 Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop tech talk Tech talk tech talk tech talk talk talk talk talk. All right. Yeah lots of tech talk Again, if you have a question if you're watching us live and you're smart to watch a slide because then you can ask your question and We will answer that question anything to do with your home voiceover studio Throw it in the chat room and Jeff aside from saying tech talk will also write down that question and give it to us So we can answer it in the way that George and I always do which is the correct way Anyway, it's time for voiceover body shop tech talk right now Voiceover body shop tech talk is brought to you by Voiceover essentials calm the home of Harlan Hogan signature products source elements the folks who bring you source connect Voheroes calm become a hero to your clients with award-winning voiceover training Voice actor calm your voice over website ready in minutes voiceover extra your daily resource for voice over success and by world voices the industry association of freelance voice talent And now here's your hosts Dan and George Well, hello there just to make things straight. I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Whidham and this is voiceover body shop or vo Bs Tech talk tech talk. All right. It's tech talk number 111 We've been doing this a long time Therefore we know everything Well, at least we think we do you know everything up until this moment. Yes, but we haven't forgotten anything We have no we did listen. I've probably forgotten more than some people actually know, but That's the great thing about having done this for so many years You know when we started we knew what we were doing and then we learned more because now we're the experts Because we were already the experts and now we know more stuff than you could ever know about your home voiceover studio And we have forgotten more stuff than you could ever know. Yeah, so it's like somebody gives us something like why does it sound like this? What could it be? What could it be? And you go through this list of things and it's like. Oh, that's what it is Try that. Oh, yeah, that fixed it It makes you feel good when that happens It does, you know, because people think that you're brilliant It's like now. We've only seen this 20 times before we just have to remember. That's what it was You know turn your mic around It's experience exactly experience experience pays and if you want to have a great home voiceover studio One I would suggest don't ask in social media What's the best way to do this or the best way to do that? What mic should I buy all this stuff? instead Work with people that have the experience as I was just saying We've been doing this for a combined well over 30 years in this really specific niche area of voiceover, which is home voiceover studios and what is a home voiceover studio? it's whatever you want it to be and More importantly what you needed to be which sometimes isn't exactly what you want it to be Because it doesn't have to be aesthetically pleasing unless you're building a really nice place in Georgia Contractor and you you you sort of build these these really beautiful studios for people who can afford really Definitely not a contractor. Okay. You're not. I'm sorry. We are in California. You you help other people with that Yeah, I helped design these things, but uh, yeah contracting. Oh boy. That's a No, I mean, yeah, it doesn't have to look like a studio You won't you might want what's in frame on your webcam to look acceptable like right now Just off frame this place is an absolute disaster, but you would never know that But the key thing is like it has to sound good. So that's what we do That's what we're into and I can help you that with that over at George the dot tech That's my place on the web for support and we call ourselves performer friendly texts because we're here to help Performers of all kinds with their technology voice actors podcasters streamers home musicians who have to kind of Sort of work their way through a mess of wiring and other things to get what they need recorded and what they need to hear in their headphones We can help you with all that stuff at George the dot tech and Dan What you doing over there on your your website? We're over at home voiceover studio calm that place all sorts of stuff I talk about what you really need for voiceover and I do consults with people You know whether you've got equipment or not I can get you up and running pretty quickly and you'll realize that doing voiceover from your home is not Rocket science. It's there are techniques. You have to know I teach those techniques I will work with you privately to make sure that you get that done Properly and when I say it's good it is good or it sounds what it's supposed to sound like with soul so and there's a way and we know what that way is and We know how to achieve that so if you want to work with me go on one over to home voiceover studio calm where I also have my specimen collection cup and for $25 I will analyze your audio and Tell you what you need to make it Right and it's not a matter of enhancing it. It's usually a matter of proper recording techniques Which I will be happy to explain to you Anyway, it's time for George's tech update. Whatever it is that he's been Browsing the internet with this week and go ahead and tell us what you got Alright, let's do it. So Last week I got to do a field trip and it was a lot of fun I was invited in well, I kind of invited myself I Was a welcome to come up and visit the folks at vocal booth calm You know admittedly there are a brand that you probably haven't heard us mention all that often on the show There's a few others that have kind of gotten a lot of the spotlight the last so many years and you know good marketers The new kid on the block etc, right but vocal booth calm has been there a long time in fact 26 years in business and continuous operation creating voiceover booths and It was a really great experience because the reason I was there and by the way They're up in Bend, Oregon, and if you like outdoors, holy smoke Bend, Oregon is Incredible so much great outdoor activity there mountain climbing skiing mountain biking fishing, etc but the whole point of why I went there was Vocal booth has been around a long time again they they have a consistent track record of of how the booths are built the quality and There they have you know something I forgot that they do which is they build the cost of shipping into the prices So when you're shopping on their website everything is priced Well as shipped right however, they've had this one to me a shortcoming and that has been the acoustics and You know because I think they just they build a booth that solves the problem for many people But they hadn't inspected it closely for acoustics for voiceover actors and you know I just I dealt with so many products over the years and I thought you know I wonder if they have an interest in improving the Acoustical sound of their booth, you know, we know they have good isolation. I know they have amazing ventilation But the acoustics was something that I just was never really that super sold on So guess what we did a little collab. I went up there and I did some design work with their Their basically the production manager who is in charge of making everything there I mean he comes up with the actual fabrication process for materials and gets all that stuff together and He came up with some paneling based on my ideas for materials and size and all that stuff We tested them out and we came out with some excellent new Products by the time this one airs you guys might some of you're watching this live But by the time this comes out in a week Those products might already be available to purchase if not on the website You can email them and find out But I did some tests and I thought maybe I could take a few a minute here or so and I'll play back some samples I recorded in the booth with a TLM 103. I Freddie who helps run the company over there. I said, hey, do you happen to have a TLM 103? This is the torture test Microphone for a booth and he said yeah, I actually do have one So he had brought his mic in and we tested a few others and I tried it. I tried his four by four Vocal booth which is probably one of the most common sizes in terms of people buying a studio for a home And I tested it with the TLM 103 Totally bone stock exactly as the booth comes and this is what that sounded like And it's not terrible, but let's see if we can hear the difference. Here's the stock format All right, this is our control so now we're in the vocal booth Four by four in stock form. This is just the two inch panel in the ceiling two inch foam on the walls TLM 103 Let's be a little bit more true to life and bring the mic in a little bit closer in my recommended placement which would be Vista thumb distance off to my right and let's get into it one two A little bit of bass resonance in there There's the resonant ring Here at ring now it really is ringing. I got that ring Yes, that's what I do. I think Dan does this. We go into booths. We make sounds And we listen right one two one two one so one two Yeah, so you hear that and you can clearly hear the booth's resonances It has a ring to it etc. Etc. So then we set up the new materials that we are working on And this is what it sounded like All right, here's my favorite torture test mic TLM 103 Whatever reason I have it upside down right now. It doesn't know I need to be but It is and it's in the corner in the same placement as before But this time now we're using our Our foam material panels not the rock wool And uh, I'm standing center of the booth mic is Well, almost a foot away from me right now. So this is what I'm sounding like a foot away This is what I'm sounding like as I move in towards the microphone Starring to get into a sweeter spot starting to get in the proximity effect zone There we are and deep into the proximity effect zone one two three four five one two three four five five four three Five four three two one there. That's as deep as my voice is gonna get There you go, so quite the difference there quite the difference, right? Yeah, I mean the thing that amazed me amazed me the most I think was that it does it sounded better What the with the treatment added in A foot a full foot away from the mic and it sounded when you were close to the mic without the treatment Which was a really cool test because I have been telling folks for years If you want to get your little booth sounding better get closer to the mic and yeah, that is a quick fix But there's no substitute for good treatment and wow, what a difference it made and I was really It was just a really great opportunity to experiment to have access to materials the booths Space time etc and do tests like this. I did recordings like this with an nt1 Because we had one of those on hand and I brought along a shotgun mic the road ntg Five did similar tests with that mic. So it would give us a few mics to compare Again the tlm103 I always call that the torture test that mic picks up every damn thing And it was really good I did a I did an interview on on my other show the pro audio suite with freddy The two of us standing side by side in the four by six booth Just sharing a single tlm103 So we didn't want to get too friendly So the mic was you know, it was a solid foot To maybe even foot and a half away from us. So it was not that close And um, you know when that comes out, you guys, I think it'll be out on next week You'll get to hear what that sounded like again Surprisingly good. So I'm just saying I'm really glad that they were willing to collaborate with me Once these products come out, you'll see them start peering on the website You'll be able to they'll be an instant Upgrade that you can easily install in the Platinum or gold series in the silver series It'll take a little bit more installation effort, but they're going to come up with systems for that as well But again on the gold and the platinums, it'll be an instant. Just put it wherever you need it at any height that you need To get the sound uh that you want. So anyway, that was a cool a really cool experience and a nice Group of guys over there. So the podcast will have out soon I've also did an interview of the owner of the company and I did an interview Actually, I did a factory tour where I walked all through the factory showing all the different Processes that go into building one of their booths. That's the law be up on george the tech YouTube one of these days Um, so kudos to vocal booths for Reaching out and I mean being willing to bring in some from the outside. Yeah, they haven't a lot of companies don't Regularly consult with us. They don't read something. They need to know we're here And that we know what voice actors do and and how that's done. So yeah, I mean, I have to say their customer service excellent They really listen to people's needs and they do a lot of custom stuff far more than you would think they can custom shape and size their booths Almost unlimited. So if you need it really short Probably the only game in town, let's say You need a booth that's fitting a six and a half foot ceiling basement They can do it. They can actually cut their booths down even the doors. They make their doors in house. They actually 100% from the slab. They cut all they they have the milling machine to cut the doors. It's really cool. You'll see the video When it comes out, um, moving on, um, a little just a little ps a When you get a usb mic or an interface When you get a usb mic or an interface Consider where you plug it in to your system Now some folks are going to have a hub many people have hubs because Computers these days macbooks especially have only two or three ports, right? So they really have shrunk down in the report. So we all have hubs, but i'm going to tell you it's probably the best bet To try to make sure your mic or your usb interface is plugged directly into the computer Not into a hub. I just had a client. She got a brand new road nt one fifth gen and she sent me recordings and I was hearing like this weird high-pitched Sort of a whistling hissing sound. It was weird. It was a weird noise And I said, can you I think something's not going on. Can you make sure that's plugged directly into the computer? When she did that the noise floor changed dramatically all the weird interference hissing whining that was there Again, it was subtle I kind of processed it out But you know that was my job to evaluate the audio and I heard it and when she took that Directly into the computer all the mic was hearing at that point was just the room tone You know, whatever the sound of her room was and it made a difference. So that's just a tricky one Really make sure your mics are Your interfaces whenever possible are really going directly Into the computer. You're going to get the best possible Probably the least amount of noise as a result now. Is that always going to be true for every scenario? No, not necessarily So, you know try and test and if you need a sound check you can hook me up or you can talk to dan and get a Specimen connect collection cup and we'll take a listen But there you go last thing and there's a little bit of show and tell Well Guess who made a new sure? SM7 B It must be the folks. It's sure since yeah ones that make it They sure did And guess what it's called the SM7 db Cute, right? Now, why do you think it's called that? well It's got a built-in preamp so Sure was words, uh, I think extremely late to the game on this But they decided to finally add a internal preamp or booster. Let's call what it is a cloud lifter Since roger cloud invented the whole cloud lifter design idea They decided to finally integrate one inside an sm7b This is not the mic we recommend for voice server. We've said it 10 000 times But I thought when a mic this venerable This well known this iconic Uh in broadcast has it an upgrade or it? I don't know if it's an upgrade, but it has a change made to it I thought it was worth mentioning. So yeah now you can get the sm7 db Which has a two stage built-in? booster or preamp they're calling it which gives you 18 decibels or 28 decibels Or none so it has a bypass. So it's basically three different stages of gain Um built into the mic as well as the original The little presence bump switch and the low cut switch that they have always had On that microphone. So there you go. Now. There's a a more expensive mic not good for voiceover available Since a lot of you folks also do podcasts and That's a mic that's very popular for podcasts. I just thought it'd be fun to mention it. Yeah But you know, there it is. Yeah, it the generally dynamic mics have very low output. So, uh, generally they do And you know this so they built a preamp into this you still have to get up to that mic To make it work the way it's supposed to you know, when it's a broadcast mic, you know, and The signal goes into a transmitter. It is Compressed and amplified and all that stuff. So you don't need those things with broadcast But of course things aren't really broadcast anymore. Everything's streamed So podcasted or streamed, right? Yeah. So your levels have to be pretty good or people are going to have to crank up their Their radios or what they're there or their computers or whatever they're listening on So you need to be heard very very clearly And I just think it's funny It came out with that boost thing because the last two years all the companies that make interfaces For you know, they're trying to take a chunk out of that market Are adding gain like crazy the roadcaster pro added a ton more gain The the focus right scarlet now has more gain. Everybody has added more and more gain Mostly because of this one freaking mic and then they come out and build in the gain booster Like making all that like kind of uh, you know redone it. So anyway, it just was funny that they Decided to do that the only review on their website says why did you add that gigantic word sure on the side of the mic? Because now it doesn't look like the original Sure sm7 it looks like a new sm7 and people I think are pretty picky about how this microphone looks So that was funny. Anyway, that's it for me Dan. You're gonna talk about drop-in editing Yeah, I mean who cares what a microphone looks like. Yes, we're gonna talk about here This is something I've been wanting you to do and that is teach a skill Uh, if you're new to voiceover and you need to know how to edit better This is one of the basic things you have to know how to do and it's called a drop-in edit Uh, sometimes some people will say it's uh, um What do they call that when with uh with punch punch a punch punch. Yeah You know taking this memory stuff, it's working a little bit better I can pull those words in when I need them Or I just know learn as a punch in or quick or punch and roll what it really is a punch or a quick punch Right, this is not this is after you have recorded something and say the client comes back to you and says you didn't pronounce that word right Or we added something and you've got to do something and put it Right in the middle of where you're recording and how do you do that? Well, I'm going to show you on twisted wave How simple this actually is Uh, I gotta share my screen here Let's see uh share screen. It's right there present share screen share my window and share There it is twisted wave those of you who use twisted wave I'm sure you recognize it. Okay. I'm going to read just a little bit of copy here And then I'm going to show you how to do Uh a drop-in edit the key to this If you know if you're use if you have to add a word or subtract a word or something You want to add a little piece of the sentence? Do the edit on a hard consonant But just just a quick example of how we do this Okay, here's some weird copy that uh, I'm pretty familiar with Hear better and save with exclusive pricing on a wide selection of hearing aids and accessories AARP hearing solutions provided by united healthcare hearing includes an additional $100 off the AARP member rate on thousands of name brand hearing aids Okay, so we've got A file here Perhaps I didn't like the way this sounded here AARP hearing solutions provided by united healthcare hearing includes Okay So say I want to say that again AARP hearing solutions provided by united healthcare hearing includes One way you can do it is just go to the end of the line And hit record And read it again AARP hearing solutions provided by united healthcare hearing includes All right Simple enough. We know that this is there AARP hearings. Okay, and so you just highlight this command C Then you go to edit undo recording But we know that this is AARP and we just highlight that And copy and then paste it And now it's AARP hearing solutions provided by united healthcare hearing includes so we know That it now has total continuity, but here's another trick here's something I could do that will show you exactly How to insert on a hard consonant a p a t a d Uh a q a k something along those lines not a soft consonant like an s or an f Or a w you know things like that. So Say I want to replace something here here better and save with exclusive pricing on a wide selection of hearing aids and accessories So say I want to say this part again pricing up So again go over here And read that part again Here better and save with exclusive pricing on a wide selection of hearing aids and accessories But say I want to get it really really tight and I like the way I said the beginning of the sentence which was here better and save with exclusive Here better and save with exclusive pricing up. Okay, so here Here better and save with exclusive. Okay So to make it tight at it here better and save with exclusive pricing up So you go you copy this section here pricing So you know that's the beginning of the p right here command c copy and then what you do is you Undo the recording take it out of the timeline, but here for the exclusive Okay, and we know we copied from pricing to the end of this line right And then just paste it And now Here better and save with exclusive pricing on a wide selection So you can literally cut in the middle of a word if you are using a hard consonant And that's how you do that Anyway, it's time to take a break and we'll be back with your questions Which you should have submitted by now to jeff holman right after these important messages. Don't go away This is ariana rattner and you're enjoying voiceover body shop with dan lennard and george wittem v obs dot tv Have you noticed the specific demands of clients regarding our home vo studios? Are they at a professional level to record for broadcast? And what does that mean? To me it means it doesn't sound bad I've seen several now demanding cardioid condenser microphones Some are great and cheap ones not so great So how do you choose? It's like standing in the checkout line at the supermarket deciding which candy or mince you want to buy So which is right for you? 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They couldn't leave the studio. They couldn't really go on vacation They were stuck. Well, there was this new uh new kid on the block 15 16 years ago called source connect Which allowed us to do this over the internet The last forward 15 years is dn is dead is dn Um had to go away for lots of reasons But source connect being a modern software tool that runs on the internet Persisted and that is why it is absolutely the era parent and is used on so many big projects So if you feel like that's something that's coming For you or you're ready to do that big uh demo for that kind of work That's going to bring you that kind of uh kind of clientele Then it's time head over to source dash elements dot com Get yourself a trial license or if you're really serious about it start your subscription Because then you'll have the support that comes along with it And that's what makes it such a strong tool for you as an actor their support is fantastic head over there source dash elements dot com tell me sent you And we'll be right back up to this next spot right up to this Well, hey there, it's david h laurance with vo heroes and wouldn't it be cool If there was a very simple tool drag and drop tool that would guarantee That the audio you need to upload to acx or any other audiobook platform is perfectly set up in terms Of the tech standards the root mean square normalization the peak normalization the noise floor Guess what there is and I want you to have it absolutely free It's called audio cupcake and you can find it at audio cupcake dot com I helped create this software It was built to my specs and my standards for when I do audiobooks And I know it's going to work for you now It's only available for macintosh Because you windows users you have the ability to use other tools that work for you But in this case you edit your final raw wave file for a chapter You drop it onto audio cupcake and out comes the 192k mono mp3 file you can upload immediately That's audio cupcake dot com audio cupcake dot com. I hope you love it Hi, this is bill farmer and you are watching voiceover body shop. It's great And we are back. Thanks bill farmer. Yeah Trying to get bill back on the show. It's a funny story here I wanted to get him back in the show when we were in atlanta And I ran into him and his wife at at in the restaurant there and I said You know, I lost your business card. I I want to get you back on and you know, of course She pulls out her her card and she's a florist, I believe and Got the card One to call him looked all over the place. Where was his card? Finally cleaning out my drawer. I'm like, oh There it is. It was Actually, I think it was actually in a jacket pocket or something like that And uh, so hopefully we'll get bill back on the show. All right, which would be good He needs to she needs to answer my email though. Well, I will find his we could also find his agent That that's true technology That's good to know. All right. Well, we got a couple of questions here that are of course excellent and Starting with zachery chalmers. He says is ventura ready for prime time yet? Yes Yeah, because uh, it's what comes on it gets what started coming out a year ago If it's been out a year It's it's it's ready for prime time because there's been a full year now of software support updates Bug fixes, etc. Etc. Etc. I'm still running monoray on this machine here But on my laptop, I am running ventura. That's what it came with didn't have any choice um, and uh, it's caused me absolutely no grief now for quite a few months So yes now the next one Is sonoma? That's the one you're not ready to just jump in to start using quite yet If you're really, uh, loving to try new things if you like to live dangerously Go ahead and install it. I don't know if it's Currently shipping or shipping soon, but uh, sonoma is the next macOS um Part two from zack and I can demonstrate this Is there a good noise reduction similar to the built-in noise reduction that's available in adobe audition? That is good in a twisted wave. Well Didn't they add one? Hmm, didn't they add one of their is there is allow me to allow me to show you the where it is Now my two are doosity. That's right. That's lucid. We don't have don't have don't have to worry about the delay here Because it's just a quick demonstration of how this all works And okay, so here's a file in twisted wave Uh, aside from someone using a limiter on it You want me to take a pay cut? Okay, so say someone has A little bit of background noise. How do you get rid of it? in You go to effects and it says learn noise profile So we don't see the shared menus unfortunately because it's just one of those weird things about sharing window Yeah, but you do get noise profile, which is pretty much exactly the same as audacity, right? And so you highlight a little bit of the audio and even though you can't see me doing it I go to learn noise profile and now you Cover the whole thing and you go back to effects and de noise And don't go hell hog wild on it, you know, maybe a low setting. Yeah, like I've been using 25 percent and hit apply and it cleans As you can see It's pretty clean between between there. So it got rid of A low a low tone that was in there and see how it sounds if you can oh sure You want me to take a pay cut? I'm a valuable member of this team. You know, it's so It there's no background noise at all. So yeah, like all these tools use them lightly You know, yeah, not too much. Yeah, that'll do. Yeah. Yeah, and that's the thing I think people tend to over process and that's what destroys audio. Yeah, so use things subtly But that I I've used that That noise reduction twisted wave a couple of times it works pretty well Especially so much yet. Yeah. Well, you know, somebody sends me something. It says I use twisted wave Which is why I ask when you submit something in my specimen collection cup What computer are you using what software because I want to be able to solve the problem Using that particular software and the more provide more you provide us when you get the sound checks and things The better we can give you, you know, we can give you better advice Absolutely, we don't want to guess, you know, it's we ask lots of questions and that's the key I learned that from selling life insurance ask lots of questions It's called a fact finder and with your home studio stuff Ask lots of questions. It's a fact finder for me It takes us right to where we need to be to find the answer to your problem Next question all yours All right, this one's from Justin Ramos in the youtube world. Thanks for the AT875 our recommendation That's this microphone right here Um, this microphone right Yeah, we all have to have around because they're so affordable and work so well that they're just hard to beat For the price, um, but he wants to know He's doing an interview for an interview for family history. So he needs a second microphone for the guest What about the pseudotac 800 or the at 2020 sounds like he has a hundred dollar price limit on the second mic Yes in here or maybe one omni mic So, okay, you can go with one more omni mic to record multiple people It just sounds a lot more roomy. So It's gonna sound like you're sitting in an echoey living room And however echoey the living room is the omni mic will make it sound even probably more echoey So it can work, but everybody's got to be everybody's got to be pretty cozy They need to really kind of come in close and sit very close to that microphone Um, so it's not a bad idea Now because the thing is if you have two microphones now you have two microphones to sort out So if your people are if your subjects are really close to each other Two condenser mics is more challenging actually when they're really close to each other You're really better off with one Um and sharing it because two mics means twice as much noise Twice as much. Um, yeah double dance gesturing Literally handheld mic-ing which if you have good technique is a really good idea um But now you now you if you have two mics you have twice as many mics to pick up noise room reverb crosstalk Which is one microphone that's on this subject hearing the person way over here As their voice bleeds over right there's a lot of tricky things to getting a couple of mics to work Well, that is why those low output dynamic mics that are meant to be used kind of like this Are so popular for podcasts because you're now eating the microphone and the microphones don't hear as much crosstalk and And bleed right? So what would you get for a second mic? I mean maybe a 2020 but again, that's a large that's a Wide diaphragm a wide what's the large a large diaphragm condenser? Yeah, and it's a wide pickup pattern Right, so if you were to use that mic, maybe try that mic alone And have you and your family member sitting on not the front and the back That won't work because the back is a cancels out But maybe on each side of the microphone like a 45 degree angle from the microphone And that could work really really well, so or yeah Find a mic that has an omnia figure eight pattern And then you could figure eight put put a put a microphone right between you and your subject And both of you can talk and the mic will pick it up both ways I hate to say this but the yeti will do that, but there are other microphones that haven't It's true and the yeti will do that. Yeah, and I think a lot of people bought it to do family histories and stuff Having been a former social studies teacher That is a great project do a family an oral history So you get those stories that grandpa used to tell and stuff like that so Good for you. No, this is this is one of those cases where the yeti That has the multi pattern would be a pretty nice choice as an alternative Um because easy you can set it on the table between you guys Just still keep in mind. You want to be Don't get too far away. It's going to sound real reverberant Um other part two question to this is that he wants a comparison good thing. Harlan's not listening He didn't like this as much, but that's okay. That's the way You know, we were comparing products and that's what we do What's the main difference between the tri booth and Harlan's? porta booth price acoustics size I appreciate the audio samples on both respective websites. Well, I mean that means he's been doing his research So let me show you real quick. Um, I'll just do a screen share I've got both booth product pages upside by side. We won't labor the subject But you'll at least see immediately what the differences are And that's the wrong screen Take two Share screen we'll do Entire screen screen two there we go There we go. So on the left hand side is the porta booth pro, which is Harlan's uh premiere product for portable voice over recording It's a roughly four hundred dollar unit. It folds up into a bag That is carryable like this that you can carry all sorts of stuff in Yeah, you can stuff things in there On the right hand side is the tri booth, which is a totally different animal because Well, as you can see, it's big enough for us to stand Buy it. It's it's much larger It fits into a duffle It includes all of the framework pipe And blankets to create an intent completely enclosing you down to your Shins, I guess So, yeah, it's a very different concept around creating a portable booth. So Depending on which one you use now, I happen to know people I do have both Andrew Peters, for example from my podcast proteasweet He actually does have both and he will use one or the other now. He likes to take vespa trips He will actually take his porta booth pro a vespa trip Yeah, he takes a little longer, but you know, he loves vespa travel And he will do vespa trips and travel long distances and actually bring The porta booth pro on the vespa. Mackie. We should get a picture of that to send to harland harland being a motorcyclist He would love that right You would not probably want to not that you couldn't but you probably want to want would not want to try to bring The tri booth, which is almost 50 pounds in the bag on the back of a vespa That would be rather uncomfortable or awkward So if you want something that's a little more substantial that has You know ergonomically you stand up. It feels like a booth that you would have at home Has a copy holder has a light Has a lot of other little accessories Then that's where the tri booth comes into play price wise, you know, the pry booth the tri booths about four times more Uh, a little less than four times more expensive. So they're in totally different pricing class. So there you go That's that's the difference. Of course, I know them extremely well I've set them up. I helped design the tri booth. So, you know, They're just horses for courses guys different animals Well, yeah different animals for different situations. If you have the room to set up a tri booth That's a good place to do it. If you you've only got a desk in a hotel room You know a porta booth pro will work very well for that and there's There's techniques for using both and that's part of experience. You have to learn how to use tools Having tools means nothing unless you know how to use them properly, right? I think the tri booth is a little bit more idiot proof Because it is it does because it does completely surround you It does a better job of controlling the space all the way around you Whereas the the porta booth pro is a little bit less. It doesn't have as much coverage, right? Right. Um, so that's a big difference So anyway, thanks for asking and I hope that helps you make a decision. Yeah Um, okay. So jeff holman asks. I assume we should wait to upgrade to the new mac os What about the new ios for iphone note? I don't use ios for voiceover though I do use my iphone to record myself tape auditions. Oh, yeah Well, there's a new ios. It just came out when the ios comes out I trust apple. I must be a moron, but it's I I do because You know, I wake up and it's like, you know update. I'm like Okay I I like the whole once bitten twice shy thing. I think five seven years ago. They were they have a few bad Bad launches. Yeah, um, but from what I've heard from the from the geek community is that they have gotten much better At vetting their updates before launch. So yeah, I mean on my phone. There it is upgrade to ios 17 I just updated my phone to 16.7. I opted to do the update to the last ios 16 before jumping to ios 17 And it's mainly because it's ios 17.0 So, you know, there may be a point seven point seven there might be a point one For sure. There's gonna be a point one and a point two. So I I I like to be a little patient I try to be the good thing is that they don't shove the upgrade down your throat as much They might tell you it's there, but they don't Force it on you. In fact, I have my phone set up to not do that. I have I told I said, please don't I don't want to see betas And I don't want automatic updates. I I like to have I'm a little bit more of a control freak. So Um, I think it'd be fine, but Take it with a grain of salt and if your phone's important to you um Just be a little bit more wary. I think um And then about the new ios Yeah, that's what we were saying earlier Wait to upgrade to the new macOS the new one being sonoma, which I haven't even seen it. Yeah. Is it is that is that as they say shipping? You go to apple.com. Do you see that's in any promotion for it or anything? So it might still be in beta Yeah, yeah, so it's it is the next one and the next one is too new It's still I still feel like it's too new. So I'm I'm gonna wait on oh yeah on that Some friends of mine dan, you're pretty brave to upgrade. Um, tim freelander. He likes to try things out when they come out Um, check out the mac and ios for vo Facebook group that I made a while ago. That's a place where we share things in a safe space about apple products Yeah, some people get very give a very visceral reaction when you say apple, but that's some people do they pristle Um, anyway, thanks Jeff. Thanks. Thanks for asking Rob Ryder says, you know adobe audition has Insert recording so it won't cover the original recording. That is true But copy and paste works just as well and just as fast. I mean, I've gotten so fast at just being able to copy something You know, it's there on the it's there on the the copy board and then Just pasting it where you want to paste it and you know and I can go through this stuff I do some stuff where there are some very difficult pronounce the asians and the client is always coming back saying, you know, you have to use more phlegm Uh Is that where a windscreen is a good idea? No, not really Uh, he's trying to say things a little bit, you know a little bit more ethnically Uh, good question here. Greg cooper on youtube. Could you clarify what you mean by editing on a consonant? A hard consonant. I think I said what that means is you can literally add it in the middle of a word if you have a hard Consonant in there a t a b a p even a d but soft consonants like s and v and W things, you know those consonants that sort of draw out a word But a hard consonant Is a hard is a hard in you can see it on the waveform that it it's very sudden so like what I was trying to do in the uh, the demonstration earlier Is I was trying to cut between the a and the c in accordingly because You can do that and make it absolutely seamless. No one would never know you did that And so that's another copy and pasting so you might want to record a phrase To lead into where the where the pickup is But just edit from the hard consonant in and You know, I've been doing that for years and they're none the wiser that I've done that I love it Yeah, I love it. I wanted to do a little uh, um, I wanted to check check What rob said because I know he's into the tech stuff like us And I think they may have added this mode of recording in a w audition maybe recently Maybe I don't know when but if you right click on the record button itself You get instant record punch and roll and timed record modes, but then below that There's overwrite and then there's insert mode When I choose insert mode Let's see one two one two Now that seems to more imitate what twisted wave does Yeah, so there actually looks like they did add that into audition now Yeah, the the great thing about editing on a consonant and using that kind of stuff Is your voice might be different And if you just use part of a word To fix something if you didn't say something, right? You you're not going to notice any voice flaws like say I've had a cold for two weeks I wish it would go away But it you can and you can hear it in my voice so something I recorded two months ago is not going to sound the same so You know, that's why a tight edit like that Can save you if you have to do a pickup and your voice is very very or the time of day you recorded it Because boy my voice sounds a lot different in the morning than it does late in the afternoon Although it seems to sound like this all the time right now because I can't seem to kick this thing out of my Sinuses Anyway, this is now patricia entree has a great question here because this has been coming up. Oh by the way Yeah, when I go to software update gets with the new version of macOS available today is Sonoma. Yeah, so if I clicked upgrade kids list, can I can I let's talk for a second? If it says upgrade That is not the same as update This is not when it says upgrade now that is not an invitation to upgrade That is the mac os saying there's something new to try click more info Right below that And then you'll see other updates available And you'll see that there's new updates available for the os you already have for example I can click other updates available more updates and see mac os meant monterey 12.7 Is available right so I can still upgrade update I can still update the version. I already have so it sounds like she upgraded to sonoma Alrighty and now she can't record twisted wave. So what should she do? I don't know Um, honest. Well, okay. That's not a right answer. The right answer is to uh, there's two pain. There's the Okay, I'm sure the thomas from silver cell Twisted wave. Sorry. Yeah, as has been testing sonoma, right? That's his job, right? He probably does have a fix or an update or a patch For twisted wave on sonoma. So email support at twisted wave.com. Let them know Check the website. There's probably a patch or a fix that will make it work very very very likely If there is not and you really are are in trouble You need to have backed up your computer before upgrading which you use time machine and backup your computer, right? You need to restore the previous backup of your system and go back to Um venture Those are your options right now. Yep. All right. I'm gonna wrap this up. Yeah So anyway, thanks for all your questions and we'll be right we'll be right back to wrap this up after these Very important messages. 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