 I ask one of you to please lead us in prayer, please. Stavani, can you please lead us in prayer? Good morning, ma'am. Good morning. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Let's pray. Father God Almighty, we are so very thankful to you for a new morning. For your mercies are renewed every morning and we are in your presence only by your grace and mercy. We have seen a new day and we are thankful to you for this time of togetherness of fellowship, Father. We give you glory, honor and praise for who you are, Father, and how you lead us into your word, into your truth, Father. We thank you that once again, you've brought us all together, Father, and whatever we talk, whatever we learn, whatever is from your side, Father, may it enrich us this day. Help us, help the faculty, and we thank you for bringing us to the end of the semester, Father, when you have been faithfully leading us throughout this season, Father, and as we are about to finish the semester, we bless everyone who was part of this team, we bless everyone who has learned well and Father, and may everything that we have learned, may everything that we have learned from the word, may it bring glory to your name and expand your kingdom, and we be well equipped to do your will on this earth. Guide us, strengthen us by the power of your Holy Spirit, and bless all our teachers, all our teachers abundantly, Father, as they have imparted your truth to us. May we be blessed in it, Father, and we may glorify you through our word action indeed. Continue to be with us, continue to guide each of us, and let all things be under your control as we move on with the mentoring session, Father, let your wisdom flow, and in all things, we give you glory, honor, and praise for who you are. In Jesus' name, we ask and we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Stephanie. And once again, welcome everyone to this mentoring hour. This is the time we take to address any questions that you have. It can be questions that are part of your course, something that you learned, or questions regarding your Christian life or ministry, even your faith journey, or questions and doubts that you have, even as you've been reading the Bible. So you can type your questions in the chat section, or you can unmute your mics, and please feel free to go ahead and ask your questions. So this time is open to all of you to ask your questions, and our faculty is here. We'll do our best to answer your questions and to clear your doubts. You can either type your questions on the chat section, or you can unmute your mics, and go ahead and ask your questions. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord, Brother Rajesh. Yes. Let me introduce myself. I am Rajesh Rangare from Raukhila, Orissa. I've just, actually, I am two months late to join this course. So I joined in the month of October. So I don't think I will be able to finish the first semester in time. So there, I have to complete, I think, eight modules. Is it it, ma'am? Yes, depends on how many courses that you're taking, sir. If you're just, you're doing the entire course for the semester, then there'll be eight modules. But if you're just choosing some relevant courses that you would like to study, then it'll just be a few courses. But since you said you've taken all the eight courses for the semester. So I don't think I'll be able to complete the course in time. That is November 25th. So what will happen then? Will I be able to continue this course or I will be able to continue next year? First semester. I'm talking about the first semester. Yes. Out of eight courses, I think I can complete maybe five or six courses. So then two modules will be left. Okay. So it will be incomplete. So what will happen if I am not able to complete all of the modules in this semester? Yeah, Rajesh. So what'll happen is whatever you've completed will be marked as complete for you. Yeah. And the courses that you haven't completed, you can complete it. You know, you can't, I mean, the semester when the semester ends, number 25th, all the courses will be closed. But the courses you did not complete, you can redo them next year, same time. Yeah, so that's not a problem. And then next semester you can continue with the courses that can happen next semester. So next year, I'll complete these two modules or again have to complete the whole of the eight modules. No, just the ones you have not completed. The two, just the two, yeah. So that's all you have to do. Whatever you complete will be marked as complete for you. So. I have one more question. It is said that e-learning platform is free for all, but those who can afford it can give rupees 500 per module, isn't it? Yeah. So I think it'll be better for me if I pay the amount and do the courses. Yeah, that's entirely your choice, Rajesh. Whatever you're comfortable with, we have no, it's entirely your decision. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, brother Rajesh. And it's a joy to have you as part of our People's Church Bible College. And we just hope that you enjoy this learning experience and it will be a blessed learning experience and equipped you to minister effectively in God's kingdom. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. One more thing, madam, that actually I'm implored in a lot of steel plan. So I don't get enough time to go through all the courses, but I'm trying my best to do the courses, definitely. Yes, we understand that we appreciate you taking the courses and studying God's word, your passion to study God's word. Yeah. God bless you. Thank you. Oh, thank you, madam. Thank you, brother Rajesh. Yes, Christopher, you have your hand up. Please go ahead. Ah, yes. Good morning, everyone. I have two questions. The first one is a question that has been asked before, but I just wanted to get clarity on it. I just wanted to understand after we, as human beings, pass away, where do we go? And a couple of examples that I have in mind are in the Old Testament, you know, people who were, who fought a Christ-like life and were close to God, like Moses, for example, where is he now? And again, in the Old Testament, people who are not good people, and there are quite a few, as mentioned in the Old Testament, where are they now? In the New Testament, and our forefathers, people who have passed away, people who have accepted Christ as their savior, whether it is, you know, being born again, or may even have been in different denominations, but have accepted Christ as their savior, where are they now? And again, people who are, I mean, in the forefathers who did not accept Christ as their savior, where are they? So that's the fourth example. And then just in the future, in the millennium, in the thousand year period, again, people who passed away at that time, where do they go? And some of them may have followed Christ. I mean, the devil does not exist during that thousand year period. But again, there may be still people who do not follow Christ and do not accept Christ. So again, in that example, five and six, people who follow Christ, where do they go? And people who don't follow Christ, where do they go in that thousand year period? Yeah, so I just wanted to clarify, just want to clarify on those six examples. Thank you. Thank you, Christopher. Yeah, Christopher, so for each of these, we can call them as dispensations. Dispensations means periods of time. So we have three dispensations that you've mentioned. One is the Old Testament before the cross. Then we have the current dispensation that we are now. And then we're looking at the millennium. So there is a difference between the old and the new. In the Old Testament, everyone who died, the people, those who believed in Jehovah God and those who didn't, they, when they died, of course, you know, so when, what is death? Death is the separation of the spirit and soul from the body. So the body decays, of course, but the spirit and soul would went to hell. But hell had two compartments. There was the, there was Abraham's bosom, or also known as paradise. And then there it was hell as in, so Hades, so they went to Hades. Hades had two compartments, Abraham's bosom or paradise and hell. So that comprised Hades. So when you think about Hades in the Old Testament, two compartments, a great gulf between the two. How do we know this? When Jesus gave the example, or gave the story of the rich man and Lazarus, he said, the rich man was in hell. Lazarus was in Abraham's bosom. Jesus on the cross, he told the man, the thief next to him, today you will be with me in paradise. There was paradise, it was in Hades, Abraham's bosom. So in the Old Testament, before the cross, nobody went up, no, the spirit didn't go up to heaven, but the spirit and soul would be held in one of these places, hell or Abraham's bosom, paradise. After the cross, when Jesus rose up from the dead and when he ascended, then the Bible tells us, Ephesians chapter four, it's a quotation from the Old Testament Psalms. When he ascended up on high, he took captivity captive and gave gifts to men, Ephesians four through seven. So Abraham's bosom, paradise, was shifted from being in Hades to heaven. That's why in the New Testament, when you read about paradise, you read about paradise being in heaven. Second Corinthians 12, Paul says, I was caught up into the third heavens, into the paradise of God, Revelation two. You see paradise being up in heaven. So that's the difference. It has to be very clear. And we have actually gone over this several times in our courses, we covered this in our course on covenants, cross-covenants and blood. We also, I think even in Christolers, we covered this. So this will be very clear in our minds. Hades prior to the cross, had two compartments, Abraham's bosom, paradise as well as hell, post the cross, paradise was taken up into heaven. So in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the church or dispensation of the spirit or grace or whatever, but now when a believer dies, so whether our forefathers or any of us today when a believer dies, his spirit goes up directly to the Lord to be in heaven. How do we know that many scriptures? Paul said in Philippians one, if it is better for me to die and to be with the Lord. Second Corinthians five, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. So in this right now, after the cross, whenever believer dies, his body decays, but his spirit and soul go up to be with the Lord. The unsaved continue as before in the Old Testament, their spirits all go to hell at this time. So then we understand, like we studied in the course on end times that there is going to be the resurrection of the saints. When Christ comes, the spirit is reunited with the body. They're raised up with glorified bodies and they're going to be with the Lord for seven years in heaven. Then that's the end of the age, the battle of Armageddon. And then the millennium begins. So millennium in the millennium, you're going to have two kinds of people. You're going to have people with glorified bodies, the resurrected saints. You're also going to have the natural beings who have come past through the tribulation, they're entering into the millennium. And Isaiah 65 talks about people who will be born during the millennium. So life will continue during millennium, thousand year reign of Christ, people will be born, so on. And they will die. Isaiah 65 once again talks about that, a child being a hundred years will die. So the ones with resurrected bodies will not die because they're going to now, they have the glorified bodies. But the people who, natural people who passed into the millennium will procreate, they will die and the same thing will happen. That means their bodies will decay, they're going to go either to hell, those who have not received Christ or their spirits will go up into heaven. And then the millennium ends, Revelation 20 and beginning of 21, and the millennium ends with the great white throne judgment, right? So there at the great white throne judgment, there is every person, it's Revelation 20, verses 13, 14, every person who ever lived will be standing before the throne. So once again, and that's the division, the sheep and the goats, right? Jesus spoke about it in Matthew 25. So the sheep and the goats are already separated, there's already believing Christ, but every person will be raised back to life. And then those who reject Christ will now hell itself will be cast into a lake of fire, Revelation 20 verses 15. And then there's going to be the renovation of the earth, everything will be destroyed with fire, second Peter 3, Revelation 21, 1 and 2, there'll be new heavens and new earth. So we enter into the new heavens and new earth with glorified bodies. Is that okay? So to answer your question, Old Testament was different. Everybody went into Hades, but they were kept in two separate compartments. This dispensation, believers go straight up into heaven. No, those are not saved, continue as before. Millennium, there will be those who won't die because we have glorified bodies. Those who do die, same thing happens. And then it all ends with a great white throne judgment where every person who ever lived will stand before the throne of God. Is that okay, Christopher? Yeah, thank you, Pastor. I probably have to just go to the recording again and just get it again because I think it's quite a heavy answer. I just want one related question now. What are these, the third heaven, what are the first and second place? So if we just start on that. Yeah, so it's Paul writes, it's like on this 12, he talks about the third heaven. So there are a couple of ways to look at this. So obviously if there's a third heaven, there's a first and then the second. So the Bible uses the word heaven or heaven's Old Testament and New Testament. So sometimes it's used in a singular heaven. Sometimes it's used in a plural heavens implying that there's more than one heaven. And then by the usage, meaning the context and how that word is used, we understand this. And so what I'm saying right now is basically a summary of the usage of the word heaven. So one, the word heaven in the Bible is used to refer just to the atmospheric heavens. So we talk about the clouds. For example, as high as the heavens are above the earth. So in that case, the heavens are the atmospheric heavens talking about the clouds and so on. So as the rain comes down from the heaven and waters the earth, that heaven is the atmospheric heaven talking about the clouds and so on. So that's the atmospheric heaven. Or if you want to talk about it, you can use the word Celestial. Paul uses that in 1 Corinthians 15. And he says, there is one kind of heavenly bodies and then there is the body of the earth. So it's again talking about what we would say atmospheric or cosmic, the cosmos, the space. Heavens is used that way. In the beginning, God created the heavens, space, cosmic, cosmos. So that's the first, you know, we can refer to the atmospheric heaven or the physical universe heavens. The second is the heavenlies, heavens as in the heavenlies which is referring to the spiritual realm that and many times we think about it as something lying, you know, it kind of overlaps but it is not talking about the natural heavens, the cosmic heavens, but as in the heavenlies, right? So this is, you know, Paul says, we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against spiritual, you know, wicked spirits and heavenly realms, heavenlies. We are seated with Christ in the heavenly realm. So this is talking about the second heaven is talking about the spiritual unseen realm that also covers the earth. So this is where the realm in which demon spirits operate, so the wicked spirits operate. So Paul refers to it. So that's the second heavens. The third heavens is the realm in which God lives. It is a realm into which, in which paradise exists. It is a realm into which a believer when he dies goes into, so these are the three heavens. Is that okay? Yes, thank you. Welcome. Thanks, Selena, back to you. Thank you, Christopher, for your question. Thank you, Pastor, for answering the question for those valuable insights. We'll move on to Samuel's question that he's posted on the chat section. Samuel says, the three strike rule has often come up in the courses this semester and not just while doing church administration. I understand it is something that only we as a church is agreed upon. It is definitely very high standards that we can think of adhering to but it is also unsettling to know that we could potentially lose our leader over three errors. Should there be a system of resolution, personal and professional growth, et cetera, over something seemingly so rigid? And then there's another query that Samuel has posted, perhaps a seven times seven rule over three strikes but with systems to ensure we are learning and growing. So anyway. I will take it up because that three strike rule is part of church and ministry administration. Yeah, so Sam, everything has a context in which it is presented. So the three strike rule is not something that applies to like everybody. No, it's in the context of church administration. We're talking about church staff. So honestly, every person gets innumerable chances in the context of, hey, making small mistakes. Yeah, we all make mistakes and there's no count for it. That's just not a matter. So, I sometimes might forget to attend a meeting or I might forget to do something on time. So those are non issues, right? Those are, and that happens to all of us. So the three strike rule has a context, the context is when a staff fails to meet certain standards and expectations, then, and remember, something preceding the three strike rule is there is always constant warning saying, hey, this is not happening, so please get your work up to thing. Then we give first feedback, then a second. And then the third time when the same matter repeats, it's the end. So these have to do with very consequential matters, things like character issues, financial integrity, conduct, those are the things. The everyday non issues, those are innumerable, we always small, small matters, we don't. So I think the context of three strike rule is very serious matters. Either work performance is not up to the mark, they're not delivering on what has to happen. So we're giving them three chances, which is fair enough. You can't keep paying a salary indefinitely, right? That's unfair to the organization. So there is, the context is there, church staff, somebody who's being paid for their work or even a volunteer, if there's a misconduct, something very serious, grievous, then there is this three strike rule. But sometimes, like I also mentioned, termination will happen immediately on the first instant when there's a serious thing, the three strike doesn't apply, because the misdeed was previous. If somebody's caught stealing money, we're not gonna give them two more chances to steal money. It's like that instant, they're out. Or if somebody physically or sexually abuses somebody, we're not gonna give them two more chances. That instant, they have to step down. If they go through a process of correction, maybe in the future, we can bring them back to ministry. But there's no second or third chance. The three strike rule doesn't even apply. It's once and it's out. So there's a context in all, which all of these things happen and hopefully, we'll be sensitive to that. Hope it's okay, Sam. Thank you. You're welcome. Back to you, Selina, sorry, that was from my course. So that's why I answered it. No, thank you so much, Pastor. Thank you, Samuel, for your question. I hope your question was answered. Thank you, Pastor. We'll move on to the next question from Jack in Joel. Jack in says, sometimes I don't understand the difference between the burden which got places in my heart and the anxiety body that comes in so subtly. As humans, we keep praying for many years about certain things. We leave it in faith, trusting in God, being persistent in faith, that there are times we see circumstances rising against, things going in the opposite direction. Is this human fear, anxiety or burden which God has put in my heart to pray more forwardly? What should be my right heart attitude? Would one of our faculty like to take on this question and answer Jack in and help her with this? Okay, thank you, Pastor Selina. And thank you, Jack, for that question. So I'll share my thoughts on this. When we talk about a burden that we receive from the Lord, you know, when we receive something like that from the Lord, it leads us into action, okay, some sort of an action. And it's a healthy thing, receiving a burden from the Lord. For example, when we, I'm just, there are different examples we can look at, but I'm just going to talk about Nehemiah when he heard about the cities broken down walls. It was a concern that came upon his heart and he was stirred up by that. We read about that in Nehemiah chapter two. But then it was a healthy thing because he knew, also he knew how to channelize it. So when he felt that concern and that burden, he flung into action and that was to pray initially and then the Lord led him, gave him favor and that he was actually able to go and do something about that situation. So I feel a burden works in that way, but we receive it and then there is something productive coming out of it and it's healthy. So either we pray and then take a step to move in the right direction. But then, as opposed to a burden, anxiety and worry, we read about that in scripture. First bit of five, seven, it says cast your cares upon the Lord. So cares and anxiety, I believe fall in the category where it's not healthy, it's not productive because it just leads us to a preoccupation where we don't invite God into that particular situation and help us deal with it. So that's the difference I see between these two, Jashan. And I would also say you've asked about certain prayers that we keep praying. So yes, there are some situations, promises from God which have a right time for fulfillment. There are some promises for which we need to contend. So such may take slightly longer in manifesting, but we must not give up. We must hold on to the word of God. God's word is our standard and we know that God's word is God's will. So we hold on to that and we continue in faith and continue in prayer to see the fulfillment of those promises. So just some thoughts that I wanted to share. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Nancy. Did that help, Jacken? Okay. Thank you, Jacken, for your question. The next request we have is from Rajesh. She says, can I have a physical copy of courses of study for each semester? It'll be easier to refer during the class and Pastor Ashish has replied to that. He says, dear Rajesh, we apologize. We do not mail print copies of lecture notes to students. We however encourage students to print out their own personal copy of the lecture notes. Some of our courses uses the APC books as textbooks. Within India, you can request your free copy of APC books by sending an email with your postal address to book requests at apcwo.org. Is that okay, Brother Rajesh? Yes, thank you very much. Thank you. We'll move on to our next question. It's from Jasmine. Jasmine is from Uganda. And she says, thank you very much for the e-learning platform. It has been a blessing and an eye opener. My question is concerning praise and worship. How can one effectively lead true worship? So can I ask Pastor Roshan Juhannis to answer that question, please? Thank you. Hi, Pastor Roshan Juhannis. Thank you. We have just one more to clarify. This question very quickly is, hi Jasmine. So is your question related to leading in worship? Is that right? Would that be correct? Hello. Yes. Yes, please. Okay, yeah. So effectively leading true worship or leading worship corporately or for a congregation, setting, it's an overflow of what happens in your personal time, in your personal time with God. And so how to effectively lead true worship? It's simply building the intimate relationship with him or worshiping God in your personal time and just getting to learn going deeper in his word. That's one thing, going deeper in the Holy Spirit, you know, just getting to be filled with the Holy Spirit even more. And the other thing I would say is serving. So these three things actually kind of keeps our heart in check and also helps us lead effectively to our congregation. So first thing is go deeper in the word of God and go deeper in the Holy Spirit, like, you know, spraying in tongues, you know, in the quiet time and just worshiping, singing songs and singing in tongues. And the third thing, the reason I say serving is the people that you are leading should know you as well. So especially after you lead worship in the church or whatnot, wherever God uses you, it's very important to stay back, connect with the people that you are leading. And so, you know, and so they know who the leader is as well. It's not that you lead worship and you disappear and the next thing, in the next time they see you is only on stage again on it next Sunday or once a month, you know, right? So having that conversation, just building that rapport, that relationship with the people and the congregation that you lead is also another practical way of how you can effectively, how you can be effective in leading worship as well. So I hope that answers. And also, Jay, if there's anything that you'd like to add, please. Hi, Roshan. Hi, everyone. Just some practical aspects. I just wanted to point out to one scripture, which is John chapter four and verses 23 and 24, where the woman of the well asked the Lord, has this conversation with the Lord and the Lord kind of gives a, you know, formula, not formula, but then, you know, focus on what true worship is and what true worshipers will do. So he says, let me just read. The hour is coming and now is when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such to worship Him, God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. So if we keep that in front of us, saying that, okay, as a worshipper, as a lead worshipper, if I worship the Lord in spirit and truth, you know, nothing superficial, it's not a performance, but I'm worshiping Him out of my innermost being as led by the spirit of God and in truth, not without any hypocrisy, without any pretence, in truth, meaning as per the word of God, worshiping Him for who He is and, you know, so when I do that in my personal times and when I facilitate the congregation and when people are there and I lead them into it and yeah, and leading the congregation into a time of worship is, it's like a journey, it's a progression, we're at the outer courts and then we move in and then slowly make our way, you know, if you have the picture of the tabernacle in front of you, we go in to the, you know, the most holy place. So it could be some outer court, you know, we could be singing some outer court songs about the Lord and then slowly we view in your, you know, if you're having a song list or a set list, you could choose songs which move progressively from, you know, songs about God to songs to Him, you know, so we are saying something about Him and then we move on to directly communing with Him. I mean, this is just a formula, I mean, this is just a guideline. You don't have to strictly adhere to it, but it helps because sometimes people are kind of distracted thinking about various things and then it helps to bring that focus in to, you know, talk about the Lord and then you talk to Him and then you, you know, begin to commune with Him. So if you can just think of that journey and the thing is when we think about leading also, sometimes we think, okay, I have to tell people what to do all the time, it's not that, we just have to turn our focus onto the Lord and then, you know, the people begin communing and then we just step back. Like Paul Beloshe says, you know, we are lead worshippers. We lead, but then we are worshipping ourselves and hope that helps. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Did that help Jasmine? I hope that answered your question. Yes, yes, thank you very much. Thank you. We'll move on to our next query that's come from Abraham. Abraham says, please, I want to come to India next year for graduation. What is the procedure? So Pashashi says, reply to your query. He says that you need to apply at the Indian Consulate close to you for a tourist or a visitor visa. You can then plan to attend the graduation when you are here, but please know that you will not be allowed to engage in any Christian ministry work when you're on a tourist or a visitor visa because the Indian government is very strict about this. So did this help Abraham? Tete? Yes, Pastor. Thank you so much, Pastor. But I wanted to know, is it possible to receive an invitation later from APC? Is that okay? Or I should just come with a tourist visa. Thank you, Pastor. Yeah, Abraham, it's better that you come on a tourist visa. So the thing is, at the present time, the situation in India is very, especially when it comes to religious matters, things are very tense. So if you say you're coming for big photo Bible college or you give any indication that way, they will either just stop you from coming or will not and will not give you a visa. So it's better not to mention, and just to come in as a tourist, then you attend, of course, when once you're in here, you can attend services, do what you want with your time other than being preaching and doing ministry. So now our suggestion is just come as a tourist and rather than, you know, with this mention, with trying to mention that you're coming for a Bible college graduation or something, it's better not to have any religious, mention of any religious activity. Okay, Pastor. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. We'll move on to our next question from John Paul. John Paul has posted his question on the chat section. He says, when we listen to people from church, how do we keep from overburdening ourselves? So you mean when people come and share their problems and difficulties or come for prayer, is that what you're asking, John? Yes. Okay. Can one of our faculty answer this, please? When we listen to people from church, how do we keep from overburdening ourselves? Yeah, thank you, John, for that question. I'll share some thoughts and I'm sure the others also will have much to say about this matter. So some of the things that could help is when we listen to people, you know, we could be very sensitive to the voice of God as well. Like just keep asking the Lord, okay, Lord, how do I respond to this? How can I minister? How can I strengthen, counsel, encourage this person? And so, you know, as we hear from the Lord, we can share that with them. And to have a mindset where, you know, we think of empowering them. So maybe equip them in the word or something like that. Because sometimes in some situations, what happens, we give a listening here and then there isn't much change and then constantly the sessions keep happening. So, you know, you end up giving the same kind of time without really empowering that person. So obviously, you know, that is not a very effective way of listening to them. So listen and see how best we can empower them, maybe equip them from the word and or connect them to, if it requires somebody more professional or experienced to guide them, then maybe we can connect them to a person like that. So that's also something we can do. And I feel another thing we can think of, John, is see at the end of the day, you know, thank God for the experience and the empowering of the Holy Spirit in our lives, but we're also humans. So we may not have all the answers for all the questions that come our way. So somewhere there is that limitation. So don't be too hard on yourself if you feel, you know, overwhelmed that, oh, there's so many things happening and everything needs a solution. But let's do our best. Let's do our best. But even then, we might find that it's quite a lot to handle. So in that situation, we have to also have a healthy boundary so that we can maintain our own personal strength and our own, you know, like mental strength. So just some thoughts from me. I request our colleagues also to please add. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Nancy. Would any of the other pastors like to help John with his question? Yes, Sainah, I'd just like to add one single thought. The verse, John 836 has really helped me where it says that, so if the sun sets you free, it's free indeed. Now, it's true that, especially in the past, we're calling a lot of them come and share all of their problems and all the challenges that they're going through. But I like what Pastor Nancy also mentioned, a burden causes us to, it's a call to action. So John, yes, there will be times, you know, many of them are coming and sharing their challenges. And one thing that has helped me is to stand on this verse, John 836 where, you know, you're free. There's this freedom yet when people are sharing and, you know, they're sharing their burdens and their challenges that they're going through. Of course, you stand on that verse saying, I know the sun has set us free. And then you begin to minister to them in a way that letting them know that, hey, this is the outcome of this can be, this is the future. We know that these challenges are there. And so personally for ourselves, something that can really help us is even if Philippians 4-6 don't be anxious about anything but in everything to prayer and supplication. So these are probably verses, you know, that many a times we have shared with people that I've realized that I've not applied it to myself. And so I intentionally apply these things to myself. Then we are able to share it with others. It becomes more effective. So I just thought I'd leave us with that. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Paul, for sharing those insights. Did that help, John? Or Passage, if you'd like to say. Yes, John, one thing that helps me is, I mean, I think thanks for Nancy and Paul for sharing. One thing that helps me is just to remind myself that I'm not God, right? God didn't call us to play God. That means we are not here to solve people's problems. We are not here to be an answer to everything. Only God can be God. We do our part. That is, you know, they come for counsel, you give your counsel, they come for prayer, you pray. God is the healer, we are not the healers. God is the comforter, we are not the comforters. God is the deliverer, we are not the deliverers, right? We are just instruments. Like Paul says, you know, we are earthen vessels. So just to remind ourselves, God is not expecting me to solve their problems. I'm only a minister, I'm only a channel. So every time our confidence is completely in God, God, I've spoken what I need to speak. The rest is yours. You know, I can't do God's part. God is not expecting me to do his part. So that way I'm not carrying any burden. You know, after I meet the person, the matter is over. I don't talk about that matter. I don't think about that matter. So let's say somebody comes to me, I usually give about 15 minutes to one hour. They come, they may say everything. When we close with prayer, the matter is closed. I don't go talk about that person, don't think about that person, don't discuss the matter again. Don't keep it in my mind. That's not my responsibility. And I shouldn't, right? That means that matter has been cast before the Lord when we close in prayer. Now it's entirely God's thing to handle. I'm no longer involved unless, of course, I need to pray for them, pray for that person. To that extent, yes, we're involved. We carry that sense of care and quote unquote burden for them that should pray for them. But we're not God, we're not trying to solve the problems. Only God can do that. So that really helps me just, hey, stay out of God's way, let God do it. Thanks. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Pastor. Really helpful. Thank you. Thank you, John. We move on to the next question from Reverend Kennedy from Kenya. He says, it's normal as a pastor to feel withdrawn. You feel like you are being used, especially when you see the people you think are mature, are behaving as baby Christians. You have talked to them, prayed with them about, you have talked to them, prayed with them, but no change. What do you do? Can Pastor Jaykumar answer this question, please? Excellent. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for the question. Yeah, I think there are two things mentioned here. Is it normal for a pastor to feel withdrawn? So I guess emotionally detached from, like, I'm just trying to understand. I guess it's, let me just answer that. Feel withdrawn from whatever is happening. Now, I think we just need to check why we are feeling withdrawn. Is it because of too much of things happening, problems? Maybe we are feeling discouraged, or maybe we don't see things happening as it should. And we kind of feeling withdrawn because of that. Okay, and then you've clarified, you feel you are being used, especially you see people you think are mature, behaving as baby Christians, okay. So again, just going back to, just understanding that it is a journey that we are making as a community of believers. And well, there are people, some people take more time than others to mature and to grow. And if you look at our own lives, yes, we understand that. So it requires patience, but also requires empowering people. I just share that, because people not only need to know what's wrong, but also, and what is right, and what they need to do, but also they need to know how to get there. And empowering the people through the Word and the Spirit and giving them the keys to handle certain things would really help. So yeah, so maybe you've counseled, maybe we have prayed with them, still they're not able to, we don't see visible change. So it's good to understand why. Is it the attitude problem, or are they genuinely trying and they're unable to? Or have we failed to give them the keys for change? Maybe like renewing the mind or praying in the Spirit or some discipline of going to the Lord, or are they just running to the pastor every time they have a problem or a challenge? So what is it? So I think to understand that situation and to help them empower their hands, I empower them to live that out would really help. I hope that helps. Anyone else can add to this. Thank you pastor Jay Kumar. Did that help Reverend Kennedy? Yes, yes, I think I've gotten something. Okay, we'll move on. Thank you Reverend Kennedy. We'll move on to Rajesh's question. He says, I may be missing many live sessions such as Holy Spirit sessions, anointing sessions, impartations, prayer, how can we connect with APC? Brother Rajesh, all of the mentoring sessions that we have are recorded. It's posted in the main audio section so you can go back and refer to those sessions. Thank you very much. We don't record the, we don't have the prayer sessions that happen for in-person students and that's not recorded because they have it every Friday, or every day is supernatural hour, every Friday they have their fasting prayer, but that's not for the rest of the e-learning students and online students. So that's not recorded, but you can access all the mentoring sessions that's either that we posted on the main audio page. Thank you very much. Okay, we just run out of time. So, Jeremiah's question, I think Pastor has responded. I see Christopher's hand up and even Lamak's hand up, but since we've run out of time, I would request both of you to please post your question, send it to the administrator and email it to her and then we will address those questions. Is that okay? Christopher and Lamak? Yes, thank you. Because we've run out of time, we have to, students have to get ready for the class and even the faculty. So we'll stop here. Thank you all for joining the mentoring session. I see Jasmine's question as well. Jasmine, we will address your question. We'll reply via email to you. You can send in your questions at admin at apcbiblecollege.org and we'll answer those of you who've not been able to ask your questions or if your questions have been posted and not been answered. We'll do that. Yes. Hello, this is Lamak. Yes, Lamak. Yeah, well, mine actually is mainly a token of appreciation. It's nice really to talk to you guys and especially Pastor Raika. She's, so you have been a blessing to our family and yeah, many others. So we, by God's grace, we've started actually some kind of school and we are really encouraging all our students to join the Bible College. So we are using the material, the foundations and the rest actually to do our small groups. We've called them, we are calling them life families. So it's really such a blessing. Actually, we see that we have a spiritual buffet, we call it a spiritual buffet. So for all the material and everything, it's such a blessing and we are seeing really that it's a revival really happening and we keep praying for you guys and yeah, let God continue to use you mightly. So Pastor Raika, as she said, so thank you, thank you so much. We are being blessed. We will keep in touch. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Lame. Thank you. Thank you, Lame. Thank you all for joining the mentoring session. Have a blessed day and a week ahead. God bless you all. Thank you. Okay, please. Yeah.