 Hello, hello. All right, enough shameless Shameless dog there for you Show the dog off a little bit. How is everybody doing today? Yes. I'm live here in studio I want to thank you for joining me. Thank you everybody who showed up early to the chat see a lot of people here a Lot of people are excited to look at what we are looking at today And it's not just lovely cold the pug here Who is getting himself nice and snuggled in there and his bread with his buddies and Those of you have watched the show for a long time. We'll remember old Brutus. Well Brutus survived 14 wonderful years and now Cole has to step in and take his place as the dog of the dog of the shop pretty much So that's what Cole is. Hey, Edward roll Pats NDP X farm key Strong Don honk all you guys showing up here. Who else we got we got Tony Escobar self-elected Mark Bessert over clock wise and Then early on we have Thor see in Samsung. It's preaching some Samsung love So yeah, well, we're here to look at today. Well, it's not Cole again It is something more Rare, well, I don't know about more air. Let me get the audio is adjusted here. We're just letting stuff get in I was planning to go live right about 11. So we're right on schedule. It's not a little bit ahead of time and Hey late true noir noir Anyway, hope you all are doing wonderful on this Amazing Monday. I again have a treat for you first off. Let me show you something. I'm gonna go over here to my view of the pug and Then my desktop view right here where I have this This is one thing. We'll be going through a little bit is This amazing manual manuals for This be an oh be a vision MX 5000 unbelievable manuals this one has Any corrections that were made repair tips Just some stuff to look at Well, Brutus Brutus passed away at the end of May So thankfully we had gotten Cole. I don't know a year and a couple months before that so they were doing good together so Anyway, what we're gonna do is we're gonna look at some stuff We're gonna take a first look at these manuals, but before we do that, I haven't said I have even something better than that. I have oh I have some video. I Have some video for you of the B&O In our action. I went up. I took a first look at it This is one that I've got in my shop here to get serviced. It's not something you see every day the MX 5000 this is a NTSC set so it was made for the North American market, but only a couple of thousand of them Made it here and then from what I understand B&O pretty much pulled the plug on them pretty quickly They were made with some subpar Materials like bad capacitors so there's known to have leaky capacitors and There's a couple of things we'll see in the videos. I've got For the functionality issues with this monitor that hopefully we can fix but it's a monitor television It's a very cool piece of tech. This is the first time I've ever seen one in person So I'm excited to get to work on it this month And I have to try to get this done before the end of this month because those of you who know we will all be in Connecticut at the Retro World Expo at the end of August So if you're gonna be there, I hope to see you there, but I want to try to get this Whole restoration of this B&O television wrapped up by then and then in September We'll probably have a regular video on it because it'll be gone by that point but What we're gonna do today is again take a first look at this CRT with this footage I have I have gone out to my shop Tested this CRT some and I've just got that raw footage that I took from my cameras So it's not gonna be edited in any way. This is straight-up raw footage. We're gonna watch these videos and Yeah, so we'll see how this Television looks together I'll tell you some interesting things I found out about it and we're gonna find out more by using this manual I believe But that's we're gonna do so we're gonna look at this and if you're here for that That's great. Now a couple of other announcements really quickly to start off I'm gonna be recording an episode of the cathode ray podcast again right after this live show with Lewis aka Zez So hopefully we'll have some fun stuff there to talk to you about because I just had my 40th birthday a lot of Weird stories crazy things happen So if you want to hear more about personal things definitely check out the path cathode ray podcast That episode should be out later this week I also have a new episode about a very rare PC CRT and this is not one that I've talked about before this is actually from Dell. It's a specific model that Dell made and I say Dell made it. They didn't really make it it's it's a trinitron and I found out some interesting things about it the video will be later this week and It's not a huge lengthy project. So it was it's about an eight minute video So easy to sit through learn some cool things about it I also have a post that I'll be writing or I have written ready for retro RGB comm on The monitor itself with actually more information than I was able to fit into the video so definitely check out the post when that's ready all this will be out by the end of the week no later than Friday and I also will Hopefully be doing a show one evening this week between Tonight being Tuesday Well today is Tuesday August 8th and hopefully eastern standard time I could come on with you a night show with my friend the 8-bit Esquire and it will either be hopefully tonight Or tomorrow night or Thursday night. I don't know which night. I'm pretty available I'm just waiting to hear from him and hopefully we can get together and If I do get that scheduled, I'll put out a tweet and we will try to get a Q&A You know live for you guys so if you have questions come to that show and you can ask us live really almost anything and If you have questions, too, you can post in a tweet I'll make a tweet out and we were whatever they're called now an X right I'll post something you can respond to that if you have any questions that you'd like either one of us to talk about It could be about anything that has to do with CRTs or anything really So any bad anyway, some other people have joined us Alexander Jones Brian Harmon quest for glory. Thank you all koala koa Hello, I'm a fatty cat Thank you all again for showing up. Let's let's get past all that all the announcements are done We've been rolling for about five minutes So let's do it Let's look at our This is actually great timing. Let's take a look at our footage here from Our CRT all right, and I actually do have a little bit of a story here at the end I'll I'll share with you, but I don't want to I Don't want to skip anymore Let's go ahead now and we're gonna look at this be at oh, and I'm gonna play this footage Let me make sure that my audio levels are all right We're gonna start with Again a first look. This is all raw. I don't plan on using this footage for the actual video No, there's another as you can see Cole right down there So Everything should be good on here. This is the B&O itself. It looks amazing. I May interject some I'm gonna put my headphones on so I can hear what I'm saying because I did do some commentary for these videos So let's just let's just play it Gonna get the screen set just like that. How about that? Make sure I got some audio here. I Don't want to deafen myself All right, we're gonna take a quick look here At this amazing rare CRT it is in my shop this week and this is the B&O or Bang and Oliveson CRT This particular one is the She says MX 5000 is an extremely rare television as I said Especially here in the United States. Now if you're in Europe, you'll find these or Japan you may find some of these Pretty pretty easily but over here in the United States There's not really a lot of these and supposedly this particular branded or version of this television is NTSC I just wanted you to see the front Here's a first look it definitely has this glass coating over What is a shadow mask tube under there so you could tell it's curved on all edges But it has this amazing piece of glass over the top of that and just an incredibly beautiful sleek design All right, I'm gonna pause it for a second. I just want everybody to really see what I was talking about That was a quick look at the front, but it has It has just a beautiful Glass coating on there that was quite unique to this television. Of course, there were others that had glass coatings on them But it's one of the most unique features to this it also was not as deep as I had expected I believe this television is about a 25 inch television and It was just not as far and in depth as like a deep of a CRT as I would have thought let's continue on now with the video Beautiful sleek design here I want to give you a look at the back of this television and First let's take a look at this label the label says we have 1989 for a manufacturer date and Not a whole lot more of not a whole lot of other information a lot of inputs over here for RF and Then down here we have S video some Audio video inputs for composite and then there's some power connections to input speakers And this one has a stand that goes with it, but the stand is not here There's also these are just External devices that you could easily connect with this Set like a VCR and things but this particular one supposedly has this RGB input Over this scarred input. I've not tested this So we're gonna see what happens when I plug it up to this Super Nintendo. I Probably would do a full video on this set since it's so rare But this is a first look and we're just gonna do some initial testing before I start tearing it apart and working on it, so Let's look here at Our remote now this remote is one of the heaviest remotes. I've ever felt Really heavy. What do you think Cole? Cole's still trying to figure it all out Anyway heavy do your remote we do have power going to this so I'm gonna flip around Put this light behind the set Let's just see if I can get this to actually power on. Oh, I heard it starting to power on here and Hopefully we'll get a visual At some point There we go Okay So there's a TV running just an RF mode. I guess Let's see if we could change it over to an input Confused, huh? All right. So this was a part. I remember again This is raw footage and I just kept recording. I was trying to get it to switch over through The you know, it was stuck in a while for clock the remote is quite odd And I'll show you a little bit more of it here in a second Let's see. So what I did was I let's say I should be able to try Well, let's just see what happens when I turn this on so I turn on RGB, which I have connected Well, see we're getting an image. We're not syncing though Maybe it's like an auto Set interesting So it's like auto-sensing that but Obviously it doesn't accept this type of sync. Let's see what happens if I change the Cable to S video. All right, so that's what I did first off. I just hooked up the RGB and I know I showed it there, right? There it is and in this BCR one input now this top input is not for The RGB, okay, that's for a decoder or some type of a device that Would be specifically made for the television to do diagnostics these other connections here You'll see there's pinouts for that in this manual, but there's a stand I said very futuristic looking cool stand that moves a little bit and it's powered By simply plugging it into the back of the B&O And the same thing there's a couple of other power links you can use in here to power an external device most of the time maybe a VCR or a Stereo audio device where you could have external sync or external speakers and then I was Listening to the owner of this tell me a little bit more about the external speakers And the problem is I wasn't able to get it to sync Once I tried my first cable on RGB and That's it for the first video. So let's go to the second video And I'm continuing to run into the issue here Okay, so now let's just we're gonna watch this and then I'll respond give you some comment here And I'm continuing to run into the issue here where I can't get anything to sync to this set at all I have when I put in a Skart input it automatically switches to I'm guessing the input. That's what it looks like, but it's not syncing and This time I've used a skirt cable. That's different with C sync the other one did not have C sync and I don't think I have a sync on Luma or anything but This one's not syncing and then I can't get anything to respond on the composite video inputs So the only thing I can really try is good old RF. So let's see if we can get RF to work on this set Okay, so I tried a different cable a different type of skirt cable I have one with C sync and one with some other type of sync I don't remember exactly off the top of my head and neither of those would sync to the set Through that input. They were automatically being detected, but it was obviously a sync issue from that picture Now Martin Samuelson says here in the comments that the decoder input one You can actually use that as to channel one input, which is cool. I didn't know that So it's a satellite. You could normally plug in a satellite to that. Okay. Thank you for that information I'll test that later. But the problem Yeah, the menu is on the B&O or that's one other thing The problem on this set is I was not able to get anything Connected through the composite video or S video like nothing would even register when I put it in to the back of this Set at all so I can only get response from the RGB and it would sync and The owner of the set told me that he couldn't get composite to work either. So my My hunch might be is there's a problem with the composite video sync line probably somewhere along either the input board or Somewhere in the processing You know, hopefully something in there is causing this to not be able to sync Hey super guy, thank you for the 1999 super chat. Hey Steve. Good to see you. Well, it's good to see you too Thank you very much but so the Issue here was I couldn't get anything To to sync at first and that was my my question Jobus was is it actually a 50 Hertz television? I started to wonder that But thankfully I was able to get a signal in here, which I'm gonna show you in a second through the RF input So I was not able to get anything to display I definitely see how it could be. I mean, so it's a very real chance that it's a problem with that composite video input But now look, I'm sorry about the background noise here. I have a very bad Whatever air conditioner that was running at the time and it's gonna make an annoying buzzing sound in the background But as you can tell I was able to get a picture Into this set so I'm gonna play it now, and please just bear with me on the sound to get a signal into this set Believe it or not full color proving that it is in TSC. I Don't know how to get rid of that set TV clock We're gonna take a look at the manuals here and see if we find anything but the only way I could get this to work is going Basically to RF and I'm in RF mode. It looks really good for RF But there's no way you can make any adjustments on a set based on RF So hopefully I'm gonna figure out a way to get better a better signal into it. Let's just take a look at a something That will look good Again, I don't know how if I can clear that How do you get rid of that stop? No nothing wants to I'm gonna change the channel, and that's it the sound's not working at all. We are getting a picture though Clock is so annoying It's a very I mean, it's not an easy remote. It doesn't really tell you anything. It's just dumb. Let's set clock wonderful Let's do it. I didn't even know how to go down. There's not like a down arrow on this that works You press down it doesn't do anything. Oh You press over of course, why not let's put this press over and then what you have to press play who cares Okay No, if I get out of this I Press a menu. We'll even get out There we go. We got rid of the clock. We just let it sit it there. I think it's 2 a.m. on 2020 All right guys, it's just has a great picture. Honestly for our ear to I Was able to get the audio to work by just wiggling the cables of course on RF All right, there we go. Got some audio working. Gosh, this thing's awesome. Thank you. I had to work this and Get RGB going I bet it looks awesome Bass is thumping on that thing. All right What a climactic finish right there for that lovely footage. That's all the footage I have so far and Again, this is a first look but you could see a little bit about You know what it looks like around that set and How the cool design I mean very unique very awesome something that I Don't think is is estimated enough How much how much of an interesting CRT this is from my perspective but People in Europe have tons of these and I know they were available in Japan just not something we saw here a lot and The plan is to open this thing up and do a full restoration. So I wanted to take this first look so I could Go ahead and start tearing it apart and Try to understand it more kind of test it see if it even worked I went for a minute that I was convinced it was not even going to be a An NTSC set, you know, I thought for a second That we were looking at and like Cole's taking a lovely nap here So I thought we were looking at something that was not not going to be very Usable right so let me give us some Sorry about that Right that was probably way too loud. Let's go to here Let's get past a couple of these so now We can take a couple of minutes to First off get your reactions like what did you think? I thought it looked really great for RF Just from the initial testing. I would be very happy to use that If it only had RF just because it's such a cool-looking set But the fact that she can get start hopefully to work Edward had mentioned that The possibility is that the scar connector has a broken solder joint. Absolutely. That sounds like something that could be possible That would that would definitely make it not work So I will check all that Strong said that the remote menus it's servicing all this is brutal. Yeah, it's not you're right It's not very intuitive and I wanted to kind of illustrate that maybe even a little bit further by switching over here and Look at these Amazing Manuals right you don't get this kind of stuff normally With a item anymore, right? This is the the end of The height of the end of the era the beginning whatever for printed Materials to come with your set. Let me get us a little more light in here Take a look at this being a 5,000. Hey race welcome in. Oh Jjags asked me a question my favorite Favorite CRT that I own, you know, I Gotta say there's probably It changes quite a bit What I like the most is just gonna be something crazy man. It's like this or it's the prison CRT which I've highlighted on a live show before and My favorite professional monitor that I have or the bad thing when I personally have that that looks the best Is the Sony BVMA series? I have one with like a couple hundred hours on it and all the regular cards Martin's card lots of stuff, so it's a fun one and as far as PC CRT's I do have a PC CRT with like 2,000 hours on it. It is the GDMC 520 a lovely Lovely PC CRT Sony made Awesome set that's one of my favorites period and After that, I really like these I just mostly like unique ones. It's not so much about Beaches anymore when you go through all of them. It's like this Like I would love to have one of these in my collection so Anyway, this is the remote control right here, which I should have brought down But I left it upstairs. So that's sad bad by me, but it's really plain and has Very feel hard to figure out man But this manual goodness gracious, what do we have here like we have just about 38 Guess it's 38 pages technically With a preface, right? like a novel it says that V video system just to prove this video system is the first video system launched by B&O on The North American continent so this 5000 series is the initial is the initial Record-blake breaking MTSC model right here It's the Baio vision MX 5000 the very first to be launched in the North American continent right here, baby It also has other attachments it's talking about and the be a link 1000 system and Back here, this is December 1989 Lovely time to think forward and to be like yes, I get to have a B&O There is a motorized stand so this Has all kinds of stuff here. We've got diagrams at the bottom and back System can switch look at this. We have a whole a Whole section about the video switching and the video circuit So we're just gonna flip through this book a little bit Check out some interesting stuff This kind of tells us how to work through things main block diagram and the block design how it's designed It does say there's an RGB amplifier, obviously comb filter RF switching RF switch box has three inputs A, B, and C and three outputs So that's kind of what I believe is going on here because it's not like an input button on this television set Yeah, this is from 1989 This is when the year that this was manufactured and sent the United States was in 1989 and it came with S video And RGB Think about that this could have been something huge that just fell apart something went wrong horribly wrong So here's a little bit about this block diagram of the RF switch box So your antenna would come in the RF Wow, look at this. This is great. Can you believe this? Let me look at this stuff. They give you Tells you a little bit about the signals of tuning the real thing I'm interested in is Now this is more about the noise audio section right here the deflection circuit. Look at this This is great. I mean, there's a whole thing on the C diagram C and F For the deflection circuit. So if we go back here We take a look at diagrams That's B C would probably be right after that right C So it says here Now this should be our diagram and our block for our Circuit for our deflection So this is this is going to show us How the deflection works if we had to troubleshoot something and there was a problem We could really use these to figure out because what it does is it tells you the paths of everything And you it's so nice. You actually see You can actually see in here On this diagram it has the values for things Like resistors if you need to check them, but then you would have a part list also so it just Shows you a little bit more on there. Let's see what let's see what the next diagram This is the video output Right, this might be having the issues with the same quote C power supply D we're looking for F. Is there any E? E F. I see some D gauze high power areas right in here This looks like this is yes, isn't the power supply down here switching mode power supply and then the power boards and then All kinds of great stuff. So this is the kind of thing we're gonna open up in service are these boards Now Just looking at the rest these diagrams. I'm wondering if there's a part list back here Cuz I don't I mean nobody should have to look at a diagram to find that but It doesn't mean That we have to have that. Oh goodness gracious. I'm sorry. I know we're talking here. I just kind of roll through this So these are the outputs on the back CS video Now this see Right Okay, now this might be an interesting thing I might need to go up there and retry this Because this decoder this might be the Check it out because I see Where do I see it peripheral video receiver video Decoder sync right here for pin 18 And this just says SVH is why ground up here. I didn't try this So this might be This might be the reason I wasn't able to get sync on there is Because I wasn't going with decoders. This is all great. That's why you can find this stuff here. It's so amazing to have this right More about the power supply Does give you some ways to get through My goodness the microprocessor and through the remote by pressing some buttons. So there are some are some manual Ways, but this is also when you when you have like VCRs and all these accessories hooked up AV switching Okay I do not see anything about here we go See it says AB1 or 2 So that's the one I'm wondering If there's a problem Because I wasn't able to get anything to show up on composite video at all. It didn't even react Anyway, so there's a very great Thing here the remote's up in the garage. I might go grab it, but I do have to Jump off here soon. So I can get ready for my next show Now this is another one and This would have come out later Look at it gives you what is this? Oh a diagram. This is a diagram of the actual boards There's again the connections look at that Here's some specs here. Okay This is great. Here we go. I was wondering if I could find this let's look at the specs here together We've got into your C obviously, right? We said that 28 inch tube, but it's actually a 26 inch viewable area Picture tubes is a system is called a black matrix in line 118 degrees there's the settings the TV tuner range anything else important in here I Do not really see it That did is a heavy set. It is a heavy set 106 pounds. Yes, I Did notice that When I was moving it with the owner. I couldn't believe how heavy it was These are nice diagrams. So you could make your own custom cables if you wanted for this Thing any it really is for anything, right? Leakage current cold Run some tests like it gives you a test over here to do what? radiation the primary source of x radiation is In this receiver is the picture tube the tube utilized for the above Mention function in the chassis is especially constructed to limit x radiation emissions Hmm, it's telling you to test the antivoltage With a multimeter that it looks like 31,000 Kilovolts hey Zazz I know right radiation, baby high-risk warnings, so we're gonna We're gonna finish looking at this a little bit more again more diagrams, but these are the same I'm wondering if I could find a part list because if not, I'm gonna have to make my own part list This is this is even a nice is this I love things like this look at that Let's see this is how about this is cool. Oh Bump all right. So this is a technical bulletin. We have a technical bulletin from B&O On an issue that you will you'll get this would happen right if you get customers would complain This would turn into this where they screwed something up Thumping or interstation noise when changing channels on the MX 5,000 The noise will not be present in the television speakers This probably only occurs in the AV TV mode at an integrated audio video system They auxiliary output is not muting It says remove the cabinet back by loosening the four Phillips screws locate 06 module You'll have to modify that module. Okay Release three white plastic retainer clips Cues to swing module door open cut the copper foil between pin six and seven of Six IC 2004 mount a resistor from pin six to pin six of IC 2007 Close the module lock there were three retent restock So this is a something where you have to go in and physically snip some legs of these IC chips And an installer resistor and that's like oh, we forgot to add that to the bullet the book So that's the kind of thing that this this book has in it and That's kind of information It's really key. Yeah, I do have the remote. It's up there with the set. So look at though this though setup diagram. I Still do not see Part lists though. Oh Here we go. These got to be a part list, right? Yes, ooh Beat it. We got the list. That's this is the stand right here. Sorry. I know it's like crooked for you and me All right, this is the stand. So I'm finding some part lists. This is good What I need to find the part list for is look at this They make an S video breakout cable for your skirt Oh This is just so fun. I'm really wanting to find that This is the back of the TV How to adjust the tubes? Okay So here we have a list of parts Right, here we go PCB 6 PCB 5 and some caps. So this is the kind of caps we would need to worry about changing Or our set it's all listed right here. Oh, that's nice All the PCBs are like listed together power supply and deflection Right at the beginning list of electrical parts. This is what I This is what I wanted to see Perfect right here. This is what we need. We need listings of all these but Some of these parts are not going to be electrolytic capacitors Because they're nanofarads. They're too small So they're probably going to be some other type of materials That's what we needed. This is the stuff you would get when you buy a CRT like this You just get it and you know, that's the time we've lost forgotten all about Folks I know I know what you're thinking. I Know what you're thinking you wanted more, right? You want more you want more? What do you want more of the CRT the dog? Whatever you want more of I Promise it will be coming Very soon friends Thank you all very much for joining me today on this lovely special episode of Retro tech where we got to take a first look at Undoubtedly the one of the rarest CRTs and a historical CRT Very historical the very first B&O to make it into the United States and It didn't survive so there has to be a more of a story there I'd love more information on that and I will dig as deep as I can stand There's much time as I have so thank you all again for showing up I'm gonna go get refreshed and get myself ready to record the Zez Retro show, which I'm gonna can't even remember the name just kidding Zez cathode ray podcast Be on the lookout for that. I appreciate all of you guys for always showing up here again We'll have another live show this week. Thank you all for coming I have a wonderful day and I will definitely see you in the next one