 Big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako. What's going on? Nothing, I need to know my dad. Man, man, man. I'm here, man. This guy right here, man. Last time he's on the show, it, man, there was a few things that happened that I didn't know were gonna go crazy. It just went crazy on the internet, man. And they're like, man, what the heck is happening, man? And I look and they say, oh, he said this? And I was like, man, I never would have thought that a couple of you were just talking, man. My God, man, my friend. Ayatollah Marv is in the building. What's going on? Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley, Reveley. Man, thank you for coming back on the show. Yes, sir, I appreciate it. Man, you and, and I hear all kinds of stuff, man. I heard some threats. I'd heard one guy had threatened, I thought it was on Clubhouse, a guy threatened to jump on you or something. Oh, that's, that's, that's saying that on Clubhouse, man. And I said, he was going to knock me out. What? Are you, are you even on Clubhouse? No, I don't even know. I don't know what Clubhouse, Mickey Mouse is Clubhouse, man. How did you end up even hearing about this? They called me and told me, man, what, what 100 say he's going to knock you out when he see you? And I'm like, how that's going to happen? Like, who do that? He's just going to walk up to you and just knock you out. Just knock me out. So I was, you know, I'm like, okay. Does he live up there with you? Huh? Does he live in LA as well? Man, lives 60 miles away. He ain't, he ain't been in California and Compton in his life, unescorted. Oh. He's, he's just talking. And so yeah, I heard about it. How did the conversation go? Do you got it out? The conversation went like, I don't, he said that I was, well, I was on Adam 22. Okay. And Adam 22 asked me, was he from, was he a pyro? And I said that he wasn't from Compton. So this happened after your interview with Adam 22? No, right. After? Yeah, that's what he said. Okay. Let me show you, let me show you what he said. So this happened the other day. This, wait a minute. So we ain't. So, okay. Nigga, you don't. Have I ever said I ran pyro? Yeah, sir, you indicated that. Well, I do. That's me. Nigga, you what the fuck? Motherfuckers, I don't know you. And I say he's not from Compton. Fuck, I said, what did I say all over the state that you, I think that you run pyro? Nigga, you don't. What's the point, bro? That's what happened if you don't. I'm curious, how did that call happen? Huh? That's Reggie Wright. Reggie Wright, Jr., put me on the phone with him. And this happened how long after? This is how it just happened Sunday. Oh, this is Sunday. This just happened. Okay. He had been, because he's, after he said. And this was because of what he said on Clubhouse. After that. That's when he said he was gonna knock me out. So when he said he was gonna knock me out. Oh, that was your response to him. Uh-huh. This is across the street from where the sugar ran over. It's a town. This is a garage. Wow. You can still throw hands? Huh? Can you still throw hands? What? Well, I do this. Wow. Let me ask you, man. So this here, this happens just so fast because they go on to the no jumper show. Once y'all go on a no jumper show, you lead a no jumper show. He jumps on Clubhouse after it comes out. Say 72 year old man, I don't know this nigga. No, he said he don't know me. But let me show you. And this nigga was acting all timid. We was so and so and so. He said he don't know you. He said, I don't know nothing about it. He came to some event last year, 18 months ago. And this one, one of my partners, his son was running for mayor. And I was there. He was invited, right? Let me see that. So this is 2015. This is game doing a video with Drake. Okay. Okay. This is Waco right here. That's from the West side. That's Waco 100 right there. Acting timid. Here is another, with pictures smiling. Man. Okay. This is white boy Rob's son right here. He's from Cedar Block. Him and game get into an argument. If you look, you see you have a gun, right? When Waco 100 seen the gun, he took, man, he got a gun. Him and Drake went to the back. All that shit about, he didn't jump up for game 2015. So he ain't doing, he wasn't doing none of that. None of that. So this man say he gonna knock me out. You know, he hit this boy named Stitches, a white boy. Yeah. Yeah. Blindside him, didn't knock him down. Do you think I'm gonna let a little nail like that knock me out? I just wanna see how that work. He thinking because you're older. So he can look you. All right, but I haven't been, I've been gang banging since 1959. I've been in every major state prison in California. I ain't got no gang of hickeys upside my head and stab wounds. I'm the aggressor. I am not, I'm the predator. I'm not the prey. Right. I'm active. I walk these streets every day. I don't hide. I'm not in Dubai. I'm not in Al Capoco somewhere. I went to his hood. He came in, he grew up in Pocomba, but he can't represent. So wait a minute. That was where you just, was that when you took that, took the. Yes. You was in his hood. Yeah. And you say that's where I shook night down. What? No, no. Where that was, that was in Compton where shook night ran over our homeboy Terry Carter. That's 142nd. Okay. But you went to his hood as well. I went to his hood. He wasn't nowhere to be found. And nobody, you can't be there with his own homeboys. They don't even own him there. All that talk. They talked to mess him up. So he can't be in there. Now he didn't put a bag down. He said he was going to knock me out. Now he going to kill me. He going to hire somebody. He ain't going to do it himself. Yeah. He said, you going to die, nigga. So repeat again why he said he wanted to knock you out in the first place. Because you went on Adam 22, you went on a no jump. I went on Adam 22. They asked me, was he from, was he a pyro? Right. And I said he wasn't from Compton. So you're really not answering the question if he was a pyro or not. It's just the fact that he's not from Compton because there are other pyros. A pyro says. All around the world. The dudes from Pacoima, they say on Pacoima. Right. Dudes from Skyline said on Skyline. But they're still pyroo. They're still pyroos, but they claim they hood. Right. So how you going to be the national spokesman for the pyroo card? Nobody assigned you to do this. So you just on pyroo, on pyroo. Just running your mouth. You supposed to be on your set wherever you're from. Whatever your set is from. Okay, I got you. You know? So it, nobody's standing on it. It's just like dudes tell me all the time. Man, I've seen you out there with Charleston white. More of you should have got up and slept that nigga. But you could have caught a plane and came out here too. And did it yourself. So you in Compton telling me man, you're married, why didn't you slept that nigga? Why didn't you come with me? Right. So everybody have their own view of what should have happened. But didn't nobody take arms up. Man, I hate that nigga Charleston white. You ain't wouldn't seen him. Oh man, yeah, fuck white, fuck this. But if he buy you a car or something, you're rolling with him. So it's not like he ain't got a bag that can have me killed. But I don't think no pyroo gonna do it. Right. And some of my homies the other day just hit me some crib probably. Man, what's happening with that? What we need to do. This is all media entertainment. He really don't want no smoke with me. Wow. So, and I hate to even leave that subject, but last time you was on here, you was talking about people who were in the entertainment field and Chris Brown name came up and he, it was a rebuttal cause he said something on, it was on drink champs on Nori's name channel. He said, I ain't clicking in. I ain't, you know, cause he basically felt away because it was like, man. You know, and when I said, did I say that on yours? Yeah, you said it on mine. I'm just talking. Sometime you can just say, I have nothing bad to say about Chris. Right. He represented. And when I was saying that dudes come in the neighborhood and do this, I wasn't actually referring to him. You just used him as an example. Which he hasn't done, but it wasn't his fault that he didn't do anything. Nobody demanded him to do anything. He tried to deal with Fruit Town. He did. And yes. And they stole from him. So he disconnected himself from him. So you don't keep feeding me if I do you bad. Yeah. That's logical. You know, but for dudes that come in and claim your neighborhood and then go spend $25, $30,000 on a strip club and won't get a studio for your young kids to come holler in to do rock music for it. I think it's injustice. And that's for any hood that these dudes are claiming. And I could take you to Compton right now. And I couldn't take you to a black restaurant to eat. We don't have it in Compton. Wow. Why? Neskins took over. We gave it to him. Right, because. Well, I couldn't take you to a club so you could sit out and have a drink in Compton. The streets is rolled up like Mayberry at seven o'clock. If you're not going to the jack in the box, McDonald's or Taco Bell, you're not eating in Compton. Wow. That is crazy. And first black run city, West of Mississippi. How do we, how do we, how do we fix it? Start killing some of these politicians. Wow. Wow. We've had 14 mayors in the city of Compton. Was the first black run city west of the Mississippi's. And we don't have a Martin Luther King. Every state in the United States in the South is a Martin Luther King. But do you think it's a people's fault because they can go out here and vote all these people out and vote people that should be in there who to help? And these Negroes's vote, I remember one time Omar Bradley's father had passed, Groucho. And one of our statesmen, Reverend Fisher, was officiating the funeral, right? And he was talking about Groucho and Groucho's life and he was talking about the kids, don't cry for Groucho. He said, let me tell you this story. He said he had this gardener, this Mexican gardener was a good gardener. And he came home one day and his wife said, kill, like, fire him. He gotta get out of here, fire the gardener. She said, he cut my prized roses. I love these roses. And he didn't cut them and put them in a bundle and fire him. When Jose come, he say, Jose, man, I like you, but I gotta live with my wife. I have to fire you, Jose's. He said, you cut her prized, he says, Reverend Fisher, the flowers had got their full bloom and they were taking up the sun so the buds couldn't drop. All of these old cones is not letting the buds flow. So the young kids have nothing to do with nothing and we steadily smashing them down, sucking up all, we need to get a campaign. And every morning, these old people, we need to shoot them all, get them out of the way. I gotta ask you about that jacket you got on Deffro. I love it, love the fact that you got it on, but you go so far back with chug and just the interactions that you guys had when that whole thing was on the rise, that campaign was going. There was a lot of money involved. It was a lot, they needed security and all kind of stuff. How did you end up linking with chug night? Actually, when I first got out of prison, we were over at Newtas Park and chug and Jewel Lim came with the idea and he was like, man, you ain't banging, get out the park. And he said, man, I'm trying to start Deffro. I just left San Quentin and it sounded like, whoa, that sounded hell of a to me, right? So they started a little campaign. I was in Ironwood in 1994. I hear Deffro was popping. I get out and I see dudes as X crackheads. They all got Deffro chains on and Acura legends and doing this and that. And I'm like, man, come on, get with the rope. But I've never gone alone to get along. So I never made a dime with chug. I never made one penny with him. Nothing. And so when he did his thing, they went to the pinnacle. I was on the set with Park in gridlock. Then she was brought on Reggie Wright Jr. as a security. And the police came in the nation of Islam. We got out and it went on and the untimely demise and everything started going down. By 1999, Deffro was finished. So she'll start going through his heartbreaks, getting these bad deals and not knowing how to replenish yourself. So now that Snoop has bought the, bought the name Deffro. Correct. That's why I wanted to. So I feel it's a testimony to Compton. I mean, it was the biggest, biggest record corporation on the West Coast. Death row records out of straight out of Compton. Only thing bigger than that was in WA, but they never had the money. Deffro went to $147 million known all over the world. There's some of the most powerful music. And they say a money in full soon. The part. Yeah. No, you're exactly right. You know, so people like, man, why are you rocking Deffro? Because it's Compton. You can't say Deffro without saying Compton. A dude was asking me the other day about one of the little homies. He got political on me and was talking about the nation of Islam and how the nation of Islam had Malcolm X killed. Right. And I said, well, first of all, you have incorrect information, but I wouldn't like that. Let's ask you this. Do you know Malika El-Hajjabaz? He said, no. Who is that? I said, when Malcolm left the nation of Islam, he became Malika El-Hajjabaz. He wasn't Malcolm X anymore. But the only way that you know anything about Malcolm X, he has to go to the nation of Islam. You have no benefits of Malcolm X today. No Malcolm X foundations. They don't have Malika El-Hajjabaz Boulevard in New York. They got Malcolm X Boulevard. And the Anubilaj Muhammad gave them that lane, just like, man, who knew us before Charleston White? Before we got on this platform, didn't nobody know me? Mm-mm. Now I walk around people, hey, I told her. So are you mad at Charleston? Well, hell no. I'll do everything but kiss him. You know? Yeah. So you have to give credit and credence to the people that built you. And that's what I'm about, and I think it's amazing. I did Dre Day for Dr. Dre. He's the first black billionaire out of Compton, California. So I did June 19th. Kids don't know what June 19th means. But now in Compton, June 19th, it's Dre Day. Wow, great. That's great. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. So we have to be, oh, we all talk about when we were kings and queens, we don't know nothing about that. Let's deal with the winos and crikey as we used to be and go from there. Is there a story? I also, Whitney Houston, you knew her in person? I worked with Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston. How did you even link with Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston? Through Captain Shahid Muhammad, my captain in the nation of Islam. I worked with Barry Hankerson in Black Ground Records. What did you do for Bobby and Whitney? Just kind of security premises? Man, you know what would make it so cold? Grown people don't like me, but children do. Okay. And so Bobby Cristina, I didn't chase him. I had Bobby Cristina, Prensia, and little Bobby Jr. Wow. You dig what I'm saying? Because I don't mind going to the parks and the shows and the ones I'm spending your money. So then after they went back, Whitney is an amazing lady with all her insecurities. She's a Leo, a lion, a growling, but got a gang of insecurities. Wow. B Brown, he's a space cadet. Me and him born this day apart, Aquarians, right? So everything, they thought that once they got Whitney away from Bobby, that she would be all right, but she wasn't. She started messing with Ray J. And I wasn't there, but I understand Clyde Davis said, she worth more than me dead than she is alive. Wow. So mysteriously, she didn't took an overdose and drowned? So you don't believe that that was... Do you? I don't believe in the good tooth failure. Do you? I don't believe in the good tooth failure either. And I don't believe rabbit's legs. And then Bobby Christina turned around, started messing with a guy who was supposed to get $50 million. And she ended up a year later dead the same way I'm... The same way that tripped me out. It tripped you out, don't you think? That's suspicious. Wow. That's crazy, man. Crazy. But who would, who do you think did it? Who benefited from it? Clyde Davis got some billions with her catalog. He had all the insurance on her. I didn't do it. But what would he gain from her daughter? Because he didn't have to give her the $50 million. Yeah. Wow. That's something the way... So I'm just not... That's the story that I'm telling. The facts are the facts. And her family? So it wouldn't pass down to her family now? Like her mom and... Well, they show you how life is. Once all of this happened, and Bob knows a lot about the interactions of what happened. Right. Now they gave him a TV show and he's back on tour. And he's back with new addition. New addition didn't want to deal with it. Because they didn't like his attitude. But now you have to weigh what a success. You know, I heard a thing they said about Michael Jackson when Mike died. And they asked his family, do y'all want to go back to Ohio? They say he's from Ohio. What's Gary, Indiana? You got... That's one son gone. You don't want to lose everybody. So let it go. Wow. Man, you being in California, man. You know, it's a lot of scenarios out there. We just interviewed Kenya Ware. And she was telling us about the night when Tupac got killed and she was in Vegas and she was talking to her right before that. He was in Vegas that night? Yeah. So a lot of people say that she had something to do with it. I'm just telling you. Even being in the car. That's a scenario set up. But you say, well, have you been to Vegas? Yes, a lot of times. And on fight night at a Mike Tyson fight, Las Vegas Boulevard is packed. Right. Bumper to bumper. You got a trail car. You got police in the car and you got another car. California. Gay Vegas. We're territorial. We don't know your turf. Yeah. So you think that somebody with no formal ground technique can come in front of traffic, make a U-turn in front of these cars. Where do you go on top of the curb and run over the pedestrians and shoot in the car and nobody got the license plate? How'd that sound? Wow. You was. I never thought about it. You was there. You was there in Vegas. Were you working with Mike Tyson then? You was. So how did you end up in that relationship with Mike Tyson for us? One of the other brothers, Lowe, had got canned and Captain Shahid Mohammed put me on that detail. One of the best details I've ever had. Mike is a genuine. I mean, he's one of the best people you could ever have. Why do you say that? He's a giver. He's a dude, the persona that you see around regular people. Man, he would give you anything you need. He'd come over to my mother's house and sleep on the couch. So he would come to your mother's house? Yeah. And so what would conversations be like with Mike Tyson back then? Well, we come from the same piece of cloth. He wasn't in prison. I was in prison. So he was a Muslim. We went to Juma prayer together, you know? And like I say, I'm not a go to along to get along. If I feel like something's supposed to be done, I'm going to say it. Like, bro, it's not a good look. Everybody else want to do what you want to do because you pay in the tab. That don't work with me. Else you don't need me. But Mike Tyson don't need no bodyguard. He can beat up every and anybody that comes his way alive. You see, I put it self because I can knock you out. You sue me. What you going to get? Some parole? Mike said hit you. He was going to sue him. You've seen him when he had a fight on the airplane. On the airplane, yeah. So he should have had you right by his side when that happened. Yeah, I blew that. Behind the situation, I talked about getting my house burglarized. And I went to the feds for a year. And so do you think you like Mike Tyson? He got a new show or podcast that he's doing, man. And he went off on Boosie on there. He doesn't say it's stirring things to a lot of people on there. Is that right? You got a podcast? He got a podcast, man. And he's doing his thing on there, too. I'm getting ready to get him on when I do this Potscrow Farms podcast. I only do a smoke on there all day. That's all you do. He would love your podcast. Yeah, he definitely would love your podcast, man. So, man, would you ever be willing to sit down with Wagg 100 and discuss, hey, man, solution or resolution? I just got to die, huh? You said it. Your word is bond. He could have checked this bag out. See him see this bag on there. So, I mean, it was a hell of a stern conversation when you guys had, when you exchanged. I seen that it wasn't, I hadn't heard that one. I just heard the first one where he had spoke on you on Club Out. The one you just shared, I hadn't heard that one. Did that happen over just a personal call? That's a personal call. He called his cell. He said, well, I got 30 minutes of tape on this nigga and don't make me pull it out. But at the same time I heard him clicking, I clicked, too. Wow, you'd be thinking. Yeah, you don't. Yeah, so, I mean, at the end of the day, I don't know if there ever is closure when it comes down to stuff like that. I mean, when you talk about killing somebody, knocking me out, okay, that's neither here nor there. I never took it to you like that. Because it was knocking you out on the Club House. I'm going to knock him out. I'm going to knock this old ass out. But after talking to you on the phone, it was, I'm going to put a bag on your head. Yeah. Where can we meet? He said, wherever we meet, you're going to die. Well, suppose you die. No, nigga, we're going to meet. Well, where can we go do this at? I'm going to show you what this bag going to do. Man, you did 20-some years in prison. 25. 25 years. I don't think that's the first time that somebody's tried to say they was going to do this or that to you, right? No. I ain't got no gang of hickeys on my head either. Those stab wounds. You can pick a number, get in the line. A lot of people want me dead. Wow. I mean, it's just the relationship that you guys have built, like, for as, you know, entertainers, people know you. It ain't like you use somebody that people don't know. He finds that out after he speaks and say what he says. After. You see what I'm saying? Just like he's the West Coast Charleston White. Wow. Just tall. So you see him as Charleston White of the West Coast. That's the West Coast Charleston White. The exact same. He didn't ask for 147 phase and ain't fart nobody. Yeah. He didn't ask for what? 147 phase. Nigga, where you at? I'll pull up and he ain't fart nobody yet. Wow, man. Well, man, hey, man, thank you for coming on the show, man. It's been an honor and a pleasure, of course. A blessing, man, to have you back down here in Texas, man. It's Texas heat, man. They said it's big in Texas. Well, that ain't your first rodeo, man. So, hey, man, thank you so much for coming on the show. Appreciate you. Man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 with a Boss's Talk. And we out.