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Come on man. Don't do that cuz we don't get sad Yeah, but that what he got the name from that's what I'm saying see see this is come on you You got two special people today two special individuals to my my track mates in the penitentiary, man And two instant institutionalized brothers. That's uh Extremely institutionalized sit on the phone. I sit on four with us three us four together And all they do is have jail stories and I'm like All right, cool. That smoke salmon was a thing smoke clams Hold on before we get to that. Let's get into our first sponsor power barstool sports Me and I was worth a game is bought to you by Amazon music I've told you I've been using Amazon music for a while It's been amazing from the start as a part of my prime day prime members can get four months of Amazon music Unlimited for just 99 cents that access to 60 million songs on demand add free That mean you ain't got listed on commercials. You ain't got a listen to no ads For less than a dollar. Hmm. 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Thank you for all the 60s not from power room But if something's going on wherever it's going on we are we will be the same thing politics So big you I see you shiggy What that means you was I was born in the ghetto Thank you Okay, and I'm the king of R&B Yeah, I don't think so because I just you off right now. I just did that. Okay. I love it But I'm from the Rolando's and sent us I Have no idea what that means. I have absolutely no fucking What is that, you know Break it down the Rolando's since sent us what this isn't What's the Rolando's and say hi to chairs we're busy chairs Oh some money to your door today Oh My phone broke my phone just broke We got I know you big you from the role in 60s. That's what I'm listening to us. Oh, that's previously Okay What you see, okay, we're on the same page yummy, okay, so When did the Bloods and the Crips Kind of start kicking it together. I Don't know when the overall bloods and cribs. I don't know what they do. I know what we do Well, the bloods and the Crips originally started keeping together because the bloods came from the Crips Definitely not so you was already So the bloods is Cripp babies definitely not Crips what it is, right? It's the same thing as the Obama thing and slavery in the White House right something been in no press and come up to be Stronger than what they thought it would be and they want to be associated with what the Dom moves like that, you know God damn well, right? You see, I'm letting you have a turn. Yeah, let me have a turn Cuffing no goddamn cribs. Where you get that from now you want to know now Let me get the floor facts in history. Let him give me history. That's what we're here for so the first thing in the planet was Crips The first star was a blue star so it was no bloods. No, it's no bloods First thing was Raymond Washington take it back to original form They started doing the way we do gangbangers There was always gangs businessmen journeymen's and all that so forth and then there came Raymond Washington And they created that new form of what we see now is Crips and bloods Crips came first in bloods came shortly after that, but before bloods there was pyros So originally before pyro street You know saying they was kind of like creeping over there, too And then the brothers of on pyro street took on that name and they took on the red banner So it kind of like we all said blood the word blood Like everybody didn't really have a connotation to red or blue because we all said it then somewhere about 70 I got to horsemen is 79 so 79 it started representing Blood was representing the red rag and then cuz representing the blue rag. So after about 79 80 It went to where the word BLOD stuff for the red side and so But the power rules Was a stiff there was a street out of Compton and they start forming that after the Crips to again Oh, listen, we won't take away from Crips was Here I mean it was really here. Hey, wait. That was really in protected communities, right against some other shit Is that right? They was protecting the community man. It's some other shit, right, but Ain't no Crips came over there and preach Lord preach. Listen We won't y'all to be the power We won't y'all to be our right No Crips came over there who creates their opposition. I didn't say that no That's exactly what you said by so the bloods came from the Crips No A lot of That like if you go back like even for instance if you ever interview Nick Cannon he'll tell you His father them was original Crips It goes the same way Original pyro they're gonna tell you that was Crips for everything in San Diego. There was Crips Originated from up here. There's no 59th Street in San Diego Five nine brim come from your area, you know telling the truth skyline You are over talking the question branch from So whatever the hell they was doing down in San Diego primarily was totally we was oblivious to that You know that am I Biden he's Trump? Oh Y'all got something to come No Trump gonna tell you what's gonna happen get ready for it. Yeah, at least it's a devil Because Lucifer they say Lucifer look good and he was cutting mother's from behind By so let me ask you a question. So is what he said true if you go to the original parus They was Chris. No, they definitely won Chris what he's saying is like he said a lot of people said blood A lot of people said cuz too because in blood. He knows meant something totally different. It was a Cuz didn't mean you creeping no cuz still don't mean you creeping in a lot of places The original like the question the answer the question is if we got to be intelligent we will address these things What I don't mean all bloods are all Paruse I'm just letting you know the history of it cuz it started like on the east side Raymond Watson Then they started moving so then as different fractions Because it was wasn't everybody like saying Crip. So it different fractions like When it was you know, you go to different school and one thing is moving here This different group of groups everybody claiming Crip then naturally as it goes from school to school places and places People start wanting to be the opposition to that. Mm-hmm. So then as an opposition you start having people that I don't want to be a Crip So but those who were already Crips Start saying for whatever reason they start beefing with dudes whatever reason then they start changing it changed over to be other The history and I know whatever no no and I know it's some factor what he said Yeah, I do know it's a little factor Listen no because listen, I was listening. I was in the studio with a young in from Camden and he said New Jersey. Yeah Camden, New Jersey. Yeah, they turn where they got a lot of and he said I'm a boy. He was saying he a blood or whatever. So I say young yet Like growing up in Camden like how you would you know, how you become a blood how you become a gangman like and his answer really was Well, you know, anybody else was a Crips. So I just decided to come a blood and I was like, no, but that's shit We're talking about Listen, no That's that's exactly what he said I'm not See see where don't got the history. Hold on you got to get the history You ain't got that fucking history. Hold on. What you telling me is first of all, you telling me is Niggas on Pairu Street No, that's all I'm gonna speak you know you telling me Yeah, it didn't start Was bullshit squabble over jacket with a crib, dude Pairu Street. They weren't Pairu's like it was a day. It was Pairu Street, no you Pairu Street, but it was Pairu boy a bunch of niggas that grew up on the same street Just like I claim a listen listen the individual who got into the altercation with the Crip, dude This happened to be off of Pairu Street. Mm-hmm. They squabble started went where it went and They damn sure wasn't gonna say well fucking we creeping Right, so they definitely went the other way. They wasn't red No, no, but no you're saying like they was creeping and then we went that way Oh, no, I never said it's Pairu's a crib. No, you said we can't if I did I didn't play I'm saying we came from y'all cuz I was only referencing a Pairu to my side So I use Pairu Street. Give your history Pairu Street, right, but before any of that It was a creeper there. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fight you on that And wait and it didn't what it didn't mean but what charm would it mean to see one of 69 Anything after that? second It's second you mean Crippin Second no, definitely not Because in our world and our world we always gonna be proud man. He know that You know that one thing he know listen For five six to one when it started Y'all come on my nigga when a homie when a homie start creeping start Pairu and blood You niggas was all way already deep as a motherfucker was you not what you mean? No, no, no exactly my point. No, but watch this over look. Well, look here goes the point When they seen it evolve it They couldn't stop it. It was over y'all can't stop it over. What you mean? It's stronger ever did stronger than dating No, see, I'm not a part of that what you mean It was over out of heaven. Let it would have been reversed six bloods six power rules to one That's not true though. We wouldn't allow y'all to flourish It wouldn't happen How could y'all just it's easier than six to one nigga? That's easy the fuck you mean That's you would have to continue to be on ignorance. Exactly at some point people have to grow We didn't stop doing ignorant shit to about 20 years ago. No, that was a long time before that I Start way on the igna stuff way before that when you had that Jerry curl now cut it off Wait, what was it? Listen, I could have Jerry curl off. I left all the Ignorance Bobby with his crimping and blood. Yeah, but his internal Cripping Crip beef. Nah, he ain't stop shit. No We went to the pen you read me Couldn't even walk a yard with more than four sixties on the yard. That's why do you think that was that's because I don't think they would say Do right here in this file can't be on the yard. If it's any more than four Confirm ignorance that because I was at the police. No, no, no, that is safe And a prison yard I had some I had majority of my cases was on officers starting from my Cross-race in 1991 all of my cases are officers because you really know karate though, right? I knew him I grew up with him. We grew up saying, you know, I'm not the nigga karate. I'm talking to you know karate Yeah, me a while. Oh, yeah, thank you. My name is the fuck out here. No, no, no, no People know my name out here in the martial arts. Okay, you know that they told me in this prison They was told mommy and Tino and said Queen. Hey, I know what both of you niggas got in common Y'all both got black belts in jail Jetsu, bitch Fuck you Rice and all The soup the rice the movies talking about this morning This brand you tell what you miss brands just more shit None by no cheat cheese. It's cool. That's an East Coast shit Oh Okay, you know on a on a East Coast they the fuck wait wait wait hold on I know I know big you not talking with me and big you got introduced to each other maybe 2009 Yeah, but right and that when you got your ass whoop in the movie. Well, yeah resting piece of nipsey house So that's the difference. So we're gonna get to that right now. No, what do we know the movie? No, he was in the first down New Mexico Fuck Steve The first move was me with him when I put nipsey him and I was in that movie. Yeah, yeah No, but I seen even got the movie the one yeah, V Shout out the wack up. So so, you know what meet big you know Kicking in here. I'm saying so I talked to a nigga, right? From Philly that live out here and the niggas say Yeah, man, I see you be you be hanging with draws. I said what? You name draws so hanging with The fuck is you talking about man? He's over. No, you'd be withdrawals. I Said dog. I don't know what type of kinky shit you on I'd be withdrawals. He said, yeah big you So what the fuck you just call him draws for he said that's his name It's another name to couple names. I said I ain't never in my life calling the nigga draws, man Big you why the fuck is your name draws? I'm confused. Yeah, I can't miss you on me Because that's another thing y'all niggas gotten caught that was the whole story in jail you was draws He was panties Hey, listen, you know, you have multiple jobs in a joint, right? Yo, he was a lifeguard in the prison showers Hannibal No, that's what I was. Oh, yeah, I forgot. This is other name. This is Muslim name like name Hannibal draws big you. This is the most funny part about it, right? You know what the fuck would be talking to us and and be talking about the same person They don't know they're talking about the same person. Wow Hey big you. What's up? Shit, nothing much. Yeah, I've seen that nigga draws the other day That's crazy man Why do you call you draw stuff? 10 don't want to see Oh I heard him shut him down like two weeks ago on the phone. No, no, no, no, no, shut it On the phone, what's she telling shut him down. What told him call me a buster buster You got your damn nerves. I had your mama waiting two three hours called you a bust. Oh Hold up. Hold up. No, no, no That ain't worse than his Your woman too. Y'all had to get permission to come on side. I had the tax. Oh, your niggas had to get permission No, nigga, nigga. We don't have you lying. Hey, he on the grab Nigga we can I'm telling you niggas You'll tell you this I always take a day Man, I know he was running. I was running every goddamn when we was just out in Atlanta We run him We get to the room at five in the morning back up eight in the morning running again So when I get back off the plane Why don't you take a day to just So, okay, so let's get this right. I'm gonna hear because it's y'all because you was running and you that's why That's why I had to ask boss lady could you Could you damn sure turned that phone? Well, she was supposed to come up with an excuse for me not to come because I set it up for the morning And then once she said I could come out you could go. I had to get up and come down there You was laying. Oh, let me tell you about I was coming out of the honeycomb hideout We in the Dominican Republic, right? We weren't even supposed to come out. Listen. We in the Dominican Republic, right? No, matter of fact, we in st. Tom is me my wife Big you his wife big softy Ving rames. You don't break right down as soon as you say something. So We sitting at the table His wife Stacy tell him Yeah, nigga, because you're getting so I don't know what he was having a personal conversation. Hold on You know Stacy da Muto What? Whoa Yeah Come through a whole girl. Yeah, you don't marry in you go out. No. No. Hold on. No. No. Oh Oh, so yeah, come on. So you wouldn't gotta out of the yeah, he knew what He knew what I'm saying. How the fuck did you do that because he knew what he's how it was How did you go to the outside and get the nigga when the kid never they ain't put nothing They ain't go through with you about that. I went through it with a couple of them. I had to train a couple of them In the right way Hey, look his enemies too. He went to a he didn't go to like At a train of movies He go to his rota 60s direct enemies. Oh these niggas was in love with her I'm talking about I had to whip a couple of niggas over Hey But let me tell you she's telling nigga, you know, I don't even think it was for the rest of the table to hear But she's telling the niggas on some deep shit. She said yeah nigga, because you're getting solved What and he say I'm instigating damn getting solved So now was out the whole table. She looked right at me. Yeah, gilly nigga getting solved So now he gotta say now he gotta speak up. No, no, no, no. See what I tell you about I ain't getting so One of my homies was at your house and he did something she ain't like She wanted me to break the nigga arm and I ain't break the nigga. Yeah, she looked at me. Listen. She looked at him and said Yeah, you're I go to sleep now cast this analogy You remember how you called me about a little youngster or a little family? We did some fuck shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And So you you could have cut his head off. Yeah. Yeah. Cut the ear off Stacey was like You should have cut the nigga ear off or you should have did something to it It was like the nigga arm Yeah, this the the only difference is stacey against the reason why a woman doesn't rule a nation Reason why a woman shouldn't rule a nation because they rule with emotion And a man won't because I over stand Sometime if I do something Let me explain it to you. What you acted off emotion You tell him you just beat on wherever it was with one like I don't do Okay, you didn't want me because I could have lost more by being physical one of the homies who did something wrong Or I could have let that go and let everybody else see that I show mercy Sometime and her mind is no cut his ear off. You should at least cut his ear. You should have got some But every time you don't use brah So it's safe to say that it was growth involved. It was growth. That's No, she was she was like, no, you getting soft. She's like you should have and I'm like, no, but look at where But then we don't do it that way never had another problem since then still doing everything But hold on oh, bro, if we don't do it that way and we taking count Then they telling us we should make better decisions and we being too mean You know, I learned from youngsters. Let me tell you something I had a situation having one of my homeboys and they pay a pay a debt And he didn't do something And I called one of my other homies said look bring him to me So when he got to me but before he got to my homie said my other homie said Uh, you like you like pops, you know, you like, uh Like man, you were having a scared in the world because we can't make one mistake And so every since my little homeboy said that to me And he was basically talking for simply for somebody else. He wasn't even the one who was on the table, but he made me Realize like, okay You can't just be Bronze all the way and I hate to give a story like my one of my one of my one of my close friends Well, here go the problem with that, but you know what the problem was, right with that Here go the problem, no deal dog It's prime example. Here go the problem. Yeah, real shit. Here go the problem, right? You got our generations We kind of grew up What the we was running our own shit And fuck what you're talking about, right? So we're coming up like that, right? We never gotten trouble because it was a problem Even if we was wrong We squatted up because we had to squad we was head on squads and we went at the problem Whether it was a homie some enemies some older niggas, whoever it was. So As you get older, right? You're not really used to dealing with We just gonna smash you. Right. So by him saying And he right Because while he mentioned in Dale dog You got to remember it's some young niggas in there that got some of your traits, right? Knock your ass down. Right, right? So and some of these dudes are I don't I don't I like the I like the teacher and student over the Over the the shot called a tank Some of these dudes they we teachers to them as students and one day they have fill our shoes Right, and then hopefully we've talked them to show a little mercy I have a little patience because you can't take a a real motherfucker and break him when he had this early stage of growth to where he doesn't really Turn into what he could have become because we wasn't we weren't great teachers It's like if a motherfucker that really came reading you sort of teach him how to read you like you stupid motherfucker You ain't you can't sound out the word. He had never learned how to sound out the goddamn word Right. He'll say that to me about my nephew a lot because I'll be on him. Yeah What you mean? I'll just be on him. I just because you you breaking him. No, no I'll be on him. He ain't in the streets and that but I'll be on him because I'm not saying that I just be I understand What's going on with the youth and I understand how A simple ride you could lose your life a caption a caption on instagram. You could lose your life Like it's different. So I just be so much Like just just proud knowing to just be up on him about a little move like no You get it and give it like cuz you gotta let him, you know, gill. He does that a lot. He does that one thing I can say because I can go to his house. They can be 12 kids over there Ain't none of these kids got his last name Have the kids he don't know how long they've been there But you know, they get in there going to school going to football practice, but I'm gonna tell you what's happening These little motherfuckers right because they in that environment they in the 60s, right? So they're gonna cuz they go neighborhood. They're gonna do all that but then whack a shoe up at the house Right walking the door And they know oh, that's whack from par rule, right? Right. So at a younger age, they getting something we didn't get They're seeing the interaction Right so that hatred or that dislike or that because now freaking aside now They start talking to me and then I you know, I do my shit I've been asking some questions reward them with a little money We go over here get on some shoes or whatever or they see me donate some to the Football thing or whatever. So then I become unc You know what I'm saying? So he does and not and not a nigger from the power. Exactly. He does a lot of that So so with that the colors, right, you know, being from the east coast. I see our real You know, real heavy on the colors. What's what's acceptable? What's a not what's not acceptable for you know, I mean for people to come out You can't me and him was different Like We have arguments being him that had arguments We ain't talking six months But if it's his wife birthday or something going on, I'm a Texan happy birthday sis and all that And then if it get a little bad, he do the same thing with my wife never get a little bad I just I I can sick his wife on him And then she'll start getting on because we know who the boss is because we know He always do shit. Yeah Oh my god. He's always just fucking up No, listen, it's always the young nigga fucking up I'm always So you've never you never never was a little out of out of wrong about something not even a little bit On some real shit. I mean speaking. What were you talking about? But there ain't nothing you try to go to war with me. No, this nigga Did you not try to go to war with me? You try to go to war with me. No, that's why more of a brother than you And you are to me You feel like you are definitely more of a brother to big you didn't try to initiate a war with With all the shit I have to take because of this nigga Did you not try to get me? Are you fucking kidding me? Do I show up this nigga has do I show up bro? This nigga do I show up beefs in his head. No, I don't I put a cap on this thing and text one night. I love his shit. He did a um What was that fucking I have no idea what you're talking about You know what the fuck I have no recollection this nigga did a fucking text and I made a comment on under the text With smiling faces and smothers you're laughing This nigga calls and tell my what is that you trying to diss me? You know, I you know why I did that You know why I did that you know why I did that you bought because you bought polo. No, that's not why Was you a cell gangster? I did that because I can't think it's by polo Yeah, you did it because you were so getting to the joint nigga I did damn in six years off seven with half. Were you telling what that means, bro? The fuck out of y'all the fucker But listen, listen, listen, you shrunk since you came on from jail Is it true that the uh area in brotherhood was selling you steroids that you should never took steroids? Well, you was how the fuck you was that big in jail. Listen to me. You didn't know that We're gonna pull the picture all workouts are extensive. We got high stars. High stars dies in there Who told you to answer? No Not only on that, bro, you know I was one of the dudes I didn't smoke cigarettes smoke weed drink coffee. I didn't do none of that And you didn't do that either. You look like you nigga. Yeah, but you just said he had some panty shit going on I don't know about what's going on. He was out here. No, he was draw. I don't know It's bad. I don't know How do you get the steroids from the ab I don't I don't even fuck with needles Bro, didn't you No, I'm gonna keep it all way real low I figured out though all not the new school niggas like blueface and nipsy and You know, all them niggas is slim gyms resting piece of nip in you know, but all the old school niggas He was fascinated with weights and no no no for the first christmas gift niggas got a way set in the yard A lot of us was athletes before we left them niggas was sick. All of us was athletes were football We're positioned. I was wishbone quarterback or we tell back You was wishbone. Yeah, we were in the boat. You know what the niggas wish you to get in You know I was we tell back a wishbone quarterback Your wishbone quarter your bone quarterback is really a it's a runoff in so the fast No, he was good. 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Like you may hear about vanilla ice or hear about this hear about that What people not talking about is The little young black dude who produced ice ice baby and was old for a million dollars What they're not talking about is explain what they're not talking about is How he attempted to get his business done with vanilla ice and his team and they wouldn't do it So it came to shirk for assistance shirk first step was to had attorneys contact him and figured out That didn't work. So he wrote this black guy wrote ice ice baby. He did the beat You did the beating never got paid never got paid and they was pretty much telling them. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you Fuck you. So at the end of the day when shirk exhausted All of the means of trying to communicate with this dude, you know the right way The only thing got it done was the wrong way which made it right So, you know, um A lot of things he did marry jay. She probably got a story or two to tell y'all shirk not helped her contracts KC and jojo the jodesy hammer hammer It's a lot of people to where it's kind of like in school. So shirk was just hanging niggas out there No, it's kind of like no, no, no, no No, he helped get their money because at the end of the day He he's trying to turn away in this way and that way this way and they ducking and dodging I mean this man over his old four million dollars, right? So at the end of the day, you know, it's a by any means necessary He started the right way. It just went the wrong way because you think about it who who not won't Sign that contract when he hanging off the balcony Yeah, but he listen, if you know, listen, if you know this lift You gonna you're gonna crack even after you sign a contract like a melon Even after you sign a contract when you in that type of situation If you know that contract was by force and it this contract is fraudulent, right? It's still something you're gonna go do about it after the fact No, the reason why he never pursued doing nothing about it because he knows this man was old money It should have been interest on the money. Mm-hmm Right. So I would say that she got a lot of he got a lot of bad. He helped he helped Way more than people. Yeah. He helped a whole lot of people. He helped turn 30 cents A album to an artist to 30 percent Yeah, we do that with no he did what everybody He changed the pay scale of the industry. Yeah, he also Opened the doors the people saying oh, what the fuck is that universal in the scopes doing death row records Oh, who was that over there? Oh, they signing these independent labels that have these artists He created that lane for us. Yeah, right. He did he did all that. I can't take that from him. So, um It's a lot of things he didn't do But I mean, you know that it's it's a you know It's give and take with this shit and draws no because we didn't been through a lot of so you call them draws Well, look, we didn't been to a lot of situations, right? So you call them draws draws big you we all call them team But you call them you do call big you. Yeah, well, he knows what one more question See, I think you think draw means one more question. Yeah, one more question One more question if you call him panties. No, you don't he know better than that. We'll be squabbling outside. You said You said I thought it was all through and I do have that video y'all wrestling that ain't never came out That should have come out on whack 100 instagram page. Thank you. And that shit is fucked up. Yeah Yes, I got it. And what was I I seen the Top out. I know your kids and she's being all that Don't fuck it. You know, I'm saying that alone But but back to sugar but but when it came to sugar is cut, you know draws and sugar is They smile more than me and sugar Right, you know, it's six months out of year is love. The other six months is fuck you Did you ever think you was crazy though? Because he said you always I'm burnt the fuck out Okay, from the from the from the yard. No, just before that been our our environment. What you mean? Okay, come on y'all from Philly You go to school you watching killings and stabs and prostitution and dope dealing you get to school. You got to fight come back. You got to fight Your your mama fucked up your daddy smoking. You got to you know, I'm saying the dog like like we all You know, we got to come outside and figure out You know, we all is a little dysfunctional in our own little way But I stay functional by being in tune with understanding You know user fucked up individuals when I start thinking fucked up. I'm in control of myself He fucked up too. He's just humble now. He's fucked up. He's a humble fucked up Not at all. No, listen, he's just I think the muslim faith Saved him sound like a brother No, real shit. Let me ask you a question off script off script. Yeah Growing up on the east coast when we was in juvia and all that we read books about This side, you know outside of colors. We the book that we had in jail was monster cootie book Yeah, yeah, yeah great book a lot of lives, but great book was exaggerated Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Wait nigga What do you mean? Dad's rated house. There was a lot of it exaggerated. Wow. Monster cootie was a dofin crack Monster cootie was hold on they talk about monster cootie like like like how they speak on big U But I'm gonna say this you can't be a dofin Right, that means you fell victim to the game right and still get the same credit in the same statute as somebody that didn't understand what I'm saying? So I'm not saying he wasn't a rod in his own in his own way but you know shit if any of us write a book you know we're gonna make it seem a little more than what it really is because guess what these people on the East Coast that's gonna read and y'all gonna believe every motherfucking word you believe you read you know what I'm saying so I'm not saying that the nigga was some punk nigga none of that but they tried to make it look like when he walked in the motherfucking room it was just silence and everybody was shaking in a booth that nigga was some H. Ray gangsta that nigga had a notorious motherfucking set an enemy called the Rolling Sixties and them niggas was feeding on each other you know I mean outside of everything else they didn't get along with the whole hoods the car what about the East Coast is I mean you know understand where you from right around the corner now I know anything with all or anything with a neighbor went on with his enemy so he wasn't he damn sure wasn't walking in nothing shutting shit down like that you know that one I ain't taking nothing from you know I really read the book though no I read it was a great book the great book he wrote three books I only read one my security was the one that changed the game for people in the East Coast reading that shit in the joint I told you a couple years ago remember the book I heard people talk about it like I had I had a I had a book I did work where the book is like I got it kind of got it from Dean Coons I know you ready to be two or three different stories going on and they all come together in the end so I was telling draws we should do the same book like he start off the first two three chapters and their minds come in and he has come pick up from where is that and as you get to the end of the book as it did in reality shit come together rest in peace the big took you let me ask you a question big to be a big you as a what just in the only yard I'll big you got the record 32 knockouts one ride over big you said I ain't taking nothing from me but I mean wait hold on wait you knock 32 niggas out one right it was a ride was a hundred and it was document 129 he knocked no 30 32 niggas out on camera back you I got him sleep no problem I think I'm just gonna make it was where you had to put some big a suit on that shit we went we went for eight minutes that's a long time y'all right hold on so what you got three people so you talking about somebody let me paint another picture dog that's probably 80 and 90 pounds lighter fifth degree blackbill what a street squabble was who was with you how many how many people soldiers was nice it was only 19 blacks all together nice bless reward with the muskets how many Mexican whites was a hundred 29 hundred 29 messy whites on the yard damn we got out niggas got out 29 you ain't put no fucking working you wasn't there you wasn't any motherfucking right I had been places with him me and him pulling up here my car soon as they get away from me a cause they tell you fuck you cost me on the yard trip no it was one of them situation with everything you hit every punch you through every kick I threw it was one of them we didn't we didn't eight nine quarters wait wait we back on in 300 pounds but this is in that mother nigga roll out the bed and do let me get the right to work huh so you mean to tell me oh you got that big you Eugene Henley give me the situation we're gonna go when I can do it today in the yard in your 260 260 no I was 230 230 230 something right Jerry curl drip no Jerry girl little girl no Jerry that was a Minnesota what's your head vector we're kind of cut right damn you should have you had an activated fried this is killed this killed his roots you had already had the convertible you just in the yard just well now you know what but you know what we're gonna miss the street fighting in with that too is you gotta miss the straight they're the initial graduation they came to me the next day with the tape and showed us that no it came with you was in the whole 15 days now we was all on like they like the yard back there because it was too many of us in to the hole so they only took the people that was in the hole was the ones who actually had puncture wound injuries like that those only ones go straight to the hole everybody else get locked down everybody y'all gonna get locked down till they can separate who else then they go with your Fi cards and then they go with the skismatter to see where they picked you up I mean I was close to you was any how many knives close to you so that's how they do it they try to free the yard so in the yard first go down we get into the first hard occasion with demoing and then they get the best of us on this side so then the police come and hear the thing they shoot so they stop this is your stop then they take off again we get back up and then it's going again they start shooting again so one or two people get shot now we already grouping everybody looking at find out then we're going again so then it should go on for maybe it's a long time eight minutes in between is eight minutes of all action is going out so now by time is is is like the last wave we got the advantage now because now we didn't they seem like really only 10 or 15 of us is going and then by that time by that time niggas ain't got in the same huddle yeah this was the 60s of which is all the black you know what I'm saying I could tell you one thing that y'all two I'm in hard as a mother you know he had a motto yeah what he had his motto when she get the popping I get locked in no no this way see when the Jordan jumped off on the east side right this is what happened this what happened this what happened this what happened so you can lock it up no no no he got the problem you was pulling a little evil I got nigga he got neighborhood name oh look this nigga name little evil name is concession real fuck boy nigga so the home so he killed him on fucking stabbing when he's 16 right so we go to jail right they knock his teeth out his mouth some shit and TS or whatever so we stop gangbanging turn muslim that's cool I know a lot of muslim that's creepy why so that's the thing it was the shit wait wait wait wait wait wait wait hold on wait wait so is that the thing L.A. when Nick's gonna stop gangbanging they turn muslim Christian he turn muslim but he was still gangbanging no no no we got a lot of homies on the street no we got a lot of homies that's muslims they still bloods of krybs apart whatever and that's cool but when you how you come in what you supposed to come out right so if you know no no no if you turn muslim right you supposed to go with crazy about you turn muslim right and you do your time 20 some years now remember I remember he could when the bloods is going at it right this nigga saying I'm a muslim you put in a wallow lock it up whoa don't fuck with me no this way you go farther so he do 26 years and then the then he gets out and he come to the neighborhood right the first thing he do he go to Domino's Pizza and invest in the pepperoni pizza right now was what's up blood this power rule again right this top of shit but then he do a weird shit with his feet and sea shells and weird shit so he don't know if he assalaam alaykum if you own this it's just real shit I believe stuff is real shit y'all don't get you do it buddy he owns somebody here but this is real bro bro Christian and you parola Christian fuck what you're gonna be like round who we talk about though he talk about the boy listen man come on they will be the brother that text you you return his text leave him the fuck no but this is the problem who was the brother was his name his weird nigga name is Kassashi they call him little evil he got a little evil about nigga in Vegas went to Vegas for his first time in his life didn't do nothing gamble right oh surreal shit he went in a homie turn muslim stop banging locked it up when the homies went to gotten to shit and then when he paroled the nigga went to Domino's piece and best in the peppermint pieces took a body that pork he lied all of a sudden he lied he lied he lied he lied he didn't know pork he was muslim in Christian listen he listen he lying on me let me let me let me touch me I don't respond you know I don't respond good because me and you don't have no conversation I personally don't fuck with anybody who laid the flag down like that you get out try to pick it back up I'm not gonna fuck with you cuz I tell me you were scared as a motherfucker you manipulate you know homie might have needed you could might could have saved a homie life in a rod or some shit anything could have happened so if you you went in that way and change that way that's cool come home that way but don't get out and involve yourself in them politics I'm gonna tell you what happened when when the shit jumped off on the fucking yard I get in my stance yeah I go to I go to bust a move my fucking guard tackle it all that like yeah it fucking guards so you can I'm like the whole two guards tackle me I'm in hold I'm locked up I'm looking out the yard I'm like first of all wait yeah I was ready to get busy I get I get a story right while over the yard right they called me from from up there you cuz we are better than crazy man a nigga on the yard he looking over there towards while over now so while all the only nigga that's really on alarm it so niggas are walking over it in the midst of the walking they could pull the sword out screaming like a white woman in a scary movie right whole time the nigga running up the stab the niggas standing behind him no this will happen this will happen the big listen he keeps messing it up he was coming towards my way my direction I was already stretching to take a run I was right now I was stretching to run I was ready to run so you just have to wait until they identified it and reported it was that a nigga chasing me to y'all with a knife for don't read this was a older cat that's that kisashi shit no this is older cat this is a older cat I think you let me ask y'all another question cuz all y'all three y'all been like nigga where seashells he like we got a foot fetish how you know you got a foot fetish why you keep looking at his feet I was in prison for the nigga got a foot fetish weird shit the fuck that beat nigga told him off a POW nigga told him off a okay in the prison yeah when I was in prison I was a prisoner of war you was a prisoner of war yes sir you did the fucking crime damn it the fuck is he talking about are you talking about you mean so you was in prison for no reason did you get caught I was in prison I was working for my people you was working modern day Robin Hood listen you know what I'm not gonna even say none because I can't you was really working for your people right yes I was okay so trunks and all that time so all that was incorporated I was pushing the agenda agenda so your agenda it was clean the neighborhood trunks and rope so I was I was bagging my my victims closets yeah dark places I was bagging my now what was happening to get your people I was helping my people to advance so so whack you went in at 16 oh the last time yeah I was a solid did you go in as a youth no I just no I just time I was I mean I was but I mean I started doing time like 11 years ago because okay because Wildo went in at 17 okay and he said you know he that was his first time going to jail 17 no no he went in jail my whole life he got 11 and then 13 15 and then yeah so but then when when he went to the big house mm-hmm at 17 that was something new to him you feel what I'm saying and you know back you don't have youth authority out there no he got certified youth authority he got certified as an adult he won't write in that's like that's that's like pre-training for prison no no no no no no you know no he won't write in he sometimes they certify you as an adult and you go right in with it you feel what I'm saying no they did me like that so when he went up to him really know the ways of prison he knew the ways of juvenile and you know back then that was back in you know only got something between juvenile and prison called californ youth authority which is a state like even when you get out 14 15 16 you on parole so that whole shit we pretty much running and operating it but but hold on hold on let me get to my point let me get to my point because you ain't got no dog feeling no I just put in for my uh punishment yeah I just love it so you know Walu explained on a prior podcast that you know when he went to jail he was 17 he ain't no you know and you know he was up there with some old heads that were showing him the ropes you know my old head was teaching him how to box and shit but the whole time you know back then old heads used to you know get their dicks off the shelf viciously get there why they used to take the dicks off the shelf viciously in jail they used to you know I don't know what happened in penitentiary what is that he was in Dallas the pink palace where they raped niggas on the norm and back and back then it was a whole head who taught niggas how to box who was trying to finesse him and then dress him and he didn't know so you mean he was behind him showing him how to throw the job he wasn't behind me he wasn't behind me he's lying on me hey he definitely was so he was trying to say this what I'm saying what I'm saying what I'm saying line on me come in tight he lied on me man what line on me I know you wanted that to you ain't no oh he's ever try to finesse you by the time I hit the penitentiary matter of fact it's crazy because one is homeboys try to finish it try to slide no one's home was looked out for me damn man we had a code we have a code on order man we went from Delano to no no no we know they picked me up in juvenile hall and went to Delano which is intake and he had a homeboy big fish resting peace and um when I get to the holding tank I'm the only blood on the bus right so you get up you scared to the truth no hell no I'm a Y baby so we firecrackers you gotta fuck us up we firecrackers so you like I didn't go from juvenile hall to this setting weak our mentality and why is like a junior your mentality was like nigga I can't wait to hit the yard we're in there buffering work I can't wait to hit that's our mentality right because it's like a junior penitentiary yeah when I went in there and it was like nigga where you from where you anybody where you were if it's a roll call crypt is crypt that crypt is crypt that what would nigga power up and then the whole saying oh we got us one right by that time the fuck out no I stood up well we got his woman that means we got us one nigga fuck you mean I'm the eyeball in the tank wrong with you but when I stand up when I stand up right oh we got us one like two three niggas like two three niggas jump up and then his whole boy I didn't know him I didn't know him but he could tell I was young I ain't got no goatee I mean I love mother 16 years old right right nigga jumped up and said nah nigga on six old nigga claimed he said nigga head up but nothing nigga just like that like that niggas were scared of this nigga I guess because he didn't say nothing the whole bus trip but I guess this niggas a penitentiary legend by this time in and out but who said that big fish big fish I mean and it was crazy because years later when I up talk I guess fishes just came on not too long before he passed yeah it came up he called me right but and if we end up catching the chain of solid that together let me ask you a question do you ever look out for big fish for saving you out that ass with me well fish pass for I can see you safe to say you was gonna take a ass with me yeah it was like eight or nine of them yeah so it was safe to say you know you know the rule of thumb is try to punish the first two absolutely you squabble up don't ball up is what it is absolutely they didn't remember who it was and when you run into them niggas one by one you get to that's the key baby hey let's get into our next one let's get it or not 32 I'm out at once one thing about this don't keep swinging if you out there and you got a e-commerce you doing anything use what I use shipstation.com listen you get free 60 days when you use cold game on shipstation.com one thing about ship station got one interface I don't care if you're on amazon I don't care if you're on ST your own website shipstation bring everything into one interface I'm talking about UPS I'm talking about some FedEx whatever you use United States Postal Service go to shipstation.com they'll take care of everything for you once again you're at free 60 days when you use the cold game shipstation.com now hold on let's let's get into this right because under whack do you fuck with real estate heavy heavy doing real estate private since about 2000 last 20 years I know y'all fucking real estate this is my guy right here Tony to close both side heavy in the real estate he's heavy in teaching the real estate both sides of it though commercial from the from the credit repair so hold the mic up tone so residential and commercial but yeah so that's what I do I do uh really I've been getting a lot of people in the game with wholesaling I don't know if you're familiar with wholesaling that's on the single family side right residential basically putting people in the position to start without the money a lot of times people get in the real estate game they think you got to have either a real estate license or a lot of cash up front but I'm teaching people a strategy basically where you buying uh you buying basically the properties using the contract and then selling the contract to a cash investor on the back end so you basically middle-manning and that's been a it's been a big selling notes selling the selling the paperwork selling the contract essentially so I get the contract from a homeowner and then sell the contract to a buyer we you know just basically a real estate game isn't no people like us correct I want to buy the real estate connecting the dots that's the whole game let's see I'm gonna cut you out because you cost me money no I'm my joint chief I said my wife to school to get her real estate uh license on the flip side I got um my my my finance guy uh Travis Wilson right he handles A to Z whether it's fucked whether we got to fix the credit whether it's paperwork whatever got to happen you got to happen so like right now I got a two main on the home so I send my wife and the representative buyer and seller and then we do the finance side which is three points there is three points on the other side and then that's how I've been working it so I can help you out with something so it's good that you got you know the people that can help you save the money on actually buying and selling the real estate but the hardest part for most people is what finding the real estate itself those off-market properties so I go get I go get I go I specialize and actually finding those deals those discounted deals that people might go be going through foreclosure whatever because once you got the the property then you can do your part yeah I'm seeing it before people touch it so I'm gonna reach it just east coast wherever you need that oh yeah that's we all over the country yeah everywhere yeah everywhere and that's so the whole I mean I get the list too though right I can track the list it just be daunting tracking it I get the list of my phone I get let me tell you I'll put you on game so I got a website called www.closersdata.com c l o s e r s d a t a data so closersdata.com right on there you get all the pre foreclosure tax liens all the MLS listings so basically you know how sometimes he's wife with your brain yeah that's gonna be yeah it's gonna it's gonna save you a lot of headaches so you know a lot of times you got to go and look for the courthouse or whatever to find access to the data so my my website basically puts you right where you can get data from all over the country so all over Cali wherever you at now you got access to to real live data of foreclosures tax liens just high equity leads senior listings right now a lot of old people with the COVID passing away this is how I'm getting a lot of people right now that can make money because they're getting these properties cheap because when people are passing away the kids and everybody don't want to take care of this house they can't they don't know they'll have the money or the means to be able to manage it so we go buy those properties and then I sell them to people like you they got yeah yeah that's the that's the yeah we definitely can talk because I just bought some I just bought some stuff I just heard somebody do something in Georgia that I was I've been thinking about we talked about this few years yeah they brought some acres and kind of built their own community oh yeah and I was you know I've been really thinking about going up like that in Detroit real or two yeah and the reason why I was thinking about because you know it's other places outside even right here in California like a lot of our people going to Arizona other people going to Nevada right and where um they're going to Atlanta too it's a lot of Vegas going crazy right now they only did like 90 acres though we need to go get like 500,000 acres we can do that too especially we do it like they're about Atlanta we just got a little bit in that area and built it up where it's just all black businesses black community black real estate you know what I'm saying let me ask you a question take it off of there for a minute blue face um I'm green face I come to you how you're going to take me to the next level I'm an artist what's the what's the game give us get a person that's listening to what I'll pry myself and doing because I learned is a lot of these labels they want you to already be going have a following a couple hundred thousand followers you know a couple million streams and stuff like that um what I've done is tapped into what they know how to do if you got a music and I really don't want to pick the music my daughter is my real nr keeping it real I said you send me something because a lot of shit we like it ain't it ain't what it is right you know gilly know you know it's it's it's a lot of gimmicky stuff and and and unlike our era where the same sound might be around three four five years this should change in every quarter every four to six months it's a total different sound a total different thing so what I do the music comes to me I send it to my daughter she had thumbs up and thumbs down I bring them to the studio see they work ethic it's like three dudes back there just been here a month I don't put them on no paperwork I bring them in let them work amongst everybody if they're comfortable this is where they want to be then I do the paperwork with them but all I need is like I kind of require three records if it's one that's a smash and I can go with it but at from that point in time we just all the setup in the marketing absolutely you know what I mean you gotta have five six videos done have an EP done you know what I mean point that up um and it's the marketing it's it's YouTube and it's radios like a number four or five position radio is breaking down break it down tick tock is really number one old time road broke on tick tock we didn't pick that up on radio tick tock broke that tick tock is number one all right what else right from there sure your streaming platforms Spotify Apple things like that right okay after that is YouTube right then comes radio so this how it works they do a 15 22nd tick tock dance to your song right after it starts to move and go viral then they say well I want to hear the whole song they go to Spotify Apple they stream it they listen to it oh I like the song I want to watch the video and they go to YouTube radio is watching the numbers from YouTube Spotify Apple and tick tock and then that's dictating what they put into rotation who paying the most out of all the platforms um jay-z no they don't even pay no your niggas don't pay um title are you paying niggas well they stop nigga they ain't started no that's why you don't see a lot of you never see a motherfucker really posting a pushing title you know what I'm saying and remember I can't put that on jay-z he's just a face of that shit let's just be real he ain't in there with the end of workings but um who paid the most paid 4,500 per million um YouTube YouTube depending on what it is could pay between 1,600 and 2,500 per million right I think Apple pays like 6,200 per million right so and then you would say well god damn that really ain't no money because we came from selling the cd for 12.9 13.99 to a digital download to where a single was a dollar 29 and 90 cents after Apple got theirs right so that means a million digital downloads was 900,000 before you and the label cut it up right now a million streams it's $4,500 right ain't no money in it really no it's definitely a lot of money in it only way break it down why it's a lot of money you know i'm talking about in the streaming there's no it's a lot of money in the streaming let me break this a lot of money so i'm gonna tell you why because we killed the package and shipping costs right we don't have the cd and the cover in the label and shipping costs you know we don't have to buy back costs remember you ship $200,000 you only sell $100,000 the new kids never knew about it it's not even it's not it's not what i'm saying this is this is cost you don't have now here goes the here goes the cost is not involved but you gotta remember streaming unlike our albums they may ship $200,000 right once they ship them right and they sell it and they sell their ship another one it's gonna get to a point to where you only got $200,000 going here here there because the album is over with that motherfucking stream don't never stop that bitch don't never run out of a hundred million streams of a hundred million streams you're gonna get that's a lot that's like 4.5 million no two what a hundred million streams no boy shit that's a simple man two what you mean i got everything is done you gonna see i got do us go we're gonna split that what you want but i'm telling you is you know what i'm saying to you is the way these kids come in now and cap it and calculate the money it ain't no money in their head because if you're not doing a hundred million and you're not doing numbers like that on your stream you're not doing i know orders and they first year how much what it was it may 10 12 million dollars look how long we're taking to do it though look how long we're taking me to do a hundred million streams if you're not a top artist i hundred you're not because because how many of you do know streams are all calculated together i know that how many your orders did more than that other than blueface i mean blueface the only one i work do a true car that's how this game just for games not a stream an artist okay but it's this is what i'm trying to know okay now you're not a stream an artist they will not let's go where i'm going now we're gonna talk about what i said ain't no music in there the money ain't there like my book is thinking it no it's not there it's not there and money like they're not there for it's a difference between a streaming artist like he said and then there's artists who come out and they say oh push copies it's only very few my book is a stream like right now i don't sell them no more who who sell it who's streaming like who's streaming like this nigga uh tiger right niggas don't understand no baby no baby number one don't you know so little baby young boy what's little baby baby young boy but the thing is dim niggas is dim niggas is a new generation of new generation of music music movers everybody else coming up niggas you tell me you gotta do like 30 40 and a hundred thousand streams to really see some money oh hold up i gotta i gotta ask where it's coming where you don't see some money other than that tour is only where you're gonna get it tour merchandise and all that well you gotta understand what your streaming come pub you can't factor that out the pub is last bro i mean this is gonna happen at the same time now i wouldn't do streaming checks but no no look whether you do a pump you're not a pump checks come two three hundred thousand at a time yeah that's true that but you know you got streaming checks come the same i'm a nigga do one song what about it and it's coming on like you just said but it doesn't come and go with the stream because they're constantly coming back on the mic look listen i'm gonna pull this i'm gonna show you something right okay i'm telling you these niggas get caught in this to lose the grand these niggas remix right 30 years 30 years again yours is gonna be stuck it's remixed this shit it's been like 10 days 8.7 million it's telling me right now real time at nine o'clock our time 2000 people listening to this motherfucker right and it's continuous what happens that i need to get that no bro but you talking about blue face no i'm you talking about no i'm showing you the stream see right now with nobody be buying a cd because what you're talking about right he don't get what you're asking him you talking to him because you saying there's no money in streaming no no no listen he's talking to you he's talking to you for the people that's listening and he's asking you to talk to the people there's definitely how the music business work this music you know and i'm talking to you listen listen and i broke it i broke it down to them it was money and streaming for the successful orders these other niggas coming to the business where while it was action well yeah well yeah you gotta understand this work in this shit listen listen listen but but you gotta understand too from i understand both of y'all's sides now we're on the same side but listen listen whack is saying if you coming from an artist standpoint and you do this and you do this and you do this and you do this then you can see this you coming from the standpoint of if you motherfucking little boo boo from the hood and you're not right and you're not one of these niggas who able to go highlight spotify youtube stop that's why tiktok's important right i can put a song on right now he ain't never heard and this nigga got about 30 or 40 million streams in the last couple i got tiktok on both my every orders go with tiktok get the stream and go with all that i know exactly what he told me about this little dude but you gotta name who he never heard of him right because who was he tiktok within 30 days this nigga has 4.7 million monthly followers right what app is you're using to see all this shit and he got 33 million on that one song that they're tiktokking on now watch this you can look it on the tiktok now let's watch this so you can look on tiktok to see the tiktok song he from riverside my daughter do the same 48 thousand right from tikt ain't no ain't nobody ain't no radio ain't no nothing the nigga just shot a video like we could go right he calling us because he wants to do the remix right so what i'm saying is tiktok because everybody want to tiktok and tiktok went to oh i want to hear the whole song because they only listen to 15 20 seconds absolutely we sent them there oh they like the song and share it i've been i didn't see my daughter on zoom calls with 30 of them and they all sharing songs those are streams right let me ask you a question why did you explain to me and explain to the listener because you just do something out there i don't want you to throw it out there and and what big misleading people i don't know how i go when you just shot down title like that why can you could you back up what you're saying them niggas don't send us our checks how much money they owe what you're saying back it up like 6800 down there seven thousand so you know you put your shit over there because it's like it ain't gonna hurt to put it over there but nigga you down there gotta go to court to get your motherfucking money man title don't pay you don't remember when i saw you in philly i didn't mean we was talking to made in america back there you don't remember the title reps was going to people even cardi and motherfuckers was walking away from them because they don't pay i was with you paid spotify pay you two pay and title don't don't be wondering no you know what else pay barstool i'm not just one yeah but cheap you know but i'm not saying don't put your music over there i'm just saying you know um really it's more traffic use part of five apple pays more than spotify yeah but because like i can pick my phone up and go do research on artists like i can read like you the artist tell me his name and i'll go right on there while he telling me how hot he is like yesterday i can go on here and see what i've been researching are you telling me how hot you are i'm just gonna pull you up right and i'm gonna show y'all hot you are what you what what do you use to pull people up on like this dude right here um what do you want to give us the app this thing oh that's Spotify there's a little dude right here they tell me from bonnie hunters i think he signed the yg never heard of him they did a song called like blood walk or something so i never heard of him so i don't pass judgment on if i like this song or not because that really doesn't matter today you see there's a people like yeah the numbers i pulled them up this mother got seven hundred eighty six thousand monthly listeners you got a song on here there's eighty three thousand two hundred twenty three thirty thousand nineteen thousand that's one point four million which is the YG Lil Wayne so that shows me he has a fan base now you just gotta feed it and put that machine behind it which is always a machine either when it came to rate how much money you need to break your artist make him a number one me personally breaking the artist you're probably going to spend about how much money you put in the blue face with me no how much money for real you put in the blue face well video well you had a cold bitter video no but yeah the fuck he wasn't he was going but nigga i don't get it fucked up a tiata was out seven months before i touched it that's what it takes that she was out no no that was out in may i didn't touch it till november i didn't sign a nigga till august i touched it because you had what's never a third i touched it in november so he was going and moving and doing and he had a work ethic too though like a lot of kids i don't know he definitely had to work ethic that nigga was going around doing schools and shit a lot his kids don't have that a lot of us don't have that and that's what i'm gonna be real if you if you were in the streets give you if you're in the streets if you had a good 75 to a hundred thousand you can get an artist to where they need to be where you're gonna get that back and a whole lot more because the label won't let you put in the 75 no see that's not 75 thousand that's not 100 no no that's not true ho ho ho that's not true where you going let him figure out where he going that ain't true no no no i'm gonna tell you why i'm gonna tell you why because he not now i let him talk 55 mt what why that's not true because see he talking to motherfuckers and he talking he not explaining it's a lot more to that 75 what you see he's missing what you were asking he not realized you talked to a public so you got another motherfucking timeloo mississippi thinking he could take 75 000 do a whack did no 75 000 means you got to be whack 100 you got to be big you and you got to be gilly because whack gonna get with 75 000 that a lot of niggas not gonna get what he can do is we're not talking about artists no no no no no no no i'm not talking about that you're right you're right because you told me that you told me that i'm not talking about working the system that you're talking about features no we're talking about we're right we're talking about we're talking about a system now when when you talking about first of all you got niggas who can monopolize a situation where he can monopolize situations i can monopolize situation you can monopolize situation i don't need nobody to give my My kids have come to interview on Gilly's show. You understand what I'm saying? He don't need no money. No, that ain't what I'm talking about. But what I'm saying though, if you tell them up, but they only need $75,000 to $100,000. When I don't watch niggas go spend a million dollars and they do everything that you do, but they ain't you. Spend it where though? Where you want me to spend it at? Make a, give a whole chart list on what a niggas. I'm gonna spend it in the right place. Tell us what a niggas are right now. We're gonna spend it right here. We're gonna spend it right here. We're gonna spend it $75,000. Tell me what a niggas spend $200,000. You can go get your two teams. And not be wet. Hold on, hold on. You can go get your two teams, right? Right now, that's real shit. And put them on a retainer. It might cost you $15,000 a month. Right? How many months? 10 months is 150. No, you don't need to, listen, we play and listen. If an artist shows any traction, if you go on in this show, this dude got 250,000 monthly listeners and he got three songs that then did 800,000, 1.2 million, 2 million. Then he got some YouTube views over there where one song is 5 million, other one is 4 million and 3 million. We just talking like that. Fuck a radio. What are they gonna get out of this, just 200,000? Listen what I'm trying to tell you. You can take two teams and put them to work on all those platforms, right? Get your numbers where they're supposed to be and develop your fan base, right? And it's gonna be a label that's gonna come to you and say, hey, listen, whatever you spent, we'll give that back and we got a million for you. Believe that. That's possible. And I can take his kids and I guarantee you by the bottom of first quarter, motherfucker's gonna be banging on that door and get him a bag. He gonna fuck it up because he's an old head and he gonna be thinking about our deals instead of thinking about no, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on, don't you ever put this little body? They never fuck those deals up. Listen, you're gonna be, first of all, I'm there. You're gonna be sitting there. Well, now we got it on order. We got it on tape. You're gonna be sitting there. We got it on tape, right? Fuck that. What a camera. What camera do you get? They want this and that. Listen, he gonna be like, they want this percent of this percent of that percentage. You know what I'm saying? We got a whack on tape saying they gonna take mac and cheese and he's gonna put this thing down. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Spend a hundred, you're a hundred coming back. They wanna give you a million. Get them people they motherfucking 60% who give a fuck about that. They ain't a 360. You gonna get your merch, bridge. You gonna get your touring brand. They only want two albums. So what you talking about? I'm just saying. How much? How much? How much would you need to do that? I mean, with them? 75 hundred. Oh, I'm a wire to you right now. 75 hundred? I'll wire that shit right now. I'll wire that shit to you right now. No, he said 75 to a hundred. Whatever. I'll wire that shit right now. You don't gotta sit there. I'ma give them the game. I told you that. No, no, send me the video. You don't sit down long enough to get it. I'm right here. You don't give me no game? Shit. You don't sit down long enough to get it. Man, you know how you got one of them brothers who wanna just always talk about what he got? Hold on. First of all, I'm still in research mode. So I'm not gonna bring you something. Wait, wait, exactly. I'm not gonna bring you something. You ain't a researcher. You ain't a researcher. He just said the whole story so he can't be in research mode. He just told y'all a whole game, right? Just like anything else, just like Radio, you know this. Just cause a motherfucker on right now, you come back to him, he might be off. So what I've learned is that you gotta have at least five different teams. Cause any given day, these two motherfuckers might not be off. I just went to Atlanta with two more teams. I'm four teams strong right now with this shit, right? And they all hitting, right? So what I'm about to do right now is test these other two teams with true card, right? Cause I got this project done. I'm not gonna tell him, go on over here, get us through the bag. And I ain't tested it. Now if you wanna test it at the same time I'm testing, I'll let you do that. But I'm not gonna send you in there first because I'm responsible. You know, I'm from the old rules. The motherfucker don't do what he's supposed to do. I'm gonna run him this change back and then I gotta deal with it. So I'd rather go in and make sure it's solid. Make sure these people are who they say they are before I pass it. Now, if you wanna come in with me at the same time and we both know we wrote on the dice, I'd know what these motherfuckers had and it's that then we can do that. But I'm not gonna say, you're gonna call this dude and I ain't tested it. I'm gonna say this though, you're right. He will fuck the deal. He fucked up two deals already. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I get him, I get, I get us in the door. The motherfuckers ain't, we ain't even had him in the room. They heard two songs, two different labels. They're like, all right, we gonna get, he getting there talking some dumb shit. I told you that. So he was talking some, I already had, we had, I had two. Let me ask you a question. I had two. Let me ask you a question. We activated them yet. So, so they, they just hear the records. He wanna get talking his records. They hear the records. They see the look. He had too many deals. Listen, listen, listen, listen. They hear the record. They hear the records. They see the look, but we ain't put the traction in yet. So how much money, how much, they just didn't do the single deal. Wait, how much money they gonna get? I had all that shit out of, they got it. No. They sell merch right now. No, no, no, no, no, no. They cool. You probably could have did a single deal for like 300. No, but we gonna come back. I was on it. We gonna come back. I was on it. I bust the moves. So we get the traction. We gonna come back. Well, how long ago has it been since you came back? No, no, it ain't been too long. It's not too long. It ain't been too long. It's been COVID. How long? COVID kicked in a little bit. No, but see, COVID ain't stopping the platforms. No, no, no, no, no, it's set that shit down for a couple. No, no, no, no, no, no. Stream is up. Oh, no, no, no. It is. And it's about to be up. Stream is up. Radio. Streaming went down. Then it went down. But what I'm saying is you could have did a single deal for those young men, right? They wasn't giving them 300 whack. What was they giving them? They wasn't giving them 300. What was it? I could have made it happen. What was it? He started talking that record. He started talking that plus American in budget. He started talking like he was a fucking entertainment lawyer. I told you, you're going to fuck it up. Hey, Wacky, you're not ass-niggas. See, I knew y'all was too. I had these people. I knew all three of y'all was not ass-niggas. So let me ask you, how the fuck did I get in there? Let me ask you a question. I'm the only mother that you're allowed to get in. This is the reason why you should have went that way. You are the only nigga. There's amazing ability to do all this shit. If you have the plugs and if you have the people you can go do what the label could do at that time. Yeah. So why you ain't did it? The label services. We doing it right now. Everything take time, bro. No, not these days. No, no, no, it do. It do. It take time. The music done? See, I'm like this. First of all, they had to complete the music. I'm like, put that shit out. I'm like, go. He went a whole lot. No, no, no. They had to complete the music. He know too much about the music. I'm a go boy. Let's go. So let me tell a story. Wait, let me ask you a question. I got it. I got it now. I got it now. My turn to speak. So just in speaking for Gilly, first they had to get it in their mind that they mac and cheese because first they were single with solo artists. And then he want to sell dope. He won't get locked up for selling dope. Let me finish. Let me finish. Sorry, but no, no, I can tell it. I got it, bro. I don't know what the fuck he talking about. Oh, yes, he does. This is uncle talking. He has never sold drugs a day in his life. One is getting. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. One is holding the case. He called a fucking case. They put it on him. I got it. I like that. Gilly, I'm going to come to your aid, bro, because I'm living that situation. Good, good, good, bro. Sorry. I'm living that situation. Break it down. And nigga don't want to put his name on some shit. These niggas is acting like nuts. Thank you. One of them might be straight one minute. And I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. And then you don't never know. And then, you know, you've already been through the bullshit with niggas in the past before. So you're like, well, look, man, I don't care what's here because I ain't going to be sitting fucking off no situation. To these niggas get it right. Right. To them get they master. So Matt, can I ask you a question? Has she's been fucking your glow up up? Nope. He ain't going to sell his brother out, you nut ass niggas. But listen, listen, what? Damn right. How much money? Hell no. How much money? How much money did you lose fucking with artists that didn't listen? I lost a lot of money. A lot of money. And you tell them to go fuck my money up because they're my sons. No, but I wasn't. Get the fuck out of here. No, you told me. Oh, no, you told me that they walked in the room together and they liked the looks. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was what up. He couldn't make it. You didn't say that. You said they plural. No, no, that's why I love talking. He we just took it. See, you weren't here in the whole story. Because listen, I'm here in the whole story. And I'm looking at them the whole time. Because she's want to be a bootleg fucking big niche. He wanted to be a bootleg big niche at one time. We had to say, OK, fuck it. Go ahead and do your little escapade. And we're going to fuck with you. We got to do a solo project. So he kept fucking up. Then he want to get his shit right. So then now they back a group. And so really, you know, it's the fucking artists that fuck shit up. It ain't me. You could take 75 to 100,000 and create your buzz and plant your seed to where labels might want to do some business with you. Absolutely. I mean, Percy, like draws were saying, my hundred probably going to be valued at five, six hundred. Because I'm going to get things done. I've got to pay for it. But what's priceless is knowing what to do and having a relationship. Absolutely. You don't know what to do and how to go about doing it. It ain't going to get done. Because it's not about who you know it's about. I'm not about what you know about who you know, how you know. Let me ask you something. Rest in peace, Nipsey. When you first linked with Nipsey, how did it go? Music, how did how did this come about? Which means like. Like the music thing. The music thing. Um, shoot, um, I was just coming off. I was just coming off the grind with shit, really. And I was really like in grind mode. So I had like all the connections. We both had to get in the trunks. Yeah, it was kind of like what WAC say about, you know, you really having a connection to everybody. So it was really like between me, WAC, because me and WAC was like one on one. So really kind of like to keep one hundred. It's funny how it's funny how, um, when people talk about Nipsey, I got a major push from Gain for Nipsey. Like a Gain was really instrumental. And Gain was that artist who helped put, give us that glow in LA. You know what I'm saying? It was Snoop did a song for us. Then Gain. And Gain till that weird ass story about he met Nip with a CD over, over in the- Check him on the LAX tool. Yeah. That can't be wrong. I listen to all these digga-cellies of weird ass stories. No, but Nip said that in the song on, on, on, on Bo and the Rap. He say that. He said, he slid up on him with that tape. First time they met, I got it on videotape. I got it on videotape. Nipsey's- It was, it was that. Now that might have happened, but I'm going to tell you the first time they ever met where Gain knew who Nipsey was, bro, was remember when we was doing the video and I brought, Gain was doing the video. Was it the Keisha Cole one? Well, I'm, I'm with that mansion. And I got it on videotape. Y'all the Keisha Cole. When I first brought in there, Gain, I didn't even know his name. I introduced Gain. He did the song. Gain said- That's what I- Me and Nipsey going to be, exactly. Me and Nipsey going to be the next Dr. Grain, Snoop and Gil, and that was his first game. Cause I had did Gain shoot you. That's what I put Bam on my ladder house, the ladder, um, I love an hip hop in the game. I put Bam, you know, Bam from Compton. I put her in the, in the, Bam, the one with a, what's the name, Scrappy? Yeah. Yeah, so Bam showed up and she just did a layoff of K-Slap. But no, it was a gang of work, though. It was a lot, it was a lot of work, man. And, um, really the- But that was different back in, though, bro. But I'm going to tell you too, like nothing. These kids today- These kids today don't, don't have a work ethic. Like that was a difference between Nick. Right. That made them stand out past all the rest of my homeboys. And the thing about Nick- Cause he wanted it more. And the thing about Nick, when I met you back then, you know, Nick wasn't knowing yet, I think y'all was in the midst of talking to Sony, trying to get him a deal over over at Sony. And the thing that always stood out about Nick was, his mentality was past gang banging at a young age. You feel what I'm saying? Like you would be sitting there talking to Nick, and Nick would talk about some shit that was like, you'll be like, damn, this nigga, you know, this nigga really got a head on his shoulders. You know what I'm saying? You know, he could really think for himself. You know what I'm saying? So that was one thing that I, that I really fuck with Nick about. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't, because a lot of niggas that I met from around here, they, you know, they stuck in that gang banging mentality. They can't see past that shit. But Nick always, since he was a young nigga, could see past that shit. But if you notice that, though, a lot of my homeboys like that, especially ones that I had with me. Cause it really wasn't like he was gonna, like I wanted a certain crew to move with me. Cause you need to be able to move with everybody. Cuzz, Bloods, and I wasn't really on that. I wasn't, not really wasn't. I wasn't on that period. It was a whole, since you gotta have a sense on it yourself. Cause I'ma be around dudes that you consider wants to be your enemies. And if that was your mentality, I didn't want you around me. So when I came home, I was instilling that. So it was, it was about- Because you was just fighting in the yard with niggas that wasn't Crips? I was riding for, exactly. I was just fighting in the yard with niggas who was just black. Black men. Cause in the rides you was talking about, it wasn't a world of situations. I was the only one on that yard that would have been affiliated with that. But going to the mindset when I came home, you gotta understand when I came home, my little homies who came to mess with me already knew where I was. They already knew I was dealing with shit. They already knew I was dealing with wack. They already knew I was running. How my mindset was, you know what I'm saying? It was, if I bring you in, I bring you in to be a certain way. In the rapping, respect to the certain way. OSBS is the same way. My group right now, WhatsApp, Mickey. These kids are all the same way. They know my mentality. So they take on that mentality. I ain't going nowhere gangbanging. I don't care if I'm over to say, because, blood, what's up, whatever. I don't give a fuck about none of that. So you ain't going to come to the door with me doing that. So when I came home, you got to remember before I even took Nip out, there was coaching and teaching going on. Because see that's what don't happen today. You don't get none of these youngsters with no cultural teaching. When I first started bringing them around job, we was already talking about what the video was going to be, what the songs will be. We're going to represent the hood, but we ain't going to diss nobody in none of these videos. You got to remember, I studied all the videos. I shot all the Nipsey first videos. You know what I'm saying? I shot them. You going to see directed shot by Big U and all them. Bullets and I know they ain't Crips and all that. All that shit we did, I did that. I went through every video and made sure nobody hood was crossed out. Nobody was being dissed. You know what I mean? But we all got subs, because that's how we talk. You know what I'm saying? And he was the first one. You got to remember this. Nipsey couldn't have never became Nipsey unless he was with his big on board. Because Niggas didn't want him to be... First they didn't want him to call himself Nipsey. First of all... That was like it's already a dude named Nipsey Russell. Change that. Listen, the doors wouldn't have opened. Because one thing you got to respect about it is at that time on the corporate side of it, and the mainstream artists, the Bloods was in full control. And then he was a prince. We was not going to open no doors. Out of pure respect, a big you, the doors open. What you mean the Bloods was in control? Break that down. The fuck you mean? All the labels, all the radio. All the Indians, all the big artists. Whether they were from Cali or they was from New Orleans or whether they were from the East Coast, it was a blood dominating system at the time. So when big you come through the door, it was a pure respect thing. Whatever he needed, we made it happen. You know what I'm saying? He shouldn't have changed, really, he can do it. No, he'll tell you. I'll argue with him about a lot of shit. Like we go back and forth, but ultimately, if he say, little bro, this what I need, we're going to do that. It's the same thing with me. I can go over there. Oh, he advised me against it. If I'm standing real far more than it, he going to say fucking here, right? So he kicked open a lot of doors. Man, Roller 60s is one of the most hated motherfucking gangs in Los Angeles. What, nobody looking to bend over backwards to help them niggas? But we do business, though. No, they do. No, this is real business because of the work they put in and the whole overall thing. It was, it was, we didn't, no disrespect. We didn't do that for 60s. We did that for big you from 60s. And let me explain real shit. Let me be clear. What he talking about is on the business side and on the music side. Because a lot of them of us can destroy you without ever even talking to you. A lot of us can say in the background, I don't fuck with you. Or we don't fuck with you. Or we don't do business with you. And then a lot of those don't open. You know what I mean? And see, it don't be like when niggas is here and like, and let me give you a name. Like, say Birdman at one point is the top motherfucker in a, in a, what is it? In the scope? Universal. Universal. If you're trying to go through the universal line and Birdman don't fuck with you and he the top nigga in the universal line, if you're a sub label in universal, it's eventually gonna go through his channel. And I'm gonna use him as an example because he a good friend of mine. He actually helped me too. You know what I'm saying? But now imagine if you're trying to go through E1, A1, a universal and you gotta go through Wackline. And you're gonna eventually gonna get through there because they don't say who making us money right now? Straight up. Who made us money? Right. So that's what he talking about. So at the time that I came in and I came in and I was coming in with Nipsey, a lot of the buildings we was going to was dominated and niggas was talking about send me the music. I'm talking about niggas was asking to re-hear the music who had, we had never got a music to. Right. Like we got a deal. Our first, do you know the first person they ever put Nipsey in the studio was Charlie Walk? I mean not on Charlie Walk, but what's the name of Warner Brothers? Who was at Warner Brothers at that time? That's the top dog that was over there. Ishaan was over there was Ishaan. No, the label that owned it on Warner Brothers. It was running Warner Brothers. I know you talking about. I'm gonna say Charlie Walk, but that ain't the one Charlie Walk was on. But anyway, it was him. He was the first one. And then it was a top dog, gave us the time. You know what I'm saying? Then it was game. He was still on the come up. It was whack. S.H.I.E.L. gave us studio time. Matter of fact, keep 100 S.H.I.E.L. gave us the whole month to for Nip to record and for the Sloths and Boys to record off of a tour. So when he's saying that, he's saying that it was a whole lot. It was a whole lot of love that was coming on because of the way I came home. The way I came home was inclusive to everybody. Like he said, bloods, everybody in my house. Sugar to come park his cars in my house. Just him and whack. Right there in my neighborhood. Listen, I argued with my wife. Blocked the whole fucking street. I was engaged. There's an argument with my wife. I will pass up my neighborhood. All kinds of neighborhoods. It'd be 12 midnight. I go to that mother house, open the door. She called and said, is he okay? And go to sleep. And be sleep straight up in the hard of the 60s. And go to sleep like so. Is it true that you were sugar night driver? No, I wasn't. You just used to heat the car up and like? No, I never that. We're not sugar. If you know sugar drivers on cars. He got no car heater. Not sugar car heater. Sugar drivers on cars. And at the time, and drawl to tell you this. I was one of, I was one of, hey, hey, hey. He know, he know. Hold on, hold on. I was one of very, very few, right? Actually probably one of the only ones on our side that when I come through the back door, I'm in a Benz. I had my own shit. Yeah, yeah. I had all my own shit. So what? I never wore a death row chain. I did business with the homie. I never was on a death row payroll. I've never called him. I wanted to get on the fucking death row. I've never, I don't fuck with that sign. Right? I called the homie shirt. That's it. Because there wasn't no sign. Do you still on the master's? No, never not. He'll on the master's one. He won't even have a fucking check everywhere I give him. I came at the wrong time when everything was falling. Hold up, you heard this? Yeah, E1 owns a whole catalog. That's why I got a system control over the catalog, because I'm in E1. So I want to do a project with that catalog. The boss around the corner. I got one hour going in and just go through the door. Two-pock shit and everything. Everybody, unreleased shit, everything. Charlie Wilson, stoop shit, shit that they never had. Dogfell. All that shit. Left eye when we changed her name to Nina. All that shit's in there. All the wheels is in there. So let me just say this before we get out of here. Can we be there for hours? No, we only been here for hour and 41 minutes, but we get out. But listen, and honestly, this is the longest episode we ever had, our episode was usually an hour, but you niggas is something entertaining to niggas. I just want to ask this question. I'm not a nigga, brother. Thank you, brother. I'm a nigga sometimes. Let me ask y'all this question. Matter of fact, I want to ask you a question. I want to ask you a question. Then we're going to end it off like this. Charlie. Who's the most prominent Crippa all the time? And why? You said, what is the primary? This ain't your question? Listen, you know, I got a factor in everybody, and I'm going to tell you why. The golden Crippa. No, listen, no. Listen, I'm going to say this. I'm going to get out again and big you. Let me tell you why. I'm not taking nothing from the ones that started it, the two keys and all of them, right? The Raymond Watts, I'm not taking nothing from them, right? But what I'm looking at, the longevity of it, the achievements of it, right? And where they stand today, right? Business wise, family wise. We got one of the brothers on death row, right? It's only so much you can do. I don't even know if he had children or I'm not in tune with him like that, right? It's only so much you can do since I'm death row. He did a lot of children's books and things of that nature. But when I sit and I, because I know him personally, right? I know his family. I know his achievements. I know what his goals was, what he wanted to do. Before he did them, I watched him birth. I watched him come to life. I watched him take hits. I watched him be attacked by the law. You know what I'm saying? I watched him bounce back from it, right? I watched him be attacked by his own people and still stay positive through it and survive and bounce back from it, right? When he could have really shied or lied or did some other shit, right? So I say that to say this. Business wise, bro, mid 50s is 50 something, right? He's still here free. He's been free maybe what, 16 years? 16. 16 years, right? He's still free, right? Now as he's free, he's totally legit and he's legal, right? Now only that, he's stepped into our community and in his section has reduced gang violence by like 40, 50, 60% in his area. Not only has he done that, he's opened his doors to who I know is his arch enemies, A-Trade gangsters and cats over here and said, hey, come see me and I'll show you how to get set up so you can have contracts with the city of Los Angeles so you can help reduce the gang violence in your section. These are things that he does that I don't do, right? I've seen him take kids and continuation schools and take time out his day and sit with these kids. I've seen him run around and harass this shit out of us. I need this money, man, to buy these helmets or these discs or these cleats, right? I've seen him do these things. So when it comes to achievements and when it comes to giving, crippling, right? A positive light of showing where you can come from and what you can stand for, right? And still be here, standing today, all his limbs and of saying my and legal are not on the run, being able to move around multiple businesses. When they come to that right now to date in 2020, I gotta get at the draws. I gotta get at them based upon the stats. To the biggest blood of all time. I wanna come from, I wanna see it from a Crip standpoint, from a blood standpoint. Of all time? Yes, like who's the number one blood of all time? He was a crazy one, cause we ain't done yet. Yeah, I'm gonna say. I'm talking up to now, up to this point. I'm gonna say the biggest blood of all time would say we have to be sugar. The one that's moving and moving the pentium and representing it would be wack. You know what I'm saying? I haven't achieved all the things that he's doing right now. I haven't achieved the things that sugar had achieved. Yeah. Well, no shit. Even with him sitting in prison, the one time he's doing, he has knocked down doors and I'm on a verge of doing it. I got a few things, indie life. I got a few things coming. That's my own that's gonna help our culture. And I didn't have a lot to compete with as far as like a black man. No, he didn't. I didn't have a lot. I mean, you would say that the most famous, to me, if you asked me that question, I would say the biggest Crip to me would probably be. Well, you know what? Let me correct you. Turkey or Raymond Washington. But the most famous would be Monster, I would think. Monster Code. Let me correct you now. You got Top Dog. Top Dog from Bonnie Hunters. Oh, my bad. We got Top Dog. Top Dog. Top Dog, right now when it comes to business wise, being where he from, he didn't walk to yards. You know, that he one of my mentors that I'm one of them dudes that keep it real, right? I could be in a driver seat, passing a back seat, pushing a car, whatever it gotta be. So I would say when it comes to this red flag right now, Top Dog is probably carrying it a torch. But not only is that he's covered as a mother. Coming, yeah, you know, coming behind Shug and he's not too far off from reaching those accomplishments that Shug. You don't think he there already? Well, you gotta understand it was a difference. So it was a different thing. Shitload of records, bro. Yeah, it was a different thing. But it's a different era of shitload. Yeah, it's a different day. But that is probably streaming the shitload. But you gotta remember, Top Dog's still here. But no, we're going to streaming though. No, no, no, look, Top Dog's still here. Other records and streaming. Top Dog's still here and standing. I can only imagine movies and other things coming to work. T.D. Eastfield's thriving. That flow has been folded. So his company's still thriving. So, I mean. Yeah, he has a period on his. Yeah, he has a period on his with Top Dog. But I'm going to say this though. Between Kendrick and what's the girl name? Cesar. Cesar. And then the schoolboy, come on, man. Jay-Var too. You can't leave Jay-Rock out of there. No, no, no. You talk about Dr. Jay. Number one, Snoop. Jay-Rock is moving some serious numbers. Dogpal. All of them dudes want platinum, platinum, platinum, multiple platinum's. Man, you gotta understand. Skewered everyone platinum? No, you gotta understand fucking 2-pox album. Double CD went fucking. Eight times platinum. Eight, nine times platinum. But there was no competition like that. That's amazing. But no, top. So if you went eight, that's equivalent to one doing 16. That's right, right now, like 39 dollars. So with us, my magic is coming out. They say January, March. It's a documentary we're doing. It's called Hip Hop Untold. And wait, and that's West Coast. Because you gotta remember. What's West Coast? You know, as far as Crips and Bloods will be talking about in the music game. Because Birdman got a flag in his backpack. Birdman the blood too? Yeah, he got a red flag in his backpack. Birdman got a flag, a red flag, in his backpack pocket. And he still standing each and every one of them. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Let me just say this. Real shit. Let me just say this. Birdman, listen. Can you hold on, man? I'm not sure what Birdman did. Let me talk. Let me talk. Wait, get it, man. Let me ask you a question, though, Gilly. You say, wallow on Birdman, Dick. But last time I could recall, you signed the contract. I didn't. He just offered me a deal. Birdman, you called me. Birdman said, wallow, he didn't want to do stuff with you. He respect me, said, wallow. You want to label, wallow? Let's not do that. I'm trying to get a label. Let's not do that. I'm ready to get a label. No, he fucking with you. Cast Money East. I got some shit I'm working with you now. Cast Money East. Artists, I'm telling y'all we signed a mac and cheese. Shit. Anyway, man, I got a documentary. Oh, it's documentary. Hey, what you mean? Documentary signing up for you. This shit ain't getting signed up for him. Documentary. Documentary. He's talking about his publishing. Shout out to Cash Money. No, no, no. Let me say this, though. Big you. Cash Money West. I got a documentary coming out, man. 100NT. You know what I'm saying? And what is next year? Top of the year. I ain't coming out. Until I get my part in it, it ain't coming out. Me. Trick, trick. Hastin' Jack. Yeah, we got the great Hastin' Jack. Y'all gonna love this one. We got Deb. Walker Flockerman. And we got Bimmy. Oh, this one you blocked me out of. No, you in that one. He blocked us the fuck out of it. It's the five with some weird shit. Weirdo shit. Hey, listen. This big bro. Like I told you, he's bipolar. Weirdo shit. Check it out. We comin' out. Hip hop untold. You know what I mean? It's gonna be phenomenal. Now I remember. On that fix. They spent over five million on this document. He did a deal with a negative that I didn't get along with. Man, come on, man. Cut. Hold on. Hold on a minute. You, hold up. I ain't said no negative. One thing. I ain't said no negative. Before we leave. You don't get along with. Hold up. Before we leave. Listen, man. We'll come out of whack mouth. Until you get it right with bro. I ain't fucking with you. We're not doing that. But listen. It's all right. Before we leave, both of y'all. One kids out here listen to it. They fascinated with the gang culture. What do you tell them? That they ain't in no gang. I will tell every gang member. No, they're not in a gang. Listen. They're not in a gang. Listen. Let me tell you ones that are. If you're not in the gang. You're 18, 21. You ain't got no felonies. I advise you so we can have our people on our side. Go to the military or go and listen to the police academy. Because I would much rather have you pulling me over. Because you understand me than them. Because it's not in the gang. Keep doing what you're doing. The dumbest thing I probably did in my life. I don't have no regrets because of who I am today. It's star game man. Because in the day it really wasn't no benefits outside of what we cleaned it up and made it to be. What about you? It ain't nothing there for you. I said the same damn thing. If you don't have no felonies and you don't like what the police is doing. Go join them. Pull us over. They're not going to let you join anyway because they got the system in place. Because the credit and all the other bullshit. But if you can, take over the system. Take over the system. And LA is so arbitrary to the truth. They gang banging on the police department. They got the Spanish out here. The Spanish out here is 18th street and white fence and all that. And they're going to pull you over and tell you. Chefs and LAPD. So I would tell the youngsters, if you looking at that and you want to be a part of something, go be a part of something that's going to be inclusive of you. Until we can get this shit right. Until we can see Bloods and Crips continue to do what myself and Wack have done and moved into an era of becoming pillars of our community and trying to do that. Instead of sitting around just trying to get high smoke and be about to bullshit. And we just want to end it off like this, right? To all the youth out there that's watching this episode, you got a top flight blood. You got a top flight Crip. You got a top flight man grown as you. A top flight who grew in the top flight men. And at one time they might have been beefing but they showing the world that shit ain't that serious no more. I mean, you know sometime a conversation and getting to know somebody and understand where they're coming from. You know eliminates 10, 20 years of turmoil and violence. Right. It's not needed. A lot of people the kids don't know if they really did the research on why they neighborhoods or why they sections is beefing. It be on some personal shit. This dude Rob this dude this dude fuck this dude's wife this dude did this shit. It be on some personal shit that had nothing to do with the neighborhood. He just so happened to be from that neighborhood. And it was in control. When they come to gangbanging and when they come to any kind of organizations not just Crips and Bloods. We tend to look at a black man. I was doing this experiment with his brother today. And what's funny to me is when it comes to gangs or anything. I don't even know I'm supposed to hate you until you tell me where you from. That's crazy. You know if you walk in the room fire dudes walk in the room right now. I got to ask you where you from before if I know I can like you. Right. You know me so if I don't know you I got to look for something. Right. That tell you right there where you right. That's worse than segregation. That's worse than the white folks looking at us and say oh he's this we can't we don't like him. Right. We looking at each other and it's cool. But soon as he said he from this section is fuck you your mama everything kill him. And that's that's that's the that's we got to stop hating us. We got to get paid. Leave that. That's real shit. Well listen man. We appreciate you the big homie big you fucking big homie whack 100 coming out you know just giving up the game to the youth man and just you know giving us an insight on the whole blood the whole Crip and the whole how you guys have grown from you know young gangbangers in the you know grown as businessmen out here really making shit happen on a whole different level. So we salute y'all man. We salute everybody for tuning in each and every week making us the number one music podcast in the fucking country. Each and every week man. Barstool Sports dot com. Get your merch. Get your merch. Get your merch. Another name of Gilly the King. I'm Wild'Low 267 Tony the Closer Joe Budden killer. Whack 100. Yo come on. Don't do that man. Why you throw Joe up there. Man listen listen. I'm riding with the homie on now. No but damn me we ain't beef with Joe man. I don't know. You just talked all this positive shit man. And you going to say that about you is not positive he be attacking our youth. You know what he do. I'm going to stand down. I'm just saying till till Gilly saying it ain't on this. No it ain't on. It ain't on. Shout out to Joe man and he's just like that. Right!