 So there's like I said, I was trying it. I'm trying to do something every week That's different and weird and new And something that I don't think at least we haven't done on this podcast I don't know if they did it on the old one at any point. I want us to pitch a Zelda film and I want us to come to an agreement on Which game it should be based off of if any? actors composers and directors Oh my gosh, I want us to build build the perfect Zelda film So I guess we should start off with Which game should it be based off of? None of them. Okay, so you say none of them. Why? because the very best films Because there's always a fear with video game movies that's gonna suck right like that's always a fear and Usually it ends up sucking because it tries to follow a video game that wasn't designed to be in a film form So I'd rather it be something that's more based on the world of Zelda than being based on an individual game Because there isn't enough story in those games To make it work and I know that means you can fill in a lot of the gaps But again, Zelda fans are fickle. They already have an idea of what happens in those gaps So you kind of kind of go off on Something completely separate from the Zelda universe. That's based in the Zelda universe Yeah, and uses some of the things from like the Triforce and you know master sort of like bring some of the traditions in But don't don't base it on a game, man. I mean, I know that's gonna build hype It's also gonna be bad. Well, yeah, for example, if you want to see how it would like Oak Green have time would work in a Zelda film I referenced this a while ago look up the Hero of Time by B&B finishes There's like it pretty much goes as you'd think a Zelda film would go in terms of where you start out You have like this dungeon and then there's a montage of other dungeons and it's it's like that's it's pretty much The formula for a Zelda game in a movie and I agree with that I don't think this should happen like I'm thinking like in my head, you know We we see different characters develop we see Ganondorf come to power or or his rise to Tyranny or something and no, I will say this If they want like if we want this to be like Canon like part of the main line of stuff because like I guess you know when you think oh something That's based in the world but completely separate and fans might not care as much. I could see that Then it should be something that takes place during an era We know exists, but we don't know anything else about it whether like the in prison anymore You know or whatever happened with the Sheikah and if they split up and all like stuff that we do not have any Details for that could easily be filled in with like a film or like a TV series Without necessarily infringing on anything else as long as we know the general the kind of the general endpoint Like we know we might not know how the imprisoning more ends, but we know what exists after so as long as however ends can possibly lead to that existence Then we can basically be fine with it. I feel like they'd have to start off with an actual if they wanted to build that kind of a universe Yeah, have to start off with a Zelda film with like the main line characters in it before they did like a spin Yeah, yeah and see I think if they're doing this elephant This is why I really like that separate from the Zelda series But based on the world idea because we almost get a new link in every game So if this is gonna become a series people are gonna get connected to though a certain character like link It's got to be a series of one character going on adventures So I mean I guess they could just recast link every single time be like James They really want yeah, but like well even James Bond like they have like one guy go for like five or six like you know link for One two three and then the next one, but it have to make a story point of view because yeah at this point I like Like a James Bond it kind of sort of makes sense because 007. It's just it's not really the guy's name It's that's just like the agent name so like It's kind of clever how they actually set that up where it could just keep working The Zelda is not really set up in that way outside of I mean Story-wise it is like there's the curse and there's all this stuff going on like it makes sense as a video game level It that I just don't think would make sense on a screen You have to explain all of that if you wanted to go with that explanation Then you'd have to pretty much do skyward sword the film Yeah, and I was and I just I want something totally separate. That's just based in the world That's just really what I want. I mean Yeah, I just can't think of any other way To really go about it Like I can't think of any Zelda game that would make a good movie like I could think of oh It's also cool that or career time as a movie or try that princess or skyward sword Only between worlds like these sounds all this be awesome to win that I think about my kid doesn't really sound like There's a movie like I can see different points from those games being made into like yeah like specific Yeah, like specific moments. I I could see You know like there was that this didn't happen in the game So there that there was that one fan short that had Sheik or Zelda talking to link Intimately during a moment in our career time that never happened in the games But totally fit into the universe And it was kind of a precursor to Zelda becoming chic And it was just a beautifully crafted scene And there was a couple a couple mistakes that they wanted to be cleaned up in a real release But like that kind of stuff works in a short. Yeah Hey Like we're talking like a film, right? Like that shorts like Nintendo's like Pikmin short stuff It'd be like a full-fledged movie and I think that that's we'd they'd have to start yeah for one It's kind of like yeah start over again and just use the series as like a reference point rather than like a guide Like use link use Zelda use Ganondorf and Sheik or Impa and all those characters just don't adhere to a specific source material Yeah, like like do your own thing with it because I think that's the only way it's gonna work And to me I think it's the only way video game movies really work in general is if they do their own thing with it just The thing is I really like the Super Mario Bros. Movie that totally did its own thing as well But like don't do go in that direction And I guess I kind of gets into who's gonna be the writers isn't gonna be the actors The director I think we're diametrically opposed on that Super Mario Bros. Film, but I'm not gonna go Yeah, well, there's a lot of people that hate it. I I don't know why I just as a kid I like it. It's highly entertaining to me. I see I like the Zelda cartoon series, too Like I wish that didn't end I Don't know it's just I don't know why they're entertaining to me Like it's not entertaining in the way like Game of Thrones is like Game of Thrones is a whole new level But I don't know anyways I'll be kind of an agreement that it should just take place outside of the zealomers, but should be you know Reference it be its own own film basically Yeah, you like started out split off on its own timeline before everything else began If that's the way fans want to think about yeah Okay, so we'll work a little bit backwards then who would you like to see compose the music for the film? Like I can think of a few right off the top of my head. That's a very good question I mean like part of me wants to say Koji Kondo just because the easy answer. Yeah, that's the like that's the easy answer He's done so many Nintendo stuff. He's proven you can do or or crystal stuff, which you would obviously have in this film This is where I have to sadly admit I don't follow the composers Very much like whoever did the Lord of the Rings music was brilliant. I Don't know who it was, but it was brilliant like that music just Something like at that level. I Don't know if it has to be that person or multiple people I Mean mean you seem to obviously have a few people mind like who are you thinking about well? off the top of my head like I'm thinking people like Michael G. Hino He what was the last movie that I saw oh he did Thinking to Dr. Strange soundtrack just phenomenal. Oh Jenny. Yeah, they have the music and that was awesome You know instinctively my one of my favorite poses are all time just John Williams Okay, I don't know if his style would fit with a Zelda film though He's very you're just someone you personally like yeah, he's very he's very brassy. He uses a lot of trumpets I don't think that that kind of yeah, that's a dozen. That doesn't fit It has to be like Maybe maybe maybe maybe it's trumpet of time. We're making And then I'm thinking oh my gosh Some someone that would be I'm gonna try to remember get his name correct He did the Clause bedelt the guy that did no Who did the ah? So the guy I'm thinking of for Lord of the Rings was Howard shore. Yeah Okay, yeah, I'm thinking I Really, I really loved his work But see that's also me thinking like that's a high fantasy series And then like cause bedelt he was the guy that did The first parts of Caribbean film or did some of that music? Okay, and then Hans Zimmer would be really good because there's a very Vibes in terms of music Whatever is as Far as I'm concerned my only off-limits the person I never want to score that movie or score any movie Well, that's not sure you did really good on the Deadpool film is Junkie XL I Didn't really well I didn't he for he his style really fit Deadpool. Yeah, it fit Deadpool I didn't really like it that much in Batman v Superman or yeah Captain America Civil War. I wasn't a huge fan of that Yeah, it just felt okay in those movies. Yeah, I'm Maybe safe I guess is the way to put it Do we mention him John Williams? Yeah, but he's very trumpety He is he is very trumpety. I just really love The work he's done. I know this is movie his movie list for composing is amazing But yeah, again, you're right. I keep thinking of his music. I don't think that would be it's very very brassy and very Tini like uses a lot of I mean, it'll be it'll be epic. It just Might be the wrong kind of epic for for like a Zelda. Yeah It fits Star Wars and it fits all the movies. He's done and he probably would do a great job on Zelda I just don't know if he'd be yeah. Yeah, it's not like I think he'd be he'd be bad But again, it might be like Like the guy you were just talking about he be he we know he's great So it would probably end up being good But in the context of the film it'll be Safe not as spectacular as it could be in that moment. Yeah Um, because it's just kind of taking him out of where he Where his comfort zone should be? Uh, let's see. Um, uh another personal favorite of mine Um Would be uh any omorocom Uh, okay, but he's more I don't know it it's very hard to describe his type of music. Um, I think see if I'm I don't want to be wrong on this one Oh um Here's the guy I totally forgot about Uh, because the movie I was thinking of with him is a terrible movie And it makes me have sex it ruined like It just ruined a lot of things for me with with one of my favorite book series As a very young adult like when I was 20 um that the aragon eldest and Whatever, I forget what the third third book is Uh, that series was fantastic one of my all-time favorite book series and I I openly admit that that series is not, uh It's not the wording in it is very much like for teenagers Uh, like in harry potter you could see how like that's written and adults can enjoy that Uh aragon is very much like very much. I mean it was written by a teenager at the time. So like kind of makes sense Um, but the story it tells is like really encompassing and I always felt could make a good lord of the rings type of movie Um, and they just bombed it with aragon so bad. I don't know what they were thinking Yeah, it was a that wasn't really good, but the but the music was good Like they had the perfect end his it's patrick doil And I just realized he he did the music in brave Um, I I didn't see an animated movies. I never pay attention to who did the music um But yeah, and he's he's also been involved in the harry potter Uh, and thor albums and a whole bunch of other ones Um, I I have a small little list for us to decide on then sure, so There's someone that I forgot that I was I don't know I'm kicking myself in the head that I forgot this because he is kind of a video game composer Um, okay, that's okay video game composers. Yeah, uh, but he also does movies So he'd be perfect in my opinion, but we have haun zimmer from the from pirates He does the pirates caribbean just as like one single idea Uh, we have michael geochino who's done star trek. He's done star wars the force awakens super eight up star trek beyond So he's he's very versatile And then as he lists a bunch of sci-fi movies. He's very versatile Um, but we have and then you said patrick doile from he did brave. He did aragon, but There's someone that I forgot and harry potter and harry potter and rise of the planet of the apes and apparently hamlet There's a bunch of stuff. I didn't know he did there's gregson williams Uh, what do you do? He did the entire or at least he had a hand in doing most of the metal gear solid soundtracks Okay. Um, he did the sons of liberty theme Um, and see he he's scored chronicles of narnia Man, he's he's done. I had a good I had a good score on that. Yeah, he he's known specifically like in terms of video games. He's known mostly for Um metal gear solid. Yeah, um, but he's done. Let's see if I can find anything else. Um Let's see. I like that pic. Yeah He's done a lot. He's done shrek. Um He's done the rundown which has a fantastic Uh album or um music score to it. Um the rundown. What's that again? It's it's got, uh, I don't remember Such a long time ago. It's got the rock in it. Um Has a great like oh Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one that had the rock in that one. Uh, what's that one guy name? I always remember him as stifler, but it's not Um, well, yeah, I can't but I don't remember his name. Okay. Yeah, I remember that movie. Yeah, that was that was all right That was one of the rocks first movies. Then we've got he has also done x-men wolverine Um cowboys and aliens total recall Uh, yeah, I mean like I guess, you know, I narrowed on the list. I think he's definitely one of the finalists. Yeah Um, I still really like Patrick Doyle. I know that I'm looking at more of the stuff he's done So it's between Harry Griggs and Williams and Patrick Doyle then Yeah, I mean or they could just both do it. Yeah, they could collab on that I mean, it's often a lot. I mean those are two really big names. Yeah to to to be the usually with the collab It's like a big name and then some some guys that aren't aren't as well known But uh, hey, this is zelda, baby. Yeah, this is our dream Go all out. Yeah, all out. You know what an ending credits make a gen williams just because Just because then you could throw some trumpets in there. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah Okay, so we've got our composer. We've got how what kind of the movie it should be Now here's the big part. Oh my god. Oh, no Will Smith is link Will Smith is link and uh, no, I'm sorry. No, will Smith's son is link That's child like Dave Chappelle is uh, zelda. Oh boy The rock is the king Okay, so some more serious responses because like I think is I'm not saying those people are bad actors In fact, I actually think the rock the way john said it actually is slowly becoming pretty decent at this acting Yeah, I mean he's he's blocked on him and whatever I mean, I mean he's more for comedies, but still like he's actually getting pretty good at it I'm surprised. Um, I guess I shouldn't be because he did a really good job acting as the rock all those years in WWE Like that is an act. So You did a pretty good job of it. Um Man Well, I should should we just start with the big the the biggest roles Yeah, so who do we want for link? Yeah, that's so tough I'm trying to think back to someone No, we think a child link or we're going adult I'll just go adult link. Let's go adult Okay, because like this series don't take like it could even be an older like it doesn't have to be Um, like a teenager child of the boss I don't hate him. I just don't think he'd be a good link He's a good actor, but I don't think he's a great actor. I think he's a good type cast actor. Yeah Certain roles like what he did in holes. That was a really good, but like that was also like a decade ago I know but like it kind of fit like the kind of acting he's gonna Indiana Jones did not fit the kind of action he's gonna. Well, Indiana Jones portion of happened period Anyways, and I think I'm thinking another Indiana Jones. Oh my god The thing is I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna be there day one because I'd love Indiana Jones that much. It's just Harrison Ford is awesome, but I'm I'm thinking Oh, Harrison Ford is like no Look good is link like you think and then is like yeah, like looks like link Like who would who who kind of gives you that link look, but then I'm kind of thinking Liam Hemsworth Liam okay as as like me He's got the face. Yeah, um, I mean they can do whatever with his hair. I'm not really about that, but like He might be a little too buff He just has to thin down. That's all well. I mean like he's not gonna thin down I mean look at the role he plays He's not gonna thin down. He has to stay buff Um, as far as long as that role exists. He has to stay buff, but Yeah, like it like his young like I'm looking at some picture of when he was younger not not quite as buffed up like that's That's a really good looking link Yeah, and he's a good actor um, but man Who there's gotta be more I'm trying to think of some movies because I don't always remember the actor's names But I can just look them up quick. You know who did you ever see uh Kingsman Oh, Kingsman is good the the main guy from that Terran Eager Eagerton I think Let me look here The main guy He should be on like the front of the poster not not a Sorry, I'm thinking Colin not Colin Firth But yeah, no, I knew you're not thinking of him the guy that plays eggsy in the movie That plays who oh eggsy alex nickalov Uh, that's the person who has listed on imbd Who is apparently a nobody he's only been in three movies Whoever the kid is The kid Yeah, and that that might be the kid and that I think I was one of his first that's his younger Oh, that's his younger self. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's Terran Eagerton is is get uh eggsy. Oh, it's here in egg. Okay Yeah, yeah, I he won't even awesome brown kingsmith, but um What one of those stuff is he done? He's uh Eddie the eagle He's relatively new I'm looking I'm looking at his old stuff Kingsman is like his his big Yeah, Kingsman is like the biggest movie he's done So far Well, and he's in the next Kingsman Yeah, which I didn't know that I didn't even know there wasn't another Kingsman comments. I just excites me even more He's in a new Robin Hood new Robin Hood origins. Is he Robin Hood? Yep Yeah, I think he could be he could be pretty good. Um, I love Robin Hood I don't hope that movie doesn't suck like the the last one did with uh, what's his name? I know who you're thinking of Russell Crowe. Yeah, like I like Russell Crowe. It just it was just not a good story I didn't like I just did not like that take on Robin Hood All right. Anyways, uh, so yeah, we don't want to go like too old. We don't like chris pratt for like link um Yeah, and chris chris pratt's got some nice talent, you know, he could do serious but And the thing is the thing is dude. Well, and the thing is what kind of link do we want? Do we want him to have a sense of humor? I mean, yeah, but like Not to the like like well like what's this kind of feeling like are we having like a sarcastic hero Or like a dead serious hero like in Lord of the Rings or something. I'm thinking somewhere in between Like not to the point where it's like the cdi link But not to the point where this is like christian bale's batman link So like somewhere in between where he could be serious, but also like sarcastic and funny. It's funny. You went with like a personality that's considered terrible to like What many people consider one of the best batmans of all time I don't I Well, I know the fact you picked them told me you don't like that batman But a vast majority of the people out there thinking that's one of the best batmans We'll say super serious. We don't want a super serious link. We don't want a super silly link. We want somewhere in between And now you say like batman trying to think of like You know, maybe a better comparison would almost be like what they always make the personality of james bond Yeah Like it's serious, but there's there's some jokes and some stuff in there But we don't want him like super suave link more than an a swab not the suave way Like that's that's a total bond thing to be swapped like not that he doesn't need to be you know I'll I'm not even gonna say the word I'm just gonna leave it alone. Just a lady's man. So I just for a link. We've got lian Liam Hemsworth and taren egerton and i'm leaning more towards that last one. Yeah, look, I that's just lock in taren egerton Okay, I like that pick. Okay. So how about for zelda? Oh, that's tough There was someone I was just thinking of Oh, no, I see I can't pick her because that's just a personal thing who? alicia kuthard Yeah, I mean I could see her being like she like like she has the look Clearly the look that would totally fit what zelda looks like Um, she's a just an okay actress though. Yeah, she's not terrible like Okay, she is really good. There's this new show that I'm watching That I had never heard of before and I still don't remember the name of it because I've only seen like three episodes of it But it's like she was with this guy and left him at the altar and it's a total comedy show And she's really really funny in it like I know she's in the ranch and I just The the ranch is just okay Like but like this series other season is just hilarious and she's a big reason that's funny But it's like I When you think of her you just think she's pretty. Yeah And I guess when I was younger I always kind of imagined that to her as princess zelda um So again, please tell me you have a better pick than that because that Again, I can't get off it like Younger actors and actresses. I know and that's why I picture like she's not too old yet yeah, um, maybe uh They again, let's let's not focus on hair color first. Well. Yeah, I didn't pick actually the hair color. It was yeah How about sophie turner sophie turner? She's from game of thrones. She stands a stark Okay, okay. Yep. Obviously I See, I feel bad. It's just a big game of the most bad. I don't know the name of any actors Cool. Yeah, um, that that's a nice solid pick. She definitely has like the composure the stature Yeah Um, I had someone else in mind, but I completely blanked. I know. Um, let's see a suicide squad, right? Yeah The one who played in chanters cara dull. Oh god. Oh, I was just saying thank god He didn't say the one the one who played hardly Quinn No, those would be like, uh I mean, she maybe I guess I need to see her do something besides hardly Quinn Which I'm sure she if sure she's done something besides hardly Quinn, but uh carrot. Del Del that they'll have big name. I'm gonna butcher that anyways Karen her No, I'm not like she was just someone that I had in my mind Sure, sure, but I don't know see and I had so I had someone besides alicia kuther. I'm trying to Remember who it is Oh, she in See part of me wants to say scarlet johanneson, but I think she's too old now Yeah, she'd be too old to play. I think I said of yeah Yeah, because of the age of our link. I just think she's too old. I mean, she still looks young. She still looks gorgeous But yeah, she's a good actress, but it you know if this was for like five years ago. I think it would be fine, but um Plus we want to lock down for like long term. Yeah, so like this isn't yeah Yeah, so I don't want her to be too like I think she'd fit for a one movie, but it wouldn't be a series of movies Yeah, um That sucks too. She's such a good actress Ah, man, and that and no again. I didn't figure because she's blonde I don't know what this blonde theme. I mean because I've seen for the cell this blonde, but that's not Um, because you could always dye hair colors or this cell that could just not be blonde. It's not a big deal Yeah, uh, because if there are brown hair cell this it's like The pink haired links it is what it is um Man, I'm trying to think that there was someone that while we were talking about link I was thinking it would be a perfect match for that guy Anna Kendrick Who's that? Um, she's the one on pitch perfect the brunette Anna Kendrick. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah Yeah, that one She might work. She might work. She's a year older than me But she looks but she looks young obviously she looks really young we can't for somehow we forgot About the person who's made for this. Oh, okay. Is all the williams. Oh, yeah Is all the williams The daughter of robin williams the daughter of robin williams. The thing is is like, I don't know if she could really act Yeah, that's the problem. Like she's she has been in some movies um But like a lot of it was when she was like a little kid Well, and a lot of the movies that she was in are They were either younger or they're animated films or they're like really short films. Yeah So like she's the legend of core. She's she's the ninja turtles, but she's just a voice Yeah, she was in the show, I think um Yeah, the tv series. She was Mona Lisa the voice of Mona Lisa Um, so we don't know so like I like I'm looking at her resume and movies like Nothing really looks that great until Except for when she was younger and she was just playing the kid um So we're we're looking at sophie turner Anna kendrick and cara Whatever her last name is Um, do you have anyone else? You know, I think we got to go with sophie turner Just based on that list. It's just based on that list. I mean, I'm sure that there's some better options out there I just keep drawing blanks okay All right, so I'm really mad. I couldn't remember the one that I really was thinking of uh for ganondorf Eddie murphy Eddie murphy Especially if you want a little comic relief with your With your uh, ganondorf, which isn't necessarily a bad thing per se and an evil guy. That's funny That that you don't actually want to die Like hey like in the wind waker don't actually want him to die. He's not actually that terrible but Again, he doesn't know how to do what he wants without being terrible Uh, like let me just kidnap every blind girl in the world There's there's an obvious pick which is dwayne johnson Dwayne johnson would be a pretty good because he's got the bulks. He's got the look um And he could totally pull off like a serious enough villain Uh, that can be conflicted if we wanted to be a little conflicted Yeah, um, how about dany devito? It's just too short Yeah, it's just too short. I mean it's not that I get like I think he's a great actor just just too short For this kind of role. Yeah, like like I feel like if it's going to be ganondorf I know they could do like camera trickery and make make people as big as they want But it feels like on a big ganondorf. It feels like someone who's big bulky Really good actor who could pull off like a dark and confusing character That what about he's not big or bulky, but what about jack Nicholson? Jack Nicholson, that's an interesting choice He was the joker in the first in tim berns batman. Oh, yeah, I don't know who jack Nicholson is I think he could play a pretty menacing villain. Yeah, and I like his uh Well, when I think of him as ganondorf, I think of him, uh, He the personality hadn't the departed Yeah, like that kind of villain Mm-hmm Granite that also was a very intelligent villain questionable with the ganondorf's that intelligent, but But this is a new this is a new series. You could be whatever we want to be Um, I I do like that. I I do question longevity Yeah, what about Liam Neeson? Liam Neeson see Is he another one we have to worry about longevity with let me see how No, he's Oh, he's not he's not too bad. Well Right now he's in his 70s 74 Yeah, I mean, uh, you know that that's something you might have to worry about longevity with I mean not as bad as jack Nicholson Man jack Nicholson's ancient That's true like he was born in 1937 like he I mean he's lucky to still be around right now mean get uh See how old is see I I think it feels was like Liam Neeson at the time that star wars episode one came out That would be fine Nicholas cage Nicholas cage See Nicholas cage needs to be in every movie. The thing is I like Nicholas cage. I just think He hit like he blew all his money, right? So he was just taking every single roll he could and the problem with that is that the movies sucked So it didn't matter if he was any good Like just look at some of the movies like he's known for like these are some good movies, man like he just He just blew all his money Like yeah, I mean I'm looking at other actors too that sound like they would be great like Ben Kingsley might make a great he makes a great villain, but he's 72 also Yeah, well, that's the thing like a lot of villains we think of are people that are old Because they're what we grew up with as villains Yeah I mean you could I don't that's why I sound like we'd like it's like is the rock gonna win my default No, but this is gonna sound really bad because if we're sticking with like younger characters I don't want to make this like a teenage movie like it's all about And like the villains the villain the Ganondorf's always traditionally come across me as older than Then like it's out there But i'm also thinking and and like not because he It's it isn't gonna sound racist. Um, I don't mean it to sound racist, but it kind of does you racist I'm thinking thinking adam driver because he literally he has like the nose of ganondorf and he looks like him He's just young Um, oh, yeah, he's kind of ran in the new. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I have I'm beat it. Yeah. Yeah, he kind of looks like him And he's young Yeah, it may be around for all the movies Yeah, we'll toss him on. It's a possibility Not quite sure of his acting skills per se. He was fine in the force awakens We didn't see that much of him. Yeah, that's the thing. I didn't see a like what I saw of him kind of was annoying But then it was more of the script Than than him. I don't really like I didn't come away thinking man. He did a bad job. It just like Yeah, I need to see some more of you to really figure out your character Because right now you kind of seem like a whiny brat You don't seem like like I want my next Darth Vader and you just don't seem like that um By the way, I can't wait for the new movie just because it's gonna have Darth Vader like oh, I'm so pumped when I went to see uh Uh, Dr. Strange They had a trailer for it that I hadn't seen yet because I've been kind of avoiding the new star wars trailers and when it ended with the breathing of Darth Vader, I just like It was geeking out. It's so hardcore Like the movie's probably not even gonna be that great, but it's got Darth Vader. So I'm there Yeah Oh anyways, um So so what do we have right now for choices for for Ganondorf? We've got dwayne johnson jack Nicholson ben kingsley and adam driver I think we're just gonna have to take Nicholson off I think he'd be really good like the thing is I think he out of all the choices. He's the best choice But then it's not gonna it's not gonna be a franchise Well, but let's think about this realistic or unrealistically too because we picked two giant composers We're making well more than unrealistically. He's gonna live forever than it's jack Nicholson Yeah, so let's all right jack Nicholson it is then Jack Nicholson or take jack Nicholson and put him in the rocks body We're gonna be really imagined if you're no no jack Nicholson. Okay. I can get behind that So who else who else needs to be in this movie? Well, you figure We got the sages Some sort of sages and they usually they can play as big a roll or smaller rolls if you want So are we gonna go with like traditional ocarina of time sages or like Bruto and darunia. Um Because if if we're doing darunia, then that's well, let's go to the dwayne johnson. They're they're I mean Yeah, there's just no I I think we we should go Well, when I think back up the sages usually there's like one from every race Yeah, and then so we do gore on sage One or gore on sage. Yeah, the gore on sage is doing jackson that there there's we don't know his name That doesn't matter. There's no doubt. He he looks like a gore on He is a decent enough actor to pull off that roll. Um, yeah So like who would be like, uh Yeah, I don't see it looks like I don't know what races do we want to do well zora as I'm assuming Yeah, um My goodness zora see It feels like a zora one should be female Yeah, I just to balance it out plus like I think it's always like when it's been when one it's always been female Yeah, I mean we can go default with jennifer lorenz. Well, we could that could be our our uh Zora fall by jennifer lorenz for everything I think Sure sure that's fine jennifer lorenz sounds like it would be a good And then uh, let me see it feels like we need like a foresty sage doesn't need to be kakiri But I'm thinking for king. Um, you've seen independence day, right? Who hasn't the first one The president bill polman I think he might make a good king. He's got that beard does he let me see Yeah, I haven't actually checked on him. I mean, I know he was in the new You know the new one which I Oh, yeah, look at that Yeah, it looks like a king to me He almost looks sad that he kind of reminds me of robin williams, but Yeah, anyways, um, yeah, no, I like him and He's not like a fantastic actor But very He hasn't like good and he's good enough for the short scenes Like every actor we put in doesn't have to be like a superstar. He's kind of like that perfect Like for small for small roles um So just for placeholder names, I'm gonna put the go on stage is darunia and then um Arzor say so you you so you want to talk about racism. Our whole cast is white Well, uh doing johnson is well. Yeah, but he's like as white as you can get for what he So Who who else could we throw in there then to make this a culturally appropriate I know and I keep thinking like it's hard because most of the characters in zelda are white We need we need john maybe maybe we have a maybe we have a sage from the gruda tribe Yeah, I'm thinking though like I want Oh, well, you know, well, he's he's about as old as uh our link in zelda who Um, so the guy who played fin in star wars. Oh, oh god, what's his name? Not because he's black I suddenly mentioned race and you suddenly cast a black guy But because he's a really good actor and he again, we've got that longevity then with with ganondorf Yeah, no, he's a he's a pretty good actor. He's gonna be in the new pacific room. Nice We haven't seen him play a villain yet, so we could give him we could be like marvel and give him Yeah, I'm looking back at this history here. He definitely has not Done a villain per se He's been a conflicted Murder person, but Um, not necessarily an evil guy He was pretty long in order in the uk um Hmm So do we want to toss him in as our ganondorf or leave jack Nicholson important? Well, I feel like jack Nicholson is just too perfect for the role Like the only thing that's put turn me off is just because he's old but yeah, um Oh, what Nate we forgot navi. Oh, we're gonna put navi in this thing Then the only person the only person I like then like the only person goes to mine because she's done a fairy before Because who played tinkerbell and hook Oh, man I I can't think I can't think of her name now. She actually is like a really famous actress Um, it's uh, I feel like I know who it is, but I don't want to be juli roberts. Yeah Why would you want her? I don't know. I liked her as tinkerbell And she's annoying And that's what navi is is annoying Little fairy that you do not even want to talk to So juli roberts is our annoying fair. Yes. I don't know why we're included in a fairy I hate fairies like I don't hate fairies. I hate the way zelda uses fairies, but I I guess if we have to have fairy as like his companion character Fine do we want uh, if we're gonna make this our perfect movie. What about minda? I'd like to see her in the movie or full version Oh, they'd probably be cgi amp. Okay. Voice voiced by the person who ends up being the full full body. Oh, jeez That's someone where I hate bringing racing again. It feels like it should be a black woman Uh, I know well like It has to be and I'm not I'm just like thinking of the look of of her More darker tone skin. I mean granite you could I mean white people you could just paint them Yeah, that's even I know Well, welcome to the new america um I'm trying to think of someone Um, here's my problem is that I'm trying to think of someone that's like seductive and sure like tz But until like I'm instinctively I go to jada pink and smith Um, who is that? Or or rosaria dawson. Who's that person that I'm I mean We'll cut the movie. I know she's in see I was almost thinking of zoe salanda dana Oh She's kind of in the role. She's been She's kind of got that like seductive sarcastic Yeah, we could but still like a badass kind of vibe. Yeah Totally forgot about her. I just I remember the artist of the galaxy and I was like, oh that kind of reminded me like a midnight kind of character Yeah, a little bit. I mean obviously coming from you know an evil side instead of actually being good the whole time but But she was also like she was also an avatar Very good job and star track So we have three three actresses for minna We've got jaden pink and smith rosaria dawson and so I say we just throw him in a ring and see what she lives Those are all really good choices Because jaden pink and smith plays a really good villain and but like not necessarily always a villain Um And i'm just a big fan of rosaria dawson So that's just more of my preference There's nothing wrong with that. Hey, I threw out alisha kuther who has no business really being in a zilla film just because i'm a fan And I do like rosaria dawson a lot like There has not been a role. She has played I do not like Um I mean literally like wasn't she in like sin city? um I feel like she was the most recent role. She's in uh, well, yeah, she's she's she's in the daredevil and jessica jones and Uh, the new one luke age She's she's really like luke age is the one she's really gonna be involved in now I think based on how I won't spoil people who hasn't watched luke age yet But she's definitely gonna be more in that one. She was introduced in daredevil though um She was also you have you watch have you watched the flash? Oh, I love the flash I I'd like to see can you just patent really? Yeah I'd like to see iris playing midna. It's funny. She's usually the character people don't like I Again, you don't I mean, no, I don't actually think she's that bad Like some people compare her to the person who plays laurel on aro and I'm like no laurel is way worse I think is I didn't even think more laurel was that bad as other people did but but um, like I think kandace does a lot better job I forgot about grant gustin. He could have been our link Grant gustin. He's he's very. Oh, yeah, very island uh Like it's funny. Not once watching the show that I ever asked myself. Who is that guy playing flash? I'm saying it's just very out. This is who he is. I don't I don't have to wonder yeah I'd like him as a link so that man now I'm conflicted. Oh, yeah the thing is I don't know like I like his personality on flash. Obviously. I feel like that person. I was a good one for link, but Oh Thing is that's like really the only thing he's done. That's good Yeah, let's let's lock in who we have then I won't I won't focus on that But I'm I'm liking if anything if anything else is just another shout out that they should have made him flash in the movies Oh, what about what about this? What if we made sophie turner armina and put kandace patten as our zelda? Oh go the other way around Yeah What if we did that? I'd like that. Yeah, that you know what? I'm fine with that. I'm I'm fine with that I think that can work So kandace patten is just just slip just slipping in that kandace patten. I think she'd be an excellent zelda to be honest Yeah, I think she'd fit that role. So we're um, we've got Is there anyone else that's really I totally I totally forgot kandace patten was a young and the restless back in the day Holy crap. I totally forgot she was on that. I used to watch all the time with my mom Yes, I was that there is one role that we need to fill in. Oh, what's that? I already have this is already. Oh, no And not a what is it? We have the great daeku tree. Yeah, but He's voiced By can you guess? See Someone with a deep. Yeah. Yeah like a deep powerful ancient kind of sounding voice But not like, you know, well, obviously it's powerful. So I was you know, not like you're dying. Um Because that's what I've always I've always imagined his voice is like deep and just booming Not like the grandma style voice that you get in uh You don't know sure I I'd say james Oh, yeah, it is heyday Yeah, I don't know if he's still got it now but I mean, he's voicing him again in rogue one. So obviously he's still yeah But that is a lot of trickery they can do if if his voice Because like he's got a sound like exactly the same And if he's not exactly the same they'll they'll do some voice alterations to fix it either him It's hard to argue james at all jones. He's so Like you think of james. His voice is like perfect for it It's it's iconic. Oh, yeah, I know that's the thing like look at all. I mean mufasa and Darth Vader and If he was still alive, I'd say someone like christopher lee No, I I'd love to have christopher lee. Oh, you're gonna tell me if he was still alive my link would have been Heath Ledger, so Like I I was so mad that he that he Think I mean not just the one he did with the joker like I loved him and uh a night's tale Like I feel like he's he's got the range that I don't I don't know what his age would have been like, but anyways Or we could make eddie murphy our great daiku tree Or chris rock. Oh my gosh if we're gonna have I'm trying to think I mean, I I feel like we're gonna have them it feels like we should have like a new character That's like this sarcastic Mf or just keeps popping up randomly throughout the game That isn't the old man but kind of feels that old man role where he just kind of appears Like when you need like when he needs guidance or when he's confused and you just a lot of mysteries surrounding him and like He always he always ends with like a one-liner and just leaves like totally confused No, here we go. We can explore the origin of nate's birth of nate of lynx parents in this movie Oh, there we go Revisit the fan topic idea. Link's dad. Link's dad there. That could work Link's dad. Who are we gonna make links dad links dad? Oh my gosh Steve you semi steve Oh my god Oh my god Oh my god, that would be that'd be kind of I mean he's a good actor. I just Cannot foresee the actor we picked for a link coming from him Ha ha ha ha What about ilin McGregor? What about uh, oh we want Kenobi. Oh, man um It's a good choice Definitely pretty we're keifer southern keither southern. I like keither southern He could be a good links dad. Oh man Trying to think of somebody else, you know I think I like keither southern. I think we should go with him for links dad Okay, who is going to be links dad see that's the tough one Let me think all the people I wanted to be zelda what we're too old You said scarlet have I mean that would explain where his boyish beauty comes from like all of it That's not true. Keep keep being scarlet Johansson. Yeah, that's fine with me Especially like she's a good actress, but yeah. Yeah, you know what? that we I wanted to fit her in a role before and this Like if it's gonna be about his parents like the origin stories, I get that feels like a good role A nice strong role, but that also means that also means we probably need to have a child link That appears in some sort of flashbacks or something Yeah, especially if it's an origin for parents because it's gonna be probably Starting out you maybe even before link is born Um, who is that kid an iron man three kid? Oh the one that's in that the young that's in that that sits in that thing with the armor Yeah Um, let me look here ty ty simpkins. Ty. Is that his name? Ty simpkins Is he too old now? Let me see No, he's I don't think he is uh Of course his biography his biography is totally incomplete Because it's probably like the only role he's done that matters Uh, oh, he's in a drastic world Yeah, he was oh, yeah He was a kid wasn't he he'd be the perfect age Yeah, that that could work because like for baby they could just do anyone just random baby Then like if you're gonna show, you know growing up over some sequences, I feel like maybe There maybe there should almost be a go between though I'd say uh the guy and that's hard because like the go between is gonna be someone who's really really young So I mean between like baby and like young yeah, like like kind of kind of or like kind of like yeah The baby is what it is and then you have um Like like someone between like the baby and like ty Because like because I feel like you got to show baby and you got to show like Like the the four-year-old, you know just kind of learning to do things like with his father or something And then like and then you got ty coming in showing off like the traditional Young link we all we all know I don't think that the four-year-old or whatever link would be that important to like well Yeah, yeah, I'd be more of a like it's really gonna be in there for like a scene or two, but Still feels like like this is the like the primary character in the whole series that's going to keep growing as we go um Yeah, but we only did them for like five seconds for like one or two seconds Probably be in there for at least 20 or so minutes of the movie Yeah, he'd be the introduction. Yeah, I am you know, yeah, that's fine. I guess we can not worry about that I that's just me being in particular like okay, we're gonna watch the growing up Who's going to be him at all these different stages like who's going to be the 18 year old one, you know, etc um So I think I think we'll cut it off at younger than because we've got a large well It's going to be a large cast a large cast that realistically will never happen So let's go over what we have. So we've got uh It the the film's going to be about it's so it's going to be its own thing So we're not worrying about it if you're into a specific game Um, we haven't we didn't flesh out a story because that's not really as important as what we're talking about right now Um, but we can basically with our character. We have confirmed It's like an origin story for link and his like parents kind of Yeah, and for like all the characters because this is like the first movie and what's going to be a series So it makes sense to have some origin stuff. Yeah And so then you've got uh The composers are harry griggs and williams and patrick's oil working together Dream team we've got link as Yep, link is taren eagerton. There's all those kandace patten Ganondorf is jack nicholson, which is beautiful. I love that choice Um darunia as doi johnson Um, ruto is jennifer lorence. The king is bill polman Uh, you're annoying fair. He's julia roberts Uh, midna, sophie turner the great daikyu tree is james orl jones. Link's dad is keeper sutherland Link's mom is scarlet johansson and young link is ty simpkins. That's a pretty That's what i'm saying like that would never happen or if it did it'd be like one of those Like one of those movies it sounds like it should be good because they threw like 50 big name actors together It's just the worst movie ever Because they're trying to give them all equal screen time and it's just bombs. They don't really really worry about creating a good story They always do that with those stupid chick flicks. I'm like, oh my god, okay It should be good, but you're too much Unless you have like a five-hour movie. There's just not enough screen time Yeah, this is it's got a lot of uh All of these are like top paid or like closer to being very expensive actor. Yeah, what so she pulling in like I feel Well, see I feel like for the first movie It would it would actually work okay with her because I feel like she would have a big role in this first movie like it Yeah, I mean maybe even like half the movie she would be like and like It's one of those where even after you get past like her life, you know And you're moving more into link and what he's starting to become Um, it's still like you can still have the flashback memories The stuff he learns from her and and is that like like that stuff can still exist in the series goes on But like this first movie I consider doing because she would have a bit like she would have a pretty big role in the first movie Yeah You know whether or not she'd want to sign on for multiple just for some flashback moments beats me but I think I like our picks for links all the yeah, those are those are awesome picks and they have to exist and One thing I like about the ties simpkins too for the young link is if if In the future there's a time travel sequence He would still be okay as young link for Possibly movie too if it gets explored Um, yeah, but you can't really go much beyond that because then he's gonna start getting tooled but I feel like if for some reason that gets explored after the origin story Where they start getting into some time travel that at least you have that option Of a pretty decent actor who's gonna look good as young link and still have the older link You know be part of it. You know if they do the seven-year thing or if they do You know, whatever they want to do, you know, heck they could have the whole second movie Just be about young link for some reason So I really like our choice for young link and and the older link could Those are those are perfect to me. It just opens the door. We did we I think we did good, you know, the the the ganondorf It's just so perfect. I just I'm just like it is This is me 20 years at this point 20 years ago I don't have to worry about him not being alive for the second film this point any ganondorf They pick will not live up to our dream game well Like if they ever do a film or an animation. Oh, yeah, that's the problem with this dream scenario If they do a film because you know, it's going to be a bunch It's gonna be mostly a bunch of people we probably haven't heard of much or have only done like like tv shows or something Um And that's fine. That doesn't mean it can't be good Like I never heard of most of the people that are in the flash before the flash happened And it ends up being really really good. So it's like it doesn't mean it's not going to be good It's just hard to imagine it being as good Like like if they have a great dacoitry in a tv series and it's not James Earl Jones. I They just better just not have them talk Yeah, just a silent dacoitry like you have them just die just die right away Oh Or reference just like a slot Yeah, slight name reference. Yeah, and that's it Or or they have like James Earl Jones and actually do it for some odd reason They decide that he's worth paying the money for for it for a character. He's gonna die and then uh Then uh as like they're doing the activity of time and as like he's in the tree like off in the corner There's like a little little Darth Vader helmet Just just hidden a little reference because hey They throw references to Mario and Zelda come on now That's true. Okay I'd love it if this was like bought and paid for And then they have all the money plus it have all the ip use They wanted to pay extra for like you could throw in a Darth Vader mask and not have to pay someone to do that um Like oh, it's Majora's mask with Darth Vader mask You become Vader makes no sense doesn't have to make sense It's Majora's mask that scenario Took a lot. Oh, I knew it was gonna take a lot of time like Trying to come up with people for roles Oh We should just like we can make that do the whole like long video Yeah, I feel like that's gonna be like a separate podcast because I mean, I'm sure all you guys love it like maybe we'll release like an audio only of the full two hours Uh, because I know some people like listen to this at their gyms and stuff, but Yeah, so at least the audio like all at once but the video will probably be two separate, uh videos Mostly for uploading troubles to and rendering troubles But that way you guys don't have two things to report. I don't I don't want to see the size of this video if I when we're done Yeah, thank god, I didn't record my phone because it would have been something like 30 gigs, so Oh boy But I think that about does it we've got our lineup for the perfect Feel free by the way to go down and the comments and totally destroy our picks And like show us an even better one because you know what I have seen lineups picked for Zelda movies in the past Especially once that Netflix series rumor went around Um or report or whatever You know, I saw everyone picking their stuff and we as a staff kind of jokingly picked one that it was admittedly was not very good This list is way better. Uh, but it's just This is awesome This is just awesome. This is a lot of fun I I hope when when like because I think what we'll do is we'll post this this one's separate Like it's its own thing. Um, and I think it's going to get like a huge Lot of conversation a lot of debate going because this is just a fun Fun thing and I'll try to post pictures of each person as we name them as we name them. Yeah Like I think you could be typing off. I'm like, who is that exactly? I can't quite remember I recognize faces record like that was Barry Allen. That was the flash one Oh, man Sounds sounds good. Oh, yeah two man podcast for the win I'm not editing this until that's the way you look at it. Yeah, we're editing tomorrow. Don't worry about it today Oh, well, thanks everyone for listening that Yeah, this has been a fun a fun little podcast a little different. I haven't checked my phone I'm sure I'm getting yelled at for being too loud Just just keeping my next week reading peppers and reciting Uh, next week we're dying It it's just yeah, we're gonna be in pain This was this was the calm. This is the calm. Oh god Oh god At least we didn't have any like serious arguments though Like we didn't like yelling. I I thought about it at one point on one of your picks But that person ended up not becoming The one so I was okay. I let it go. I learned to let it go. The only thing I ever learned from frozen let it go Well, thank you for that. So Well, thank you guys for listening and listening and bearing through these two videos or this one. All right We will see you guys next week. Adios