 So welcome everybody. We got the agenda posted in three places. I saw these two of them. It's on the website and email to the paper. So we're legal. So we will commence with asking if anyone has any additions to put on the agenda for tonight. Walt, do you have a question about posting a paper on a town plan? Posting a paper on a town plan. Posting a paper says on the 9th, that's when we will be discussing the proposed down plan update down plan. Yes. It's turning away. I tried to take a look at the draft. Wait, let's just do the amendments to the agenda and then we'll move on to doing them. I'd like to add in, this came in the other day, a Brookfield service annual agreement. And anyone else? Thank you. See you better when you're sitting over there. Again, I'll hold you from here though. Minutes from the previous directions that I had for that. I'd move to accept these. Non-favorite? Aye. All righty. For you. We had, Walt, he had a question about the next meeting when we have some reviewing of the town plan. Trying to read the draft is available. And from the draft, there's no way to know what changes have been made. There's nothing in our tallage, bold underlined or anything else. The draft doesn't allow you to compare it to the existing plan because there's no way of knowing. So will someone at that meeting be prepared to tell us what changes are being made? Probably could make that happen. Now did you try going on to the town website to look at the existing adopt the town plan? I just talked about trying to do that. Looking at an electronic device that has page breaks in a different place than the draft. Try reading through them at the same time. There's no way to compare it. I would think that the committee probably can answer the questions. Maybe they have a summary of changes, but you can't learn it by trying to read the draft. And you're requesting, you'd probably like to see those summaries before that meeting. Is that what you're saying? If there's no changes other than we put in some comments or something, that's fine. But if you've made changes, actual changes, someone should be prepared at that meeting to tell us what those changes are. And there could be a substantial change somewhere, but there's no way to tell. Well, if I can add a little bit to that, I haven't been directly involved, but there were, the reason this update is being done, it's not the full update that we have the municipal planning grant for, which is going to be taking place over the nap between now and next year. It's going to take a number of months to do it. But the current one is to bring it up to current requirements, which includes addition of several things like something, a discussion of forest, connecting forest blocks in town. There's something about flood resiliency. And there's a couple other additions like that that were not addressed in the previous plan because they weren't required back then, but now they are. Designation. With that designation, it just has to talk about where the boundary is, but the actual designation is a separate process, which happens after the town plan is adopted. If you're right, there is that. So there's added sections like that. And probably the best thing. I'm sure that Tori Littlefield from Two Rivers, we'll be there to discuss what those changes are. But if you'd like to be able to get a better sense of what they are beforehand, what would be the best thing to do would be to contact someone on the planning board? Board come to the next planning board meeting, which is on the 2nd of April, I believe. And I know I've got to be the third. Third. Which is before at, usually at 6, I believe, here. And at that meeting, you can actually see what she, we've been working through or the planning commission is working through the changes and the evolution of the plan. And that would be a time to, you could actually, that would help. Because she has, it actually projects onto a screen and you can see, there's line through but still present old parts of it and new parts added. And it's kind of a group effort to do that. So that would be the time to bring that up. Dave, you wanted to talk about the old firehouse building. Which we, you know, I was here six months ago or eight months ago. I'm going to reuse myself and sit over there. Good idea. But yeah, I'm interested in renting, leasing, whatever. Yeah, I know you brought that up a while ago. And to give you an idea, what I like it for is storage for pelletized material. No retail out of there, just in and out. Storage for topsoils and pellets and back mulches and that sort of thing. I'm really buggered up up there where I am. And growing. And I know one of the questions probably would come up is how would I get a truck unloaded? Because I would be getting stuff by the truck load, you know, maybe even a 53 foot. Just to get everybody's attention that I have legal rights down the Conrad to unload a truck down there. So I would probably be doing that. Unloading a truck down there and put the stuff on the ground, get rid of the truck. And then I could lug it up. And it wouldn't take that long. So it would be a big truck in the middle of the road. And you would see very little action basically. The loader or the forklift whatever at the time would be packed in there. So I would need to be in control of the power. I don't need heat really, but I would. There is no power right now. But can it be? There could be. Yeah. There could be. It would need a little bit of work to be done just to make sure that it's safe. Right. No dangling surprises. Okay. And that's kind of an option. Yeah. You may not even need it except for lights in there at night. Yeah. There wouldn't be any heat. But obviously if you kind of care what you need. And that would be a monthly, month-to-month basis to not be fined by me. Well, we'd work and we'd attempt to work on at least and work out those agreements. Right. So we'd put you off when you made this request last year because we were under negotiations with the folks talking about putting a brewery in there. And that since they have their funding source has backed out. So they've let us know that they're out. Yeah, they're out. So it is possibly available. Like I said, basically you wouldn't really see much difference other than maybe cloud a little better. You know, the load would be coming in and out of there once in a while, but you wouldn't see much. Dave, would you, would that be the source of sale? Of what? If you, when you're selling the material, would it sell directly? It would all sell out of the hardware. We're going to have movement back and forth? Yeah. That's what you achieve, movement back and forth. Okay. You know, basically when I'm out at the hardware, I come down and get some more here. Because I'm trying to buy it in bulk, bigger bulk, but I can't because I've got no place to buy it. So it's really just a warehouse. That's all it is. Yeah. That's all it would be. It could be weeks out and you wouldn't see any action there at all. You know, but then some days you might see a load coming in out of there three or four times. It all depends on the timing. And when I get a load, you'd see some action there, obviously. But like I said, I wouldn't unload it right here. I'm going to place it there. And you're not requiring heat? No, I'm not requiring heat. You said bark mulch, pelletized material, topsoil, did you say? Yeah, topsoil. Yeah. Thank you. And pellets for heat? Everything in bags, not us. Everything would be in bags. It's all palletized. Everything would be palletized. Yeah. Yeah. So, of course, you can't make a decision right in the second. There have been a few people that have expressed interest in that over the years. And again, we put them off saying that we were already talking. But I must find a way to think under the table at all. Yeah. It was definitely complicated by the fact that now Patty... I don't know. I don't know. It doesn't hurt a lot. I understand. Yeah. But you did, this topic came up before and now. So that's it. Yeah. All right. So we'll digest that and move forward and let you know what we're thinking. Okay. Yeah. Don't forget that the town has a lot of stuff that needs inside storage. And if that's open, probably this is the time to do it. I mean, Dan, you can make a list of my along. I could probably figure it out. The 2011 town road and bridge standards that the town has to adopt and certify to be trans every year. And it's a lot of scribbles. I apologize for that. There's really no way out there to show you a comparison between the 2011 version that the town has now and the 2013 version that we need to adopt for this year and going forward. There's a lot of kind of niggly little changes. And the main ones have to do with, if you look under roadways, the first bullet where they talk about how many inches of processed gravel and crushed gravel on top of that are required for roads going forward. That's one. It's not all that different, I think, than what we've been talking about. They call for here at least a 15-inch thick processed gravel piece with an additional three inches minimum on top as crushed gravel. It's a top course. So that's one of the, I thought, major changes. The others have to do the ditches and slopes section as considerably expanded. Require seating and mulches of all ditches, grays, left and right references the stone lining of all new or reconstructed ditches, which was in the previous one but has been upgraded to be a little more substantial than it was before. And those are some of the major changes. So if you want to wait a little bit to read all of this and digest it before you sign the new certification of compliance, just let me know. As always, I have a new one here that says that you comply with the 2013 E-Trans template. So you just let me know whether you'd like to take it, have a chance to read it first. What does it do by? Well, I don't know exactly because sometimes soon we're supposed to have that meeting with E-Trans where we talk about the- They haven't said that yet. They haven't said it yet. It needs to be done soon because they're supposed to do it prior to April 15th when the structures, the grants and the classroom road grant applications are due, but I haven't heard from them yet. So it's up to you what you'd like to do. Have you seen this? I think it'd be good to look at it and digest it a little bit and perhaps we could look at approving it on the next meeting, which would be before the 15th. But if they come up and propose a meeting before our next elect board meeting- Yeah, I'll let you know. Then we would- We could perhaps- Well, we'd have to convene a special select board meeting and we could adopt it then to- Sure. That sounds fine. I have a question for you. On the new certification that you sign, it says- We're certifying that we have an up-to-date highway network inventory, which we do. The inventory is supposed to identify location size, deficiencies, and conditions of roads, bridges, causeways, culverts, and highway-related retaining walls in class 1, 2, and 3 town highways. We have all of that except for anything having to do with retaining walls. And since we have a couple that I know need work, one is something Dan's mentioned on Buddles Rd. I know we applied for that at least once before and not gotten funded. And also the one on Bethel Mountain Road. So I was wondering if you know anything about any time that anyone has ever looked at retaining walls in sort of a comprehensive way and said, you know, these are a problem, these are okay, this needs to be watched, anything like that. Might be something to think about doing. I don't know how many we have beyond those two and whether- Well, there's on Marshall Brook Road, but we recently had a bunch of work done to that with four or five years ago. Six years ago. Kirkpatrick, too. Kirkpatrick at the base of where Patrick is. I don't think I've thought about that. Yeah. But yeah, that should be inventory because those are some of the areas that we end up looking for money and that's what that's going to be. What's going to hold up off of Mountain Road is basically retaining walls. Yeah. Yeah, first part of that would be just getting an engineer to look at it and say, here's what the problem is, here's what's causing it, here's your options for fixing it. And so far we haven't been successful there and that's one thing I'm hoping they'll talk to E-Trans about when we meet with them. Okay, you keep saying no and what do we need to do to get to the yes on that. So, okay. These more stringent standards are a result of the Clean Water Act and the storm water runoff. It's all related. This is beginning of the domino effect for that. If you want to call it that. I did learn that that $2,000 annual fee has been reduced to the number of population in the number of roads so we fall into the $1,350 annual fee. They brought it down into different categories. Right, there was a lot of pushback from towns on that. And there were some proposals you mentioned based on population so I hadn't heard what they did that sounds good to know. Just came through I think on Friday. Okay, great. So, I also have the annual financial plan I just finished preparing today so I didn't have a chance to send it out to you which you'll have to sign but since you're going to take some time to get that certification I will give you all a copy of this as well. It's a pretty pro forma which is based on our highway budget that was passed the last town meeting but it breaks it out slightly differently. You've seen them before. Yeah. And Tom and we're seeing last June. But I'll get that to you also so you can take a look at it and be prepared to sign it or ask questions. Sorry. Okay, thank you. So, I'm not done. Dan, was it you who said something at the last town meeting about maybe applying for a grant for a roller? Did you see this? Email June Astrid. Okay, so there is a grant program for it. Did you, this came through from the Betterback Rose program today so I just thought you made sure you see it. I had a really good schooling on that on Saturday. I was at a seminar all day Saturday. So, it was like an hour developing to all of this. Oh, okay, good. So, there have been some towns that have made their own rollers. It's been covered in previous Betterback Roads postings. And this seems to be a really interesting workshop and there's none that's really close to Dan. You might be an interesting thing to go to. Hadn't we addressed this once before and the homemade rollers didn't meet the requirements of the equipment manufacturer. This is going to be a tow line, right? Yeah, they didn't necessarily meet the requirements of the equipment manufacturer. I knew it was an issue there. Yes, it was. Somewhere in Addison County. Pretty good site of money. I had a lawyer look at it and they said as long as it's detachable they didn't think it would be an issue. In any case, whether it's a homemade one or something you want to buy, there's grant money for it through the state. Again, part of the Clean Water Act on ecosystem restoration grant program now offers grants that cover specifically mentioned rollers. And that's unfortunately that application process now is kind of a rolling thing. It's not a once a year rolling thing. No pun intended. So we have time. We want to just educate yourself and figure out which way you want to go and then if it is something you want investigate what it would cause to get what we want and then work on the grant. Let me go all that junky. I'm dragging around. Okay, just a couple of updates so you know today I got confirmation from the White River Partnership that they have a BYCC crew, Vermont Youth Conservation Corps crew to do various planting projects for them and we have a small one on the parking right. We have $2,500 to purchase plants and install some like streamside little riparian buffer along the Brook Bear and then also the north end of the parcel there just to sort of do some since we're doing, we did a little bit of and created some non permeable surface we'll put in some plants and mitigate that. So WRP is willing to buy the plants. Actually they bought the plants for us with all their other orders that they usually put in back in November and they'll have a crew to install and we have a date of April the week of April 23 that we probably take them like half a day so those guys really know their stuff. So I'll let you know when that's actually happening but that's really a good thing because I was trying to figure out who I was going to be able to rope in to plant up. It would have been a nice classroom project but the only problem with classroom projects is sometimes you get trees that don't survive because they weren't really able to plant them properly. So this will be done really fast and it will be that much closer to finishing that project at the charging station. Is there still money for the shelter? Yes there is. There's 10,000 bucks for that. So I'd love to be able to do something if we can. You're waiting for me to come up with the design right? Somebody? Yeah. The grants being renewed it actually expired in December by the transits. They said it's no problem to renew it so we haven't quite gotten in there yet to ask it somewhere in the Hopper. But that would be the last thing to do under the current plan. So what was the name of that plan? It's a park and ride grant. So last but not least let's see. One wing broke road. The culvert replacement is being replaced with a bridge and I've been working with WRP to get ready with that. They've been talking to the four landowners who are to be granting temporary easements. So what it is for temporary access road while they actually do take out the culvert and install the bridge. Don't have a start date yet just finishing up getting the stream alteration permit from the state. That's just in the comment. It's not in the comment period. It's in the appeal period. There's two 30 day periods for that one. Somebody who wants to comment on it and then the state said yes it's fine to us. We approve it but then there's a 30 day appeal period. And there's going to have to be a couple utility poles two or three utility poles that have to be moved to them. Three mountain power is going to do at no charge. I think they're just temporary moveables for the temporary road and then get replaced. But then there's one that has to be temporarily moved and that one will be charging about $13,000 and that's folded into the total project cost. And partnership has raised 80% of the money so far and they're hoping for another $20,000 from the US Fish and Wildlife Service. We'll know about that pretty soon. And the money from the 80% of the funding comes from a state called which is something new. That money is funneled through to reverse and then comes to White River Partnership who was the applicant for the grant and then comes to the town for us to actually disperse the money as the project goes along. And because of that arrangement there's going to be a sub-grant agreement between two rivers and White River Partnership. You know what? The partnership is required by the terms of block grant to have a sub-sub-grant agreement with us. So just letting you know that that's in preparation now. It's being prepared by White River Partnership. Essentially what that does is just set up the working relationship and it'll be the same as it's been for the two previous culvert replacements under the brook which just worked great. It was a very easy arrangement for both us and for them so it just reiterates all of that. We have to have it on paper now rather than just talking about it. So I'll let you know when all that is going to start. And then the town's responsibility is really not town money. It'll be from our there's $110,000 left in the US Forest Service block grant agreement for AOP culvert replacements. So this one will use somewhere between $30,000 and $60,000 out of that remaining pot depending on how much comes from the US Fish and Wildlife Service. So we'll have a little bit of money left so my next question is going to be the US Forest Service is whether they have funds to renew that grant program for us which means we'll be able to continue to replace culverts within the proclamation boundary of the forest service. That's a lot. We'll take some of the highway. Yeah. I'd like to I'd like to I've been starting to go through it. Because I wanted to meet with you so we can That's where I'm going. I mean if we can get rid of the stuff that's not no longer applicable and just have a set of documents, piping schematics and so forth that's current Joanne has quite a few quite a bit of documentation in the vault on the system and I want to make sure that if we have a second set of documentation that's located in the pump house that they're identical and that anything that's obsolete let's just lose it. I mean both are the proper procedure but vote. So I want to go. Yeah, that's quite a bit. Yeah, a lot is still kept. I want to make sure that we have accurate and then up to date information both the water system and the sewer system that it's all the latest and greatest and we don't have any. The sewer should be pretty good. I mean what we have. I saw the manuals. Right, but the prints and they're not. It's disassociated. Right, except for the ones and arms drawn off which is one that should have down there. Some of that here as well. When we do the spring walk around. I mean, you know if you should get hit by a boss okay, I'm not saying but it would be really nice if we could have a full set of accurate documentation for our systems. So I'll just want to catch up with you. I worked out the hydrogen one and I talked to Norm. He said next month he would take it. So I labeled all the hydrants and it should be flushed. Okay. So he's going to put it all on blueprint. Oh good. He's going to label all the hydrants and put it on the side. This is the order they need to be done in. Okay. So that should be that, y'all. Okay. That's all I got. One hydrogen that's hurting down by having that. We can't use it. This here? Yeah. So as soon as we get some good weather we'll have to replace it. I mentioned it before. The threads are bunged up. There's no way if there's just they won't sell the top half. That I can find. I mean, I contacted up in Bury and I contacted over in Roppeland and no way it's got. It's a... None of them stock hydrants anymore. That type. It's usual. But it's original hydrogen. So, talking 40 plus. You know, I had on the long range that we replaced up to one or two a year. Originally. And we haven't done that because we haven't had anything that needed it. You know, I can't see replacements. They're still working. There's some other repairs some of the fields some of the controls and we can go over that as well. It looks like some maintenance. Thank you. So we have a couple bids for the mowing around the town. The snow is melting. Somewhere under the snow. So we've got one from John Gordon. He's looking at a bid of $7400 per year. From Music Mountain we have a bid for $83.95. So basically, pretty much a $1,000 difference. And that's with the modifiers not mowing the ball field twice a week. Only once a week on that. But everyone seemed to be pretty happy with John as long as he kept his shirt on last year. So I would move to accept this bid. A second. My favorite. Kind of I. A few reservations but I'm happy with you two or happy with that. It's John Gordon, right? Could you please tell me the bid amount? That was $7400 per year. Is this a three-year contract? I think it's a one-year contract. You've been doing one on those and three on the sidewalks. Not three on the sidewalks. So it's just a one-year contract. So $7400 per year. You gonna be back? So the grass will grow. That is all that we had on the agenda tonight. I don't know we're all anxious to go to the school meeting over there at Brookfield Services. Another annual agreement at Brookfield Service. Found either annual service for 614 or two visits a year for 798. This is just the school. Yeah. Can you talk to another there's another proposal. Bush's generator. You should have it. Yeah. So I think it's the reason that we didn't bring it here is that obviously this is what we wanted to do. This just came again. We had one of these already and we decided to hold off because we had that $750 credit with Brookfield because they have to show up all the time. So it's been a matter of trying to work it off. But there's no timeline about when we're gonna use that balance so to set up a contract the intent is to basically exhaust the balance and then sign up with Bushy. These guys come all the time. Okay. Same problems over and over and over. You haven't used that up. Can you believe it? Because there's a credit out there. It'll just be fine. They've come twice. Oh, okay. All the way down to school. They come pretty regularly all day again. It's fire. They can't fix it. How long has that been here? You don't have to have a service agreement with them anyway. If they need a service you could just have them come do a more than the length of the track record of that. It won't take long to burn up the end of everything that's on the agenda other than payments and bills. We're at school a little bit. Thank you for coming.