 Chris and I'll be here just to answer a few questions that may have arisen particularly in light of certain allegations of the broadcast with last night. What I'll ask you to do is just in terms of the investigation that Detective Inspector Chris Jory, spelled J-O-R-Y, he'll be able to answer those questions for you and within limits of course. J-O-R-Y, Detective Inspector. I'll start off, I'll give you an overview of what's happening today, what's been happening over the past couple of days, but then obviously there's, as I said, there's the allegations that came to light by a certain network that Chris will be able to sort of, Chris will address and he'll address some of the investigative aspects of it as well too, so when you're ready we'll get going if you want. So, you're ready? Sorry? All right, well just the latest. In a nutshell, what's happening today is there's two bodies still at the scene. They will be retrieved this morning, we anticipate before midday. Once that happens then we'll be able to conduct a full and thorough forensic examination. I have said previously and it has been the case where the forensic examination, the preliminary steps have been able to be undertaken, however with once the bodies have been removed from the scene, it gives us the opportunity to conduct a full and thorough investigation. Forensic examination as well as with our partners with the Queensland Fire and Rescue Service. As I said, the priority initially was to remove the bodies from the scene, to be able to pass them back to the family with a level of dignity. What the second most pressing point at the moment is to find out what happened, why it happened, where it happened and then the circumstances are leading up to and post to that event. So that's where the situation stands today. We intend to still be at the scene for a number of days yet until our investigations are completely exhausted together with those of the Fire and Rescue counterparts and then we'll be in a position to take steps from there. There will be a number of autopsies conducted over the weekend of the deceased, primarily to determine a cause of death, but in some instances and having regard to the verocity of the fire, some instances it will be for the sake of positive identification. As you heard from the families there, we're able to pass their loved ones back to them, knowing full well what happened to them and that they are in actual fact their loved ones. So that's the steps that we're taking today. Obviously it's not going to be something, the results of how the fire started may not be known for some particular time, but as I said, the coroner is aware of what's going on. We have commenced preparing a report that would be presented to the coroner, but the evidence and the facts in there obviously need to be 100% accurate and that's what it's all about. Sorry to say that again. I might be able to canvas that in a statement that I'll make and what I might do is I'll start from the start. Obviously the early hours of Wednesday morning, Queensland Fire and Rescue Service were called to the address at Slack's Creek. On arrival the house was fully involved. Fire and Rescue teams managed to enter parts of the dwelling and they identified a number of deceased inside. Shortly thereafter Queensland Police Service attended the scene, declared a crime scene and cordoned off the area. In the early hours of the morning senior investigators attended the scene from the Queensland Fire and Rescue Service and also the Queensland Police Service. I briefed the southern coroner, Mr John Hutton, at the scene that morning. He had an opportunity to view the scene and obviously this matter is a coronial investigation and our investigations will lead towards a determination whether Mr Hutton will hold an inquest in relation to the deaths. The investigation is being undertaken in partnership with Queensland Fire and Rescue Service investigators, detectives from the Logan District CIB and Child Protection Investigation units, State Crime Operations Command Homicide Investigation Group and the Arson Squad. And we also are getting assistance from our neighbouring police districts who are helping us to locate family members and obtain statements. Shortly after the investigation commenced, a major incident room was started at Logan Central Station. We've conducted doorknocks of the neighbours and taken statements and obtained versions from them. We've also had the opportunity to speak to the survivors from the family who managed to extricate themselves from the dwelling. You can understand and you could see from the earlier media conference the emotions of the family are still very raw. We are working our way through in a most sensitive way possible to glean the information that's needed to help us advance the investigation. The early indications from the scene examination and it is very, very preliminary is that we believe the source of the fire was on the lower level of the dwelling, possibly in an office area. Now this is from information obtained from individuals that we've had the opportunity to interview. We understand that that an individual who is in the downstairs area of the dwelling had returned to that area a short time after doing some work in that area and on returning to that area after earlier smelling smoke coming up through the floorboards had seen that area fully engulfed in flame. He's attempted to fight that fire and raise other family members in an effort to get them out of the house. You can understand that from the images that you may have had the opportunity to see at the scene the damage to the dwelling is significant and the fire scene examination is an intricate one. Prior to the forensic examiners and also the fire scene examiners getting into the dwelling to do their examination, Queensland Fire and Rescue Service, Urban Search and Rescue teams were used to shore up the premises. Once those bodies are removed, the last two bodies of the loved ones are removed this morning. Our forensic examiners will be able to move in with the fire scene examiners and conduct a more thorough examination. That could take several days. We've had gas examiners at the scene. There you may have seen in some images there were gas bottles along the front left-hand side of the dwelling as you look at it. There is no indication to suggest that those gas bottles levied but there is indication that they vented. Now that is normal in a fire of such intensity where the gas would expand and a failsafe mechanism of the gas bottles is that the gas is allowed to escape in a safer manner as possible. Over the next several weeks we will make every effort through our disaster victim identification teams. We have anti-mortem and post-mortem teams working with the family and the community, obtaining dental records, identifying items of property that loved ones may have come into contact with so that we can obtain fingerprint identification and try to possibly identify their loved ones so that each family group can be 100% guaranteed that the loved ones that we're returning to them are from their family groups so that they can deal with their loved ones in the traditions of their cultures. The investigation team of detectives have been working significantly around the clock and we will maintain this investigation and prepare a report for the state coroner. Not on Facebook, there was a threat some weeks ago over a text message on a telephone. An image from that text message had been posted on a Facebook account. We've conducted investigations into that threat. We're keeping a very open mind but at this stage we are satisfied that the individual who sent that text message is not responsible for this event. Well of course not the matter goes before the coroner but all the indications prior to a thorough forensic examination at the scene would indicate that the fire was by accident and the seat of the fire was in a lower level of the dwelling. Yes it was but beyond that no. We have discounted at this stage that person's involvement. Well the threat wasn't made to burn down that family's home. It is a large extended family group. That family group live in a number of houses throughout the district. There was no specific threat to burn down that house. The threat was directed towards a member of that family. We've spoken to a person associated directly from that family group and they hold no fears that that person is responsible and we have spoken to that person as well as part of our investigation. The family have been helping us as best they can. You can understand that the family interacts with the community. There is a some information that was provided to the major incident room that a person in the community was unhappy with one of the family members. However there was no direct threat made to that person in any way shape or form. The fire was that intense that on the information that I've received that the gas bottles were venting at one stage and they were venting away from the house towards the neighbouring house on the left hand side. There is some fire damage to that house on the left hand side. I don't know whether that's as a result of the gas venting and that being a flame or whether it's from the intense heat but I can tell you that the heat and the destructive nature of that fire was significant. I'm not a forensic expert however from my limited knowledge obviously the fire feeds off fuel sources. Those fuel sources include what the dwelling is constructed of. Any fuel source could include papers, other furniture, curting that are in and around the area where the seat of the fire is and oxygen itself. Yes. No. Yeah and we've spoken to the gas scene examiners and during the venting process there would be a sound of a banging sound as they vent and that could also be glass in the house exploding due to the intense heat as well from the intense fire and the heat brickwork like blockwork has cracked and in some areas shattered as well. Well look the the gas bottles were intact and they're all connected correctly to the dwelling. Well obviously it was it was one of the survivors from the family group had been working in that area just prior to the to the fire around midnight and shortly thereafter he had gone upstairs seen the smoke coming through the floorboards and returned returned and saw that room well of light. That person was Tal Tapa. That's right. The level of destruction is such that they will not be able to determine. We're relying on eyewitness accounts and the information to date is that no smoke alarm was heard. We're unable to say if there's one installed. House was owned. Yes. Look there was a car at the front of the dwelling that was fully engulfed in flame as the flames licked out from the underside of the house and yes it could be from that. There is slight damage to a number of vehicles that were parked at the rear of the house and another at the side that is possible but again until that thorough examination is done the loud cracking and explosions could be a number of things inside the house. Could be the glass as I said or brick work or block work exploding as well. Yes. He attempted to fight the flames with a hose and he was beaten back but at the same time he was trying to rouse family members to get out of the house. That's right. How would you say? I think maybe and again well I'm not a cultural expert either but culturally because of the position these men hold in their families the concerns are the family of the family is that the reports through the media may paint them in a picture less favorably and I've got nothing to indicate from my investigations that their deeds that night were anything more than heroic. I think the best is classified as a father trying to protect his family. I think if you put it in the basic terms it's exactly what he's done. It could be the why me thing. Think of it yourselves. You know you're the one of the sole survivors of your family group. Think of that. There's there hasn't and in fact the three-year-old hasn't been positively identified. That is going to be a long process through the anti-mortem and post-mortem teams and those post-mortem examinations would also include forensic odontologists, DNA collection, fingerprint examinations and a number of other examinations as well to determine age and sex of the deceased which may help us help us identify them. That's a resource issue and they do come to us with a level of expertise that just help us in those investigations. As I said from the outset traditionally when these events, when any tragedy or anything of this particular scale or a lesser scale to that matter, when it occurs it's been my experience and I think I can speak on behalf of Detective Inspector Jury as well. It's been an experience that there's something needs to be done so you get in and do it. You do see some horrible things, you do see some shocking images and some of that well it never goes away from you but the simple fact of the matter is that we're trained to do a certain job. We go where we do that job, we do it objectively and I'm speaking on behalf of Queensland Fire and Rescue and also Ambulance as well too. If things happen if you find you're not coping we've got a vast array of resources as I said from our human services officers, peer support officers, chaplaincy services, aspects of early intervention programs if they're actually required but right from the outset right up until the time is completed to a standard that doesn't require as many resources it's simply a case of get in and do the job, let's do it properly and let's do it objectively. That's right. Three bodies were located and removed from the house early and the front right hand bedroom are upstairs, one in the upstairs right hand rear bedroom and we have seven bodies in the lower level of the building believed to have fallen through the floor. Yes, yes, sorry left rear of the house as you're looking at it. It's too early for us to say at this stage it's been described to us by Jeremiah that the heat was intense that the smoke was thick he couldn't see the hand in front of his face prior to trying to get out the back door. He does say that he'd been talking to the family group so he'd gathered the group to an area which he thought was safe for the family in an effort to gather everyone to get them out but sadly that wasn't so slightly behind that area. No internal stairs so stairs to the front and rear and you know you can imagine from the intense heat that fire seeking fuel air oxygen it if the source was in that room that we believe at this stage that flame licking the under floor of the upper level and seeking out fuel being the floor boards and the support beams and then coming to the outside of the house from images that I've seen from photographs that were captured at the time the flames totally engulfed the front and rear verandas as well of the dwelling so nobody would have been able to get out of those areas that's right well there's two bed towards the left rear of the house is two bedrooms right at that and that's right at the back on the left is looking from the front on the left hand side at the back is two bedrooms and then moving towards the front of the house on that left side upstairs is a kitchen and a lounge area it's in that lounge area which the flooring has collapsed I'm sorry I don't understand I don't know where the dividing wall is but that back left rear area of the house here which was well engulfed is severely damaged as well but as you can appreciate the whole dwelling's severely damaged so Jeremiah the lounge area which is near that near the where the collapse is that's and that's something that we need to clarify with him we're just not 100 sure this is the hard part about it you know he's still carrying a lot of grief and obviously a statement we're going to need to take from him as from the other two witnesses as well it's going to be quite intrinsic very in depth and we'll take some considerable period of time so he's got to get out you know deal with the grief he's got at the moment and then we're able to sort of step in after that and be perhaps a little bit more clinical if we could and to tie him down that's just a that's the process we have to take it's a simple sorry that's right that's right we do have as you've heard I've given you a fair bit of information we've got versions from the three survivors and also neighbors but in a fire scene investigation we need to go into a lot more in-depth with those survivors and that assists the fire examiners and then also the state coroner in making determinations so we've we've got a long way to go with the family we've been briefing the family groups at the scene on a daily basis on the progress and direction of the investigation it's a long drawn-out painstaking process as you've heard and if I could just leave you with one message that at this stage the investigation there is nothing to suggest foul play we are continuing our investigations with an open mind as we should we're preparing a report for the coroner and that report may lead to a determination of an inquest or not we're having discussions with the family group but not directly there's still post-mortem work to be done and they'll be dealing with councillors at the John Tong centre who are attached to Queensland Health and a timeline will be provided to the family once the post-mortem work is done identification is complete and the bodies can be released victim identification could take weeks upstairs yes yes yes yes that's right we do have a version from Missy it's it's consistent with that provided by the other survivors I don't have his version to hand in depth unfortunately but you know I can say that it is consistent he's managed to jump out of a window I believe at the front of the house from memory it's it's a process that we're working through with the family you saw the rawness of their emotion it's we're chipping away at that and when they've had enough we will come back to them a little bit later and we've told them that in the end he had yes he had like minor burns but he he was transported to the PA hospital oh he was in and out yes a couple of times yes thank you thanks very much