh I'm familiar with the racial equity index summary I was on that committee with councilwoman divine to develop the results of that study and I'd like to see us explore potentially since equity affects many different groups of people perhaps we look at broadening the ace community to include racially diverse people with different sexual orientations to come together and deal with issues of equality and equity because I I think my biggest my biggest worry is that I want to be sure that all groups that may have felt marginalized are included in the process of getting their voices being heard and if we're going to have a committee on equality and I think it's important for us to address other groups that may also have unique challenges or perspectives that need to be at the table so as we review these materials I think it's worth considering allowing this to be a committee that really helps address both the quality and equity I think in reading the document the way that I'm reading it the original the original intent of the ace committee was to help bring up the voices of the LGBTQ community now that we have also done a racial equity impact assessment I do think it's important for us to combine all of these unique experiences for them to all be at the table to represent the diverse perspectives in our city and continue to have a a place and a space where people with unique lived experiences can share their viewpoints and perspectives on how we move our city forward so I would like to see us again brought in the scope of the equality committee and maybe the name changes to include racial and ethnic minorities as well to then be able to have a committee on both equity and equality not when you look at the current makeup of the committee you're not seeing as much diversity racially and and and ethically as you could well I think when we get into we get into the depth of this conversation we need to ensure make sure preferentially we are not we are not treating one group differently I thought when I look at equity and I look at it in terms of it would seem to me that it's all inclusive what I'm here you say that no what I what I'm suggesting is that this current committee the ACE committee perhaps be broadened to now include some of the different groups that were identified as not being included in the process so that it's not just focused on LGBTQ issues rather it's focused more broadly speaking on the diverse perspectives of groups that could have been marginalized in our in our city so I'm asking for us to consider changing the scope of this advisory committee to include some of the results of this equity study it's gonna give us enough time to sort of get at some of the hard issues hard issues being word definition absolutely and I just wanted to put that out there as we are doing our homework yes what it is we know that there is we know that that sense of diversity within our city has to be one of inclusive you know that how how narrow do we I don't like names I don't like names if we are racially diverse and we're diverse in our understanding yes sir and and as as miss as dr. Bussell stated you know the the outline of that purpose of that committee was specifically for the LBGTQ committee and so we certainly can broaden that to have a more inclusive discussion right yes sir that was we're digging to the we verification that is understanding what ratio we can expand it but yeah as she was saying the initial creation of the of the ace built specifically with the LBGT community and there's a model in Charleston that we could take a look at that allows group all groups represented from all different again marginalized or vulnerable populations that haven't had their voices in the decision-making process that could then help expand this committee so I would ask that by May 17th we all kind of regroup and I'm happy to share more information about that and see if we can our possible next meeting yeah that we are able to perhaps expand or kind of shift the focus of the current ace committee which again focuses exclusively on one population to include multiple other groups as identified by this racial equity study that can also help cultivate an inclusive Columbia I think that was something like the equity commission the racial equity commission something like that you know we can do what what makes the most sense for Columbia I think similar to us having examples from other cities as we think about the first agenda item you went over it's always nice to see what other cities have done so we can take a look at that and see if Charleston's model would work here May 17th all right any other questions item number three deals with the number three has to do with the issue that Councilman Devole wrote up and referred it to our committee request city staff by council members I think Howard Howard statement was that the information was becoming too volumous and we needed to have and develop a policy that would at least give us some process of requesting information is that right you all remember that I had requested a previous council meeting a report on Bull Street this is the report very well done Howard held up this as a report that was requested by a council member and this was not requested by a council member it was a report well like I say I was just that's kind of what I just I think mr. Devole was mistaken when he was thought this was a report requested by a council member in fact this was this was that as we're new on council we have questions and learning I would tell you all requests should always be made directly to the city manager she thinks they're cumbersome or burdensome I think we're all grown up enough to do take take the suggestion from her and I just would hate to see us have a policy of some type that says you've got to get a majority vote on city council before you can request information well I think one the issues that came up was the tracking process yes sir and how do you track that and how do you track that whether you do it formally or informally is that correct yes sir so I think the the whole emphasis was for us to kind of explore it as a staff to provide you all with some information and so we did some research and looked at some other looked at another place in your handout there's a city of Lawton they have again we're here to explore but this concept and so the city of Lawton is one of your is an extreme version of this where they actually have very request very formalized and they're listed on the agenda for council so this is a model that another city uses again this was part of us exploring this concern and so that's the that's a model we've also provided in your handouts a request form that could be used because people are handling this different ways throughout the country the model from Lawton was kind of the more formalized very structured model then we also have a request form that the city actually created it was going to use at one time a couple years ago I don't think we ever implemented it but it is a document that could be used if council wanted to move forward with this concept that people could or council members could request it through the city manager the city manager could follow this follow this request and then track the request you know based on who's asking how much time is going to be spent on it what's the fiscal impact all of that that could be a process or you know right now we do it pretty informally with the city manager and other staff members keep up with requests that are that are made again we're just staff who are charged with exploring this concern and so again we we see the extreme where it's very formalized to a form you know it's really up to council how we pursue this if we want to pursue it at all it's really up to you all whether you all want to do that we were charged with pulling together some information and well the law the law informed much more yes sir it is much more I think it was probably done doing some episode was ever going on that they created this is one that was created this is one that was created in the city was never brought to ounce of attention or anybody else's attention it was just sort of lying there dormant the form was resurrected and I wanted to wanted you guys to look at both of these forms to make sure that this is where we want to be and this is what we want to do as it relates to requesting documents one one of two things and I think I may have mentioned to y'all y'all that there was I had an issue with core services and supplemental services what does that mean how does that involve use how does that what's what are those two things I got an idea I think one has to do with solid waste but what are the other areas both supplemental but before we jump to that if you don't mind could we just go back to the larger question at hand which is whether or not there needs to be a formalization of requesting information from our staff and I would say no I think we we are not even six months into our new position I'll speak for myself I'm only say not even six months into my position there's a lot of questions I have there's a lot of context I'm asking about and there's a lot of different things I'm learning as I'm going and the flexibility that city manager Wilson has provided for me to be able to talk to her staff directly while keeping her informed is been the best way for me to understand and how to do my job well and so I'm not in favor of us formalizing any policy to do this we're dr. Broderick we're not in a position to vote yay and nay that's not right so I'm telling you my recommendation let me finish let me finish we're not in that position right now what we're going to do as I've said earlier is that we're going to dig into this dig into this some of the things that that Joe and I talk about that you and I talk about are things that are perhaps not staff related but things that could be experienced through conversation Mr. McDowell I would have to say that we can vote yes or no on this today we want to we don't think this is something that warrants additional discussion why can't why why would we want to prolong it no we can't we're not in the setting to vote yay and nay today on this now you can you could what I think what you can do polamentarily is to say no we're going to refer this to counsel and a vote from counsel says that the report given to the administrative committee was voted down by not voted down but the consensus of this committee it's not a vote it has to be a consensus I would respectfully sir we think that that what you would do in the committee deal is is vote to either move it to counsel or or ended it committee love but that's what I'm saying that's what I'm that's what I'm saying and I think you we're not in it we can't we can't just like executive committee we can't vote in it we are in committee so I guess I'll take back and I'm saying my recommendation not vote my recommendation back to city council would be for us to not pursue this recent knocks were you gonna say something that's that's that's what I'll say it's not a vote again well it's going I think the issue that Howard brought up was that there was volumous volumous reporting that were being asked of staff and that reporting was volumous mr. Deval no no make this is what Howard represented and this was not requested by council member this is this is the binder he held up at the meeting this is the report that was requested mr. Deval was incorrect I've had a private conversation with him about that I mean again this this request was made the city manager Wilson she she sent it back fairly close it's an honest engine this is the most this is information I'm going to assume it was generated off of this report but I already had all that information there was no need for me to ask for that so I mean I would ask if I could has the information request from council members been an issue let me say this no it's my job to provide information to the council it's the staff's job through the assistant city managers to help me do that I think as with any newly seated council to the point of context is not sometimes there for you for things that have been historical and so my intention if you ask me for something as I'm gonna be very thorough and when I give you I'm gonna try to to the best of my ability is that time-consuming is it voluminous at times probably yes depending on what it is but that's our job and so I think what you find with as ACM Benjamin was saying because we were asked to do this we were just trying to give you a flavor for what other cities towns counties do because what you all are talking about it ebbs and it flows I've been through this discussion with other councils and we work our way through and is there a need maybe not right and then maybe you're gonna decide it sounds like not right now for some type of order to the request that come in the more seasoned council the form that miss Benjamin share with you may recommend asked for that form to be made a couple years ago it wasn't when he was a new member of council it wasn't when there are a lot of new members of council quite frankly was when it was a very seasoned council and there's a lot of probably high-profile things and a different dynamic on the council where people weren't necessarily agreeing on certain things and somebody wanted this and somebody wanted that and it might have been a little contentious at times so I am very used to I'm not alarmed by what we have going on right here I'm always gonna be honest and yes which we knew this coming into a new council it's a lot but it's okay and we're gonna make our way through it whether you all want to formalize something right now to help with that that's fine if you don't we don't keep on doing what we do because that's what that's our job and I can't say that we're perfect and I can't say because of the volume of things that several new members are asking for and because I feel like sometimes when you ask for something again you don't have the context behind it so I'm gonna probably give you a little more and then we meet I mean it's not just the information and getting them through sometimes we're meeting I have tried to be flexible about you all meeting that's why I really do really lean in on our assistant city managers who I think are phenomenal on our public safety folks I trust them they not on light surprises they are an extension of me for your benefit so that we can give good information and give thorough information if you all want to have a form if you all want to have a process it does not matter to me if you don't have one we're gonna keep on trying to do what we're doing so it really is your decision to make and I never intended to cause any kind of confusion by giving maybe even more than what was asked for in that particular instance but there have been things that have been asked for that are I mean it isn't I mean putting the boards and commissions I use as example that was asked for it was a process we probably needed to do it hadn't been done to really thoroughly compile every single thing that's out there you are probably gonna find do we still need to have this board or this commission necessarily in the structural form that is currently in until we went through that exercise and it was a tremendous amount of time and energy but I'll tell you what's come from it Ashley has gotten so many just so much more engagement and feedback from people interested in applying I know mr. Taylor gave me a handful of applicants the other day they're going online they're reaching out to you all it's you know it's been a good thing so it's it's it's okay I mean we we or I have been through several councils now I guess I'm getting old and I've seen what comes with it you know it everybody's got to get in rhythm and some of this is just that is the way I look at it we just got to get in a good rhythm and it'll level off okay thank you very much yes sir I think I think we're still TK thank you for that clarification this is not a vote if you all decide to make an additional recommendation that we take this off of the agenda and report this to council then we will do that but it's a recommendation and I would hope that we not do this today that we do it on the 17th is there could I learn a little bit more about why you would want to hold that off why not I mean this is a council of action mr. McDowell we get stuff done so let's get this done wait a minute you get things done we get things that we get when are you get things we get things I just wanted to make sure I said we I said we she said we yes I did well I I'm learning from you no you're not learning from me there's a conversation where anyway I would like to not move this forward based on an incorrect statement by a council member and I just don't think it should go forward oh well and good make the recommendation that we not move it forward all right so noted please note that this is not a vote the record will not so indicate that we'll plant let me just say a pardon word reference in that at some point in time there may be a revistion of that when that time comes if we need to do it again we'll do it yes sir we want to talk a little bit about an idea that the mayor and I and of course we a clean team we we all drive around this beautiful city of the Midlands and and see litter landscaping that needs to be done and a lot of that falls outside of the realm of what we do here the city of Columbia so I would like to have us take ownership of not just within the municipal boundaries but really own a lot of the beautification the litter pickup the storm water and water cleaning activities from gutter storm drains drainage ditch the broad spectrum of what makes us proud to be citizens here in the city the way the way our communities our hospitality districts our our gateways our interstates is very important to everybody so I wanted to bring the concept forward ask for feedback hopefully well from your from your guidance chairman is to turn it over to staff and maybe come back at the next meeting with some ideas about it you can see the task list that generally I put together and then I backed into the reasoning how we how we fund it there all these all these tasks point to the Columbia water department and the the importance of these tasks so bolting it to Columbia water I think is a natural fit and then we talk about temporary hires during the peak season of yard waste I think Robert can can speak to that a little bit 20 to 40 part time employees are hired during that time why not keep those on those folks on the career path year round and start off a Columbia clean team based on that the four water districts branch out outside of the city limits so that's a natural fit to reach outside the city boundaries and then we get into possible equipment that's needed salaries I think would be comparable for the entry positions and just how how we can build these these these careers through ways to move up in Columbia water in the city of Columbia so it's general topics we've discussed but pulling it all together justifying the revenue to make a difference I think is important so I just want to bring that to the committee today for your consideration and feedback I think with Clinton Robert's feedback on the general concept we could definitely have something in your feedback as well we'd certainly like to have something going into the summer something that in comments about what's missing from the from the operation the tasks you know we all think we all make mayor recommend mentioned youth cleanup programs that could be managed by this program and you have an idea of a budget working I will work with them the 24 employees talking this money would come out of water and sewer water and sewer they're going to water employees and that's what we can get feedback where that needs to come from I think certainly not a warning sir and I think and thank you for the opportunity I think is certainly legal zen put is very valuable there and in light of past lawsuits in terms of available funding we do have our storm water fund as well that potentially could support activities within the city I think when we go outside the city and the folks being inside the city to pay the storm we've got to work through some of those issues as well but we can take these points councilman and put some cost to that and some ideas and I know Robert you've also got we had a program that we were working on before the pandemic started with transitions in terms of employing homeless individuals to help us with not only litter collection but beautification efforts and so we were preparing that budget and in the pandemic hit in that sea so we're we'd like to potentially resurrect that as a possible option as well to employ some of the homeless in the area and give them a sense of purpose as well so I think there's a couple ways we can attack this and come back to you with some some proposals that you know we can at least talk about what our next steps would be then happy to do that thank you couple of quick comments real quick I mean I've totally in favor of approving the appearance of the city I had a nice ride around Mr. Anderson last week I would put painting the curbs and paying the medians as a key part of this I just want to echo Chairman McDowell I have a real concern about taking the funding out of the water department I mean I mean looking looking ahead at some budget things that we've discussed and you have a real issue on your rate case by the way we keep taking this kind of stuff out compared to the other stuff we're doing and then I guess the last piece be cautious on the storm water I mean that's that's that's turned into a de facto property tax and you know I was afforded a report of all things that gave some stormwater charges on things like auto dealerships and shopping centers and we're not talking about a hundred dollar or two hundred dollar or five hundred dollar or three thousand dollar or ten thousand dollar or fifteen thousand dollar stormwater charges we're talking thirty thousand dollar annual stormwater charge and I just think I think that's something we're going to have to address as we go over time so just be cautious on that I personally think and I suspect that we can deal with this at our retreat when we begin talk about priorities but I think the appearance of the city needs to be one of our three or four top priorities I think our asset set the example for everybody in the city how a property should look and I think it's that important I mean I think I think you're right I think there's a hybrid that to be had so and I think it leads us into a conversation where if it's not storm water if it's not water in sewage it has to be something that's going to generate a kind of cleanliness and mr. Chairman within it's a beefing up of what we currently have yeah that's that's correct it and that's what it does and I think in all honesty and if you all could bring to us something that I want to say doesn't include any of what perhaps mr. Taylor has talked about if there's some some way we can do this because I think each of us know that a clean city is a safe city and right now that is apparently not happening in some areas it is and in some areas it's not so on the 17th if we could bring that kind of information would certainly be helpful yes sir we'll be prepared with a report and give you some options for consideration that's what I want yes sir and can I do everyone and I you know I would look at the street sweeping program that we got you know how do we amplify that even more I would caution you on going outside the city limits I mean I would but I it gets back to you know our frustrations of two-notch road right outside the city limits I understand but our friends at the state and the county I don't think they service it as much as they should so some sort of ownership should be looked at again we just say I would caution us on looking at providing services outside of the city but I do I do think that the street sweeping and general appearances right and that's that that was the original thought was we service our water system outside the city we protect our stormwater our waterways outside the city we do stormwater outside the city so the tie with with the storm what would be just overall pollution prevention and I understand what I'm I guess what I'm saying is I think it's a big enough priority where you should think in the city but think bigger in the city not lesser in the city again like I say street sweepers getting the carves painted getting the medians painted by and round up by the tanker load you know coming up with designs that don't take manual labor with weed eaters that can be more automated with with clippers and grass cutters and Mr. Anderson I rode around with last week had some unbelievably good idea so that type of perfect thank you all so much yes ma'am if we did what now hopefully hopefully we can get this done on the 17th and be ready for the summer based on Ms. Wilson's statements will if you hold on just a second I do you know I do think one of the things we need to see what we can do is how do we build it as a community pride program I mean where we recognize businesses and homeowners you know who are doing an exceptional job of making their you know showing pride in their place how do you how do you how do we figure out ways to create incentives for people and I mean by monetary incentives I mean sometimes it's yard of the month and bad yard of the month you know it's so yeah how do we you know how do we incentivize people who aren't taking care of their stuff I mean I really do think then that's an unbelievably great point that this has got to be the PR side of it to inspire others is just as important as the city side to do our own deal I tell the story I grew up in Columbia I've been here 63 years when I was 10 or 11 we lived in Arcadia Lakes and Trunham Road was two lanes all the way through there and Trunham Plaza had just been built and when you were coming into Columbia there was this great big I shouldn't say great it was probably a four by six sign on the side of Trunham Road that said you know welcome to Columbia an all-American city a litter-free something and I can remember it to this day and we need we're gonna do a program like this we need to figure out how it brings back that same sense of pride that we saw back in the early 60s and you know I would encourage you to look at Mr. Cliff Judy's Yard of the Month program as part of it too I mean it's something he takes upon himself but there's some good messages thank y'all for coming up with that. Well I think it's thank you Clan. Yes sir. Robert as much as we called on you guys to do things for us whether it's yard maintenance whether it's water water you two guys that cut an edge of this thing will and his leadership of course will help us to concretize how this thing could really be put into place and again it would certainly be good I know you got to go will it would certainly be good if we could talk this thing through on the 17th and be ready for the summer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Robert. Thank you Clan. All right that ends my agenda for today are there any other concerns I know that the mayor has already spoken with me about a concern that he has that he will bring to council this evening are there other things all right is there is there a motion to adjourn. So moved and seconded that we adjourn. Signed I.