 A big show, one up in Adams, no more poop talk, I promise. But we do have Mark Ingram stopping by. He'll talk staying competitive in the NFC South. Hamilton and I do trade deadline grades. The only way we know how in New York City fashion and insert B peer, it's like I called for it. And Shams comes on the show to get me set for the Knicks game I'm going to tonight. I literally cannot name a single player like is Patrick Ewing still out there doing his thing? Is Lynn Sanity still a vibe? No, Shams, help! Lynn Sanity, what a time to be alive. Welcome to Up in Adams. I'm in New York, away from our LA studio. We'll be back there next week. Hamilton is here, Mark Ingram. Like I said, Shams will stop by. I'm going to the Knicks game tonight. Very excited. Heather Real in the Yorkie trip through the whole Broadway thing. Drank my body weight in espresso martinis last evening. It's a great day. We want to hear from you what you thought about this epic record setting trade deadline day. Hit us up at Up in Adams show right now. 12 players, check this out. Unbelievable, 12 players got moved yesterday afternoon most notably, we saw pass rusher Bradley Chubb head to Miami. TJ Hawkinson moved within the division. Doesn't happen every day. He goes to Minnesota and the big surprise of the day, Calvin Ridley, remember him? Yup, he moves from Atlanta to Jacksonville. We are grading a bunch of those big deals after the commercial break, but some of the more notable moves of the day were the ones that were not made. So let me put this down so I don't throw it. Packers, I'm talking to you. I feel like I do this every day on the show. I'm talking down the barrel of a camera, lens to Green Bay, to Goody, to whatever. Why? Why do you refuse to do anything significant to help out Aaron Rodgers? I am not even saying go full FM picks mode, but maybe go F a bunch or a good dealer, a substantial amount of those picks mode for your aging back to back MVP. Time is a ticket, it's running out, you know it, we know it. What is the secret here? It has been three years. It's hard to not support your quarterback in a way. It's almost like you're trying to do it and it's like an accomplishment that maybe deserves some credit because it doesn't seem like it's an easy thing to neglect helping your quarterback. Is this a stubborn thing, is my question. Is this like a football acumen thing? I would be surprised if that's the case. This is Green Bay, the most storied franchise in the NFL. You had a chance to make up for all of this yesterday and you continue to do nothing. So during this show, it's only an hour long, I'm gonna keep asking, my good friend Mark Voto who's hanging out with me in New York, has OBJ signed yet? Has OBJ signed to Green Bay? It's gonna happen. I'm gonna ask you every two minutes on this show because that's the only way that I can take back anything or any of the venom I feel for this team. But I don't blame Packers fans for freaking out but I also was not surprised that they didn't make a move. I was a bit surprised about the rest of the division adding insult to injury, making you look bad, Green Bay, if you look at all the receivers moved over the past few weeks as we take a look here, let's do it. You know, you've got Kandaris, Tony Chase Claypool, TJ Hockinson, I mean, it's a lot of NFC North action going on, the Bears. What the hell's happening? The Bears get aggressive and land support for Justin Fields. I didn't see that coming. Second rounder for Chase Claypool, the Vikings, they go all in. What a move, couldn't love it more. I'm gonna grade that an A plus in the next segment. They get TJ Hockinson. Packers have the 26th ranked offense overall, bottom 10 pass offense. I don't even know what to say about this. It's insane. 2020, I mean, they draft Jordan Love over T. Higgins. Everybody talked about that. They always go defense over adding people for our guy, Aaron Rodgers. And they weren't aggressive enough to move up a few spots. You tell me that Packers couldn't have Justin Jefferson who smokes everybody and any thing that he has, any game in the division, out the division. You could have had CD Land too. In 2021, let's keep going here. The Packers go DB. They took Eric Stokes in the first round. 2022, the Packers straight away Devonte Adams. They used both first rounders to take defensive players. When they could have made a deal for, oh, I don't know, a game-changing difference maker that might win a Super Bowl for the Eagles and AJ Brown. Or I don't know, a team that took a shot like Miami, taking another shot yesterday, of course, but the big off-season move bringing an entire re-kill. Am I missing somebody? Amari Cooper? There's another one. The Browns got him. What are they, fifth rounder? For a fifth rounder, they got his services. So to me, it's a little bananas. And I don't quite understand why it's happening. And Hamilton this year, that's who I keep looking over because I just don't get it. I feel like it's like a stubbornness thing on Goody's. Not that he hates Aaron Rodgers, but it's like everyone's telling him to do some things. So he's like, I'm not doing it, even though it's for the best of the team. Yeah, I feel like it almost has to be at this point. As you said, three years of this now. And we've gotten enough of a sample size this season. We're halfway through the year, pretty much. And this offense isn't working. As you said, the 26 ranked offense in the league. The run game's gotten going, but it hasn't even seemed like they've made positive steps in that passing game. It's still a slog to get through the game. We saw it again on Sunday night. I just don't know what the answer is here. Unless it is OBJ. Am I crazy to think that that could be the move? No, I think it almost has to be at this point. It's the only rational explanation for why they wouldn't have made a trade. Before you joined our show, I was saying to guys like Brandon Marshall, people who come on at Chris Collinsworth, I think too, like that's gonna be the move. It's the best football fit. It's gonna happen. But I mean, will OBJ fit well there? Sure, right? Like it's gonna be good. Will he wanna go to Green Bay and live in Green Bay? That I don't know, but it wouldn't be that dissimilar than going to Buffalo. Like if there's rumors, of course, that he'll sign with the Giants. So it's a very crazy, unless they know something that we don't, he's gonna have tons of bidders for his services. And I don't know that they're never aggressive when it comes to getting him options. So why would they be aggressive for OBJ now? That's a good point. But yeah, but it is only half a season. So the commitment on their standpoint wouldn't be as much. The commitment on OBJ's standpoint as far as living in Green Bay, only half a year. It's not like he's stuck there for a really long period of time. And you get to play with one of the best quarterbacks that's ever played the game. It would make a lot of sense to me. You also just wonder how long is it gonna, would it take him to get acclimated coming off of that knee surgery? Learning a new playbook, things like that. But I think with him and Aaron Rodgers, I think they can get on the same page pretty quickly. I did like hearing we had Victor Cruz in here, obviously a good friend of the former teammates, all of that. And Victor's saying, what is he doing right now? I bet he's at the gym. Like he would have bet money on the fact that he's working on his body. That's the kind of guy he is. So I'm not worried about him not being 100% or not being able to acclimate. I'm worried that they're not gonna make the move, especially when there's pressure here in our backyard. You hear all the beeping going on? Those are the mad giants fans making it known because there's another head scratcher. And that's what we do here on Up In Adams. We break poop news and we also talk to the fan bases that are disgruntled the day after the trade deadline. And I would say the giants are right up there with the Packers because they decided to stand pat and do nothing. Almost everybody, myself included. Okay, so they get rid of Kaderious Tony and that's some sort of precursor, right? That's the aperitif to something else happened. But evidently not. And they also did not move Kenny Galladay. And sure, that might be part of the reason why they didn't sort of feel the need to add because he might be coming back as we see Joe Shane was talking about it, right? Didn't he say that he hopes to get him back after this week's buy? So that's huge. And if he can return, though I don't have faith in it, to being a thousand yard receiver that we have seen him be, maybe that's the feeling there with Shane and company and Davele, who I do a faith in like that. They have this Kenny, they've got the second rounder, Wanda Robinson, they have Darius Layton and that's sort of enough for the G-Men to get it going. But you grew up a Giants fan. This is a bummer to see they didn't make a move. Yeah, I think a lot of fans are frustrated because they have gotten off just at a good start. And I don't think there is a lot of faith in the fan base from Kenny Galladay. Shane did leave the door open and this is the possibility of OBJ coming back to New York. What did he say? Did he just say like? He said he's open to the idea. He was asked about it. It sounded like, you know, for him to say that for a general manager to show that, maybe tip his hand a little bit, I feel like there has to be something there. But I think the reason they didn't make a move and I think this is something Giants fans have to keep in mind is that this year wasn't really supposed to be playing out this way. They're not supposed to be six and two right now. I think everybody kind of signed up. This is a three year plan really to turn this organization around because of some of the cap issues they had, things like that. And I don't look at this team as being a player away from going to a Super Bowl, winning a Super Bowl. So I like the fact that Joe Shane and Brian Dable are willing to be a little patient here, continue building this team. Interesting. Yeah, like, because I think it's about, it's not necessarily about this year. I think they're gonna make the playoffs and that's gonna be a really successful year to build off of. They're playing long ball. They're not freaking, they're not one player away from making, I mean, but they kind of are. Yeah, because they're still digging out. But it's been so long since it's been exciting. Just go make a move. I know, and I think that's what's frustrating for fans, but I think you don't wanna sacrifice the long-term plan to do something short-sighted right now because, again, I just, I don't see it as a team that's gonna be winning a Super Bowl this year with what they have and I don't think they're that one player away. So I like the fact that they're sticking with the plan and they're gonna continue to build this team because they're still digging themselves out of some of those cap issues too. And you don't wanna put yourself in a worse situation with that going forward as well by getting a guy like a Brandon Cooks, let's say. Are you mad for Mark Voto born and raised in New York? You didn't get somebody to eat your math? Do you do? Yes. Well, all right, we'll see. So I'm going on with Carton later today. Big New York sports show. I'm going out with him and Evan Roberts who I know who visited us on Good Morning Football and I'm excited to hear their takes. I wonder what they would make of your Polyana optimism patients take. I'm gonna guess they're gonna not like that. I might try to sell that as my own and see if they take the bait. So excited to hang out with those guys and talk to New York. Honestly, the day after the Trey deadline, I did not think we'd be talking about Trey Lance but we're gonna work him into this conversation because if we're looking at what happened with the Dolphins they not only land a pass rusher in Bradley Chubb that move completed Miami's hall as a result of the Trey Lance trade. So this is a really cool fan dual graphic that I loved seeing. So we're using it on our show, great job by them. The Dolphins got three picks, let me explain. Three picks is a result of that Lance trade. They used them to take Jaylen Waddle then they trade for Tyree Kill and now trade for Bradley Chubb. So I'd say that's a pretty masterful job and we're gonna give a little love to general manager Chris Greer because that's amazing and I must say Miami has set up beautifully to make a push for the playoffs and maybe not only that but honestly to contend for a Super Bowl and I'm not really counting out this year for that but I'm definitely not counting it out in seasons to come. Yeah and I think Chris Greer has gotten criticized over the years at times and I think this was just a brilliant long-term play to turn that number three overall pick that they end up sending to San Francisco into three star players and I think Bradley Chubb is in addition that is really gonna help out this defense. They've had some issues defensively, they hadn't been able to generate a consistent pass rush. Now they have a real top tier edge presence. How do you, let's talk Ardell really quick and tweet us where he should go, add up an Adam show. He must love that he's now bell of the ball and he kind of played it perfectly and now trade deadlines over and there's a ton of receiver needing teams that are going to compete. Is there a fit that sticks out to you or does your gut tell you anything or like your football acumen does it tell you where you might go? I really think the Packers is the most natural fit. I really do. I think that's where he's most needed. I think that's where he could have the biggest impact and put up the biggest numbers as well to try to earn a contract going forward because I think while the Giants would be really fun to see, they're still going to be a run first team. I think that's still going to be their identity this year with how they're built. I think the opportunities are going to be there more for him to showcase himself. You want to talk about this a lot when we try to think of landing spots for like like Sean Payton, right? So friend of the show Sean Payton, where's he going? What's important to him, right? Control of everything, the most control he can have over what's going on in the building and you know, quarterback, he actually says it's not as important as quarterback because you can find your own, you can make it work. So for Odell, it's just interesting to think about what's important to him. And even more interesting, he likes being talked about, he likes how the mystique, but he also isn't, you know, he's got plenty of venues, myself included, Odell, I've talked to you. Brandon Marshall's hitting him up. Everyone, you know, I imagine Vaughn Miller on his podcast. You think Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey are asking him to come on the show? He's getting hit up from every angle from these player podcasts. Come talk to us, tell us maybe what intrigues you, what your landing spot is. Increase maybe your leverage, your bankroll, your whatever the bag of money that you might secure. He's not doing any of it and that's fascinating to me. Yeah, and I think that says how committed he is to his football career. And I think going to a place like Green Bay, like, can you imagine the storyline if he goes there and helps Aaron Rodgers resurrect this team and they go on and take the Packers to the Super Bowl? They go on this amazing run. When he comes back to the Giants and they go on some amazing run, and you're back in New York. That too. I don't know, do you really want like, is he gonna get rid of that tattoo of New York on his back and do like a Lambo field with a bunch of cheeseheads on top of it? I just don't see it happening. All right, coming up, we're gonna do trade deadline grades. Look at everyone's, everyone's like a laugh track in the background. Everyone's forced to laugh, it's so awful. All right, New York style twist, Mark Ingram is on the way. This Justin Forbes is reporting as well as everyone in the sports world. The Dan Snyder, Antonia Snyder have hired Bank of America to sell the Washington Commanders. It's a bit shocking. It should happen. It's a good thing that it's happening. It's a bit shocking that it's happening because he has been so adamant through the years about selling the team and not wanting to do it, but the disfunct, it just stinks. So it's a good move and it'll be interesting to see who the bidders are and what they do with the team, which I think is long overdue for a bit of a makeover. I don't know if that means team colors. I don't know if that means changing the name back to the Washington football team, which everybody really liked, but to sort of clean it up and make it pretty again. So as we move forward here, it's sort of a bit shocking news. We're not gonna really get into it, but I think overall a great move for the national football league that I love so dearly. All right, trade deadline was yesterday at 4 p.m. Eastern, some teams made moves and some teams like the Giants and the Packers did not, but we're gonna do some trade grades. I hated school, so I didn't want to do ABCD or F. I was very like B plus, B minus, C plus situational student. I was always at the buzzer, extra credit. Like how do I not fail your class? Can I wash your car, teacher? What do I need to do? We're gonna do it in New York City style as we're here this week, Hamilton and I, so we're going to grade things. I will take the team perspective. Hamilton will grade from the player perspective on all of these, and instead of using those boring letters, we are going to use New York positives or New York negatives about being in this city if we don't like the deal. Okay, so I'm gonna start with the Vikings and how they landed T.J. Hawkins in this tight end who's playing out of his mind of late and a couple of fourth round picks from the Lions all in exchange for a second and third rounder. Okay, tweet us it up and out of show. To me, this is a great thing. It's about as close to an A plus as you can get yesterday. It's like when you catch, you need to get on the sixth train. You gotta catch the Metro North at Grand Central and you catch the Express and you're going down the stairs and the door's open and you get out and everything. The car is empty. It's one of the new freshly cleaned cars. So kind of smells like bleach, but it's better than anything else. You could possibly imagine that train car smelling like and you hit the express because from Minnesota, Hawkinson having a career year posting career highs in yards per game, yards per catch. You've got Irv Smith Jr. who want to show up and he's banged up. He can't stay on the field and they haven't really gotten much production out of that spot. So good luck everyone, trying to double Justin Jefferson now. What a move for this fan base. And for Lions fans, sending your former top 10 picks to a division arrival, it has to feel, you know, not great. Yeah. I think, yeah. I think that's a rough one. Sending a guy in the division that was a top 10 pick is... Yeah. It's tough for the fan base to swallow. It's like when you're, we talk about this a lot. It's like when you're walking down the sidewalk in New York, say to you guys, my wonderful crew here in New York and you get that like something falls on you, like some sort of liquid. Mystery liquid? Yeah. And you're like, oh God, I hope that was from an air conditioner. Like please God, let that be some ooze from an air conditioner because it really could be anything. And Lions fans, I feel you. Yeah. And on Hawkinson's side of things, it's like catching that express, but it's in the middle of July, the AC isn't working. And you're like in between two sweaty guys. Like it's just, you know, you're getting to your... Like their arm picks, they're holding that thing and you're like right here. Yeah. You hope it doesn't stop short. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're getting to your destination, the way that you wanted it, which for Hawkinson is the playoffs. Yes. And I think the Vikings are destined to be there. And it pays off in the end because of that, but it's just not going to be the most comfortable ride. I think because of Jefferson, because of some of the ups and downs we see with cousins sometimes, it may not be week to week like the type of production that Hawkinson is going to want to put up, but obviously the end result is going to be better. He's going to get to the playoffs, but I think like there were situations that could have been better for Hawkinson, like a Green Bay, like a Tennessee, where I feel like he could have been a more featured option. But talk to me about a Kirk Cousins to a tight end situation. Historically loves to enter into that position. Yeah, he's had some good rapport with Kyle Rudolph, but I just don't think, historically, yeah. But he... Even before when he was with the command, you know, you don't think so, you don't think he's going to get that? Yeah, who would Justin Jefferson like and feel in? It's, you know, there's... It's nice to be a Vikingson. They're going to be games where he goes off. It's just like the Kevin O'Con, that they just, they're going all in. Oh yeah. If you're the Packers, you're like, what are you doing? Yeah. If you're the Bears fans, you are juiced this morning for any sign of life, like any shot in the arm. That's what you love about it. All right, let's talk about, you know, when I think Bradley Chubb, I think when he was drafted, he had those like planet shoes. Like he had the whole like, not like Astral World, but it was all like he was very into the planet. He was obsessed with NASA. He was obsessed with NASA. Well, he went from the Broncos to the Dolphins or from the sky to the sea to swim with those Dolphins for a first rounder, a fourth rounder, and Chase Edmunds catching strays out here in the street, unbelievable. Miami, to me, to put into New York terms to grade this thing, getting Bradley Chubb is like going to a New York classic institution, Peter Lugers, because it's not like you want to go, but it takes a lot to get there. You got to get all the way to Brooklyn. You got to cross that Williamsburg Bridge somehow. It's cash only, which is annoying. You got to get cash to go there. It's expensive. And everybody's so obsessed with it that you want to not like it. Like you want to be like, this is not going to be as good as advertised or whatever. But at the end you're like, damn, that was a great steak. Look, that bacon is not that I would eat that, but that's so delicious. It was totally worth it. And to me, that's just like giving up a first rounder for Bradley Chubb and what that will be. You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely. I love this trade for the Dolphins. Really? And I love it for Bradley Chubb too. To me, for him personally, it's like making a trip to the Botanical Gardens. You know, sometimes you just need to- I never bet. Have you? Of course. I love going there. Kelly and I go all the time. I really love that. That's cute. Yeah, because sometimes you just need to change your scenery. And I think that's what this is for him. You get out of Denver, a weird situation this year there. You go to Miami where you're going to get a chance to play in the playoffs, I think, with the way that this roster is constructed right now. Well, look at you and you ask, now, when you go do birds, somehow try to nest in your hair. No, I don't know what this weird thing is with you and birds, but that doesn't happen. What about your beard? I'm just worried about you. Out in that Botanical Garden wildlife situation, somebody might mistake it as a place to live on your face. No, that does not happen. You like the fit. I love the fit and I love, and I also love like with the Botanical Garden. Sometimes you can spend, you know, you can spend an hour there if you want to. It's not a long-term commitment. Just like him, he's a pending free agent. If he doesn't like it there, he can move on pretty quickly. But if he does like it there, he can stay a while. Who here has been to the Botanical Gardens the last 10 years? Oh, wow. There we go. It's right next to Arthur Abbe. You can go over to Casa de la Mozzarella, grab a nice sandwich, get some ravioli up or goddess. It's great. All right, I like it. Okay, so we are in on the Bradley challenge. There's no, there's no negative here, right? No negative. Yeah, no negative. On either side. We're in on it. All right, let's go to the, this was the surprise, right? The Jags land Calvin Ridley and there's conditional picks in 2023 and 2024. And for Jacksonville, this is like when you come to New York City and you get your slice of Joe's pizza. You can't make a New York trip without it. It's the best New York slice in the business and you can't, it's just like a football world. You can't build around your young quarterback without getting him a legit number one ride receiver. This is it, it's a perfect match. It hits every time. Now it might be a bit of a wait, like just like, you know, it has been the six months that I've had to wait to get Joe since I haven't been here, but it has been going so well for them with this turnaround with what's going on with the Jags and it's great to get Trevor Lawrence, a guy that we know, we know can put up 1,400 yards in this business. Yeah, I love it. And again, it's not like the Jaguar, I think the Jaguars kind of know what the season's gonna be so they can be patient and they have the luxury of waiting for them. Are you still a big Jags fan? I think, I do love the Jags, the Jacksonville fans are the best. I feel like you're kind of falling off of the Jags. I mean, I have to love everybody. I love all these teams but the Jags have a very special place in my heart and I'm still very much on watch. I weirdly have like deja vu from something talking Jags with you like good morning football or something. I'm like, Yanik and Gakwe just went into my head. What a throwback that is. I saw him when I was in Indianapolis, not long ago. Next, oh God. Oh, but I didn't get, yeah. Yeah, but what do you want to do? But yeah, for Calvin Ridley, I look at it like, you know, you're running late, you end up missing your Uber, you get dinged on your rating, it feels like it's a disaster. Hipped by a puddle. Yeah. Running in a cab. Then you walk outside, you hail the cab and you get inside and you realize the driver's Ben Bailey. You're in cash cab and you know. I love cash cab. Who doesn't love cash cab? It's a great surprise. We didn't really see this coming. And you know, you still have to earn your way into it being something positive. You know, it's not like it's a gimmie. You still gotta get some of the questions, right? And earn it. That's the wrong one. But yeah, if he's able to do that, I think it's a great opportunity and Jackson will be able to get to play with a talented young quarterback. Well done. I did not see that coming. I did not see the cash cab coming here on the show. Up and Atom show with your draft grades using New York or just whatever city you're in as a grading system. The city I'm from is Chicago and they dealt a second round pick to land Chase Claypool from the Steelers. Take that Green Bay, shots fired. Now for the Bears, I think this is like you're going out to get some coffee, you're hungover, maybe you're not. I don't know. And then you randomly in New York run into like a Jay-Z or a Sarah Jessica Parker. Like a New York City icon, a classic New York encounter. You didn't expect it to happen. You're going about your business, you're arguing with your boyfriend on the phone, but it ends up making your day. And you see them and you're like, that's cool. I know you don't even bother them, but you know what I'm saying? You know, everything told us the Bears were going to be the biggest sellers at the trade deadline. And it made sense for them to be. And instead, hey Poles, you go and make an aggressive move to land an awesome target which is going to inspire confidence with that fan base in that locker room and especially with their young quarterback. Yeah. And I think it's got to be encouraging as a Bears fan because it's not just like we're gutting the team just for assets. You get a good young player that can be a foundational piece to this team going forward. So. Do you have a weird New York encounter? Or like a very New York encounter. I remember being like 10 or 11 and like seeing Jerry Orback. And I thought that was so cool. I used to love watching Juan order with my parents. Like, this is awesome. Yeah, the late great. The late great. That's amazing. So you remember seeing that where you're like, dun dun. Oh yeah. Dun dun dun. Dun dun dun. What about you? I remember I moved, yeah. I moved to New York 12 years ago, 11 years ago now and I was walking home from somewhere. I was very late and I was early in the morning. It was like five or six in the morning and I was the only one walking down Broadway. Southern Broadway, like by NYU. And I was walking. There's no one on the street. And I see someone walking towards me and I'm trying to walk to the subway and he's like two blocks down. It's just me and him, like wasteland. I know it's like five in the morning. I'm like a Sunday morning. And he walks closer and closer. So you're just like staring at this person and like passes me, Spike Lee just passes me. And we walk and he walked. And I just, and I had no one to tell because there was no one around. And I was like that. And I just thought, and I remember I kept walking and it was like the week I had moved to New York because that's in my club or something. And I just thought to myself, like that's my New York moment. Like what's cooler than that, right? Yeah, yeah. Weekend to get Spike Lee. Weekend, yeah. It was really, really wild. I've never seen like a Jay-Z or a Sarah Jessica Parker or anybody. Never done that. But who knows what we'll see at the next game tonight. That's true. You know Spike's gonna be there. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm sure he'll remember me. I was in bad shape that morning. All right, last but not least, are we going to break now? Connor or can we do this last one? Should we go to break? Okay, the bills, we have to talk about this. So the bills do this sneaky move. It's almost like a house money luxury VIP move. They land nine hinds who we love. From the call, it's an exchange for Zach Moss and a sixth round pick. This one is personal. Hamilton and I have been friends for a long time. There was once a snowstorm in New York City and it was also Hamilton's birthday. So for this it's like doing something excessive. Like you don't need to do it. You're not trying to like buy milk because you need cereal. You're doing something almost just gluttonous. Yeah. And it was Hamilton's birthday during the snowstorm and we went to Nobu and spent a ridiculous amount of money. Do you remember that? Yeah. Ridiculous amount of money. Just Hamilton and I, I didn't have money to spend like this. I don't know what I was doing. And then we went, I believed to the Mandarin Oriental across the street and we were drinking $70 drinks out of like beakers. Yeah, it got a little fuzzy at that point. But yeah, there was like smoke coming out of them and all sorts of things going on. And it was completely excessive and we, and then we had to stay at some like awful hotel on the west side. And it was the whole crew stayed at this hotel. But it was, you know, did you need it? No, but was it awesome? And did it make the experience completely better? Of course. The bills didn't need Nyeen, but he's gonna make it better. Yeah, he definitely is. I love the fit there. And I love it for him. For him, it's like you're, you're going to like the corner pizza spot. You're standing online and your friend calls you to come over to carbon and he's got a table for you. You know, the culture, I feel like they're a little bit of a sinking ship right now. He gets to go to one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL and play with Josh Allen. I'm really happy for him. We love him. As long as, I believe that night ended with you, you making the poor decision to eat sea scallops at about one in the morning at Mareya and climbing the circle. Do you remember that? Yeah, I remember. I'm not smart. I remember having my hoodie on in the background of GMF me the whole time. You're not smart. No, you wanted Alvin Camara to go to Buffalo. It didn't happen. I know one person who's happier than me about that. That is Mark Ingram, who is joining us after this Mark Ingram on the show. We'll talk, listen, they couldn't have traded him because the Saints are making the playoffs. You heard me, Ingram. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ready for war. I'm destined for greatness. That's where to Muhammad Ali. I'm up on the scene. I told you I'm up on the scene. Yeah, I'm ready for war. I'm ready for war tonight. I'm ready to set it a score. Set it a score tonight. Love that visor. Love that player joining us now. Someone who is more than just a guest. He is downright family visiting with us every week unless he's flying across the pond or across the country in the late 90s. He's a Heisman trophy winner in his 12th NFL season. Mr. Mark Ingram, how are you? It's okay. How are you doing? I'm doing great. Thank you. You're welcome. I know you're doing great. And I'm sorry to hear about your injury. It was against the Raiders last week and lost to celebrate in that one, pulling out a win. But tell us what happened on that play and how you're feeling. Well, basically I just caught a pass and I turned the field and D.B. He went low on me and kind of jarred my knee a little bit. Tried to get back in the game. I did a few more plays and it just didn't feel right. Got the MRI. Thankful that it's nothing that needs surgery or nothing that'll put me out for the season. I'll be back in a few weeks. Just need to heal up, need to do some rehab and I'll be back in a few weeks. So that's a blessing. Obviously frustrated that I have to miss some time, especially got the Ravens coming in town, had that circle for a while. So that's the kind of thing that I won't be able to play that game. But I'm just thankful that it's nothing serious and that I'll be able to heal up, rehab up and be back in a few weeks. Will you be on the sideline? I love that you're so optimistic by the way. It's incredible that you find positive in that because it could have been so much worse. Will you be on the sideline because you could definitely get like an air horn or something and just start talking trash to everybody on the Ravens. I'd like to see that. Yeah, I don't see how they can not let me be on the sideline. So I'm gonna make my way out there for sure. Don't get one of these though. Don't get one of these though. No, no, no, no, no, no. I ain't gonna be in the mix too much but I'm gonna let them know that. I'm gonna let them know how I'm feeling though. And don't pull that tomma, don't put that foot out on that field. Don't trip anybody while you're on the sideline. Listen, there's a little. One more break on the sideline, just go to the sideline. You would. I would love to see that. I'm glad to hear that you're going to be okay and there'll be a positive stuff to talk about because I'm happy and I know you are. The Saints get a huge win. It's 24-zip, a shout out over those Raiders and your boy Josh Jacobs. So what clicked for this team? Man, that's Saints football and that's the type of ball we play when we don't have self-inflicted wounds, don't allow big plays and really don't shoot ourselves in the foot. And that's the type of football we play. We're dominant on offense, consistent on offense, move the chains, didn't turn the football over and on defense you stop the run, don't allow any explosive plays and that's Saints football. And when we play the way that we're supposed to play that's the kind of result we get. So gotta keep building from that, gotta keep getting better from that. Obviously got a great team coming in on Monday, the Ravens, so gotta continue that momentum moving forward. I like what you're saying, but are you sure this isn't the reason y'all beat the Raiders? Welcome, ball team. New Orleans Saints, you know what I mean. We gotta represent the city up in here. We're doing everything and my shit, it's here. Gotta go hard, I gotta go in and all we gotta do is get a f***ing head. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. I hope you got that, we in here. Clark. Hey, that boy was snapping, man. He was ripping, you gotta put that boy in the booth. J.Boo Winston in the booth. Rap game, Saudi, he got the rap game like now. Hey. Is that something he does normally? Hey, he went in the locker room too and he dropped some bars too. He was dropping bars in the locker room. I missed that one, but he dropped a whole another, he dropped a whole another track in the locker room. That boy was going crazy. That's the energy we need, you know, that's the vibes we have. We needed to get the swag back. I think I got my swag back. I think that that contributed to the win and of course nothing against Andy Dahl and who played very well last week. But obviously there's something that goes on when James is in that locker room, it's electric. When will we see him back under center mark? Hey, it's, we got two good guys, man. And we all love James and he's a great player, great leader. He's our guy, man, you know what I mean? But Andy's been playing well. You know, the team made the decision that they made, you know what I mean? So we just support both our guys and we wish the best for both of our guys. I love both of them, man. And you know, James is our guy for sure. He brings the energy, he brings the leadership but he doesn't change regardless. So I admire that about him. I appreciate that about him. You know I'm rooting for James. So we all are rooting for James, but you know, rooting for Andy too. I love them both, man. Those both my QBs. You're the best teammate ever and you're on the great team that's competitive. You're one game back of the Falcons in the NFC South and we talked a lot last week about are you more frustrated or are you more optimistic? And you sort of said that you were both. What did this win do for the team as far as remaining competitive in the division? What's the mentality? We know we're essentially a half game out. You know, we beat the Falcons and we control our own destiny. We have to see all those teams one more time and but it's really one week at a time. So you know, we're in a division where we're one game back or a half game back however you want to put it. And we got a big game coming in Monday night against a great team. So we got to keep handling our business. We handle our business. We play our style of football. We prepare the way we know how to play. We prepare the way we know how to prepare and everything else to handle itself. So we got to keep winning our games and got to keep getting better. Got to keep improving. We'll see the Falcons. We'll see the Bucks. We'll see the Panthers. We'll see all of them at some point. So we just got to keep getting better, keep improving and doing what we need to do week in and week out. I'm really still liking this idea of you being like Dennis the men is out there and just messing with our ball like pranking them, putting like whoopee cushions on their sideline just to mess with them for this game. Like I think you have a role in what the outcome of that game Monday night. Yeah. I just got to find out where they stay now. I just got to find out. I can do it. Mark Ingram is pushing the fire alarm at the team hotel like Harbaugh's standing outside in his robe with a sleep mask. I like where this is headed. Yeah. We're gonna have the band outside the hotel playing all night. Nobody gets to sleep like. It's good. It's good. I want to talk about Alvin Camero because he's also a huge part of that win last week in 158 skirmish yards. He had three touchdowns. I know you're happy about that. And I'm happy the trade deadline came and went because there were some rumors going on about Alvin. So what has he been like and what has it been like in the locker room and in the running back room with all those trade rumors leading up to this? Man, we haven't really been paying too much attention to it. You know, I was a great player, man. And I think he's done a great job this year stepping into a leadership role. You know, with the captain on his chest, you know, I've seen him come in from a pup. So to see that transition and that growth being from a rookie to now being a captain and being a leader and being, you know, as productive as he is on the team, I'm just super proud of him and excited for him. He'll continue to get better. He'll continue to thrive more in that leadership role. And we always say that, you know, the team runs through us. The identity of the team runs through us. We're the energy. We're kind of like the spark plug of the team. So for, you know, him to go out there and have a big game and the run game, have a huge game in the passing game, I think that little fire on our team and that energy kind of resonates through the whole team. So, you know, we weren't, I think we kind of heard it in the background about hopefully AK, you know, staying around. But we didn't have any doubt that he would be around. And, but you hear stuff, and you know, that stuff comes from somewhere. It doesn't just come from nothing, you know what I mean? So we were all kind of confident that he would be here. And we're all obviously happy that he's here. Just the leader that he is and the player that he is, you know, huge impact for the team. Well, I mean, I knew he was hearing about it because he's sending out those cryptic tweets. You know, like some of you boys in that same locker room just hit that send button quick. Yeah, he sent out the tweet. He was like eating a popcorn, like watching all the rumors. I'm like, look at this dude. He was mad. It's like, but no. But I bet it would be my feelings too. But I think, you know, yeah. Glad that the deadline passed and he's still in black and gold. Well, because you guys could still take the division, make a deep run in the playoffs. You got two good quarterbacks. We'll see what happens here. I want to get to something fun that we like to do. Of course, we're switching gear to something you're passionate about. You are part owner, my friend, of the Major League soccer team DC United. This is a red card. This is a yellow card. You know what we're going to do as you're passionate about your love of soccer. We did this with you last year. DCU, Famos United, let's go. Woo, woo, woo, look at you, Mark. A little, a little volley. I got to still work on it a little bit, but yeah, that's a little song. I do a little song. I got a little footy skills. Little footy skills. We like it. All right, we're going to do, okay, we're going to do this one first. It's the, before the Bills Packers game, you saw it, Stephon Diggs and Jair Alexander. You've played up there. You know how it goes. They're coming out the same tunnel. They're trash talking. I'm told this is a big no-no in soccer. The tunnel entrance to the field is sacred ground. So what is the call here? That's a little yellow card, man. Football is a little different than football. You know what I mean? And that's just two highly competitive guys, two prideful guys. And they letting it known that we're here all day. You're going to have to see me all day. So I don't have no problem with that. Just a little yellow. Didn't nobody put hands on nobody? That's what I want to see. Just a little talk. Just a little banner. I got a yellow. I want you on the Raven sideline one day night doing that to the entire team. Just chirping at him the whole time. Okay. We're going to look at Eagles Steelers. Jalen Hertz to AJ Brown for one of his three touchdowns of the day. Brown points out the defenders who just be and he's flagged on the play. Mark, do you give him a card? I'm giving him a yellow. I'm giving him a yellow. I took y'all up top. I snatched on both of y'all. Now it's going to let you and you know about it. I'm in the end zone. We whooping on y'all and you got to feel me and you got to feel me too. So it's just a yellow card. I don't got no problem with it. You're a good rep today. I love this. All right. Let's go to a division rival. Panthers wide receiver. Also somebody that we were talking about all day yesterday as far as trades. DJ Moore, 62 yard touchdown catch mark. He removes his helmet. He gets the controversial unsportsmanlike conduct. We know what happens the rest. They lose the game. Are you penalizing DJ Moore? Yeah, this is a red card. This is a red card. If he hadn't got a penalty and he took his helmet off on the sideline, I'd give him yellow, but it would prove costly. The kicker misses the extra point. They're going to overtime. They can't finish the game. So you make a huge play. Get the team back in. You make a huge play. Get the team back title for the lead. About to take the lead. And that's a red card. You know, we took a loss. The team took a loss. And that's a red card. I got to give my boy a red card. Mark, if this is, if you're his teammate on the sideline, what are you saying to him? I'm saying, listen, bro, you made a huge play and no, we can't have that man. Like, like literally we're about to walk off the field and win the game once we kick this extra point. You can take your helmet off over here on the sideline. So you face to the camera over here on the sideline. Everybody can know who you are over here on the sideline, but not on the field. You know what I mean? I saw a rule where they say technically he was off of the field so it wasn't supposed to be a penalty, but they did call it. So this is a red card. DJ Moore, great play. You're a great player, but we just can't have that. He knows that. He said it. So. We can't have that. Okay. Let's go to the AFC East. Jess Patriots, New England running back Ramon Dre Stevenson gets tackled by Kara Lawson by the hair that is legal in the NFL. Should it be? No. And I know Kara Lawson personally. This is my fam and it's a good friend of mine. And I'm giving him a red card. You are out of the game fam. You are one of the strongest, most explosive dudes in the league. And you gotta resort to pulling some dude's hair and he's on the ground as you see and he continues to pull the hair. That is just offensive. And Kara Lawson, that is a red card. You are ejected my friend. Wow. You're really good at this. This is like if you really, we've really found a good lane for you. You're judging these plays. You're the best Mark Ingram. Thank you for being a smiley and optimistic. We can't wait to get you back on the field, but until then we will see you on those sidelines. And we love you and appreciate you coming on. Thanks Mark. We love you and appreciate you too. And you always gotta be positive. You always gotta be optimistic. If you're negative, that energy resonates in the transpire. So we always wanna be positive and optimistic and look forward to positive things. So I love you and I'll see you next week. It's well said, Mark Ingram. Love you too. Talk to you soon, more to come. We're in New York. We're gonna talk a little big Apple Shoms joining us to talk a little Knicks. I mean, I literally, you could tell me, see more butts is on the team. And I'd be like, oh really? See more butts is on the Knicks? I have no idea, but I'm getting prepped with Shoms after this. Oh, welcome back to Up in Adams. Welcome to the family. New Orleans Pelicans saying that to me. I mean, they think the same people who run the same social media run the Pelicans. So I think they were very excited to hear that I was supporting the Pelicans this year. And why am I doing that? Because Shoms told me to and I do as I'm told as we have the lead NBA insider for the athletic NBA, he's on FanDuelTV's run it back. Shoms, how are you? Hey, I'm doing good. Ever since we spoke, I think it's been all positive vibes for the Pelicans. They've been a little injured though. You know, Zion Winston got hurt, he's back. I know you showed some frustration or some sadness when they had all those guys hurt, they won that game. I think Brandon Ingram is on the way back, hopefully the next week or so. So I think they're an underdog because you root for them, you root for them to stay healthy. And I think they can get there, hopefully the next couple of weeks. I'm hearing a lot of Zion's never healthy. So I'm a little nervous about that. Is that true? I mean, he's had a hip contusion this year. There's nothing major. So in his past, yes, last year he missed the whole year. But a couple of years ago when he was healthy, he put up big numbers. I do think he'll be fine. You know, you never, you never say never when it comes to injuries and health with players. But if he's healthy, this team has won a root for, we root for his health, we root for Brandon Ingram's health. And I think, because I think it makes the league better for sure. Listen, we just had Mark Ingram on New Orleans Saints. And he's, you know, obviously they share a city there. And he said, all you have to do is have positive vibes. And that's what we have for the Pelicans and we should live our lives that way. I'm in New York City where I used to live and I'm going to the Knicks game tonight. I've only been to one Knicks game in my entire life. This is my second one. They're playing the Hawks, I believe. Give me what I need to know. I literally can't name a player. Well, as a fan tonight, I don't know where you're sitting. I don't know what the people around you are going to be interacting like, but Trey Young is going to get some hate tonight. I'm sure. I'm sure the fans are going to be out for him. But I feel like he embraces it. He like, plays up to a great level. So you're going to get some cheering for Trey Young. You might even be involved in that. But beyond that, I think the Knicks are a pretty fun team to watch. They play hard. They play the right way. They got Jalen Brunson, their new point guard. And I think he brings them like a swag. He brings them a leadership that they're missing. Julius Randall's playing at a better level this year. Here's some news. Quinton Grimes, he has not played this year. He was the guy that the Knicks refused to trade in a Donovan Mitchell deal. He could make his debut tonight, I'm told. So that is some positive news for the Knicks. But yeah, I mean, I think they're a hard-playing team. And on the other hand, this is a hockey team that was, Kay, in the Eastern Conference finals just two years ago. So they're a really good team. They got Dejante Murray in the off-season. So I think it'll be a fun game. I think you're going to do a great game tonight. Jalen's over here breaking news. I love that. And yeah, Knicks fans hate Trey Young. And should I boo? Like as if somebody who should I boo? Which side should I be on? I don't know, that's a tough one. I think you just got to let your emotions at the game just lead you. Just let your heart lead you to whatever direction you want to go. But listen, you might be impacted by the people around you though. So if they're cheering for him or cheering for the Knicks, you guys might get lost in the Knicks, you know? So we'll see. I don't like when people get booed or bullied. So I'll probably end up embracing him. But I will embrace the moment like you're saying. Okay, what do you like at games? I want to know, like are you overly like? What do you mean? Oh man. Do you cheer? Like what's your go-to right now? I think it depends on where I'm sitting. I have great seats, I believe. So I will just embrace the moment as it comes. I like to people watch. I obviously like to have a couple of beers. So it depends. I think it's, you know, the over and under on like two and a half beers is when I'm my best fan. So yeah, I'll be rooting and cheering. And there's nothing, I mean, NBA games are so funny. I rarely get to go, so I'm super looking forward to it. I have a question for you. What is like the best part of your job? Being an insider, breaking this kind of news, working all the time. What's the best part? I think probably the relationships. It's the ability to connect with people, people that I grew up, you know, being a fan of in some respects. And then you also got to look at it from a job perspective. But I think this is all stuff that I was obsessed with growing up. You know, when it comes from news behind the scenes and doing interviews with players, talking to players, talking to people around the league. Like there's so many relationships I've been able to get from this. So it's probably the relationship side of it. You know, I used to write a lot more when I was trying to find my writing voice when I was 16, 17, 18 years old. But now being able to do TV, being able to write, I feel like I'm definitely a lot more diverse in my abilities, but at the end of the day it's really just relationships. So it's fun. And running back is really fun and it's getting better every day. Of course you guys are building chemistry. Are you embracing the TV side? How is that been? I love it. I love the group that we have and Chandler Parsons, shout out to him. I think it was an interesting first week for him. He literally got married and had a honeymoon and started a fan dual show in the same week. So shout out Chandler Parsons for that. But he's coming along great. We have Eddie Gonzalez who's a producer, who's an on air guy. He's really a glue I think of the show. Michelle Beatle, just an amazing host for us. She's like the quarterback, she's able to, and she knows the game so well and is able to, she literally knows what's going on behind the scenes. She's able to contextualize it, talk about it. So it's great to have her. And I just try to do my part, give information here and there. But I think we have a great group. So yeah, shameless plug on fan dual TV. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 10 a.m. Eastern time, run it back. No, we love it. We love it. We know the NBA trade deadline day is coming up at some point too. So we're gonna have to have you back. But congratulations on the show. I'll be rude. I'm gonna boo him, I think. I just decided. I'm gonna lean into the booing of Trey. So that'll be me that's getting in some fight and throwing my elbows. You gotta keep me posted. I will do that. Shams you're the best. Appreciate you. And also we gotta make sure we start off the show right cause we're leading to you. So you have me on. You're the best by Shams.