 What's the best deal you got out of those guys for the publishing amount? The ass I gave $75,000 to. The ass, that's why he changed his name. Oh, well, because his was the biggest. And biggest. Okay. You know, he had more, because he was producing a lot of stuff. So you owe him rights to his stuff to this day. Prior to whatever he did from that point 99, you owe him everything, everything 99 back, bone back. Yeah, we on boss talk, one-on-one, one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk. When you get into the music, right? And you, and you start to, well, no, when you get into the fact of, yeah, you running the music side of it, dealing with these different things, how do you end up owning different people's rights to the music? Like you say, like, like now Snoop owns a portion or whatever the new death row is, how, what do you own and how can you even establish any right in it? Well, in 2000, from 98, 99, 2000, 2001, radio was running. I made all the decisions as far as people know. Of course, everything I did, I ran by show. I wouldn't visit that four days a week. Wow. Seven to eight hours a day or no four days. And then sitting in there, like me and you talking at a prison table, just talking to myself and running business, having people come up there, magazines, writers, his women, his parents, Afini Shakur, Jimmy Ivey, Brian Turner, all of them, just coordinating it, ran it like the office. How much money was out worth at that time? At that time, not as much as we were, but we still had two, I mean, worth, we had the catalog, 100, 150 million. Still at that time. Yeah, cause you had the catalog. Yeah. So Daniel, the chronic, you know, chronic 2001 board, he just sold that for 200 million today. See, Michael Jackson's about to go for 900 million. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, my point is, it was worth it, but we didn't know about streaming in yet. We, I remember, we still talking pre-streaming. So it'd be hard to say what it was worth, 97, 98, but we know what we had and what, you know, cause now we're free and clear. Shig was one of the only ones that owned his masters outright, when he was like, oh, I mean, during my time of running the company, I moved the masters four times from Interscope to Priority to a company called Deep 3 to Coach Entertainment. Well, you always talk like this and you make it sound so simple, but how were you educated enough to understand how to even move catalogs and even deal with music at that time? I mean, David Kenner was there, even though Shig told me not to talk to him. The only thing they let that nigga do is concentrate on getting me out of this motherfuckin' prison. So the attorneys. But I talked to people and it's sure, I would run stuff by him, you know, Michelin would be sitting there or Tammy and stuff like that, and we would just bounce the stuff off each other. And I mean, cause he was more focused then, cause that's all he had time to do. Even during the weekdays on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we on the phone from, you know, from, said he got on the phone about nine o'clock, he had a count and, you know, one or two, and you know, so I was spending, I couldn't even get it in the office because I'm on the phone with him, making three way calls and good stuff. So I mean, Shig was still really ultimately running this company. Yeah, but you were just pretty much the facilitator. The facilitator. But as you was dealing with it, you know, you evidently made some right moves if you still own rights to different things. How to move in that situation. How do you end up? How do you end up with it? That's what I care. Well, cause I was somebody he trust. Okay. And they were broke. You know, artists would come and need money or whatever and be like, hey, we need this, we need that. But we ain't really doing them. Now I'm with Tupac or Soundtrack here and there or, you know, a compilation album and all of that. If you look at my watch, we only put out about 10 albums and they were gang related, gridlock, Michelin album, which I don't take no credit for. There's Retaliation Revenge, Get Back, about four Tupac albums. Oh, then Chronic 2001 and Two Gates for Radio and then the DVDs, Two Gates for TV. What's the best deal you got out of those guys for the publishing amount? The ass I gave $75,000 soon. That's why he changed his name. Oh, well, cause his was the biggest. The biggest. Okay. You know, he had more, cause he was producing a lot of stuff. So you all writes to his stuff to this day. Prior to whatever he did from that point 99, you all made everything 99 back. Born back. Where he's anything he did after that, which wasn't with us, but anywhere else. That's why he changed the company, his name. If you ever look at this publishing, y'all see he changes to one of his daughter's name. Okay. And that's what the deal on that. See, niggas don't tell you. So now he trying to make the statement like, Reggie Forge my, you know, Snoop was recently Snoop called him in and said, Hey, what's this paperwork that I got? That's how I know they got the paperwork and all that. And he goes and say, Oh, no niggas over there forging my name. Okay, that's, well, make that claim. When I make my claim, because then you're going to justify why you got that $75,000 check deposited in your account. Wow. Wow. So, but you know, it's unfortunate that, that's how it happened. But to quite frankly, the answer to your question is because niggas needed money. They needed money. You got something to like it right now, this house I'm sitting in, but I need some money. White man ain't gonna, what they make say it will get you a loan. But most people will say that I'll buy it from you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'll supposed to be the nice guy and they say, Oh, here you go. Here's another advance. Oh nigga, you got something you want to sell it? Sell it, you know, keep it. Wow.