 I want to address a couple of things. I want to see if I can clear up a few things. I don't know if Vlad Savchuk is going to hear this, although I do suspect that maybe he won't hear it today, but I do suspect that he will hear this. Now I want to clear up some things because he says some things and it just didn't rub me the right way. Let's put it that way. There's some things that, some arguments that he makes that we just need to deal with. And there's some things that he says that I think are pretty insulting. I don't have a problem with them being insulting, but they are insulting. You can say something insulting to somebody and it not go to your head. You can be insulted and not just mess you up, but he still says something insulting. And I also want to ask a question. Maybe you guys in the chat can tell me, maybe someone can get information to me to tell me where they get this thing from about this whole issue of deliverance. Now, when it comes to deliverance, I'm pretty sure. I feel confident in saying that we do not misrepresent what they believe or what they think. That part I'm sure of. I don't recall them ever saying anything else. You know what, that's not how we see you. Everything that they say or everything that we think that they do or say or believe we see it. We hear their arguments. Sometimes though they misrepresent, let's say my arguments and the thing is they know them. They know them and yet they still misrepresent them. So maybe someone in the chats can help me out. Now, I am asking also, because I'm never gonna get one of them to respond or talk to me, that I get. But I would like for someone who is a fan of theirs, of Vlad, of Lovie Elias, of Isaiah, of Market, whoever, I would love at some point in time, I wanna try to set up to where I can just talk with you. I just have a nice cordial conversation now. I don't know if it's gonna happen or not. I've got to vet some people because not everyone's gonna get on. So we'll see how this works. But they make this statement. And I wanna see, cause again, maybe I'm missing it. Maybe there's a passage that I don't get. I don't see that I've forgotten, not aware of. But they make this statement about demons having this legal right. Flesh is a war with the spirit. And demons are not flesh. Demons are spiritual beings who have desires, appetites, who love to inhabit a body. And when you become a Christian, their legal right needs to be revoked and they need to be cast out. Jesus only had one solution for demonization and that is expelling them. It wasn't a sinner's prayer or even a water baptism or joining a church. It was expelling those demons. So demons need to be cast out. Okay, so now a couple of questions. One, he says that Jesus only had one solution. I disagree with that. We'll cover that in just a little bit. But this belief that demons have a legal right, and I've heard them say this before, that demons have a legal right. Hmm, is there a passage that tells us that demons have some sort of legal right that we've got to kind of overcome? We've got to do things in a certain way. And I've heard many cases or many times people in the word of faith movement say this. I've heard the Benny Hinn said this course. It makes sense. Benny Hinn has said this and he is a protege. He along with David D. Hernandez, these are people that came up under Benny Hinn and they like Benny Hinn. I've heard them say that, but I've never heard the scriptures. Just understand one thing about principalities. They are given a rightful status in the heavenly realm by the people and their sins. Therefore, we can't find principalities. So my question is where does this come from? Where if they, if they, if heaven, he says heaven has given them a legal status, a legal right, then they also say, he just said that we have given them legal right. I've heard Isaiah say the same thing and they have that they operate in legalities. What does that mean? Because if I're harking back to the first time that we see a demon on the planet, y'all do remember the first time we saw a demon on the planet. The first time we saw a demon on the planet it's in Genesis three. And it says, now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, now the reason why I'm going to this particular passage is because if we do things to give demons a legal right, legal authority on this planet, well, first of all, Adam and Eve did nothing to cause the devil or any other demon to be on the planet. So I'm wondering where this gets from and we do know that what happened in heaven, we do know what happened with this great rebellion and how Satan lifted himself up and said that I would be like the most high and then of course he was sent away. Well, that had nothing to do with us. We didn't, we didn't do that. So I would love to know, I'm checking the chats with one of my eyes, one of my four or five eyes that I have, I'm checking the chats to see if anyone has any sort of idea where this comes from. I have, I've heard this for the last, I don't know, 30, 40, 50, not 50 years, but 30, 40 years, maybe 20 years. I've heard this statement and I have never understood where this comes from. Yeah, I've heard of him. Is it Ty Jackson, Ty Jackson? He's out there, he is out there. But can someone, can someone help a brother out? I would love to know where this comes from. I don't, it's unfounded, but I'll put that to the side because if there's this legal right, then what does it mean? We have to, how do we go about then revoking this right? And if we revoke this right, does that mean that every demon who's right, we revoke that he's now cast, what, back into heaven? Well, certainly not back into heaven. Does he, does this demon? I'm assuming it's a he. I don't know what gender's demons have. I'm gonna assume they're all males. I don't know if they have the X, I know they don't have the XY chromosome on makeup. I know they don't have that, but we know that even though they do say that they send them to the pit after they vanquish them, how is it that we still have the same, if not even more, demonic activity? I'm just, I'm trying to figure this thing out. I'm trying to wade my way through this and get a good understanding because I don't want attack position if I just don't know their position. But as far as I can tell, there is no biblical basis for them saying that. Now, that should come as no surprise because for the most part, there is no biblical basis for what they're saying in regards to this. They're gonna make a statement. They keep making this statement. They keep making this statement. And I don't know, I don't know where they get this from. They make these statements about Christians. So I wanna cover this, something that he says I think was pretty insulting. Let's just go ahead and get into this video. Ministry of Deliverance. The biggest question that a lot of people ask and maybe you are here today from a church where miracles, deliverance, healing, all of this stuff is not practiced. We have a very simple theology. Now, as he goes, there's this thought that comes out of their mouth. I don't know if they believe this or not, but these are portals being open. They keep making this statement that people who disagree with them don't believe in miracles, don't believe in the move of God, and don't believe in demons. Of course we believe in demons. The demon of all demons, like we have the Lord of the Lord, the demon of demons is Satan. We believe in him. We believe that he exists. We believe that the other fallen angels, we believe in them as well. We believe, we don't believe in them. We believe that they're there, just like we believe angels are there. We do believe that. And we do also believe in demonic activity. We listen, we care about what the scriptures say, which is why we disagree. We know that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities. These very same principalities that you say have a legal right. Cause the question is, if they have a legal right, they've been given a legal right, implicating that they may have their legal right revoked, where would they go? Since the Bible tells us that he is going to bind the devil and that he's gonna be willing to put them into the pit. So, they can't go there yet, even though you guys are saying that you can send them there. They can't go there yet. They can't go back to where they're supposed to be at. This is, but again, I'm still trying to figure it out, but when you keep saying that we don't believe in this stuff, that's just a misrepresentation. We do believe in demonic activity. We just don't believe in the deliverance that you have. Artheology is this. I believe it's Jesus' theology. Salvation belongs to the sinners. Healing belongs to the sick. And deliverance belongs to those who have demons. As you already said, he said that deliverance belongs to those that have demons. Is that true? Does deliverance belong to, I guess, and the way he puts it is only those that have demons. Let me play that part again. I wanna back up a little bit as well. And we don't discriminate. Healing belongs to the sick. Salvation belongs to the sinners. Healing belongs to the sick. And deliverance belongs to those who have demons. And we don't discriminate. If you're a sinner, black, white, young, old, salvation belongs to you. If you are sick, healing belongs to you. And deliverance is the same thing. Can Christians have demons? That's a wrong question. Deliverance belongs to, who does deliverance belong to? We have to ask the question. And so, and Jesus made it very clear to the disciples. He didn't say to his disciples, go and cast out demons only on a particular group of people. Now initially, he did send them only to the Jewish people, but later on he sent them to everybody. It was like this, heal the sick. So who do you bring healing to? The sick. Who do you bring the gospel of salvation to? The lost. Who do you bring deliverance to? Those who have demons. Okay, so deliverance is for the demons. Well, then you would expect that when you see the word deliverance in the Bible, because there actually is a word for deliverance, Hebrew and Greek, you would think that it would be in concert. It would have to do with demons being cast out. So what I wanna do is, I just wanna put on the screen a few times where the word deliverance is brought up. And then we'll see if that, in fact, is the case. And if it's only for those with demon possession. I believe that deliverance encompasses all of that because the question is gonna be, how come? How come if deliverance, true deliverance is for those who are demon possessed? How come we don't see that sort of deliverance in the Old Testament? Meaning, why don't we see demon possession in the Old Testament? Why don't we see people being, having demons cast out of them? More to the point. Cause someone would say, well, I think that Saul had a demon. Okay, fine. How come we don't see demons being cast out of people in the Old Testament? But now, let's go ahead and look in the Bible and let's look at the word deliverance a few times that it's there. And let's see what these words mean. Let's go to, you know what? Let's start in Psalm 75, I mean 7412. He says, that yet God is my king from of old who works deeds of deliverance in the midst of the earth. Well, he's not talking about demonic deliverance, there's demons. Here's one. Oh, give us help against the adversary for deliverance by man is in vain. We are pregnant. We arrive in labor, give us, we gave birth as it seems only to win. We could not accomplish deliverance for the earth. And there's that word deliverance. Now, I want you to pay it into something. Same here, same here, same here. If we go back up, we go back up here. I want you to look at the word for deliverance. It's the same even let's just close the last one. Here's the word for deliverance. I want you guys to look over. Matter of fact, look at the bottom left hand corner. What is the word for deliverance? This is why we think that their deliverance, their take on deliverance is faulty. Does deliverance come about or does it show, especially at the beginning of the New Testament with people having demons cast out of them? Sure, we do not deny what the scriptures say. But it's going forward and what we're told to do. But the word for deliverance in the Old Testament in Hebrew, this word, if you look at the bottom left hand corner, this word right here is the word Yeshua or in this case, Yeshua. So we'll see the word Yeshua or Yeshua. Yosha, same word. Does anybody know what that, what does that sound like? Yosha, Yeshua, or Yeshua? Who is that? Who is that? Where does that, thank you, monkey moves. Thank you. That's where that, hmm. So maybe Vlad, you guys ought to start paying attention to the words that you use and then use them properly. Maybe we should start doing that since the word Yeshua or Yeshua or Yeshua means is exactly the same word for Jesus, the Lord who saves, he's our deliverer. Now, what is he coming for? Is Jesus only delivering those or bringing deliverance only to those who have a demon? No, no, before we get to that though, let's go, let's look in the Greek. The word only shows up a couple of times in the Greek. So let's look at that. Here we have an Acts 725 and he's supposed that his brethren understood that God was granting them deliverance through him, but they did not understand it. This word for deliverance right here, look in the bottom left-hand corner, is the word for Soterion, same thing in Philippians 119, for I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayers and the provisions of the spirit of Jesus Christ. And the word for deliverance, same here, let me move it a little further, the word for deliverance here, same thing, same word, Soterion or Soterion. So what does the word Soterion mean or Soterion mean? The Greek word for, and you've heard this term before, Soteriology, Soterion or Soterion means salvation. If we say Soteriology, it's a study of salvation. So what does deliverance mean? It means to be saved, to be delivered. And of course, who is the Lord who saves? None other than Jesus. And so I think it would be helpful if they understood the words that they were using. I think that would be beneficial if they understood. As a matter of fact, let me pull up something. Let me just look up something and see if this word is present in this particular passage. No, it's not, but let's just, let's look at it anyway. This is what Jesus says in Luke 4, 18. He says, the spirit of the Lord is upon me because he's anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives. Some of you all versus said the captives free and recovery of sight to the blind to set free those who are oppressed to proclaim the favorable year of the Lord. Does that sound like it's only speaking of and that could include also certainly someone who has some sort of demonic oppression? Sure, but is that all it is? No, that's a lot more encompassing. And so when he says salvation is for those that need to be saved, okay, and healing for those that need to be healed and delivered. Well, no, why don't you wrap all of those together? How about we wrap all of those together because I'm going to show, and I believe this, I think you guys do too, that when the Lord delivers, he's not here to deliver in part. He's not to deliver first your soul. And then after that, he's gonna deliver your spirit. He's not gonna deliver you from demons afterwards by the help or the aid of someone else. And then I'm gonna make something pretty poignant. I wanna make something pretty clear that I think every last one of us in either on this side of the camera or the other side can relate to. So let's go ahead and continue because he's gonna say something right here that I think is, I think it's insulting. It is insulting, matter of fact it is. This is downright insulting what Vlad is getting ready to say. He's not a shepherd who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep. Deliverance exposes hirelings. He says deliverance exposes hirelings. Deliverance exposes hireling. Vlad, what do you mean? Jesus said, how do you know a hireling from a shepherd? When warfare comes, who leaves? Who runs? Who do they run from? A wolf. Deliverance is what separates shepherds and hirelings. Let me think about this for a second. Let me, hold on. He figured this out for a second. Should we take it as though he's calling someone like myself or even you guys, someone who might be either leading a church in leadership of a church or in a plan of church, should we take that as though we're being called hirelings? The wolves come and what does he say? We run, we run from wolves. I'm not sure how I should take that. I don't think that was a compliment though. I just don't. Not sickness, not healing ministry, not the discipleship ministry. It's the wolf that exposes your true colors. So those of you or those of us who will say, I'm not comfortable with deliverance, based on God's word, I have the audacity to question the validity of your calling. All right, all right, now I'm bothered. Now I'm upset. Yeah, I'm bothered, I'm bothered. So let's go ahead and jump into this. I think when the wolf, I think that I am, I don't know who knows, but when the wolves show up, I don't think that I'm running. And I don't think folks in this chat are running. And I don't think that other people on different channels and other ministries, I don't think we're running from the wolf. I think we're running to the wolf. As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, we hear your supporters getting upset for coming after wolves. Yeah, yeah. Now I wanna say something that I think is also a little bit kinda sticking back at him. Vlad Savchuk is, I believe, from Ukraine. As a matter of fact, he went to Ukraine towards the beginning of the war. Now he didn't go into where he's fighting it. Y'all do realize there's a lot of place in Ukraine that's not in danger of being bombed or anything like that, right? Russia really could probably do a number on Ukraine, they could pretty much obliterate the place, but I don't know why they haven't. But there's places in Ukraine that you can go to, safe places, and there's places where there's early warning. We know that because the camera crews, the reporters are over there as well. But he's back over here. And I would say, since he has that ability to cast out demonic forces and so forth and even state that what's happening is demonic, why don't you go over there and cast out the Russian army? Why don't you go to Russia? But fine, fine, fine, fine. That's a little much, that's a little much. Okay, fine, fine. I know, and you know, all of you guys in the chats, that no matter where you go in America, there is a hood. There are the streets. I don't even care if you're in Idaho. There's some mean streets in Idaho. I think it is probably somewhere in Idaho. Wyoming, I'm pretty sure they got some rough size of the tracks in Wyoming. South side of Des Moines, Iowa. West side of Chattanooga. Listen, there's some bad places all over, right? There's some bad places all over. Here's what I wonder, and tell me if I'm wrong on this. I think, yeah, every Martin Luther King to your boulevard. You sure you are so right. Hold another story. But how come the only place that we ever see you guys so-called get-your-hands-dirties in the comfortable confines of the church? You will never go out. I have never wanna seen you guys cast out a demon in the hood. Why is that? Why don't you go to where it's, and by the way, there's a lot of poor Christians in the hood. How come you don't go there and cast out some of that demonic activity? 42nd post, my old stomping ground. How come you don't go there and cast out demons? How come you don't go to where it's really roughest? How come you don't go to places where there's sex trafficking going on? How come you don't go to places that why don't you go to the trap houses? Why don't you go to the places where kids are being destroyed sexually? Why don't you go there? You don't go to the worst places. You seem to be the one running from where the wolves are thickest. Is that because maybe you are correct? Maybe you are the hireling. That might be it. I'm gonna say that might be it. That might be it. Ms. Jackson, you're in prison ministry. I am thoroughly familiar with prison ministry. I know, listen, I would love to see you go up and talk to a guy with some shanks on him, ready for you to say anything disrespect. I wanna see you lay your hands on him. Matter of fact, matter of fact, can I tell you what I really wanna see you guys do? Since you guys have power and we don't understand it, you say that we're scared. I wanna see you do this. You guys are very good at this. You guys have this down pat. I would love to see one of you holy go field, anointed, sent by the Lord to bring about deliverance. I would love to see you go pull one of those lovey-alices moves. I wanna see you go blow on one of these guys. I would pay good money to see that. Am I the only ones that would love to see you go to these guys, go to the hood and blow on one of these demon possessed brothers or sisters? Yeah, wisdom tells you don't do that. Wisdom tells you, we're not in the church, these folks ain't gonna act right. Because who would've funk it? Demons don't act right, do they? Yeah, that's not gonna work out well. Some of you guys are in the New York area. This place is New York, I know, go to Philadelphia. There's some bad areas in Philadelphia where these folks are just strung out like little zombies. Go there, LA, Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Little Rock, anywhere you name it. Go blow on them, go lay your hands on them, go deliver, go deliver some people for real. Not some 21 year old white girl who has getting bad grades in college and she shows up and she goes and shaking her hair. Now I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about somebody that wants to rape somebody then cut their head off after that. Yeah, go deliver that person. That's clearly a demon. You haven't done that yet. You haven't done that yet. Somebody's getting bad grades who's getting a D in psychology. I'm not talking about her, no. Or this guy who can't decide if he should work at Starbucks or if he should work at Krispy Kreme. No, not that guy. I wanna see some true deliverance. You know the kind of deliverance that we need in this world where little kids are targeted? Yeah, where men can be women and women. I wanna see that. I think you're right though. I think you're on to something. I think you're right. I think you are a hire lady. Now he gives reasons as to why we don't do it or why we don't do it the way they do it. Why we listen to what he says because every shepherd has to be ready for a wolf. Anywhere you have sheep, you will have wolves. And every shepherd who is after the heart of David that David was the shepherd as an example that God used of God's heart. David's ministry before he fought Philistines as a shepherd, he fought lions and bears protecting his sheep. But again, if we say something that's designed at protecting the flock, we're wrong. We're wrong. And I want you to listen and just a little bit, he's gonna give us what he's telling his audience, what he's telling them as the excuse that we don't do it. Because every shepherd has to be ready for a wolf. He fought lions and bears protecting his sheep. So when a leader or a pastor uses this cheap excuse that I don't do deliverance, I don't believe in deliverance that doesn't belong in my church. According to Jesus, you are a hire lady. Okay, now I don't know the person that says the pastor says I don't do deliverance. Now, maybe what they means they don't do deliverance the way you do deliverance but every Christian ministry is about deliverance. It's just not bringing a bag in front of them and have them spit it out. It's not about laying your hands and pushing them back. No, someone says, why don't they just read the Bible? Yeah, there you go. There you go. Now, he says that the way you know that one that you're a shepherd and so forth is that and it's how you prove your love. You have to not only love the sheep, you have to prove your love for the sheep by tearing lions, bears and wolves. At some point in time, he's really just talking, right? At some point in time, he's right. Okay, you're just saying some stuff that's really all you're doing. You're just saying some stuff. What I'm saying, what the point I'm trying to make is that there is no point to be made. That's all it is. There ain't no point, quick. So he gives a couple of statements. And I wanna look at one of the statements that he's gonna bring up, he's gonna go to a scripture and I concur, I just see how he misuses this passage in terms of deliverance because he wants to paint the picture that they're strong, that they're brave, that they're not afraid and that others don't do deliverance because they are afraid of demonic activity. Well, first of all, you can't get around or away from demonic activity. As long as you live on this planet, you won't escape demonic activity or you won't rub shoulders, rub up against someone who's not going through it. You yourself might be going through it. And so I don't think it's what he's saying. Our faith in the promise, nothing by any means hurts us. We carry a spiritual umbrella. We are not even aware that we have it. Where we can do deliverance, we can pray for the sick and it doesn't affect us in that regard. Now, the only thing that ministry of deliverance will bring repercussions from is from the religious people. So, and for that, you have to have a spine and a thick skin. But they don't have a spine or a thick skin. Remember, I can't have a conversation with him or any of them because I'm blocked. I've never left a bad or negative comment on their channel. No, I've never gone on their channel and just did things ungodly or said, I just haven't. Matter of fact, I've never even left a comment or tried to on some of these channels, but I'm blocked. And I found that because I tried to go back and put one in just to see what was I blocked. Look, why am I blocked? Why am I blocked? If you're not gonna run from lions, bears and tigers and whoever else and demons and so forth, why are you running from me? That's one thing. I don't think I'm that tough. I'll take it back. Yeah, I am. Yeah, I am. I ain't gonna eat, listen. Matter of fact, can I tell you the truth? Can I tell you the truth? I've been through some things and I've seen some things. So, and I've had a kind of a tough life. Matter of fact, my cup has two. Listen, this is what I can say for a fact. I may be, maybe I don't, maybe I'm overstepping my bounds, but all of these guys, my cup's been through more than they've been through. My cup is tougher than them. So, yeah, me and this prison cup have been through and seen through a whole lot more than them. And we're not afraid. As a matter of fact, we seem to run at the wolf whereas you guys act like the wolf, well, actually the reason why you act like the wolf doesn't exist because you are the wolf. That's how I see it. I might be wrong. I might be wrong. I might be wrong. But he says, he says, we have faith. We have faith that we won't be harmed. Let's go to Luke 10, 19. Let's look at the passage. He says, now in Joppa, I'm sorry, wrong passage. Luke 10, 19, behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and nothing will injure you. Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this that the spirits are subject to you but rejoice that your names are recorded in heaven. Couple things. First of all, we believe that. First of all, I rejoice in that above everything else, that our names, my name is written in heaven. That part I do rejoice in. But more than that, and this is what we all trying to get across to everyone else is that this is the first part. We believe one of the power isn't in us but the very fact that the very fact, the very fact, and I'll go back to John 10 and 2 Samuel, but the very fact that we have the gospel, we're not afraid. We offer that up. And I'm sorry, a person that's filled with the Holy Spirit, no demon in hell can touch. No demon in hell can touch. If, and I'm saying in hell, though they're not in hell but no demon can touch. How do I know so? Because one, we've been set free. We've been set free. I do recall Jesus making this statement. Maybe my Bible is wrong. Maybe my, but you all fact check this and see if your scripture says the same thing. But he says, so if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. You will be certainly free if the Son makes you free. No, I'm not gonna scrub this cup out. No, tough cups don't need that. Just listen. I bet if I, I bet, I bet, I bet that none of these guys could cast out whatever's in this cup. I think, I bet my coffee's too strong for them to cast it out. They couldn't even turn it over. So, but if you're set free by the Spirit, then guess what you are free indeed. In all seriousness, if you've been set free, you've been set free, you are free indeed. Let's go back to that passage that he brings up John 10. He says, now this is Jesus saying that he's a shepherd. He says, I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for his sheep. He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd who is not the owner of the sheep sees the wolf coming and leaves, and the sheep, I'm sorry, leaves the sheep and flees and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. He flees because he is a hired hand and is not concerned about the sheep. I am the good shepherd and I know my own, my own, no meat. Now, first of all, the pastor's speaking about Jesus. He's not speaking about anybody else. Speaking about Jesus, not speaking about us. But I would think that we would show concern that we would show a level of love by going to find out about this teaching. I think that we show more love by saying, no, because think about it, think about it. He makes a statement, by the way. He makes a statement that, and I don't know if you all saw it earlier, that all of the people that are having demons cast out of them, most of them are Christian. Most of the people that they're seeing that he says that are having demons cast out of them are Christian. Why is that? How could that possibly be? So, which backs up my point. First of all, if this word true, it's not, but if it were true, the only place that you're doing deliverance is in church. But that literally backs up my point that you don't go to the place where it's thickest, where it's deeper, it's harder, it's hotter, it's more dangerous. You literally don't go to those places. You wanna go to a place where there's pews and a pulpit, where there's an offering plate. That's where you wanna go to. That's why you keep meeting all these Christians. And for the Christians that keep going to these places, you must be the most foolish Christians on a planet to keep going to a place. Let me ask you all a question. I could, you know what? I'm not losing my mind, guys. I don't want you to think I'm losing my mind, but this cat is in here somewhere. I don't know where he is. This office is not a big office. Where is this cat at? Maybe he jumped up there, I don't know. Don't tell me, but the cat is in here somewhere. But y'all tell me, would you keep going to the same restaurant? Oh, there he is. Would you keep going to the same restaurant that has roaches? Would you keep going to the same place that has problems after problems after problem? Every, why do you keep, why do you belong to a church? Why do you keep going to a church where everybody has a demon? If they don't have a demon this week, just stick around, next week they will. Why would you go to that church? I wanna go to, cause could you imagine if it were me, if they gave, you know, stars for churches? I don't know, do they give stars for churches? I would give a church that is constantly full of demons. I'd give them a one star. I would, you're not getting a four or five star rating? No. Well, I would go to church where the saying where the guy's being preached and you might blame the leaders, well, the pastors don't believe, cause the video that we're looking at is entitled, entitled why pastors don't do deliverance. But that's not the issue though. No, not why pastors. I think pastors would do deliverance that we see them doing if people needed it, if people were manifesting the way he's saying, but they might say, well, but that's on the pastor, the pastor's not interested in that. The pastor doesn't like that. The pastor is vehemently against that. We're gonna talk about his reasons in a second, but if I'm a pastor and I've got, I don't know, 500 members, 1,000 members, 5,000, 10,000 members, if what he's saying is correct, then surely God, somebody in my church will be manifesting, surely maybe you can convince me to not do deliverance the way he does it, but you couldn't convince people at home. Mary knows when she goes home, she's being tormented by a demon, doesn't she? Surely we don't have 5,000 people pretending like they don't really, that they don't have a demon when they really do. Surely that can't be it. We're not talking about why the pastors aren't casting demons out like that. What we're really asking is, why aren't the members not having demons manifested? Oh, maybe it's because the word of God is being preached there. Maybe the reason why at XYZ church, people aren't manifesting like that is because maybe the word of God is being preached there, but they're more concerned with people actually coming to Christ, placing their faith. Maybe they're more concerned about their souls. All you're concerned about is having a demon cast out. When these guys have their altar calls, you can have your view about altar calls one way or the other, but when they have their altar calls, their altar calls are for people to come down and have a demon cast out. Go back and watch that little farce of the thing that they had with Daniel Adam and all those guys when they said the 5,000 people are getting demons cast out. What you'll notice is, there's no offer for them to place their faith in Christ. Do that at least. Do that. In a lot of these churches, they'll have people come down to the altar. Come down to the altar if you wanna receive the Holy Ghost. They'll do that and think, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. Aren't we skipping a passage? Aren't we skipping something? Why don't we offer the opportunity for them to place their faith in Christ? Why don't we offer that? Why don't we tell them that if you place your faith in Christ, then all these other things will be dealt with. Why don't we give them Matthew chapter six? Seek first the kingdom of God and then all these other things will be added, including the things that need to go on taking away. They'll go away. Why not that? Why not give them James chapter four? Resist the devil, he will flee. James five. If anyone's suffering, let them pray. Let's call for the elders. Why not that? I'm confused. I'm confused why at your church, at your one star church, you've got nothing but demons. You got demons hanging out on the wrapper. They're just with their feet hanging, just swinging. You got demons just chilling. You got demons that open the doors for you guys. Whereas these other churches, we don't see that. Why is that? Again, forget the pastor, because if these people are being demonically oppressed, they don't come out, they're not manifesting well because these demons don't have anything to fear there. Forget it, but we're not talking about a church. Why when these people are at home because if a person is demonically possessed, did they only realize they were possessed at your church when you were preaching or were they oppressed, were they demonized six PM on a Tuesday at home? That's my only question. Why doesn't Mary and Frank and John and Bob and Sheila and Terry, all these people who come down to the altar on Sunday morning and manifest, were they not manifesting, as you say, on Saturday night? I'm trying to get an understanding. Now, the reason why I'm left to think of this because you guys blocked me, you won't talk to me. I get it. I get it because you have a lot to fear. You have a lot to fear. You have a lot to fear in regards to you being exposed. That's what, because you said you're not afraid. The only thing that you have to worry about is religious people, which you're talking about me, religious people having something to say. Okay, okay. Now I want you guys to listen to what he tells his audience the two reasons why we don't do deliverance the way they do it. And we'll talk about true deliverance in a second. Two reasons why mainly people will not do the ministry of deliverance. One is because of a negative fear that is not biblically based. You have to take that fear and throw it completely out. So people don't do the fear of what? I've never heard a person say that I disagree with deliverance because of that, because of fear, I'm afraid. And before doing deliverance, practicing deliverance, stop asking God for protection. The second part that didn't prepare us is that how many people are not gonna be happy that somebody's getting free. Now that's really satanic right there. That's really demonic when you think about it. That is demonic. That people don't want to deliverance because they're not happy seeing people set free. Really? Hmm. What he doesn't do when you go, you guys go check out the video on the Vlad Sappchex channel and look under why ministers or pastors or preachers, I forgot what it's called, don't do deliverance. He never gives an authentic reason. He never gives a biblical, he never says, well, we just have biblical or scriptural differences with you. He never says, he never says that the reason why these pastors disagree is because they have some doctrinal issues and we just disagree on that. At least be honest in that regard. He never states any doctrinal or biblical reasons why we disagree. And they certainly are reasons why we disagree. Again, I would have to ask Mr. Sappchex, how come after all of the people, groups in the Bible received the Holy Spirit, the last people who received it is in Acts 19, we don't see anyone being possessed by a demon and having a demon cast out. We never see anyone with the Holy Spirit having a demon cast out or needing to have a demon cast out and stop searching for, well, Peter had a demon when Jesus told him, you mean Peter had a demon but he never, Jesus left the demon in him, Jesus never vanquished a demon, Jesus never casted a demon out. Well, what about Paul? Paul didn't have a demon either. I mean, Paul had a demon for the rest of his life? No, let's stop with that. Let's stop with that. The Bible is clear there are. And then by the way, and I've asked him before, why don't we see Paul given any instructions or Peter or John or James or anyone giving any instructions as to cast demons out or instructions on how to? We never see that. Well, it was commonplace. No, it wasn't. Go back into the scriptures and count how many times we see demons being cast out. It's not a lot. It's not a lot, guys. Now, does that mean that there weren't a lot cast out? No, just the Bible didn't say a whole lot. It does say so. Which is another thing, is why didn't the Bible say a lot about it going forth? Well, they knew about it. It was commonplace. They already knew how to. No, these Gentiles didn't see these demons being cast out. Number one, number two, the Bible talks about prayer. Wouldn't that commonplace? So why would the Bible say something like that? It's because we have doctrinal issues and the problem is the reason why they have to say it's these other reasons because if you start dealing with the scriptural issues that we bring up, there's no way for them to deal with that. There's no way for them to get around that. And there in lies the problem. Now, he's gonna say something that I think to me is pretty blasphemous. Y'all remember this passage? Of course you do. You guys are smart Christians. You've heard this passage and you've heard it brought up by them as to how they get the power and the authority to cast out demons. But let me play this. Let me put this past on the screen. Let you guys look at the reason why because he's building something off of this. In John chapter 14, verse 12, he says, truly, truly I say to you, he who believes in me the works that I do, he will do also and greater works than these, he will do because I go to the Father. And so they're saying, they're saying that we've got this power from Christ and we can do exactly what he did, but not just the same things we can do more. Do I say that they're on the strong? You know what, that's the only thing that I do wonder. I know of people who have been part of this and they legitimately thought that this was the right thing to do. They were innocently deceived. In other words, they're doing it ignorantly. But then I also know people who do it intentionally, who know better. Now, again, I said this the other day, at some point in time, we're gonna have to expect that these people have read their Bibles. And so when they read their Bibles, and see if you're an honest broker in this, if you're an honest person and you get pushed back, if you're being honest, which goes to your motives, you would address those things. If I said, okay, I believe you cannot lose your salvation. Some people believe you can. Okay? Either I am correct in what I'm saying or I'm wrong. There's two reasons for me to hold on to this, either because I am ignorant, I just don't really know, I'm struggling to get the truth, or I know the truth and I don't care about it. I'm gonna keep preaching something that I know is false. Well, how you can know if I'm doing something intentionally is when I don't honestly deal with the actual pushback. So if I say to Isaiah, if I say to Pagani, if I say to Vlad, if I say to Daniel Adams, if I say to Mike Signorelli, if I say to Marcus Rogers, if I say to David Hernandez, these are folks that have blocked me, these are folks that put a copyright strike on me, these are folks that have come on the channel, left a message against me in support of their friends. These are people who know who I am. If they were honest, if they were genuinely concerned, they would say, let me at least address these things. Now, I know for a fact that they're all friends with Ruslan, or they're at least cordial. Ruslan has tried a few times to broker a conversation. He'd be the mediator. Now that'd be favorable for them because they know that he's not gonna go with them, like I'm gonna go with them, but he legitimately tried to broker it. He stated so. He's told me so. Pagani stated so. They just are not willing to. Marcus is not willing to. None of those folks are willing to. Now, they might do it with someone else. I don't know. Which tells me something about their motives. So the question is, do I think that they are, is this intentional? Is it purposeful? I don't know. I'm starting to think that they actually know what they're doing and that they know not that they have a strong delusion, that they are the delusion, not so much that they are deceived, but they are the ones that are doing the deceiving. Cause it's hard to turn away from all that money that you're getting. It's hard to turn away from it. It is hard. Especially when you got a lot of people who are gonna defend you tooth and nail. Someone's gonna say, well, I know I had a demon. I know, first of all, I know you don't. I don't care what your experiences were. I don't care what you feel like you were going through. The Bible tells us how we can look at these things. And so, yeah, you may have felt like you had a demon, but no, what it really was was this. You were going through something and someone gave you an excuse. It's almost like I'm not trying to mess with anybody. I'm not bowling down anybody's late intentionally, but if you're overweight, well, we big-boned it in my family. Heftiness runs in my family. No pig feet, camel backs, bird knuckles, all that unhealthy food that you eat. That's what runs in your family and you keep eating that stuff without exercising and also laying around. That's what, yeah, no system is big-boned. So, yeah, that's not a demon. That's you. We don't accept responsibility. We don't change our, we don't allow our minds to be changed. We don't work. We fight against it. And then we say that, oh, here's an easy out. It's a demon. And because we're in a place where we see other people acting crazy, manifesting, so to speak, well, that's what we're supposed to do. Same thing happens in a Pentecostal charismatic church where you go up and you are legitimately searching. You really wanna move the spirit and your hands are up. You're like, Lord, I want you. I want all of you, all of this, whatever it is. I'm serious. And then someone touches your head and it felt like somebody, he didn't push me very hard. He didn't push me very hard, but I'm already ready. I'm already ready. And if you just touch me, or as they do now, they don't just touch you. They just kind of just, you know, hi-ya-ya. And then what do you do? You fall over. You fall over. Cause guess what you don't have behind your heels? You know what you don't have behind your heels? Some feet going that way. So it's easy for you to fall over. Or it can be one of those situations where like at a concert, you just overcome with emotion and you just faint. That happens too. That happens too. But I wanna get to something that I think is a bit blasphemous. And I want you all to hear, I want you guys to tell me what you think. If you think that this is a bit blasphemous. Remember, we're piggybacking off of this thought that we can do great things. Not just great things, the same great things that Jesus did. And doing greater. And so is that true? Can we do what Jesus did? Well, the work that he's speaking of, the air God, the work that he's talking about is the work that he came to do to preach deliverance, to set the capitals free. We notice that as the gospel. But listen to this. You guys tell me, is it just me or is this a bit blasphemous? A father doesn't try to tell his son, I'm better than you. Every father finds pride in his son being better than him. True father actually will expect his son never to be less than the father. And to be higher and go more. And he finds security in that because he loves and he treasures his sons. I don't know if you caught that. I don't know if you guys caught that. Cause I don't, hold on. Let me drink some of my tough coffee out of my tough cup. I don't know if you caught that. I must play this again. See if you catch what he's saying. We're piggybacking off of John 14. Listen to what he says again. A father doesn't try to tell his son, I'm better than you. Every father finds pride in his son being better than him. True father actually will expect his son never to be less than the father. And to be higher and go more. And he finds security in that because he loves and he treasures his sons. We're nowhere in no way shit from fashion gonna be better than anybody that we're not better than Jesus. Is that what you're getting at? That a true father expects us to be better than or expects his sons to be better and do better. Again, that seems like he's piggybacking off of John 14 which we know they believe that we're supposed to be the same from that Jesus did and greater works. And they don't talk about volume. We know what to mean volume. More of us doing the works that Christ came to do because there's more of us with the Holy Spirit. And so we're not just located in Jerusalem or Capernaum or Nazareth, we're all over. But this, he seems to be saying that we are going to, that the father wants us to be and do better. His, is it just me? Maybe it's just me. The video's only like 20-something minutes long. You guys go back and check it out and see if you come up with the same thing, but no, no, I'm sorry. No, that's wrong. Now, for those of you who are joining in who never heard me say this, and oh, by the way, it's not just me. It's not just me that says this. I don't care who your favorite sound preacher is, they believe the same thing. We believe that true deliverance comes as a result of placing your faith in Christ because as a result of that, you have the Holy Spirit. The Bible says greater is he that's in me, that's the spirit that's in me than he that's in the world. The he that's in the world is not in me, he's in the world. And we believe that when the spirit is in you, then the two will not share the same place. First John chapter five verse four says this, for whatever is born of God, y'all do realize that's us. If we're safe, we are born of God. Whoever's born of God overcomes the world. This word right here for overcome, that's us. We have overcome the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world. Wait a second, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. I saw something the other day. I thought it was pretty cool. I thought it was pretty cool. I saw a guy shoot a three-pointer from almost half court. Almost half court. Miguel, thank you for the super chat. Almost half court. As he shot it, the ball didn't even reach the apex of its arc. He turned around and started running back cause he says, you know what, that's good. That's good. That shot's good. My main man, Reggie Miller used to shoot a shot. As he shoot, he would turn around and face it. He would look at the opponent's bench and jog back looking at them while the ball was going in. Yeah, this is that shot. This right here is me or anyone else. You all have to say, listen, we all have the same scripture. I don't have this Bible, these words in my Bible and you don't know, you got the exact same thing. Let's all shoot this shot at them and let's see what it says. He says, for whoever is born of God, that's us. We overcome the world. He says, and what is the victory? This is the victory, the victory of those who overcome the world. What is the victory? Look what he says. Oh, our faith. Our faith. Our faith is what causes us to be, wait a second. You mean to tell me it's not you blowing on me? It's not you putting your hands on me? It's not you tossing oil on my face? It's not you shouting at me? It's not me having to burp up or cough up or spit up something? It's not that? I'm an overcomer because of my faith. Wow. I think that's pretty cool. Hey, Vlad, how about we preach that? What if we just preach what the Bible says? What if we do that? You mean tell me, first John who walked with Christ, John could have easily have said we're overcome. Listen, we can be overcomers if we get full deliverance. Maybe when you keep saying that most of the people that you run into that are having to go through deliverance, if they're Christian, maybe they weren't Christian. Maybe that, you know what, Regina, dog going, Regina, if Vlad owned a YouTube, he would ban you. Yeah, that won't make Vlad any money. That's absolutely correct. That won't make them any money. That no, no, no, Regina. Yeah, you know what, I'm almost tempted to ban you for his sake, but you tell the truth. You have told the truth. You can't make money off that. You can't pimp the gospel like that or pimp these unsuspecting people. There are people who are legitimately deceived and if you're the one that's doing it, God is gonna deal with you. God is gonna deal with you. But John went a step further. John didn't just say in verse four what he just said, John also said, he also says in verse 18, he says, we know that no one who was born of God, well, again, who's born of God? Us. We're born of God. So none of us who are born of God, he says sins, and this is a pattern I'm sending, but he who was born of God keeps him. And the evil one, look what he says, the evil one does not touch him. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that these demons are in cahoots with the evil one speaking of. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that and say that John just said that we're not getting touched like that. And we just call us overcomers. Matter of fact, in Revelation, that same John is saying is he calls us overcoming. He used the present active parts of the meaning that that's what we are. That's the state that we're in. We are overcomers. Not that we will become overcomers. No, this is who we are. This is what we do. My mother asked me one day, when I was a little boy, I used to pee in the bed. Don't trip, cause I know some of you guys used to pee in the bed too. I wasn't the only one that wet the bed. But that was my thing. I don't know why it was, but that was my thing. And my mother asked me, she said, Cory, how come you keep peeing in the bed? I said, my mess was what I do. I wet the bed. Ain't nowhere around it, mom. I wet the bed. You know what we do? We're overcomers. It's just what we do. We are, listen, it is naturally a part of our DNA. Let me just say this real quick. I'm gonna go ahead and get me in order one of these days just so I can get Pentecostal Charismatic up in this place one day. But let me just tell you guys this as we get ready to go out of this place victoriously overcoming. Do you know that we've got this new nature? Yeah, Paul says it this way. If anyone be in Christ, he's a new creature. Do you know what comes as a result of that? What comes as a result of this new nature? This divine order. You wanna hear something prophetically? Prophetically speaking, we have been empowered, not by me and my voice, but by the Lord to cause us to be overcomers. How do I know? First Peter puts it this way. He says that the spirit has caused us to be born again, born of him. And if we're born of him, born again, that means we're born of God. And those that are born of God are overcomers. So we are naturally overcomers. If you are an overcomer, how in the world are some two-bit devil who's on his way to hell touched that? How is it that some Johnny come later who just started reading the Bible from Ukraine who gets here, who's been anointed by Benny and tell you otherwise? Can't happen. You are a natural overcomer. It is what you do is who you are. And so because of that, because of that, you don't have to fear. This is the confidence that we have. By the way, I think Paul was alluding to this as well. It's all-encompassing that he, God, who began a good work in us, in me, you, everybody else that we know who's been born of God, that is indeed, if you've been born of God, he is going to accomplish. He's gonna finish the work that he started. You know why? Not because I'm so faithful. I've placed my faith in him and then he does the rest of the work. He has decided he's gonna finish it. You know what else he says? Paul tells us that he's given us the seal of the Holy Spirit. Let me explain to you guys what this seal is. Let me explain to you guys what this seal is. Yeah, I'm gonna stop eating pork. No, I'm just kidding. I'm about to eat me a bacon, I'm eating me a bacon-wrapped, chitlin' sandwich in a second. Anyway, but let me tell you, let me just tell you, and you just threw me off. Oh, go on, you threw me off. Now you got me thinking about bacon. Now you got me thinking about bacon. I bind you in the, I rebuke you. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But when Paul said, matter of fact, you know what I have to do? I have to put it on the screen. Let's go to Ephesians, chapter one. I wanna explain this to you because I probably haven't done a good enough job doing this. Verse 13, chapter one, he says, in him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, after listening to the message of truth. There you go, Regina, putting bacon on the screen. After listening to the message of truth. What is he referring to? Our faith, after us placing our faith in him. Remember, he calls that, but we don't wanna get on that right now. But after our faith, you know what happens? Look what he says. He says, having also, you believe, the gospel of truth, your salvation, having also believe, this word is, pistol usentas, usentase, which is an eras active participle, meaning you have, you started in the past, this process of believing. You're gonna keep believing. So, and what did John say? Causes us to be overcomers, our faith. So the same faith that we have, remember, the Bible knows with no Christian who does not keep believing. And because of that, look what he says. The next part, after believing, he says, you were sealed. Can I just explain to y'all what this being sealed is? Remember when Jesus was put in the tomb and the Roman guards put a seal around the rock. Wasn't the rock that the seal was super glue? No, that it was duct tape, super, super infused, pig, pork infused duct tape? No, that's not what it was. It was a statement of protection. If anyone messes with this right here, you got us to deal with. Same thing here. You can't be messed with because of this seal that the Holy Spirit is on you. You know who can't mess with you. This is why the Bible keeps making this point clear because you have this seal on you, which is the Holy Spirit who is a guarantee, a deposit until when. It's not like this seal has a sale by date. It's not like this seal is ever gonna expire. And look what he says. He says you've been given this seal as a pledge when of our inheritance with a view of redemption of God's own possession to the praise of his glory. This is there forever until we receive it. Thank you, Brittany. So this seal, this protection is heaven saying to anybody else. You can't mess with him. That's the whole point of these seal. Now we may not get it. Us fallible human beings, we don't get it. We don't understand it. But do you know who doesn't get it? The devil. Now, does that mean they're not gonna do anything to you? They won't try anything? They will. Peter tells us as such. But whatever they can and can't do is only guided by the will of God. God determines how much you can and can't do. Don't believe me as a joke. And so guess what you won't do? You won't thwart us like they would have you believe. Again, maybe the problem is maybe all these folks that are getting delivered at these churches, maybe what you ought to do is go find your different church. Go find you a different church. Go find your place where the words of God is being preached and people are being set free without falling out and you don't see Mary having to go to the altar every other week to be delivered. Maybe you ought to switch where you're getting fed at. Maybe the place that you're frequent in the restaurant that you're eating from maybe you ought to go somewhere different. Lucky by God, thank you for the super chat. Maybe that's what you ought to do. You know why I say so? Because going to Vlad's church, going to Marcus's church, going to Pagani's church, going to Isaiah's church, going to Daniel Adams church, going to now Greg Locke's church, going to these churches, ain't working, ain't working. So maybe, maybe, maybe you ought to change what you're doing. Maybe you ought to do this for the very first time because I would imagine you haven't done so yet. Maybe you just been kind of, you know, walking around the outskirts of salvation. Maybe you've been kicking the tires. Maybe you've been saying to yourself, well, I got this going on. I got to get this taken care of. Maybe if you just do what Jesus asked you to do, what we know to do, sincerely place your faith in Christ. And now here's the big problem. And we're going to cover this tomorrow in a big way. But I mean true faith. This faith that brings about this peace, that surpasses all understanding. This faith that believes that he will, he has, he can, and he will deliver me. Because as we saw earlier, he is the deliverer. He is Yeshua. He's a Josiah. He is Hatteria. He is the one that saves. It's literally his name, the Lord who saves. Whether it's the English Jesus, whether it's Joshua, whether it's the Greek Jesus, whether it's the, the Hebrew Yeshua. It all means he's the Lord who saves. So why don't you, if you want true deliverance. Every time that I've dealt with someone in the streets, with me in my tough cup, in prison, these folks that were going through something, it's all we ever did. Now I put my hand on them, not to shake them or cast them, I put my hand on them just to comfort them, let them know, hey man, I'm here with you. And all we ever said to them, if you want to be made whole, if you want peace in your life, the kind that you've been searching for, you've gone to all these different places, all you have to do is place your faith in him and then watch him do the rest. If you do that, I'm gonna go out on a limb. If you do that, I promise, if you place your faith in him, you will be delivered. Amen.