 Board meeting is in order. First item, public comments to be heard of anything that is not on the agenda. Anybody? No? Excellent. Moving on. Approval of the agenda. Any changes or collisions? No. No? Make a motion to approve. I'll second it. The motion to make a second is to approve the agenda. All those in favor of seeing the five are saying aye. Aye. Thank you. Opposed? Carried. Consent calendar. Thank you. I'll make a motion to approve the consent calendar. There's a second. Okay, motion is made and seconded to approve the consent calendar. All those in favor of seeing the five are saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Carried. Consent? Carried. New business. Move on to the which fire department bylaws. The which fire department has submitted to the town. It's newly member of voted on bylaws. We've had some conversations with our town attorney about the bylaws. Our attorney has asked that the board consider tabling the approval of the bylaws until he has had time to review our bylaw or these bylaws that have been submitted and also the bylaws that exist for Randolph Center and Randolph Village. Reason being that he's hoping to be able to at some point review all three, make recommendations that could potentially create a set of bylaws that apply for all three fire departments. And based on my comment to you earlier today, were you able to find out anything about their bylaws? I requested a copy of each one. I'm not sure if it's a good idea. I'm not sure if I'm able to find out anything about their bylaws. I requested a copy of each one. I do know that portion of the remaining two departments we do own and manage the East Randolph facility and everything else in it. There is a gray area with Randolph Center and that although we do fund everything and owns the most everything and maintain everything, there are a few TIs that we don't know. So that would be a potential contentious issue. Without saying more, we would be able to force changes for two by-laws, but we wouldn't be able to force changes for all of them, but we would hope to get some buy-in from right off the bat. But overall, our attorney said that having by-laws for individual departments, he doesn't see a problem with it. It does feel that they should all be uniform. It also feels that there should be references to the necessary mandatory policies like sexual harassment or illegal harassment is what he's now calling it. But also make a separation between firefighters when they respond to a fire scene, be clear that they are under the town's personnel policy. But when they're not at a fire scene, that this governs firefighters while not at a fire scene. So the two structures essentially, this would be okay if they're essentially governing membership of the fire personnel could have conduct while at the station. Rules that they would have to follow while at the station. Or procedures that they would have to follow to move up the ranks. But if they respond to a fire scene that they are down employees during the hours that they're claiming for payment. But I think there's going to be a huge overlap that you're not going to be able to cover. Because like chain of command and all those other responsibilities that are spelled out here now that never were before have nothing to do with any sort of town policy or overlap there. So you can't say this is just for the firehouse. It doesn't, it doesn't, there's no, there's no separation there. Right, we're going to have to find a better way to integrate whatever that personal policy is with the town hall, correct. The suggestion would be to add an addendum to the personal policy specifically for firefighters. So if it was personal policy, it blacks everyone. And then we could add an addendum to just volunteer firefighter force to say, when they respond, but to your point, correct, it's a gray area. Whether they're at a fire scene or whether they're on the way home or whether they're on the way to. Whether they're at a business meeting, whether they're training. There are a lot of gray areas that we would have to make less gray. But in order to, in order to be able to make sure that the town and the bylaws are kind of in sync, the idea would be, first step would be to try to get a uniformity with all the bylaws for all the, all the fire departments. And then the next step would be to add an addendum to our existing personal policy to say, yes, this is a personal policy for all town employees, but for firefighters, this is the one applies in one. And we could, we could spell that out working with the departments where as a whole. So full disclosure, Matt and I basically wrote these. So you guys have any questions? Well written. It was initiated because we had outdated bylaws. I mean, like 20, 25 years old was the last time they were updated. Still referred to the town and that whatever. Yeah, too much of the virus. Yeah. And so we felt the need to update them to manage our membership. Guys were unclear of their roles and what they were qualified for. And they're not fully able to update the document. And because we are, to my understanding, the only town home's fire department. We have to get our bylaws approved by the district. Whereas the others are a fire district and a provincial district. So why we own the town buys the equipment and things for that for the departments? They're technically managed, my understanding, managed by their districts. So they don't have to get approved by this board. So that's the gray area that we're talking about. Actually gray area coverage, the others, whether or not we can amend their bylaws for us being the board. That's what you're trying to figure out. That's what we're going to have to figure out. That's why he's asking the table to plus the overlap between the town policies. Yeah, I think I think you should have a conversation. And have the other two departments seen this yet? No, I talked to them about it. But because we've always been separate, I didn't give them a copy. Okay. But that's the intent is to share this with them. And so you can get it on the same page or not. And now that this is fully updated, I think this should be an excellent government for the town life uniform high-levels. We have to work with the other fire departments and their chiefs to say, listen, this is updated. There you're probably not updated. And then also potentially speak with them and say, state law says that if the town purchases all the equipment and maintains the budget and everything else, for all intents and purposes, they are a town fire department. Yes, the case can be made locally to say, no, no, no, we're not. But we pay the bills. We pay the bills we are. And if the town were to say, work with us to limit the risk to the town. And I'm not saying that this would happen, but if a district could be something that wasn't in conformity with the city or anything else, the town couldn't just say, we're taking back all of our equipment. None of you have the building. Yeah. Not that it would ever get to that point. But they're not going to keep me made on the town. How am I basis that they are a town department? But it is, like the Mike's point, very gray, because we've never had this conversation. So if you were going to share this, would you just have a conversation with the chiefs first and start there? Or would you have committees or? Well, as a committee and under the fire advisory, you have a fire advisory to start with the chiefs. Well, I think we're going to have to start with our attorney and see if we can actually start with the attorney. But at that, because it sounds like this makes sense that, you know, if it's our equipment pool leader that seemed like they all should be on the same similar page, let's put it that way. There may be some things they want to tweak. From my perspective, I feel like I feel like tabling it would be my recommendation to the board with the caveat that what was created in these bylaws is an excellent template. I mean, if, you know, if we could add something that our attorney feels would be appropriate for a town-wide basis, we could absolutely use this as a template for the entire town, because this is updated. And I would say table it and have those conversations with the attorney and then either fire advisory or maybe just start with chiefs, whatever you guys think is the best way to go. Probably a quick conversation with the chiefs and see what level of participation we'll provide after we hear from the attorney that is. So based on the 99 scoping study and the updated app that we'll end up proposing later on, I can see the statement in a couple of years to do that. Just on that out there. There's a lot of stuff in here that's particular to our department, right? I mean, what officers we have. We don't have the tenants, others do. When the voting is, how they vote, whether it's voice or payment, there's a lot of stuff in there that's, I don't see that being common across the departments. That's where it's going to get a more challenge. But there is information there, right, that could be shared across the departments. Yeah, absolutely. They may want to structure. They're structuring. The requirements are different. It's either an opportunity to say, hey, everybody has to have at least this. Yeah. Or, you know, it's going to be a bunch of disparate documents that have to be referenced together, I think. I think it's a good template to start with. They both want to tweak something a little different. That's probably, you know, starters, you know, officers and things like that. There's certain things that they're, you know, probably prior to the random department, but not necessarily applicable to them, and that's certainly a standard. So I would say, yeah, having them talk to each other, have a conversation with each other. See what kind of feedback we get. All right. Larry, any thoughts? No, that sounds good. Obviously, no rush to adopt this. We should put it off forever, but it hasn't been updated in so many years, another month or two, I think. So the rush is that we're operating off of the old bylaws, which leads to a bigger gray area of town employees versus fire department employees, et cetera. But it's been like that for decades. Yeah, okay. That's the kind of urgency of getting it updated soon. There's been about 10, 11 months for this one, getting it updated now. Again, to your point, it's taken a while, right? It's because you tried to be thorough. No, not at all, but it's definitely well done. Definitely, yeah, yeah. So we'll table it and wait until we hear from Adolfo and keep bringing it forward. Great, now I got to keep coming to board meetings for a while. We'll try to put you in front of the agenda. God, it's all business now. All right, special event permit? We received a request to issue a special event permit for past year company to sell spirited beverages at this weekend's Winter Festival. This is just for application. Okay, no new questions from the emails that we approved. All right, is there a motion to approve ratify? Second. Motion was made in seconded to ratify the application for special event permit for upper past year company. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed? Abstaining? Abstaining. Abstaining, okay. Three, zero, one. I'm sorry, are there two motions? There was a motion to approve the special events permit. Okay. It was approved three, zero, one, with period abstaining. Matt and Larry. Yeah. Renewable liquor licenses? We've now received four renewal requests. The first is for M&M beverages. The village, the second is for Floyd's General Store. It's brand off center. Middle branch market in Nellie. You need to brand off. And it's the DeXo operating item for my technical college. Show most of it, Floyd. Looks like you got two-sided. Oh, Larry. Sorry. Let's go, Sean. Champlain part as well. Yeah. Sean. No complaints about these businesses. No complaints from this business. I'm going to approve of the licenses for those eight. Second. All right. Motion is made and seconded. All those of you have received the property. Thank you. Aye. Those abstain. So here are four zero zero. Revised fee scheduled for the water and wastewater department. The water and wastewater staff and committee have proposed changes to several items that they currently charge for services. Several of those items include inspecting lines that lead into private property. Some include private or privately requested meter readings for folks that are interested in selling property or purchasing property. Most of these price increases are being asked because rates have increased in general. And many of these fees schedules have not been amended in many years. The highlighted items on the second page are the changes that are being proposed by staff. Some of the streamlining things making some of the fees simpler. Exactly. We did recently purchase. One of the recent additions is the purchase of a new sewer camera. The department realized that it could potentially increase revenue by inspecting sewer lines offering that service to residents who wished to have that performed outside of the normal scope of service. It is a service that is charged by private companies and we would essentially be offering that service to the discounted-graded insurance company. That is really the only new addition that's being added to the fees schedule. 10% markup on material is pretty high. It's over 2x what government standard is. I'm confirmed with staff as to how they reach their conclusions or how the YWISR community continues. It should be 4%. It's less than what we do with contractors. The material? It can be as high as 20%. Not including their fee? It's your take-outs. You wouldn't be approved for a government contract? No, no, no. The projects we bid out, the contractor's profit is more than that. The profit is different than markup on material. This is a fee for handling, holding, or shipping. Was it worth the 20%? No, he's saying less. What was it before? I think it was $25. No, no, no. We had, I don't know the current rate. I think it was 10%. I don't think that's changed. So just so I understand, so if the town gets called and they have pipe X on their truck, they're going to charge that plus 10% plus what? Is it just a flat 10% on top of the cost? Yeah. Okay. But that's from the curb stop to the residents? To the residents, yeah. That's based on private property? Not basically this. Yeah, it is. So how long does it take to do a meter reading? Not very long. I mean, they could really go in there 20, 30 minutes depending on where the meter is. We do have a device that's working properly. You can go in there, take a buzz, come back out. But it's also a matter of traveling to the property and then traveling out. 20, 30 minutes. It's roughly about 3 a.m. I'm thinking $2.25 an hour. That's for none. That's for the non-working out. I understand. Yeah. That would be encouraging you to get it done during working hours, right? Yeah. That's the intention there. It's a deterrent? I understand that. My understanding in the course of our conversation in the community was that the requested meter readings are almost always because there's been some sort of real estate transaction and they need a number for per rating. Yeah. And so the thought from the water sewer people are like, you guys know this is happening. Like, you should just make sure it occurs during business hours. There's pretty substantial costs to call people in on a weekend or an evening to do this. Is that why the hour minimum is 1 during normal hours and 3 outside of working hours? Yeah. They're all bargaining unit numbers so there are minimum requirements for coming in. So if a problem on the camera inspection, if a problem is found in the homeowners, there's no fee either for using the camera? It's a new camera inspection charge. So it says, hey, if it's found in porcelain, there's a task must be charged. Will it not be applied by the inside? Am I missing what the charge is? I'm looking here. Sorry, new camera inspection charge. So it says that if it's found, that it's the town's responsibility, there's no fee. Right, but if it's found in the homeowners, there is a fee. For using the camera or for the call? Yes. Where's the fee for the camera? What's that cost? It's on the other side. $100. $100. Oh, okay. Sorry. Any questions or comments from the public? It's a pleasure to award with the rates. Do you have a motion to do rates? Effective when? I don't know. Just in order to just approve it, then we could just as soon as we implement them with staff. Do you want a time limit like March 1st or something? Just as of tomorrow. Fine by me. Okay. Is that your motion? Yep. Prove your rates effective tomorrow? Yep, prove your rates effective tomorrow. Okay, your second? Second. All right. Motion is made to approve the rates effective tomorrow, February 15th. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstain? So carried. Thank you. Great. The town would like to apply for a highway transportation grant for e-trains. The grant is available. It has a variety of uses, but what we would use it for is a Class 2 road. We have learned that we are very high in the grant priority list because we have not applied for the grant for Class 2 roads. Number of years. If we were to apply, we would like to receive it. The project that we have in mind is repairing Windover Road off of Route 66. It is in need of major repair. We have sufficient funds and budgeted in our capital budget to meet the 20% match requirement. And if the border would approve us applying for this grant, we would apply for the grant and use the 20% to leave security in the capital budget. We do not have full estimate on this particular road because we are still working with contractors to provide us with an estimate. The length of Windover Road is not as long as Furnish Street, which is a road we recently performed work at Randolph Center. That project costs $120,000. The project itself was $120,000. We received a major grant from the state. So we really only paid $1,200 for that project. This one here, we would probably only pay 20% roughly about $20,000 depending on the cost of the project. You are looking for approval to apply for the grant? Approval to apply for the grant. We will show you in a second to approve and apply for the grant. Any discussion? Hearing none, those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstain? So carried. Whole business? Doesn't look like there's any? None. Okay. Other business? We haven't. Before we go into the manager's report and executive session, there's some public here. Anything you guys were looking to talk about tonight? No. Just being a part of the process. Awesome. Julie's here to help turn the manager's report. Okay. All right. Well, I just want to get public comments out before we get to there. I know you like the ramble. I can't. Any other business performance review? All right. So manager's report. We'll start with Julie's here to help present or co-present. Julie and parental area communities, development corporation, members of her board and representatives from the select board at a meeting for the last three, four months. We're working on strategies to how to continue to work together for the downtown designation program. At our last meeting, we felt that we had reached an agreement for how the two bodies can essentially continue to work together. Some of those strategies included working together, meeting together on a regular basis to work out strategies for applying for grants that are available for the designation program. Also ways so that we can maximize potential required manager reporting so that the town has some input on what is being sought in terms of information and we could collaborate a little bit more. I felt and I believe our board member represented us felt that the meetings were very productive. We had also represented it from the state agency that manages the downtown designation program. They have been very encouraged by the progress that we've made. We feel that we've made enough progress to be able to essentially build a very positive relationship going forward. Unless there were any objections, the goal going forward is essentially to start releasing funds that are earmarked for the downtown designation program. And also one of the reasons why I asked Julie and Julie to be here tonight was that we could talk about the grant that the board authorized how to apply for last week which is the downtown designation transportation grant. We feel that we have a project that would be great. It's a multi-face project that includes putting new sidewalks on Pleasant Street. I have some interest to share with everyone. Julie and I can add a little bit more about that. I'll give a general brief introduction of the materials that you're going to need for your review. So what you're looking at here is the intersection of Merchant Burrow and Pleasant Street. It's a very preliminary design of what we're looking to do with that intersection. Right now there appears to be a lot of waste in space. There's a lot of waste, intersection that just runs out. Julie and I, Bill Morgan, and I walked through that intersection and came up with a potential idea to reduce how wide the road becomes or to meet Pleasant Street which would allow businesses in the area to expand the potential outdoor seating a little bit more. On one end there's already a little grassed area that if we close we can increase the seating area. We can add some green stormwater mitigation which there is funding available specifically for this type of funding. And we have some images of the second page of the intersection itself. So you can see exactly what the intersection looks like with the stop sign pole right in the middle of the road. It's one of the things that we're hoping to correct. Julie, do you want to add something? What Bill mentioned in terms of meeting regularly is that we can get ahead of these grants in advance because these tend to be planning intensive projects. But this one seems like it's doable in the amount of time we have and we're not sure we're eligible for the clean water stuff but we can put it and do our best to add those components and get into that funding as well. And the nice thing about this is that it takes a really not very attractive area along that road the back side of the main street and tries to not only make it more functional but make it more attractive. And as we've got businesses coming in across the street you know trying to encourage more businesses, the new center for RASTA nearby it's I think due for some attention. Julie doesn't Julie, I didn't show this to you but what these are just images of Pleasant Street the image at the very top shows the portion of Pleasant Street that has a sidewalk end right behind Ken's Barber Shop and has up with gravel through that section of building that we walked the second image is the intersection of Merchant Rowe and Pleasant Street where the sidewalk essentially ends right at that intersection and the last image at the bottom of the page is the intersection itself of Merchant Rowe and Pleasant Street. So the idea would be to extend the sidewalk through the businesses behind Main Street so where these end on Pleasant Street all the way through where it becomes dedicated parking which would increase pedestrian access for people walking in and out of those businesses through those entrances on Merchant Rowe and Pleasant Street if we add an additional more sidewalk behind the residents that exist there it would be easier for our elderly who live in the red line in to be able to walk out and access that crosswalk and the intersection itself because it widens so unexpectedly at the very end we lose a lot of space and there's also the potential for that stop sign that's in the middle of the road to constantly be hit and knocked down over and over and over again so we want to be able to make as much use of the space as possible and we understand that we have businesses that are opening up there that may want some outdoor seating could essentially welcome them out when winter's over we are still working on pulling together the plan once we have the plan together we'll definitely bring it back to the select board so they can decide whether or not they like the redesign of Merchant Rowe and Pleasant Street if that's not what is necessary for the neighborhood then we could potentially just move forward with the sidewalks themselves and make it more easy for pedestrians to walk behind the businesses on Pleasant Street that's phase one our potential phase one next year Julie and I have already committed to continue to work together so that next year we make improvements to Print Street right now we have a business that's going to be opening up on Print Street we want to make sure that their business is going to flourish so the idea would be to potentially if necessary redesign the parking area in there make it more pedestrian friendly so that people can walk down to the bowling alley because there's a lot of traffic that makes its way down there and the road itself is is a needless and considerable work so that would essentially be phase two for next year I like this project I really like the idea of reconfiguring this much in seminar that's really a brilliant so that Julie and I we've been talking about as soon as we were able to come to the agreement on the downtown designation program this thing was just easy to just come out of both warheads that's a good project that really made that space feel a lot better clean it up, clean it up I think it will actually make it safer too to find a road better access to the new parking garage that can be the third project that's right, that's the next one there is a 50% match with this grant that's available to us through the downtown designation program we do have money available or put aside for some sidewalk work so any grant that comes to us is going to help us financially I know this is just a conceptual drawing but considering putting all the space on one side or the other we hadn't talked about that the idea was the first thought was to keep it as wide as it was and then put a planter a little island so people could walk through make a big flowerpot maybe the stop sign of the planter then that morphed to reducing the sidewalk width for the road width and Mario caught this pretty well understood but after we did that walk when I drove down merchants the way it's set up now if you look at the way it opens up it defines its own way that pretty much that it would go because it's already there's already a little on each side that bulbs back in that delta-like formation that Adolfo was talking about he continued that road and he'll have the proper clearances for the turns but it pretty much I think is going to define itself when an engineer gets out there because the roadways is already determined it's just at the end for some reason there was this big sort of very odd kind of shaped because it was a two-way street it was a go, that was a two-way street but it couldn't have had parking on both sides on those two-way streets so there I don't know if there's any of you driving down the street but when you drive down the street you can see where it has to go I think it's pretty obvious I don't know, I mean it can come out easily and come to a 90 on come on to a 90 on is pleasant and I'm just thinking that there's not a lot of restaurants that have a lot of sidewalk room for sitting out and if it was expanded on one side, whoever goes into Ashley's or real side or whatever it is it would be nice outside but if you only give them this little butt out there it may not be enough to put a scene there that's all I was asking if we gain proper sidewalk or lawn space is it going to be on one side or the other or both? you mentioned the possibility too of like in Montpelier in other places they've been experimenting with these to take a parking space or two and make it more community space and you could sort of play with that in the design and see if it helped at that very end to make that more useful area essentially there are like the temporary decks that could be put in a parking spot essentially it's like a continuous from the sidewalk through the one parking spot it's all outdoor seating those are things that are out there that's probably the concern you're going to get from local businesses there's not enough parking already and so safe tier three that might be the only pushback you get but I realize that it's a great project I think it would be really beneficial for that corner back the street David will love it to give him some more stuff David's going to love this and I'm sorry the sidewalk is going to go to federated stop through that like 18 rows back in there this morning and start again right behind the bank there is a street pole a utility pole so the sidewalk would essentially go to that point there and then slightly before that because there is a catch basin on the ground there we want to make sure that it stays ADA compliant 5 foot wide and if we build it all the way to that pole we may have to remove the catch basin so we're trying not to make it too much of a big project so we may and before that utilities pole and everything beyond that would remain driveway so the residents in that area or the businesses can still continue to use their loading docks in the driveways so from merchants to that pole or are you talking from Ken's to the pole I'm looking at middle of my GF from merchants row through the first utility pole or just before and then from Ken's would you go up as well from Ken's we would go to where essentially the first utility pole is we had talked potentially going through bar harbors initial area there is a section where it becomes head and parking so we could either go all the way to that point or just before that there was a it was unclear that there was all the ice and stuff whether the grade was too much and then there's also we notice a natural crossing the road area from the new coffee shop to the west side of pleasant street so we would end essentially that natural crossing areas a popular traffic calming practice is narrow lanes so if you narrow the lanes put the curb in there put a transversible curb on it so the businesses could still park they would just park on the other side of where your sidewalk is and you narrow the curb to the lanes down by a couple feet so go to 10 instead of 11 or 12 foot curb lanes just under consider when you get to that point okay road lanes I'm sorry are parking road lanes if they're going to park behind there and you put the sidewalk out in front of the utility poles you make your lanes from 12 foot wide down to 10 there's your 4 foot almost your entire width for your ADA got a lot of truck traffic on that street just sharing that well I was my concern I wasn't sure which road they were going to that's not so much there but going down if you narrow the lanes going down it might be a little bit of a struggle because it's already hard enough to get around the corner of the bottom the federated guy had a problem it took him a long time to swarm this stuff I mean yeah if you can get deliveries to the federated you're probably going to get deliveries to the lanes place you're going to fairly significant amount of truck traffic on that road we also did notice when we were there that trucks coming down merchant's row were making such a sharp because it opens up when it meets pleasant streets were making such a sharp turn to the left to head toward you know the point on back to the main tree area they were curving so far to the left that as they made that left turn they were traveling on the opposite side traffic lane for a few feet so if somebody wasn't paying attention they could potentially go head on but if you were to back that up and put a 90 there it would take care of that and that would fix that so that's that was that project and just also to share with the board that we're still working very well with RACDC on downtown designation thanks Julie come on thank you just to bug him quickly promise first item under that is the Governor's planning visit to Randolph on February 26 the Governor's building is scheduled as we speak and we're hoping to have board members' potential to volunteer to attend several events as they become public and available to us so that we could continue to urge the Governor thank you Julie continue to encourage the Governor to continue helping us here in our growth so I just wanted to thank the bug in everyone's ear if you're available on that day and are willing to attend these events please let me know 26th can't help you, sorry is there anything in particular which is on that particular day or I think that's the Governor's administration's capital in capital today so right now he's done these trips he's going to all the counties and so it's he takes the entire administration staff and they're traveling to these counties to do different things, look at different projects I went to the one at Windsor I was invited down to that one and one of the events down there was to talk about the Siler service so if they just pick topics and they select many times people in the community to chat about things feedback unfortunately I'm not going to be here but I do know there were some conversations about him stopping potentially at LED he was going to go to Limla in the morning for breakfast Orange County type thing so he's floating around the county and he's going to end up here is what I was under the impression he'll be here so that's a bunch of stops so if you're available on that day please let me know the next item is a conversation that has been ongoing with the board and that's revolving around our continued relationship with White River Valley Ambulance I've had an ongoing conversation with my counterpart in the town of Northfield he and I had a conversation today that was very promising he shared with his select board and his ambulance director the possibility of providing service to the town of Randolph the reason why they're willing to office is you and I have a good relationship and they also understand that our per capita rate is twice what payers is so the conversation now is at a point where we may be able to establish some form of agreement is very preliminary there are no heart amounts yet but potentially have new ambulance that they would be purchasing stationed in Randolph and our cost would potentially decrease there is no again no exact amount yet but the idea is that it would provide better response times because the ambulance would be in town and then also lower cost 24 hours some day week service it would be 24 hours 70 a week service there would be the challenge in that we don't have overnight services available in town I would like to purchase Murphy beds and put them in offices and make use of the gurneys inside the ambulance but that wouldn't fly so what we could potentially go back to Northfield to say well the ambulance could be here through the day hours and then evening hours they would respond from Northfield it's a bit of a challenge to get from where they are to us but given some of the response times that we have to Randolph Center it would be worse in those response times it would be traveling down the highway 10 minutes from the interstate where their bays are so there would be some special considerations that we would have to deal with we gain response time to the eastern side of town but you lose response time to the western side of town if they're coming from Northfield I think if this was considered it would have to be figured out for staff in here with the savings that we are identifying on an annual basis we could potentially build a second story on Randolph Charter Station very quickly again we don't have any amounts but Bruce Lane worked for $15,000 a year and adding a new story I don't know what that amount would be we had of course it was under $250,000 so we'd pay itself back within a few years but again it's all very preliminary Northfield is on board with continuing their investigation to give us exact amounts we're on board to continue having the conversation with them we'll also continue in the conversation with the world so that they at the very least know that we're exploring options so Northfield Angle and Service is a town paid Angle and Service and Norwich I think Norwich is a big University there for capital rate is roughly $30 to $35 an hour is at 63 and we have been informative we'll go up this fiscal year so it's quite a discrepancy yeah that's where we are with that issue Bell Main Space it's still hot topic in a good way there has been a lot of activity recently we have our partners with Pre-Mount Economic meeting with a potential occupant and that's going very well we want to make sure that the occupant releases their information as soon as they're ready to release we're also currently ironing out the initial details with grant funding that may be available for what the needs are of the potential occupant but for the most part it's looking to be promising and looks like it'll be very good for the town we should have more to share soon and lastly we had a conversation at this past week's Fire Advisory Committee a conversation revolved around being able to potentially fund a new study to investigate the needs of the town to investigate the capabilities of our existing apparatus essentially fund a study that could give possible main tumor operation or tell us whether we need more equipment or more of what we may not have our fire chiefs have agreed to meet they have agreed to start working on a potential scope for an assessment and they hope to whatever they create to bring it back to the select port review it with the goal of being able to assess our needs assess what we currently have and determine whether or not what we have is enough too much or if we need more of it that's what happened what did that happen Tuesday just checking I had a phone call so I was hoping that that did phone call was after that sounds good and that that's all I have for tonight okay so we're at the all exciting part of the executive session the main segment is the executive session with who treating us just you I will be taking the flag by saying aye aye thank you