 So how do you use this energy in martial arts was very simple if I listen to him giving me force then I'm going to either use his force or redirect his force so he's pushing in he's giving me force I can simply just redirect his force right or I can redirect and use his force against him so add a little bit more okay now if I'm listening to him and he's backing off his force then I can overwhelm his force with my own force and I do that through Ting Ging