 So we're here at the ID TechX here with TF Massive, and you have an e-paper array so hello So who are you? Hi, my name is Alan Carell CEO of TF Massive We've created this e-paper array, same-minute e-paper array What we do here is this is a continuous 50 micron flexible circuit behind here There is a 50 micron circuit behind all these so it's actually super thin right here. It is super thin What's going on inside? It's a paper thin paper thin paper thin circuit circuit and with those circuit is this ink That's the ink segmented ink right here, right, and you make it circular so it looks cool. So it looks cool. So it looks cool Here we have our back plane with LEDs. So right here is LEDs same same concept with a very thin But with LEDs You have this in mass production. Are people using this? Not yet. We have a one meter wide web setup. It's roll-to-roll So it makes it cost-effective for this market and right here. We have a demo of Had we look like with This is for the batteries How do you activate it? Oh that one that one isn't active. That one's just a demo This one is active. Let's go there. So there's a touch sensor. It's a capacitive touch center So at the same time with with the e-paper with touch sensor You have a bunch of customers that are interested to use this. We had a lot of customers interested We've got our electronic brain up there. That's what is this Kimbell RFID? No, no, what's white Wi-Fi? Control so we'll change the the pattern here Whoa change it from our cell phone That's beautiful So we have a number of different patterns here That's awesome Wow, so They are GB RGB and so can you a solid color we can we can change the RGB so we can we can change the color here That's very very awesome There's a lot of potential right here, right? This is gonna be the interactive poster I don't I hate to use puns, but this is gonna be big. This is gonna be big You have a how big is your staff? This is our big staff. You had the big staff This is this is Kimbell happen. So what do you do? I'm the engineer I'm the one who solves all the problems gets everything built and He's the one who does it. Yeah, how do you make stuff like that? Very carefully very carefully it looks beautiful with a with Coca-Cola post potentially you don't have a deal with Coca-Cola, right? You could have All right, so you don't is it gonna be ready for this Christmas? It's what's possible well that one is that one is that one but can you have like thousands or millions of them out? Oh, we might be able to have ten So how do you get into my action? What's the challenge? Oh the challenge is Two guys in the back of warehouse. We could do ten. No the challenge is to partner Partner partner. Yeah, so is there here that I did take extra potential partners you've been meeting we've had a ton of potential partners and Yeah, yeah, it's been it's been an excellent show and we look if I look outside here. It says Paris fashion week. This is March 2017 you want to be you want to be there? I want to be there. I want to be there with that poster too Yeah, so where are you based? Vancouver Vancouver and what I'm going to Columbia north actually north Vancouver So TF massive you've been doing other products before or as you started with this is this see my hair? Yeah, yeah, I've been doing it for a long time, but no, this is just reason. This is probably a Year a year what are you there? But the last six months have been the real push and what I've been doing before I was retired before Retired before but they is boring to be retired. It's boring to be retired I had one last idea kicking around and Kimble to help me pull all the pieces together So is there any vision that you might have where you know people walk by with their smartphone and do stuff? They can like interact There's some ideas that could You have some ideas about how you trigger and You know all of the above all the above you can close and just say pull up your smartphone and go in this URL and then so Passive touch sensors able to detect even just the person walking by I have it calibrated for a hand right now, but When it's miscalibrated it detects anybody walking by And so you could imagine something where you literally it would detect someone walking by it would activate it would say hey To put your phone here for coupon, whatever And then what do you think about the ID Tech actual? It's been a blast. It's like I've been a kid in a candy store here Literally Price how we did what is this price? This is from backwards best product award of the year best product of the year. Yeah, well, that's a printed for printed electronics Very very cool. So not not not vehicle not not vehicle electronics Can you make this like a huge like all the way up to the ceiling? What's it? I could go up to the top of a four-story building We could unroll it and have it come four stories down and temporary and then take it to another building And roll it up and then take it to another building. I don't know what it would say, but What's the price if you lived here you'd be home by now, what's the price for one of those, you know I couldn't tell you but I can tell you that it is probably the most cost-effective way of producing a large flexible circuit our proprietary materials and patterning techniques Allows us to do this extremely cost-effectively and that this is ultra ultra thin And then so the battery is somewhere where the battery is Yeah, no, this is the small battery. That's that's a battery. That's it. That's it How long does it last small battery with the e-paper the e-paper this will go for three four months Yeah, really? Yeah, we had that going in the lab for about a month and a half And then we had to swap it out for a different one That was a battery to was half that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so the e-paper will last a long time Even the LED's are pretty Yeah, we have these Just running them off of cell phone battery chargers and we have to leave the flashlight on because otherwise they turn off They think there's they're not drawing enough current to actually stay awake. They go into sleep mode Really? Yeah, so you need to customize the battery pack Deflexible batteries. Yeah, you know Chains that we've seen here at the show right bolt. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, just put them in Yeah, and ship the whole thing and that's the most cost-efficient way to get people's attention Which is the most important thing. Oh, well, well, it caught your attention. Yeah, cut the judges attention. Yeah I mean it's it is. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely You're gonna be busy in the next few weeks and months That's an understatement. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. All right. Are you are you hiring? Can people join you? Are you Manage to do everything we managed to do everything. All right so far cool But you are looking for customers to just buy millions of these exactly