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El israelí tiempo ha sido una hora regular para Hamas para enviar misiles, ropas, a Israel. Bueno, aún con nosotros es Robert Swift, nuestro correspondiente. Acerciéndome es la reserva de la IDF de la Comunidad de Israel, Olivia Raffowitz, la persona de la persona de la Comunidad Internacional para la IDF. Y el Ambassadors de Daniel Scheck, director de la diplomacia para la asociación y la misión de las familias de la forum. Y el former israelí ambasador de la Francia también. Y Olivia, quiero empezar con ese comentario de Galán hoy, con muchas redes sociales. Mira, es entendible. La IDF tiene que mover muy deliberado aquí. We saw the importance of that. Yesterday, nine Israelis just killed in one conflict. The dangers posed by the tunnels has to be dealt with slowly and cautiously, both for the sake of soldiers, but also for the sake, potentially of hostages that could be in them. Israel has a daunting task in southern Israel. The defense minister, Galán, saying, this could take more than several months. Maybe help clarify that, it's hard to imagine this, lo que vamos a hacer en los últimos dos meses, 400.000 reservas que han tomado la evacuación de los israelíos de 100.000 israelíos desde el norte y el sur de Israel, aumentando la presión diplomática más, incluso desde hoy, y vamos a discutir eso, con Jake Sullivan aquí, que está hablando de este tipo de campaña estrenando, qué, un año, más de hace varios meses. Buenas noches, y muchas gracias a Eugenio Mejera en el estudio. Cuando vas a una guerra, una guerra que ha sido impulsada por Anais de Hamas, nunca sabes cuando terminas la guerra. O sea, terminamos la guerra cuando los retrasos están achievidos. Aquí tenemos dos retrasos para lograr. Uno, el relicio de los estados, los que quieren volver a casa, por todo el término, todo el término militar, estrictamente el término militar o por otros términos. Y el otro es para destruir, eliminar, erradicar, las capacidades militar de Hamas dentro del Gazzastre. Ahora mismo, tienes un aluncio en el sur de Israel. Los estados han sido lanzados de Gaza a las comunidades civiles, lo que significa que Hamas no es ahí. En spite de la factura que estamos y te mencionaste que ayer perdimos 9 soldados y hoy... 10, 9 en una batalla. Sí, debería poder verlo. Sí, por supuesto, en la batalla. Y hoy, sabemos que 8 soldados han sido muertes, mal muertes y otros han sido muertes durante el combate contra Hamas. Se mostrará que la guerra no es suave. Y algunas personas o algunos estados están preguntando a nosotros para ir rápido o para ir rápido. Es, tal vez, un deseo muy bonito pero no fita la realidad. La realidad es que tenemos que continuar a combattir y destruir Hamas o, si Hamas decide surrender sin ninguna condición, ir rápido, sin ninguna condición para que la guerra contra Israel quiera, entonces la guerra será suave. Pero no es el caso ahora. Right. Daniel, Mr. Bassiter, todo lo que Colonel Raphwood dice hace sentido de un punto militar. Y, por supuesto, tiene que tener en cuenta las vidas de sus soldados, las vidas, como decimos, de los asesinos, los nombres. Pero hay una realidad diplomática y política también. Es difícil imaginar, a ese nivel, simplemente decir que la guerra será continuada en más de varios meses para lograr esos nombres. Cuando sabemos que hay un window diplomático y políticamente para el gobierno, para el presidente Netanyahu y, también, económico y social para la sociedad israelí. Hay otras constracciones de la guerra contra el militar. Sí. Entonces, claramente, desde el punto de vista del ministro de Defensa, hace sentido que debería hablar de esa manera. Pero mi amigo Olivier Raphovich sabe que la vida es un poco más complicada, a veces, y no puedes siempre funcionar en un ambiente ideal. Y, como mencionaste, no es solo la situación diplomática. Sufríe de ver la cara de Jake Sullivan cuando estaba escuchando a esta sentencia. Se pareció flabegastante. Se pareció en shock. Pero esto no es el único constrante. Creo que lo que podría ser un más grande constrante sería la economía. La situación, como dijiste, de las cientos de militares de israelíes que no pueden volver a sus hogares. Sí, son refugios internos. Sí. Even today, there was already talk of a huge hole in the national budget because of loss of revenue, because of slow down of the economy, etc. This is not something that you can keep up for, as he said, more than several months. So there will have to be some kind of, not re-evaluation of the objectives, but how to get there. Maybe you will have to set a target for a year or two years from now without keeping the intensity that we have today. Right. I also wanted, Olivier, there was another announcement that I was struck by today by the IDF of 500 airstrikes being carried out by the Israeli Air Force across Gaza just in this week. This coming just as questions are being raised, whether the IDF can continue the level of airstrikes and sustained until now. For example, pressure from the United States to limit civilian casualties causing great deal from those airstrikes. We heard even President Biden say, talk about using the phrase indiscriminate airstrikes, which was quite surprising. John Kirby, the National Security Spokesman, walking that back a bit. Let me ask you that even going beyond where the war could go from here, are there limitations being placed on the IDF now due to either diplomatic considerations or the bigger strategic considerations involved in fighting this conflict with Hamas? I will be very clear. The only limitation that we can talk about is the limitation to destroy and to eliminate Hamas. When Hamas is eliminated, it is the limit of the game, the game 4 actually. Right now we are continuing to do what we must do. It is to continue to use all the military capability of the IDF, air force, artillery and ground forces, special forces to go everywhere in the Gaza Strip. Now we are fighting right now in Jabalia, in Sejaia, in the northern part of Gaza. Right now our first fight in Hanyunes, around Hanyunes and inside Hanyunes and the troops are actually revealing and discovering new tunnels, new entries of tunnels we are destroying, terrorists, dozens of them within the tunnels by different means, by new means and use right now. The aerial campaign is still used but at the end of the day, in order to eliminate the terrorists within the house, within the compound, within the place where he is trying to hide himself from the IDF, we have to go with the boots on the ground, with the boots on the ground, wherever we need to go and we eliminate them. Just one point if I may. You know, it's better to use only the air force because then you spare the infantry people not to go in... Right, there were some comments yesterday after the incident. But you know, these people don't understand that in this kind of war against terror you need to go exactly in every point, in every corner of all these points to kill them. Okay, hold on. Let me have the Benny Gantz speaking. Let's take a lesson. We are on behalf of and due to the combatants. Because of the murderers of Hamas, we went to wage this war. We are fighting on behalf of those who were murdered and the Israeli legacy. We are winning credits to the combatants, the fallen and the injured the survivors of the massacre the combatants and the hostages that will come back and all our brothers in Israel right or left religious, secular, Jews, Druze and Arabs. Together we are going to enhance the light. The IDF forces are in the deeper area of Gaza which is now expanding as a political as an honest to enable the combatants to continue and complete the mission in the south as well as in the north in order to bring back the hostages and to enable the inhabitants to live safely. For this we have to preserve the legitimacy and freedom of action and to plan the continuous war where we are not going to just end with quiet versus quiet. In this war there is no day after there is a long process difficult and necessary with a different strength during month and days and years. The role of the government is to tell the public what will happen and to go there without creating imaginary controversies while our soldiers are fighting shoulder to shoulder in the battle field. The basis that will enable safety for civilians in the south is agreed upon by the Israeli society and even our American partners. So what, yes Hamas is part of the Iranian axis and wants to destroy us and to stop the normalization we have to change the situation and cause the opposite to eliminate the threat of Hamas to strengthen the ties with moderate Arab countries and to find the framework for solution in Gaza. In the military aspect south and part of Gaza we will have full military control on the area including territory that will enable us to continue. Israel is going to control militarily will have a freedom of action and will implement it as much as is needed. Chanyunis and Sajaria is going to be exactly like the Kazba in Nablus. As far as the civil aspect we have to locate the local people who can deal with the medicine with civilian issues to create an administration that will be supported by moderate Arab countries and the most important thing is we have to start the momentum of normalization and do it in order to change the reality in Gaza even in the long run. We met today with the national security advisor Jake Sullivan and I spoke personally with a lot of leaders in America and in Europe they are interested to advance such a process and to invest the necessary means it is obvious to us and to our partners that these old concepts and the reality of the former decades have to change we are in the beginning of the process and it's going to take years the principles the framework and the modus operandi are quite obvious this is a time to work with our partners in a closed room with full trust and also to thank them for their support and the efforts that they make to release their hostages I'd like to appeal to our American friends in English we are partners by duty and friends by choice this is what my friend General Martin Dempsey once told me these words are more meaningful now than ever Israel is thankful for your continuous support during these difficult times citizens of Israel the most important thing at this time is to win this war and to maintain the security of Israel and for that it's important that the unity of the people the tailwind to the combatants returning of the hostages and making the right decisions militarily and civilly unfortunately even in these days some people are creating imaginative controversies and harming the important relations with the United States we are not going to do that during a war my colleagues and I will continue to act with national responsibility will support the soldiers and the commanders will make sure that the right decisions are made we will deal with communities and will act only for the interests of the people of Israel and before I conclude even today the hearts of 135 families whose loved ones are in Gaza some people claim that the miracle in the Hanukkah festival is that the oil was suffice for 8 days but without the heroes who believed in the temple miracle would not have happened these heroes are our combatants today these are the families who don't stop acting for the release of their loved ones we are not going to stop looking to believe and to act in order to bring back the hostages we will never stop striving for unity in the people of Israel and to stand together in a common fate of all of us thank you Karen from the news channel you are not calling upon the Palestinian authority to take upon itself the responsibility as the president Biden is against this idea and what about the head of the Mossad en order to advance the hostage deal which was cancelled I think that we have to look at the Gaza Strip in a responsible way, looking to the future we must preserve supremacy and flexibility and continuity of our attacks in Gaza as much as we think in the way we will have to do it in the future and the growth of local administration with regional backing in our security that's the direction we have to go in I think other things at the moment are irrelevant I think we have to focus on that on the process the discussions in the cabinet, the war cabinet in all the subjects including the MIAs and the hostages which is so important to us is done professionally General Mossad Alon and the head of the Mossad have conversations with the prime minister nobody stops anybody to talk to anybody no manipulations everybody goes to the same direction and I suggest don't catch a word here and a word there and make it the whole thing the hostages home all of them and as fast as possible thank you channel 11 you have great criticism today are you going to see you in the government regarding the budget I think the budget that passed today is important because 2023 I don't think they made the right deviations because of the needs of the state of Israel at this time I heard somebody say that they're talking about small change but if this is small change why are you so insistent why don't you send it to the place where it's needed therefore we acted as much as we can and we objected and voted against their budget unfortunately somebody tried to do a put forward the voting but never mind I am focused on the things that Israel needs will try to have an impact because of the continuous of the war and the budget in the future I'm not dealing now about a stopwatch about how long I'm here and when I'll be here I'm here because of the common fate of the people of Israel I understand the security needs and as I said in the past automatically I knew when to get in maybe less automatically but I'll also know when to get out we just heard Benny Gantz of course former defense minister and chief of staff member of the war cabinet give gentlemen I think you agree with me a very interesting speech this evening first of all some of his sharpest criticism peers of his fellow members of the government saying is not to create imaginary controversy specifically with the United States that seems to be perhaps directed certainly against some members of the government perhaps prime minister Netanyahu he also spoke about the day after about arrangements in Gaza stripped in a detail we haven't seen before talking about already in northern Gaza setting up some kind of civil administration using local figures or residents there act by some employing perhaps other countries in the region and also telling remark where he said that Israel has to maintain its freedom of action within the Gaza strip military action as it does the Kazba in Nablus which of course is controlled currently by the Palestinian authority so he seems to be holding that as a model first of all Danny your reaction to these remarks I think there is a lot of fiscal pressure on Benny Gantz in the last few weeks a lot of pressure from people who are in his camp saying that this unity war cabinet has maybe done its job and he should resign and not over the war over the budget over the budget which he referred to in a question some of that money going to actually is not going to do that he doesn't wish to resign but I think he's reacting to that and showing that he's trying to show that he's making a difference and that it's in a sense better to have him inside than outside because he's sort of the reasonable adult in the war cabinet so I think that's the general tone of what he's talking about he wants to be reasonable also vis a vis the Americans which also means that he speaks a little bit about the day after this is something the Biden administration wishes to do and is trying to pressure Prime Minister Netanyahu to do and he's not amiable to that at all for the moment so I think that's basically the motivation to try and draw some kind of line of differentiation between himself and the other members of the war cabinet right Olivier I don't know how much you could comment on this Jake Sullivan now reports coming about of that meetings that he's held with Prime Minister Netanyahu and also with the Defense Minister Joff Garland supposedly urging them to wrap up the high intensity fighting in Gaza within weeks that's the thing now the strategic goals remain eliminating Hamas but the question is could there be a change, a tactical change in how the idea approaches that different from what we've seen over the past two months now moving forward or certainly moving beyond say that's period after the next couple of weeks you see in either we are democracy and we depend on the political echelon if the government or the war cabinet decide any change of military policy or move the Israeli army will of course do what the political echelon ask us to do right now the two goals are still the same eliminate Hamas and release the hostages according to what has been decided at the political echelon at the war cabinet so for now I would not elaborate or comment more on that clearly I mean it's understandable that Olivier can't go beyond that wearing the uniform and I think that's the way things should do also in the democracy the army represents fully the positions of the government but I think that reading between the lines will bring you to a conclusion that there is possibly some kind of negotiation going on with Jack Sullivan saying quite bluntly apparently I mean it hasn't been announced but leaked he's talking about a few months a few weeks until the end of the year more or less maybe a couple of weeks beyond that and you have Gallant talking about months so you know there'll be some kind of compromise Daniel Roberts stay with us Colonel Raffowitz thank you for joining us we are going out for a brief break we'll stay with us with more on our coverage on I-24 news a state of war families completely gun down in their beds we have no idea where she is our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well coverage on I-24 news earlier today Israeli Foreign Minister Ali Kohn El Basso met with the president of the Red Cross Mariani Spoliaritz in Tel Aviv now she is now meeting with representatives of the families with members hold hostage by Hamas now Kohn in their meeting reiterated Israeli criticism of the aid organization saying the Red Cross has failed in its mission to reach the abductees deliver proof of life check their condition and provide them with essential medicines and here is one of the hostage family representatives had to say earlier outside of that meeting between the Red Cross Head and Foreign Minister Kohn look I think I don't think that anybody in the Red Cross is less interested in knowing how these people are being handled I think that we need to remember that the bad guys in here is Hamas and we can only hope that it will help I want to hope that having the president of this organization coming here is a good sign and still with us studio our car is Bonnet Robert Swift an ambassador Daniel Sheck former Israeli ambassador of France and director of diplomacy for the hostage and missing families forum and Daniel let's talk about the Red Cross because we have seen this evening in the Calden Hotel in Tel Aviv the first real meeting between the Red Cross international Red Cross president and the families of the hostages who have been very critical of the effort or maybe more accurately lack of effort they see in the Red Cross trying to even make any kind of contact or get any information or proof of life of their loved ones in Gaza well I must say that Zora Vigdori who we heard speak on behalf of the people of the families who participated in that meeting was very untypically restrained diplomatic which is usually more you are yes and it's really not typical for him he's a fantastic guy but he's very motivated but I you know the bottom line he's right the real bad guys in this story is Hamas still there is a lot of frustration with the Red Cross because again the bottom line is that they didn't do their job now maybe it's not entirely their fault maybe there's nothing else that they can do but the bottom line is that over two months have gone by since the abduction of 250 Israelis into the Gaza Strip and they have been unable to make contact with them to even get a reliable list of these people and their physical and health condition so there is understandable frustration among the families in some cases a lot of anger I must say that the president of the Red Cross in the last week or two has handled this story miserably she was in Gaza a week ago instead of coming straight to Israel and trying to explain what she saw there what she said there listen to the other side she went back home came back a week later honestly I don't understand the logic in this I think there should have been a sort of uninterrupted effort that she showed here but she did come here for a shortened visit for no reason for no fault of hers there were problems at Geneva airport but she did manage to to have her meetings and it's important that she heard first hand from the families right I just want to clarify for the first time I must say the families went to Geneva already but I think I just I do want to clarify of course Hamas is the villain here and I'm not wanting to understand about that the Red Cross has not been able to access them because Hawass but there are many things the Red Cross could have done they could have met earlier with the families of the Hossages they were talking about getting medical records from them I've spoken to Hossage families they said they've had no one from the Red Cross they could have made more public comments drawing attention themselves and making demands of the Red Cross and you also just spoke about the actions of the Red Cross president so no one it's understandable the ultimate goals but it's an apparent lack of effort and empathy that seems to be here I agree I mean I agree there was a lot of clumsiness and I don't think it was bad will I think what Zoll said is true I don't think that there was any premeditated intention to to harm but there was a lot of clumsiness alright now we've been mentioning Jake Sullivan in his meetings Prime Minister Netanyahu he's going to be meeting all members of the war cabinet including Benny Gantz who we just saw give a press conference here is what Prime Minister Netanyahu had to say releasing a statement after he met with National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan I met with Jake Sullivan the US National Security Advisor I deeply appreciate US support for Israel by supplying the IDF with ammunition by blocking UN attempts to stop the fighting and by assisting the effort to bring back our hostages let me be clear bringing back our hostages is a main objective for us including right now I told our American friends our warrior heroes did not die in vain our deep pain and grief makes us more determined than ever to continue fighting until the elimination of Hamas until absolute victory until the elimination of Hamas sort of like a pro-former I think statement expressing thanks for your support but in no way getting Netanyahu the substance of the issues that he might have discussed which we know he discussed with Jake Sullivan yeah indeed I think the Prime Minister is looking to essentially create a message that he's continuing with the job at hand essentially the military is going to continue doing what it's doing and he's going to likewise do the same I think it probably makes sense for him to wish to to put some distance between his position and that of the Minister Gantz who touched on the politics I think it's a little bit like what we were talking about earlier as this war continues more and more the politics starts to bubble up to the surface Right and also diplomacy starts to bubble up different diplomatic approaches Well he has a balancing act with the Americans with Jake Sullivan on the one hand he doesn't agree obviously with the the message that the National Security Adviser has brought with him from Washington on the other hand he needs to continue and express the gratitude, the appreciation for the level the amazing level of involvement and support of the United States so that's basically the job he has and I do have to point out that he's back to pre-recorded messages no press conferences anymore but you know maybe maybe because the questions are going to start getting a little more pointed about some of the as he said the politics or diplomacy not just the military campaign in Gaza now we've been talking about the hostages in relation with meeting with the hostage families I should say meeting with the head of the Red Cross or U.S. President Joe Biden himself met yesterday in the White House with representatives of the families of Israelis being held hostage in Gaza afterwards the president tweeted I reassured them that I will continue doing everything possible to secure the release of their family members now among those who took part in that meeting was Jonathan Dekel Chen Gigi went missing and is presumed taken hostage in Tegasa after fighting off Hamas terrorists at Kibbutz near Oz on October 7 his mother Naomi was also injured in that attack she just managed to escape the terrorists you can say at the last moment while she was being inducted while joining us now from Washington is Jonathan Dekel Chen Jonathan thank you for joining us first of all excuse me what can you tell us about that meeting yesterday. Well, I could tell you that it was an extraordinary moment. I think for all of the hostage families would gather there and keep in mind that Secretary of State Lincoln was also at the meeting. And for the better part of two hours and the leaders of the free world sat in the spoke with us and listen to us a great deal. They were as transparent as they could be and made it very clear we knew this in advance but really made it clear in a firm that they are in this fight for the long haul the fight meaning getting all of the hostages out not just the remaining eight American Israelis but all 138 and they will they are doing and will continue whatever is in their power to get the hostages back home. Okay, that was the message the president had for you and maybe Secretary Blinken. What was the message that you had for him speaking or that I'm when I say you I mean the hostage families, the representatives there, including yourself. Well, first it was a message of gratitude to be completely honest. I mean, keep in mind that from two or three days after the massacre on October 7 agencies multiple agencies of the US government, including President Biden himself have been infrequent and transparent contact with us all of the American hostage families and we see that how instrumental the US government has been in facilitating beyond its frequent contact with us in facilitating that first round of hostage releases, which brought in my case 30, a bit more than 30 hostages from your own back home and they while it's not my son's again. These are all people who are like my extended family and women and children. So it's enormous gratitude and really we made it clear to the president that we are also partners in the efforts that the United States is making. That's what I can share about the content of the meeting. Right. I want to get I just I just I want to just come back to you for a minute because you know the president of the Red Crypt, the National Red Cross. I think right at this very moment is having her first meeting with also other members of representatives of the of the hostage families. There's been a lot of criticism by not even the I would say even the efforts of the Red Cross, not even just what they've achieved, but even the effort. Sagi, I think it was reported that he took part in the defensive near ours. It could have been wounded there. The failure of the Red Cross to even attain any information about the condition of those hostages. Never mind even proof of life. So I just want to get your response to that and what you may have to say on that regard, especially to the International Red Cross. Well, I think any clear minded person understands that there's been an enormous failure here by the International Committee of the Red Cross. It is their job and they have an international mandate and it was part of that first agreement on the first part that first wave of hostage releases for them to go into Gaza, from us control Gaza, obviously, and get proof of life. What we've heard up to now from the degree that they've been communicating with us is that Hamas is not allowed to to go and visit any of the houses. To what degree the Red Cross has the ability to force Hamas to allow this to happen. I can't say what I do know is that if they indeed are unable by any creative means the Red Cross to obtain signs of life to deliver desperately needed medical aid to what we suspect are almost all of us is those were wounded in those events that are starving in those that are not the older folks and perhaps younger folks as well. We're not receiving their medical treatment. If in fact they cannot do it the Red Cross, then they should shout it out. Shout it out to the heavens. Let the world know in no uncertain terms that Hamas is not allowing the Red Cross to visit with our hostages and to put the blame publicly on Hamas because it is utterly outrageous the Red Cross. Okay, on the one hand has been unable or isn't putting enough effort into seeing the hostages, but even more so that they are saying nothing about it in any public serious way. So as far as I'm concerned it's one of the other either go see the hostages if you can and if not let the world know that Hamas is preventing you from doing job. Right, that's what's kind of missing that expressing that viewpoint more vocally as much as they do about the humanitarian situation in Gaza as well. Finally I do want to ask you there has been growing discussion here in Israel public discussion about the Israeli government's approach to the hostage issue about prioritizing perhaps one goal of this conflict freeing the hostages with the one of destroying Hamas, whether enough efforts are being made to seek some kind of further hostage release via Qatar. These are all very difficult and complicated questions. I'm just going to just generalize and just ask you what would you like to see the government, the Israeli government doing in this situation that either it's not doing or that it's doing or that it's efficient, but you would like to see doing more. And it's not my job to give policy recommendations to the government about this or anything else. What I can say and what I will say is that our government our government in Israel needs to do whatever it can and must get all of the hostages all alive. I can certainly speak for those hostages who were taken from the border people's team that we were utterly abandoned by the country and by the army on October 7th. And I mean I might give us alone. Every experience was a bit different. The army arrived an hour to an hour and a half after the terrorists were already gone. And there is no moral ground on which this government can stand that does not bring with it a moral, political, historical, national imperative to get all of the hostages home now. No excuses. No one more than someone like me who's lived on the border for the last 40 years and has had to worry daily since 2008. For his children and now grandchildren about Hamas rockets and Hamas mortars and Hamas attack tunnels. No one more than me understands the importance of eradicating Hamas as a military and governing organization. That's clear, but these hostages can't be they've already we've already been sacrificed and by the government once. And I simply will not accept that this government or any other government will allow these 138 mostly men and but also women and children will be sacrificed a second time. That is something that Israel, any government simply could not allow. And every day that goes by time is getting short. We know this from the release hostages don't have to guess these are testimonies from the hundred or so people the older folks certainly who can testify to it every day, every hour. Our 138 brothers and sisters are at grave risk. They need to come out now. The Israeli government needs to do as difficult as it might be to make tough decisions to grow a political backbone and get these hostages out now. All right. Jonathan de Jochen, of course, we thank you for joining us, but of course, most of all, we join you in your wish for the safe return of your son, a hero for his actions. Certainly on that day and of course for all of the hostages that still remain there in in the Gaza Strip. The time is to bring him home now. Jonathan, thank you for joining us on my 24 news. Thank you for. And Daniel, I thought to put it more in a basically lucid and clear message, very articulate and so makes such sense. I mean, the basic contract between the state and its citizens, the contract that says the state defends the citizens has been broken and it makes no difference at this point, whose fault it was. Right. The state has to make it right. That is the responsibility now in order to do so. There are two objectives and I respect the need to fulfill them both. I won't even say which one is more important. I will, however, say very clearly which one is more urgent. Right. More timely and that that he was quite clear about. And that makes sense. I mean, maybe eliminating Hamas will have to wait a little bit. Freeing the hostages, especially there are still many fragile hostages there, elderly people, sick people, women and children. They have the clock is ticking and for these people the clock is ticking fast. So I think it's a very reasonable demand by these people to tell the Israeli government you have the responsibility to do anything, not just to react to Hamas proposals or Katari proposal. Take the initiative. Put an offer on the table and try and kickstart these negotiations. And Robert, we saw even this issue in some of the discussions we heard from Ben Egan about and the questions he had to take about these whether the head of the most side was delayed going to the most going to Qatar. Some there have been denials of that. We heard Ben against deny that, but there is political. There may be some politically difficult decisions ahead for the government in order, for example, to do a hostage release. And some of the suggestions that have been heard that involve freeing Palestinian security prisoners who are outright murderous and terrorist is one of those certainly one of those difficult decisions. Yeah, this is a balance act for the Israeli Cabinet to take. Israel seen in the past with Gil Achalit. The catch 22 that the country can be in and that situation where after the release of that Hamas hostage, there was a lot of disunity in the country as to whether it was the right decision or not. And I think that is slightly tied into this. And now the I think the Israeli government were happy to apply that military pressure to Israel. And then from that position of strength, take part in a ceasefire and a negotiation and an exchange of hostages in that regard. If they can get back into that situation, I think they may consider that a way to appease those voices in the Israeli public. We'll see if that happens. I want to go back to October 7th, the events that day. Now, Sincopor is one of the leading lightning lighting and sound companies in Israel. They've worked with such artists as Justin Bieber and the Rolling Stones and the company which is located on Kibbutz far as on the Gaza border. Lost two of its staff members and had two others abducted into Gaza in the October 7th attack. Orishapiro went down to see how the events the events of the past two months have impacted on one of those businesses located there right by the border with Hamas. The lights turned off on October 7th in Sincopa, one of the biggest lighting and sound companies in Israel. The company located in Kfar as a close to the Gaza border was severely damaged to employees. Nitzan Liepstein and Yuval Solomon were murdered in the Hamas onslaught twin brothers Eve and Gali Berman were abducted. Eve and Gali are the heart of Sincopa family. Wonderful kids, full of energy. Everyone who looked at them fell in love with them in a second. Sincopa was established in 2002 by a member of Kibbutz Kfar Azar. As opposed to other main companies in the Tel Aviv area, he decided to set his company in the Gaza envelope area. This company is like a family to us. We're doing all the big concerts together. It doesn't matter when you come to work or what you do there. There's always someone here to take care of you. What started as a small local company became a prestigious and big sound and lighting enterprise which provides services to some of the top concerts in Israel such as the Rolling Stones in 2014 and Radiohead in 2017. Throughout the years, the company also knew some challenges, especially in times of tension in Gaza and Israel. We had times when we had to work under rocket attacks. Unfortunately, it became a routine here that you learn to live with. Sincopa was in its peak before October 7th with great plans ahead. We were supposed to come back on Sunday, October 8th to work here. On Friday night, trucks came here and brought back equipment from the Tamar Festival. Luckily, nobleman was here on October 7th, otherwise things would have been much worse. Only a few weeks ago, the company returned to work. One of the projects Sincopa was involved in was the exhibition in memory of the victims of the Nova Party, which recently opened in Tel Aviv. It wasn't simple to walk on this exhibition and see their burned cars, tens of people, it was very chilling. I drove the road to Reim. You can still see traces from the party. It is beyond understanding. It doesn't matter how many videos and pictures you saw, once you see it live, nothing compares to that. Despite the many tragedies and the heavy rain, employees of Sincopa continue to work. This time, it's preparing a tribute show for the fallen, held in the Eshkol region. It's too far from here. Sincopa is my home. It's my community. So coming back to work after such a long time reminds me of all times. That feeling of the community of the Gaza Envelop area, working with my friends, it feels like coming back home. I have mixed feelings. On one hand, it's a good feeling to go back to work and to do the thing that you are best at and what you like the most. But I also feel bad about the people we lost. No matter where you walk here, you're looking for Ziv and Gali. It wasn't a single day that we didn't catch up with each other. So the feeling is very bad. Some of Sincopa's equipment was moved to another studio in central Israel. Meanwhile, the workers say they'll continue to work here. After all, the show must go on. That is the spirit. I want to thank Ambassador Daniel Schach for joining us again in studio. That brings this broadcast to a close, but do stay with us on I-24 News. Jeff Smith will come in and take the anchor's chair and continue our continuing coverage. Israel's war against Hamas as day 69 draws to a close. Thank you for joining us on I-24 News. 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News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. As we continue our live continuing coverage of the Israel Hamas war and the rising regional tensions. I'm Jeff Smith. There is a famous American political phrase that's been around for decades now called shuttle diplomacy. First made famous by then secretary of state Henry Kissinger. As the jet said it multiple times between Jerusalem and Cairo at the end of 1973 to hasten the end of the Yom Kippur war. Durant this war, the Israel-Gaza war, now approaching its 10th week, U.S. President Biden has also practiced shuttle diplomacy. He sent his secretary of state Anthony Blinken to Israel multiple times since October. He sent his national security advisor Jake Sullivan to Israel multiple times. In fact, Sullivan is here in Tel Aviv again right now. And Israeli media and U.S. media have reported for weeks now. The same thing that the message from the Biden White House was that Israel had only a few weeks to wrap up this war before risk losing U.S. support. Reportedly, the deadline was the end of this year. Days ago, top IDF commanders and lawmakers said without directly confirming any American pressure said that they did expect the ground invasion to only have to last three or four more weeks. So imagine the surprise earlier tonight when Israel's defense secretary stands next to the American national security advisor and says this. Once again, for coming to Israel, for helping us, for supporting us. We'll dig into those comments and what it all means in just a bit. But first, another intensive day of fighting as the IDF presses deeper into Gaza. Let's go straight to I-24 News correspondent Guy Asriel and Sterot for more on today's events. Guy. Jeff, it has been a day of intense fighting as we saw in the road quite a lot of noise from the battles there. We've heard artillery. We've heard Israeli drones. We've heard fighter jets. We've even heard a live automatic fire as the IDF continues to make its way down south. Also, battles continue. In the north, we saw that very, sadly, deadly battle in the Sa'ja'iyah just two days ago where nine Israeli troops unfortunately lost their lives. And these battles do continue to this hour. Also, in the northern neighborhoods, also in Bethlehem, Bethhanun, Jabalia, Sa'ja'iyah, the IDF has yet to complete its mission in the north. And this goes very well with the statements that we're hearing both from Defense Minister Galant and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. It does take time to eliminate Hamas. There are still pockets of resistance in the north, and the IDF is still a very long way to go from doing that in the south in the city of Hanyunis. At the same time, we are seeing more battles. We know of eight Israeli soldiers that were seriously wounded in the battles today. The IDF is also operating against the tunnels. We heard the IDF spokesperson Daniel Higari addressing this today, saying that we operate against these tunnels in various means. Also, we know that the IDF has started the pilot program of delivering sea water into some of these tunnels trying to flush those terrorists out of these tunnels. So, so much going on right now and still a long way to go for the IDF to complete its missions. Of course, eliminating Hamas's military capabilities across Gaza and returning those Israeli hostages still 135 of these hostages at the hands of Hamas to this hour. Guy Azrael, for us near the Israel-Gaza border in Steroot, a day of intensive fighting and many IDF injuries, serious injuries, as he mentioned. Thank you so much, Guy, for that live update. With me now in studio is Rafael Urashalmi, former senior IDF intelligence officer and also with us, 24 News Correspondent Robert Swift. Thank you both so much for being with me. I want to dig into those comments first with you, Rafael. We've heard, including from Israeli officials, reportedly on the behest of the Biden White House. You have only a few weeks left. Wrap up the high intensity ground offensive, these intense battles, these scenes that we're seeing by the end of the year. Now, the Israeli Defense Minister looks directly at the American National Security Advisor in his eyes, says we're going to take a few more months with this ground operation. What does it mean for the relationship between the Biden White House and this government? And what does it mean for the war, do you think? So there is much less difference between the American position and the Israeli position that meets the eye because the Americans would like us to finish, let's say, in a month, this very intense assault. And we're speaking maybe of two months. So I don't think we're going to argue about a few days here, a few days there. We all understand that soon enough, the very intense, massive assault has to end. It's the first phase of the war. Then we enter another phase. The other phase will last four months, indeed. It is the cleaning up of the last pockets of resistance. It is making sure we dismantle not only the military branch of the Hamas, but the Hamas itself, which is also thousands and thousands of civil servants working for the Hamas, Hamas members, white-collar terrorists that also have to weaken and neutralize at least in a political way so they don't rule over Gaza again. And then at the end of maybe the year of 2024 we will reach the phase that we have to prepare from now, which is the day after, and how security and order are maintained in the Gaza Strip once the Hamas has been evacuated from there and the war is over. But even if the plan is to start to end combat operations, I mean, we saw just days ago this horrific tragedy with ten soldiers, including commanders losing their lives in an ambush in an area generally that the IDF had control over, it was an ambush. I mean, they were coming out from tunnels. What's to say that when the IDF plans to start to end the ground operations, they are going back? Yes, that's exactly the point. You're making the right point because when the Americans say a month or two and when the Israelis say maybe two and maybe three, I mean, in that equation we just forget one person, the enemy. The enemy also has a word to say maybe they want to fight another five months, another six months. I mean, we cannot dictate just us the pace of a war. There is an enemy, in an ideal situation with pressures from the Arabic countries, with pressures from the PLO could also lay down their weapons tomorrow morning and decide to just go for the political survival and give up the military. That's of course utopia, yes. Give up the military aspect of their activities. Otherwise, it might be just the country that will intensely find activities that will ask for his bala to put pressure on us, for the Houthis to put pressure on us. So there is a third actor there that nobody is asking what his opinion is. That's a bit ridiculous to say of a war. Nobody can say of a war when it will end and put a date, a finale. It's never happened, it cannot happen. War is always with un foreseen developments. It could go eyes away. But I think that the Americans are trying just what they've done from the beginning and it's not a bad thing to cool down the game, to take a step back and think a bit. It's not a bad thing to have an outsider who's telling us this thing. This outsider, to my mind, is too much on the outside. They're going to regret it very dearly because they are misreading the map. We might speak about it later. I don't want to take the time now. But the Americans are absolutely misreading the Middle East map. They should be much more involved. They should be fighting with us. But that's another story. Thank you for that analysis. Earlier tonight, just a short time ago, en fact, Prime Minister Netanyahu were releasing a video statement about the goals of the war and giving a hint on what's to come. Nifgashe Omim, Jake Sullivan. I met with Jake Sullivan, the U.S. National Security Advisor. I deeply appreciate U.S. support for Israel by supplying the IDF with ammunition, by blocking U.N. attempts to stop the fighting and by assisting the effort to bring back our hostages. Let me be clear, bringing back our hostages is a main objective for us, including right now. I told our American friends our warrior heroes did not die in vain. Our deep pain and grief makes us more determined than ever to continue fighting until the elimination of Hamas, until absolute victory. Rob Netanyahu making repeated and pointed references here to the hostages and that being one of the ultimate war goals to bring them home. ¿Where do things stand? With locating them? With perhaps either getting them or negotiating a release for them? So with regards to that, there has been a couple days ago reports that the head of the Mossad was due to go to Qatar, was to be involved in negotiations there. It appears that the government wasn't keen on that. There's also been reports that instead the Israeli government are more interested in the idea of negotiations through Egypt as opposed to Qatar. We wait to see what comes of this. At the same time, the Israelis have, from the outset being said, been saying that military pressure is one of the means to get Hamas to the negotiating table. So whilst these negotiations take place they are continuing with the armoured, with the infantry moving forward. At the same time, slightly to the side of that, there's also special forces operations which take place. Now, there's not a lot of details which come out of this due to the sensitivity of these sorts of operations. There has been occasions just in the last week where the military conducted this sort of operation which has at times resulted in casualties. But as of yet, in recent weeks, not since much earlier in the war, has this produced any living hostages. Now that we're about to enter the 10th week of this war ¿Is there a conflict between the goal of toppling Hamas entirely as a fighting force and negotiating or getting the release of these scores of hostages presumably that are still alive? I think there is, I think, in terms of getting hostages back safely and attacking Hamas with full force, obviously these two things are in contradiction. Just this week, just a few days ago, there was more reports of Israel using additional means to try and attack the tunnel networks of Hamas using sea water to flood them. Now, just tonight, Minister Gantz was talking about the fact that they're going to be precise about how they do this. He hinted rather than said this. The fact that they're going to use intelligence to know which tunnels are safe to flood and which they can't. But realistically, intelligence is never certain. So, there is an inherent risk there. On the other hand, as I've said, the Israeli military feels that they need to apply a certain amount of military pressure to Hamas to get them to bother to negotiate at all. As with the news, Defense Correspondent Jonathan Orega is in Tel Aviv tonight meeting with the family members of hostages that are still held in Gaza as they push the government to begin negotiations or make concessions that could bring their loved ones home. Anger, disappointment, frustration, any of those words and maybe much more could describe the feeling of practically every Israeli towards the action or maybe better said the known action of the Red Cross when it comes to the Israeli hostages in Gaza. Nothing more than perhaps a bus company driving the hostages that were released from one place to another in Gaza. As far as Israel is concerned, this is all that the Red Cross has done so far for the hostages. No visits, no distribution of medicine for people who are in a risk of life in grave danger. People were in some of them with illnesses, with life threatening illnesses. Even before they were taking hostages and their situation is far worse now and to express this disappointment we see many people here protesting outside of the hotel in Tel Aviv where the president of the international Red Cross Mariana Spolarich is holding meetings with Israeli officials and with family members. We also heard from some of the family members here expressing their feelings towards the known action better said of the Red Cross. Let's go back to what they had to say. Don't go there. Think positive. How long can they think positive and ignore reality? Ten weeks now. 135 hostages are still in Gaza. Let's hope that after the meetings here in Tel Aviv and after this protest here of the family members the Red Cross will finally do a little bit more or maybe said much more for those hostages. Jonathan Regev, I-24 News. Back here in the studio, Rafael there is such pressure on the government to bring these hostages home presumably many of them some of them being held in tunnels also to find Sidwara, to find Diff maybe hiding out in tunnels is there a chance that they're not even in Gaza anymore, maybe they have fled through a tunnel into Egypt Is there a possibility that some of these high value targets including hostages that are close to them may no longer be in Gaza anymore? Absolutely. It is a possibility. The estimate is not yet. It's possible the art tunnels going from Gaza into Egypt works both ways. These are the tunnels used for smuggling weapons and whatever inside Gaza so of course you can take the other way out. I think that Mr. Sinois if he hasn't left yet it's because first of all is disconnected from the reality I don't think that from their bunkers the high level leaders of the political branch of the Hamas realize that they've lost Gaza they have lost that war I mean this war will last for a long time but they have lost it and they certainly have lost Gaza they even have lost the Gazan population there's no more trust in them the population there feels betrayed so all this is nice to say but down there in the bunker they don't realize that they are disconnected from the reality they also have an agenda of going on we know that there is an internal dispute in the Hamas Mr. Anier and Mr. Mashal who live in Doha comfortably already thinking of maybe finishing the military activity and just going for if we call it that national unity government of the Palestinians in Ramallah uniting with the PLO of some kind of a fusion whereas Mr. Sinois is of course completely against that he wants to fight on he still thinks that he can achieve something by keeping the fight so I don't think he has escaped yet he is keeping that option would he escape with the hostages why would he need the hostages once he is in Egypt he is not going to take them with him to Doha or wherever he is going to go he is keeping them right now as a life insurance whatever advances we may see in the coming days if liberating maybe some more hostages I do believe that at least 50 the last 50 will not be released until the very last minute the life insurance of Mr. Sinois and his mates there are human shields there are 2 million hostages on top of the surface in Gaza that's the Gazan people there are human shields also for the Hamas and there are 130 underground that are the human shields as well the Israeli hostages and why would they release them they know perfectly well we just discussed the problem of the tunnels and the problem of bombing certain places where the hostages are there so Mr. Sinois knows very well that once he gives all the hostages back then we have a free hand to bomb his wits out of everywhere because nothing stopping us anymore apart from avoiding collateral damage well Hamas has been condemned around much of the world for the October 7th massacre but among Palestinians his popularity has only increased i24 news correspondent Robert Swift on a shocking new poll Hamas might be listed as a terrorist organization in many capitals a status reinforced by a surprise assault on southern Israel 2 months ago but his recent actions have only raised its standing among Palestinians recent polling suggests 72% of respondents said they believe Hamas was correct to launch the October 7th attacks this figure was higher at 82% de la west bank pero incluso en la devastación de Gaza 57% agredo con el mensaje la autoridad palestiniana President Mahmoud Abbas popular en la calle por años ha perdido más con 88% de respondentes diciendo que les quiera resignar polling fue conducido a un sample de 1,231 personas en la west bank y Gaza durante los últimos meses los findings compliquen por el día después de la guerra con el U.S. apuntando a la autoridad palestiniana para administrar la Gaza y podría hacer Israel su victoria más alusiva con una ideología más difícil de destruir que cualquier organización la mayoría de los respondentes palestinianos dicen que creen que Hamas su motivación para su ataque de sorpresas fue la defensa de los policías en Jerusalem que dicen que están estrictos por los extremistas jewes en el gobierno israeliano y sólo 10% dicen que creen que Hamas fue conducido a war crimes durante lo que llamó la operación alexa flood y conmigo palestinianos y analistas maria maria muchas gracias por estar conmigo este poll quiero preguntar sobre los estados de unidades y lo que están llamando en el día después de la Gaza y lo que quieren ver en términos de un gobierno después de la guerra es que este poll no está escuchando a las personas palestinianas lo que quieren lo que creen gracias por haberme creo que los estados de unidades nunca han escuchado a los palestinianos si veas el estado el público está sufriendo de muchos problemas así que no me esperaría escuchar lo que las personas palestinianas quieren y lo que quieren los estados de unidades muestran de todos lados Hamas definitivamente no representa las personas palestinianas y no le trae de bien a los palestinianos como es bien a los BLO y la PAs y si estemos oliviendo los estados de unidades y Israel ninguno de ellos para sus ciudadanos. Así que Hamas no es el líder que necesitamos. Y creo que deberíamos trabajar contra mejores líderes y construir mejores futuras para todos los gente en el país, desde el río a el mar, y no solo los palestinianos, sino también los jubes que vivieron allí. El show de Poles muestra un gran apoyo para Hamas como un movimiento, como una ideología. Si hay un gobierno de futura nacional, o algún tipo de reconciliación, ¿es una manera de evitar tener a Hamas en el gobierno como representante? ¿O tienen que ser excluidos todos juntos, incluso si eso significa hacerlo democráticamente? No, al final del día, Hamas no es el líder que los palestinianos necesitan. Hamas no es el líder que trabaja contra la paz de todos los gente en el país. Pero eso significa que no justifica las acciones de Israel y lo que está haciendo ahora contra los palestinianos en Gaza. Hay civilizantes que vivieron en Gaza. Y esto no es el camino a combinar el terrorismo y a excluir a Hamas. Debemos trabajar en mejores formas y poder entender dónde es Hamas llegando. Al final del día, si miramos la historia, Israel ha creado este movimiento y ha ayudado a tener un enemigo. Al final del día, Hamas no existe en ningún lugar. Debemos mantener en mente y destacar el contexto político de la historia y de dónde vieron. Y si miramos en la gaza, en todos los sitios que dicen que la mayoría de las personas apoyan a Hamas, o sea, la mitad de la población en la gaza son niños. Así que no creo que tienen ningún derecho a votar. Vamos a comenzar con eso. Y cuando hablamos de un lugar muy cerrado que no ve nada más que Hamas, como líder y como un camino a combinar, porque Israel ha creado violencia antes de que Hamas lo creó. Hamas fue solo creado después de la primera defensa. Y antes de eso, Israel fue cometiendo trabajos contra los palestinianos, los abusos humanos, los desplazamientos ilegales. Así que Hamas no existe en ningún lugar. Así que para mí, como un cristian palestiniano, no me apoyo a Hamas y no veo a Hamas como líder y como líder sucesivo para nosotros. Y Hamas, la partida, el movimiento y las líderes no son incluso en la gaza. Así que ellos no muestran ninguna preocupación por sus personas. Y obviamente, ellos justamente quieren quedarse en poder. Y... Sí. Marina, gracias por tu análisis aquí en I-24 News. ¡Gracias por haberla! Gracias. En el estudio de la base de aquí, Rob, el polo es muy claro y es un polo más complejo, de los palestinianos, un polo científico desde el 7 de octubre. Marina dice que no es el gobierno incluyendo a Hamas de alguna manera que los palestinianos necesitan. Pero es muy claro que incluyendo a Hamas es lo que quieren. Sí. Esa no es la primera vez que el polo ha habido después de que hay un conflicto entre Hamas y Israel y la popularidad de Hamas ha salido. No es un fenómeno único para escuchar que cuando hay alguna forma de actuar en un conflicto tendrán que ser más extremo durante el tiempo. Si lo veas en la guerra civil de Siria, al principio de ese conflicto, los grupos rebeles que combatían contra el gobierno tendrán que tener una luna democrática, una luna secular, y cuando la guerra murió, se convirtió en más extremo. Esto ha sido visto en una luna democrática y en una luna democrática. En la luna democrática y en la luna ha sido visto en muchos otros conflictos. Tiene que ser que el público gravitara contra el suceso en el fútbol. Si hay una organización y que puede demostrar que sucesivamente conducta ataques contra los enemigos, es popular. ¿Tienes que creer que el Hamas es sucesivo? Están buscando esto como suceso? En términos de octubre 7, fue una de las ataques más altas contra Israel en la historia del país. De su punto de vista, es muy sucesivo. Vamos a hacer un corte break. Gracias a todos por tu análisis en esta sección de nuestro show. Pero vamos a hacer un corte más vivo, reportar más análisis en el estudio y noticias aquí, como la guerra de Israel es about to enter in 7th week regional threats from around the Middle East continue to rise. Hezbollah, the Houthi rebels, and more, these are live images now as we head to this commercial break from Gaza on this night. On the 69th day of Israel Hamas war, the IDF continuing to fight Hamas positions in incredibly dense urban environments across the Gaza Strip. More updates, stay with us, we'll be right back. Israel is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas, reportes desde la zona de guerra, la reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. Gracias por estar con nosotros. British Foreign Secretary David Cameron hoy anunció una banda sobre los extremistas asesores de Israel entrando en la Unidad Unida. Aquí es su tuit. Cameron no elaboró cómo los extremistas serán legalmente definidos como una brindaría. Cómo longa alguien podría estar en la entrada 4 y si los nombres serán parte de un récord público. La decisión de la Unidad Unida sigue con un anuncio similar hace unos días de la Unidad Unida que también dice que se impone una banda de viajes extremistas de los asesores de la Unidad Unida en la respuesta a un riesgo de violencia que también atreve a los asesores palestinianos. En muchas de estas altercaciones de los asesores de la Unidad Unida han anunciado una self defensa. Ellos fueron atacados primero. I-24 News, correspondiente de la Unidad Unida Jonathan Satradotti, tiene más en la backgrounds para el anuncio de hoy y cómo puede ser aplicado en escenarios de la vida real. El presidente británico David Cameron ha anunciado una banda de los extremistas asesores de Israel entrando en el Kingdom Unido intentando proteger la Unidad Unida de los asesores de los asesores de los asesores involucrados en el acto de violencia contra los palestinianos. La decisión sigue creciendo el tren internacional con la Unidad Unida y la Unidad Unida también considerando medidas contra los asesores extremistas. El presidente de la Unidad Unida, Joseph Borrell, y el presidente de la Unidad Unida, Ursula von der Leyen han expresado su apoyo a los asesores aunque van a necesitar unanimidad de los gobernadores del 27 de la Unidad Unida y eso ha yet to be achieved. Von der Leyen ha dicho que la incidencia en violencia contra los extremistas asesores es inclinante en el sufrimiento de los palestinianos y undermina los prospectos para una última paz y puede further exacerbar la instabilidad regional. David Cameron ha anunciado en X que los extremistas asesores por sus acciones de asesoramiento y asesoramiento a los palestinianos se undermina la seguridad de los israelíos y los palestinianos. Pero su anunciación no hace más detalle sobre cómo los asesores extremistas serán definidos y si una lista publicada de los asesores serán producidas. Su propósito no explicitamente outline ningún criterio para designar un individuo como un asesor extremista. Y cuando hablé antes con la oficina para encontrar más, me dijeron que todo lo que tienen que ver es el poste de David Cameron sobre X y nada más. No hay más detalles que pueden darme. David Cameron dice que los que asesoran los palestinianos serán abandonados. Pero por lo tanto, no dice exactamente quién serán asesores y habrá que esperar y ver si más detalles están producidas. La violencia de asesoramiento en el Bank West desde octubre 7 atribuido a los ataques de Hamas y las respuestas de los asesores han creado la escrutinidad de las violencias. Los grupos de la humanidad reportan una actividad notable en la incidencia violenta contra los palestinianos comprobando preocupaciones sobre la estabilidad regional y los prospectos para una última paz. Así que, mientras que el britán ha sido soportivo de la acción militar de Israel contra el Hamas, ha incluido ese coro de voces internacional colocando presión en Israel para asegurar mejor provisión humanitaria para los ciudadanos en Gaza y el primer ministro Rishi Sunak y el secretario de la secretaría de la Secretaría de la Cámara han hablado hoy para desagradar públicamente con la embajada israelí y el secretario de la Secretaría de la Cámara que, en una entrevista en la noticia Sky News, dijo que ella rejuega la idea de un estado palestiniano cuando los palestinianos han demostrado que no hay deseo, según ella, para tener un estado adentro de Israel pero, en vez de eso, deseó crear uno desde el río a la Cámara. La policía estadounidense de la Unidad de la Unidad es todavía la solución de dos estados. Pero Cameron dice hoy que no se siente mucho que debería leer en una entrevista con la embajada. Bueno, ahora es Josh Haston, el esponcillor internacional para Gush Ezeo. Josh, bienvenido a ver hoy. ¿Estás preocupado sobre las imágenes ambiguosas aquí que están aplicadas en estos anuncios, como extremistas? ¿Estás preocupado por lo que significa? Bueno, primero, voy a clarificar lo que estamos hablando de aquí. Es decir, esta es una campaña de propaganda contra la residencia de Judea y Samaria, más probablemente ledida a la autoridad palestiniana. Y, por suerte, probablemente también hay organizaciones humanas-rights, organizaciones fríneas de Israel que están detrás de esto. Y esto es realmente un intento de retirar el fokus de lo que está pasando en Gaza, Hamas brutal, un massacre de más de 1,200 israelíos en octubre 7. Es una campaña de PR y parece que el U.K., junto con el Departamento de Estados Unidos y, tal vez, el presidente, han tomado el debate sobre esto. Entonces, es una campaña de propaganda. En actualidad, vemos que, en los últimos meses, la so called settler violence, de nuevo, que es mínima, a partir de esto, se ha perdido. Y, al mismo tiempo, los que rely en las autoridades palestinianas, incluyen, esos estatísticos incluyen cuando el IDF entra y toma a los terroristas. Cuando eso ocurre, el P.A. incluye a ellos en su categorización de la settler violence. Así que tenemos que tomarlo con un gran asalto. Esta es una campaña de PR. Eso es exactamente lo que es. Pero si dices que el número de incidentes violentos ha actually bajado, es en un descanso, pero no, entonces, detener israelíos, ciudadanos que son, digamos, convirtidos de violencia, de entrar en el U.S., de darles una visita. ¿Dónde eso, tal vez, también será beneficioso para mantenerse en ese descanso el tren que está pasando? No, no veo una conexión ahí, pero estoy curioso de saber si el U.S. o el U.S. si están actualmente implementando cualquier tipo de ban de las personas que consideran criminales de cualquier otro mundo. Si están mantiendo Israel a una distancia diferente, sabemos lo que es llamado. Eso es llamado antisemitism. Están bailando específicamente los juzgos de el estado de Israel. Ironicamente, hice una investigación hoy. Veo que sobre dos, hay dos millones de incidentes de violencia y también defensivas sexuales en el U.S. en 2022, en 2023, solo. No sé si el U.S. va a extender a todos esos individuos de su país que están acusados de llevar violencia. Esto es una campaña de PR, targetando los juzgos de Judea, targetando los juzgos de Samaria. Y eso es todo lo que Israel está haciendo al final del día. ¿Estás... ¿El impacto ahora de este anuncio de David Cameron y también de Estados Unidos el E.U., Joseph Barrell, también intentando también querer extender a la política de la Unión Europea también. ¿Cuál es tu take sobre lo que significa, tal vez, para la relación entre la juzga europea y la vida en el Bank West en Judea y Samaria? Bueno, primero de todo, no me sorprende que el E.U. fue una parte de esta campaña. En general, hemos tenido buenas relaciones con el E.U. por muchos años. Eso, por lo tanto, han ido de su manera a hacer productos de Boycott de Judea y Samaria. Hemos visto eso antes con vinieres y otros productos de Judea y Samaria. Entonces, de nuevo, hay quienes están a lado de Hamas, al menos. Hay quienes, como los de la República Cheque y otros que están asistiendo con Israel. Así que hay amigos, seguramente hay amigos en el E.U. Y esperemos que esas relaciones se gagnerá, pero es completamente infierno a singular la juzga de Judea. Juzgas basados en su geografía son absolutamente inaceptables. Josh, muchas gracias por estar con nosotros por la noche. El E.U., es increíble por haberlo. Gracias. Back to your studio Rafael, quiero decir un momento, para que se despliegue de la guerra de Israel en Gaza y hablarles sobre el West Bank. La operación en Janín, 60 horas, rafinando hoy una operación excelente, militarmente, la cantidad de armas y arrestes, e infraestructura terrorista, incluyendo tonelos despejados en Janín en los últimos días, un número maravilloso. También tenemos las instancias de violencia y ataques entre los palestinos y los celulares israelíos. ¿Es el West Bank que está arreglando? ¿Es esto una pata de arreglar que se va a arreglar? No, no creo así. Creo que los jamares les gustaría arreglarla y están enviando un montón de mensajes contra la población, especialmente la utilidad a través de las redes sociales para una prisa popular que no está sucediendo. Después de las estadísticas, la pausa que vimos es que hay una soporta para las operaciones de los jamares y que hay que proteger la Mosque de Elaxa. No se ve en la prisa de la calle de Palacio. No se ve un show de solidaridad, un show de solidaridad en las calles de Gaza. Se ve una intensificación de la prensa terrorista porque, aparte de esta prisa general, que los jamares han estado intentando obtener, no solo ahora, han intentado varias veces para inflamar el mundo del Oeste Bank con la frecuencia de la Mosque de Elaxa, etcétera. No ha funcionado. También han dado muy estrictos ordering específicos a sus sellos en el Oeste Bank para los jamares terroristas. En el mismo, y eso es lo más horrible, en el mismo modo que el 7 de octubre. ¿Puede ir a un desplazamiento o puede llegar a una ciudad de Israel cerca? Por favor, rapeen las mujeres y les maten a los niños. Eso es lo que tienen en los jamares en el islamismo Jihad. Entonces, oposita a eso, tenemos un suceso completo del Comandante Centro durante los últimos dos meses, desde el principio de esta guerra, el Comandante Centro ha asegurado relativamente quieto en el Oeste Bank. Están aplicando mucho presión. Cada noche, arrestan a docentes de terroristas, confiscan a docentes de armas, pero la última operación, la operación de 60 horas, fue una muy espectacular operación masiva. Hacen cientos de arrestos. Hacen alrededor de 2.000 de arrestos de terroristas desde el principio de la guerra desde el Oeste Bank. Creo que llegamos a 2.500. Así que eso es un poco malo. Más de ellos son jamares. Más de ellos son jamares. Es parte de la guerra. Y él mostrae que tal vez estamos haciendo algo hoy y que no estamos haciendo antes. O sea, estamos haciendo algo correcto hoy. ¿Por qué no hicimos esto antes? Interesante análisis, Rafael. Gracias mucho. Hacemos el impacto del U.S. aquí. El Congreso del U.S. hoy pasan a un bill de una pérdida de 900 millones de dólares, que también incluye pérdidas para los grupos. También fundan para la acción de Ucrania. Ayes first we've senior diplomatic correspondent Owen alderman explores the controversy over this bill and Ukraine military support and what lessons Israel might learn. Ucrania had a concepcia, a concept until it fell apart. That the case for USA du Kiev for Ukraine's defense against Russia was so convincing that the flow would not stop. All true until it wasn't. What the Biden administration seems to be asking for es billions of additional dollars with no appropriate oversight, no clear strategy to win and none of the answers that I think the American people are owed. And so Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky found himself in Washington this week not just hat in hand but with a worn out hat and a tired hand as Republican legislators continued to hold up funding. Zelensky had staked his country's staying power on American money. Maybe by necessity, but still, in Israeli terms, a conceptia, an un question set of assumptions. We aim to win the air battle, crashing Russian air dominance. This will intensify our ground advance in 2024. And yes, for another country fighting wars while assuming American support, Ukraine's story is a warning. A warning of what happens when current swirl in American politics, when that swirl is met with complacency and when the assumption is that change will be gradual and not sudden. Of course in important ways Israel is not Ukraine. The U.S. Israel bond goes back decades. A passionate American Jewish community works hard to build the relationship. And Israel does not need as much money as Ukraine does. But loud signs of erosion on the American street are out there. The assumption is that erosion will be gradual. That may be a conceptia. With me now is I, 24 News, senior U.S. correspondent Mike Wagenheim. Mike, today of course the Israeli Defense Minister saying that this war, the ground offensive may take months. So many questions about the timetable. Netanyahu and Biden, of course, their relationship goes back decades and decades. They're definitely, though, does seem to be a little tension these days between these two old friends. First of Jeff, it needs to be noted that ground offensive can be taken in a lot of different ways, in a lot of different contexts. It doesn't mean the all out assaults that we're seeing right now from the IVF. It could mean a different type of operation, more targeted, which is what I think the Americans are not just hinting at, but kind of calling for out loud at this point in time. So whether it takes months or weeks, it really needs to be defined more by the objectives and the actual strategy rather than the length of time. But getting to your point, yeah, there's tension there. There's been tension for decades between Joe Biden and Benjamin Netanyahu, essentially since their first meeting. This is nothing new whatsoever. I don't think it portends any sort of crisis. I know we like to talk a lot about every little disagreement turning into a crisis. Everything is magnified right now because of the war and because of Biden's otherwise a pretty strong support for Israel in this war. So every little disagreement, every statement that's given is parsed and everybody trying to read between the lines right now. I don't think there's any more tension there than normal. Everything is just so blown up right now because of the circumstances of the moment. Mike, for now, almost every single day, there is some kind of Israel story, Israel Hamas story on the front page of the New York Times, or the Washington Post, or the Wall Street Journal. If this continues, even if the ground offensive starts to subside the intensity of it, if this is still front page news, nevertheless, at some point does it become a campaign issue, a problem for Biden's reelection campaign next year? We tend, because we work in the business, we work in Jeff, and our viewers tend to have interest in a certain part of the world that we tend to view things within our bubble of Israel of the Middle East. It's not that way for the average American. For our viewers certainly, for the average American across the country, no. They're thinking about kitchen table issues for the most part, a range of diverse issues that come to the forefront when it's time to check a box inside the ballot booth. So I don't think this is going to harm or hurt, excuse me, hurt or help, I should say Joe Biden one way or the other. There are polls saying they'll struggle with that with Americans because of its stances on the war. There's other polls showing that his support among American Jews has gone up more and among Israel supporters has gone up more because it may balance each other out. I think it's a wash in the end. I think the vast majority of Americans are more concerned with other issues even as they see this war drag out on the front pages of the papers here for weeks at a time. Like I want to ask lastly about a similarity here with Ukraine and the need perhaps for continued munitions and continued funding for war aims. We see it with Ukraine now as their war stretches with Russia into its second year. Your sense here from what happened last week with the State Department bypassing Congress being able to get tens of thousands of tank shells quickly to Israel without a congressional oversight or vote. They were able to push it through quickly. If this war as expected goes on even the lower intensity, if America needs to send more munitions, more weapons, more funding to help the Israeli war aims, what happens the next time? First off, Jeff, it must be noted that this is not unprecedented territory that a presidential administration would use a provision in the Export Arms Control Act and be able on an emergency basis to send these types of munitions and other weaponry. It happened just recently under the Trump administration with Saudi Arabia with the United Arab Emirates when they were fighting the Houthi rebels. So this is nothing new. This goes back administration after administration. I don't think Joe Biden is going to go to the well too often when it comes to using this particular provision. I think he wants a healthy relationship with Congress. I think he, being a former senator, he appreciates the oversight role that Congress has both in the House and the Senate. So I don't see him dipping too much into the emergency provisions here. I think this was a one, maybe a two-time thing. But in the end, I think this will go back to congressional oversight. I don't think he wants to pick a fight here with those that are looking to have more oversight over this matter. We even hear now from high-level Democrats. Gregory Meeks, the ranking Democrat in the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said today that he wants to take a closer look at the arms that are going over to Israel and making sure that the process is flowing smoothly. So I don't think this will be an issue time after time for Joe Biden here. And hopefully it won't need to be. Hopefully, as the Americans want and I think Israelis want to, this war will wind down sooner rather than later. Mike Wagenheim, live for us in New York City. Thank you so much for that report. And Russian president Vladimir Putin today describing the Israeli war on Gaza as a catastrophe and said that the humanitarian disaster and scenes of destruction in Gaza can't be compared to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Putin made the remarks during this annual traditional end of year media conference he holds every year in Moscow. Let's take a listen. Look at the special military operation and what's happening in Gaza and see the difference. Nothing compared to that is happening in Ukraine. You mentioned the deaths of thousands of women and children. The UN Secretary General called Gaza today the biggest children's cemetery in the world. This speaks volumes. This is an objective definition. With me now is Dr. Simon Tsipis, the political science and international relations expert. Thank you so much, sir, for being with me. I want to ask about both the relationship between Israel and Russia as global actors, but also now the importance of this personal relationship between Netanyahu and Putin. Well, let's not forget that during 2011 and 2014 when Russia actually came to Middle East and it saved Bashar al-Assad in Syria fighting ISIS and Assad's opposition there was a really, really close cooperation between Israel and Russia. Let's not forget that even Russian jets and fighter planes they were using Israeli air corridors for the military operation of the Russian Air Force whereas Turkey actually shut down one of the planes. So I think from this perspective Russia respects Israeli cooperation with Israel. Now the problem began when Russia received Hamas a few days after 7 October in Moscow. Let's not forget that Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people who represent them he is Abu Mazen from the Palestinian Authority but nevertheless Russia received the legation of Hamas in Moscow on a high level and it was unexpected. I think it raised a few questions but now I think the main point for Vladimir Putin he is less concerned about the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza he is much more concerned about probability of this conflict developing between Israel and Hisbola in Lebanon which will mean that this conflict might draw inside Syria, Iran and then Russia will have to decide whether it's going to save its allies Bashar al-Assad and Iranian regime and Putin understands that he cannot stretch itself to both theaters Ukraine and Middle East So I think in my opinion she is trying to convince Benjamin Netanyahu not to develop this conflict to the border of Lebanon and Syria and not to clash with Hisbola and keep this conflict only within the frames of Gaza and Hamas and Israel and not to develop this conflict further because he will have to intervene and he cannot do it because he is always stretched now with Ukraine and with some of the forces which are stationed now in Syria Does Putin have a relationship with a special kind of relationship perhaps with Hamas' political leaders the Politburo who are in exile from Gaza are they in connection with Putin and is that an important relationship that Putin can use as leverage? I would say that Russia has traditionally close relations even since Yassil Arafat was the leader of the Palestinian movement of liberation and his predecessors of Putin Yevgeny Primakov, Gorbachev other leaders like even Khrushchev and who had very very close cooperation Brezhnev with the Palestinian Liberation Movement I think he is just going through this inertia inertia from the Soviet Union times and he feels much more closer to the Arabs traditionally and to the Palestinian people who in his perspective they are fighting for their freedom but it takes to understand specifically this problem and many questions were raised why was Hamas invited to visit Moscow and not the Palestinian authorities from the West Bank and this might raise some questions does his advisors understand who is the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people and definitely it's not Hamas so the question is why Hamas visited Moscow and I don't think Putin have too much close cooperation or some special maybe even some attitude towards Hamas he does have some historical traditional connection with the Palestinian people but I don't think it has something to do special with this Hamas movement so why was Hamas invited to Moscow a few days after the attack it raises many questions one opinion is that they were discussing release of hostages which held Russian passports Russian citizens but I don't think this was the reason where there was something bigger behind this visit Simon thank you so much for your analysis great to have you thank you Rafael the importance of this coordination in years past between Israel and Russia when Israel needed to strike arms convoys Iranian backed arm shipments headed towards Hezbollah going through Syria, going through Lebanon that coordination with Russia is that at risk now it seems at risk like that before we've been we've had ups and downs with the Russians sometimes it looked like we were angry at one another they were like harsh words being exchanged but on the ground the arrangement continued right now we do not need to coordinate as much our operations with the Russian Air Force because they're not that present anymore so sometimes we do operate without even warning them because they know they're not around I mean the only reason we want them is to avoid to shoot their planes or their planes shooting at us so that's now less of a possibility because their planes are more in Ukraine than in Syria what is interesting to notice is that Putin is a bit disquieted by the fact that he had taken over some part of the Middle East he had put the Russian boots back in the Middle East and now the Americans are back in force the whole of the Mediterranean which is the sacred sea in the fight between the two blocks is now submerged with the American fleet the Americans are back here we have to go out for a break Rafael thank you so much for your analysis here and all these topics here as the war enters its seventh week more news ahead stay with us and that's my friend Israel is at war make an investment in Israel bonds it is the most powerful and direct way to stand with Israel visit israelbonds.com and invest now made for me official dresser of i24 news good evening ladies and gentlemen en este momento haciendo la recuperación de alguna emergencia de poder ahí in a state of war families completely gun down in their beds we have no idea where she is our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well intensify their campaign across the Gaza Strip today eight Israeli soldiers were seriously wounded in fire fights with Hamas terrorists tonight the IDF chief of staff visited combat soldiers in North Gaza just a few days after a deadly Hamas ambush killed 10 soldiers including commanders the IDF says it has carried out over 500 airstrikes alone this week on Hamas position back here in studio with the threats of course not just from Hamas y Gaza regional threats as well continue Hezbollah on the northern border with Lebanon and now of course with the Houthi movement of the Houthi rebels in Yemen, Iran back Iran finance they have missiles, they have drones and they continue to threaten shipping ships across the Red Sea headed towards Israel making good on those threats reportedly also a few hours ago yeah so the Houthis have said in a tweet that they that they struck a vessel the mayor Gibraltar that was passing through the streets at the minute it's unconfirmed whether or not that is the case there has been instances in the past when the Houthis have claimed that they've struck a vessel and it's turned out not to be the case that they've simply launched an attack and it's failed to connect even on details to find out if this has been the case just to remind our audience earlier in the week there was a successful strike on a Norwegian flag vessel and there has been several interceptions of both drones and cruise missiles launched from Yemeni territory the fact even if this wasn't an attack or an attempted attack the Houthi tweet the Houthi movement saying it was a drone attack even just the hassling the threat alone is an economic impact if you think about the insurance that these companies have to pay these ships are massive so there's large in a in a in a in a in a in a in a a there's large insurance covers for them as we understand it there's already ships that have divert of course they think why take this waterway why pass up the Red Sea and through the Seuss Canal if we can just go around Africa now that's a longer journey but it's already happening this is having an economic impact on Egypt which takes fees for ships passing through the Seuss Canal so you can see that the Houthis already having that impact there this in itself is adding weight to the arguments coming from certain sectors chiefly the United States and Israel that some sort of international coalition is required to deal with this phenomenon Israel would be quite happy to be able to concentrate on what's happening in its immediate backyard let's say and leave the Houthis that are further afield to a larger to other actors and it's worth remembering Prime Minister Netanyahu he wants the United States he wants perhaps Germany an international force to deal with this this is a global issue not just an Israeli one but then the US has to weigh of course their own balance here on how ensnare do they want to become with this issue of this Houthi movement flying drones, threatening ships could that sucker in the United States and not just the United States many of the United States allies Saudi Arabia has been attacked by the Houthis in the past Saudi Arabia was involved in an air campaign in TMN territory and also the UAE has entangled with the Houthis in the past and Saudi Arabia particularly were moving towards cooling those tensions with the Houthis so they're unlikely to wish for anything that could blow back on them if say the Houthis are unable to directly target Israel they're not having success in targeting that they want and if the US was to escalate attacks on them either through airstrikes or special forces raids one possible scenario could be for the Houthis to lash out at other regional US and Israeli potential allies such as Saudi Arabia or the UAE at the same time there is precedence for this ten years ago when there was the piracy concerns emanating from Somalia it was an international coalition which kind of dealt with that issue and the fact that commercial shipping is being attacked does by its very nature make this more than just an Israeli issue also Israel of course dealing with the primary threat of Hamas terrorism and Hamas rockets in this war they continue to fight against urban environments that lend themselves to ambush opportunities for Hamas killers we saw that tragically just a few days ago with a Hamas tunnel ambush that killed ten IDF soldiers but the IDF continues to fight these Hamas positions seeing your defense correspondent Jonathan Regev has more en Sajaia incidente how dangerous street fighting is but also understand the importance of searching every house this is what is found in one of them a seemingly residential home which is also a terror compound in Sajaia our troops found large weapons depots and tunnels in multiple schools there was even a sniper rifle hidden inside a teddy bear we found an RPG training facility inside a mosque in Jibalia only a few the danger awaits in every corner here is a Hamas terrorist hiding behind the bricks waiting for the right moment to act just before he does a helicopter is called in for the hit despite the dangers there is no replacement for boots on the ground that is why the forces keep entering these compounds understanding the intelligence gathered here may lead them to more terror cells or possibly even to hostages the pressure is eventually leading the terrorists to surrender tens of them left the Gaza hospital where they were hiding over the last two days fighters from the 460th brigade have been evacuating the Kamal Adwan hospital the hospital had been used as a stronghold for terrorists terrorists had come out of here to harm our forces during the evacuation many weapons were removed from the hospital a lot of terrorists were taken out of the hospital and are currently in custody in Israel security officials believe that as the ground operation intensifies more images of the sky will be seen and with us now near the Israel-Gaza border is I-25 news correspondent Guy Azriel another day of intense combat another day of casualties as well give us an update perhaps on the IDF positions in Gaza where they're fighting and what's going on yes Jeff perhaps an illustration of the fact that the IDF forces are spread out so widely across the Gaza Strip is the fact that we've seen a lot less rocket fire into Israeli territory the last one coming just two hours ago towards the city of Afakim just on the western Israeli negative desert and a lot of like about six hours before that really shows how Hamas is struggling to execute rocket attacks on Israeli cities as of course the IDF continues to operate across various areas across the Gaza Strip the main focus of course is trying to spread out to the south but as the IDF is doing that there is still so much work to be done in the northern neighborhoods the IDF has yet to eliminate Hamas' capabilities there we saw that very sad incident in Jonathan Regev's report in Sahaja'iyah two days ago where nine Israeli soldiers lost their lives and this evening as well we could clearly see from the artillery automatic fire drones and even a fighter jet still a lot of action there IDF forces are being met with pockets of resistance of those Hamas fighters we also know that they are working to flush out the terrorists from the tunnels in all parts of the Gaza Strip using all sorts of sophisticated measures technological measures as well as the flooding of those tunnels with sea water according to some reports that is so far seems to be successful as far as the IDF defines it but no information on the scale of the flooding of those tunnels obviously there is a scare there as well as 135 Israeli hostages are still being held by Hamas many of them presumed to be in those same tunnels as those senior Hamas officials another interesting thing that the IDF does today is spreading leaflets to residents of Gaza offering prize money up to 400,000 US dollars to anyone who will give information about the whereabouts of very senior Hamas officials including Yahasinwar and Mohamed Def the IDF promises the safety of anyone who provides that information of course that is one of the goals of the IDF both returning the hostages eliminating Hamas military capabilities and getting hold of these senior officials of course all of them responsible for that very deadly attack on octubre 7 that started this war the slaughter of over 1200 Israelis on that dreadful Saturday Guy Israel lie for us in stereo thank you for that update tonight and 4 members of Hamas were recently arrested in Europe for plotting attacks on Jewish institutions on the continent prosecutors say the Hamas members were arrested in Berlin in the Netherlands and they have close ties with Hamas military tower wing authorities say the group was actively looking for places to stash their weapons in Berlin as they plotted a large tower attack with us now live in Berlin is journalist James Jackson James thanks so much for being with me is this an isolated thing I mean the arrest of these four people with affiliated affiliations with Hamas or is this something that's more widespread or there are a lot of Hamas members in Germany in the Netherlands is this something that's a bigger concern so I think we have some developing news on this one because initially it was unclear that this whether this was referring to Denmark or Germany or the Netherlands actually Danish intelligence have now according to the BBC put out report that they have arrested three more people initially it was thought that these were the same citizens so it does look like and these reports do still need to be confirmed that these are Hamas that Hamas has been active in three European countries at least in Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands they have been shown it's very likely that they were planning an attack on Jewish centres so Jewish sites associated with the Jewish community that could also be associated with Israel at least in Hamas's mind these people were Lebanon in Berlin the people held Lebanese and Egyptian citizens so it looks like a more widespread attack and just to correct you as far as the German prosecutor said German prosecutor reported that Hamas already had weapons buried in Germany in the sound in an underground in the underground weapons cache and that they were unable to find the weapons so it looks like they were planning an attack they were planning to attack but there was no specific target in mind yet there has been correspondence which suggests that that was at Jewish sites now this is going to be a shock for people in Germany because Germany at least sees itself as deeply involved in this conflict because of its historical responsibility to Israel as a state security but also to the security of Jewish life in Germany now the prosecutors found this and it's not like they were close to an attack but it does seem like they have been able to bring in weapons from the last reports and then in as well so I think this is really an escalation of the security threat of Hamas in Europe because this is to my knowledge the first time that Hamas have planned an attack in Europe at least getting so close they have made of course they have called for attacks on Israeli or Zionist as they call it institutions before but in this case they appear to have smuggled weapons into Europe of course Hamas have been banned in Germany now as I reported on I-24 last month so some Germans may feel that deeply connected to the war but they might feel that the war between Hamas and Israel is now coming home might this be a lone cell lone wolf is there a connection between those arrested actually and Hamas's actual military headquarters to Hamas military wing here in the Middle East so this is according to German prosecutors very likely that they have linked to the Hamas al Kassam Brigade the armed militant wing that was also responsible for the attack the massacre on October 7 so we have to wait until everything is proven it has to be proven in court of law of course but the German intelligence force has been relatively clear about what they think is going on and then of course with Denmark there are questions raised there so but if they've been arrested on the same day it's likely that they were in connection with each other and the German cell if you want to call it that does reportedly have connections to Hamas's leadership or the leadership of the al Kassam militant wing of Hamas the terrorist wing James thank you so much for being with us and I-24 News thank you a lot of audios were taken captive by Hamas and released 8 weeks later as part of a ceasefire deal is now speaking out about the Hamas invasion the kidnapping of her daggers and the unrelenting fight to save them Renanah Yagheel and Ohh Who but you know how important it is to empower and strengthen all the children of the Gaza envelope I want to invite you to light a 7th hanukah rained La luz, la luz de todos nosotros, es tu casa de regreso. Déjame la luz iluminar su camino y un gran miraculara estará aquí. Antes de que se estén los 7º canales de Hanukkah en Alad, nos conocimos Renana, una madre de dos chicos que regresó a casa only 2 semanas atrás. Su padre es todavía en Gaza, en la captividad. Mi hermano me venía a acompañarme durante estos difícils días y me permitió ir abajo aquí y entrar al mar y pasar el tiempo. Entonces, el día en el que mis niños fuese todo este proceso y me estaba esperando nerviosamente, me escogí, me subí de aquí hasta que estuvimos ahí, hasta el barrio y atrás. Llevamos otra hora. Olen y Agil fueron lanzados en el 4º canales. Me puse la presión increíble en los miembros del cabino para que Agil estaba en la lista, porque él estaba llevado por la islámica jihad. Él tenía que ser transferido a Hamas. No era claro si él se transfería y hasta que hay una reunificación de familia, no se estaba listo. Eso fue la condición, ¿verdad? La reunificación de familia, nuestra condición. Entonces, no se estaba listo para lanzar ambos de ellos. ¿Y ellos tenían que transferir a Agil? Sí. Todo el mundo sabe que Agil estaba con el jihad. Él era su presentador. Ellos decidieron que era el mejor presentador. Él dijo que hicieron 50 takes. Ellos arrastraron todo el día antes de eso para probablemente llevarlo al estudio. Ellos le dieron un mensaje de mensaje. La primera cosa que fue lo más importante para él era decir, ¿Bibi, estás escuchando? Lo más importante para él era decir que él no sabía lo que dijo ahí. Ellos estaban tirados de la misma casa. Ellos se arrastraron con una cifra. Le dieron a los boxeos. Un chico en boxeos con una cifra a su cuerpo. Ellos se arrastraron con una cifra electrónica. Y después de que se murió, le dieron a su hermano. Renana, quien hasta el 7 de octubre fue la hija de Kibbut Holit. El 16 de octubre tomó un nuevo juego. La iniciativa se llevó para la returna de los niños. La discusión en ese momento fue sobre freírle a ciudadanos. Estos ciudadanos israelíos con pasaportes. Una prioritización para los niños. Me dieron 48 horas para obtener las listas de los niños. Empecé a Kfaraza. Empecé a Berri. Empecé a trabajar. Etan Stiva llevó el dinero a la iniciativa. Profesor Chechanova fue involucrado junto con muchas otras personas importantes. Y la iniciativa cívica llevó a cuatro reuniones de los padres de los niños con representantes de Qatari. Ahora la iniciativa está cambiando su face. Empecé a la returna de los hombres que permanecen captivos. Los hombres permanecen, como si estuvieran bien. Mi padre de los niños murió. Probablemente seriosamente. No sabemos exactamente lo que es su condición. No hemos recibido ningún signo de la vida. Me quedo awake. Y me admito que hasta que veas mi hijo celebrar bar mitzva. Estaban muy complexos descripciones de soledad porque no estaban juntos. Entonces, uno fue muy solos y el otro fue con otras personas de nuestra comunidad. El hecho de que estés con las personas que conocen y cuidan de ti y que tienes alguien para cuidar es algo muy significativo. El otro fue muy solo. Solo, solo? Solo, solo. Y luego se convirtió en 10 días de seriosamente injurado a un tío. ¿Qué un niño hace solo por 30 días? Vea la puerta, aprende el azan por corazón, vea muchos y muchos de Al Jazeera, aprende el árabe, habla con sus captores. ¿Cómo lo pones? Estaba sin teléfonos hasta que el corazón empezó a trabajar. Se aprendió sobre ellos, y de lo que eran y de los niños que tenían, y se pareció y aprendió sobre la familia сидiendo en la puerta, se usó su cabeza. Los niños están muy, muy, muy preocupados sobre la condición de sus padres y otros padres que estuvieron ahí, incluidos todos los que metieron y estuvieron conmigo. El conocimiento de que está ahí, de la lugar terrible que estuvieron en. Se saben, según nosotros. Lo que se parece, esta factura es inundable para ellos. ¿Y cómo es Shira? Shira es relativamente ok. La cantación es muy difícil desde que se retorna. Es muy difícil para ella saber la factura de que su padre todavía está ahí. El discurso ha sido un discurso de otro ataque en Caniunis y otro rocket hit en Tel Aviv. En el siguiente paso, te vas a jugar. Te vas a ir a Caniunis y luego te vas a Rafa y es increíble. En todo esto, hay 137 personas que están esperando para que te descanse. No estoy en general agredido. Lo único que puedo decir es que al nivel del contrato de los estados, con sus ciudadanos, te descanse. Te descanse a ellos. Estos son las personas que solo se senten para que te descanse y mantengan una comunidad en la dirección. Entre la luz de los candles de Chanukah y la reunión con el presidente, los niños, como Renana dice, regresan a la cosa regular del pasado. Ellos rapidamente adaptaron su nueva vida viviendo en un hotel. Pero cada mañana, la primera cosa es que te descanse y si el padre está en la lista. Y conmigo ahora es Gilad Milo, un músico israelí viviendo en Kenia. Se ha lanzado la nueva songa de Reggae, sobre el 7 de octubre que dice que el mundo must never forget and never let that happen again. Antes de comenzar la conversación, vamos a escuchar un poco de la canción. Aquí es Gilad. ¿Por qué te arriesgas a escribir esta canción? ¿Y qué es el mensaje que quieres compartir con el mundo? Octubre 7. En un show y los tíres que han seguido. Hemos subido a la TV y a la noticia. Tenemos dos niños en la Armia y Israel. Los niños son en la Armia y Israel. Los hermanos son todos en Israel y todos sabemos. Empecé a escribir inmediatamente después y me pido a la noticia bastante. Y me pido por mi camino a escribir el mensaje. Es eso. Nunca pensábamos que estar aquí. Nunca pensábamos que estar aquí. Es Israel. Nunca pensábamos que podríamos ver esto de nuevo. Nunca pensábamos que las juzgas podrían permitirse ser quietos y no decir nada. Así que es mi camino de decirlo. Gilad, quiero preguntar sobre el estilo musical aquí. Hay pobres y hay canciones que han sido escribidas en los últimos dos meses sobre la atrocidad y el ataque. El ataque de la terror de Hamas. No estoy seguro de que hay otra canción reggae, un estilo reggae de música aquí. ¿Es algo único de este estilo de música, el poder de ese tipo de música que crees aquí? Primero, reggae es mi estilo. Es la música que hago. Yo vivo aquí en Kenia y hago canciones de reggae o canciones de reggae en Swahili en inglés. Es lo que he estado haciendo. Es lo que he estado haciendo por años. Pero reggae es también una revolución que es un genre. Y esta es una canción de combate. Es como cuando empieza con melo y dolor. Al final del día, hay un call de acción aquí. Y ese call de acción no es de nuevo. Las personas jews son una religión anciana. Es suficiente. En vez de el mundo, Kaden tiene mucho. ¿Por qué no muestra respeto? Es un argumento. Y al final de esto, puedes ver que los canciones están escondidos en la ciudad. Y eso es para symbolizar mi call que ha sido desde el día 1 para los canciones, que es para Israel. Eso es lo que queremos de ti. Eso es lo que queremos de ti. Y a todos los jews que han visto los canciones en Israel