 Paras at a ball charge just now and it's causing not just the throat, but perhaps the brain to freeze and I will just take forward some of the things that may have said Mukul has said and I think you would have heard others from Ram just college Speaking firstly little in the last from 2016 onwards For me personally as a lawyer, I think there is almost like a new specialization in law that I would talk of which is about Students professors and all issues relating to universities And I have seen from 2016 onwards many of my friends then Become clients in a sense and I want to talk about some of those things You may have heard some of that earlier, so if I may be pleased to stop me so that we don't waste time On the aspect of criminalization and what Avinash and Mukul also said I think that's exactly the point the point is not that the law is going to be used to Necessarily entangle you in long proceedings. That is also part of the story, but there is a more immediate and Pointed purpose with which the law is being used particularly in the rules being used and that is to Is to both demonize the individual vilify vilify the institution and to engineer and orchestrate hate Against those persons and that is why when we hear these testimonies from teachers and students they talk about Spine chilling experiences feeling under surveillance because that is precisely the purpose with which the Criminalization is done. I want to go back to three of these cases Well cases in an illegal sense, but I think very important Incidents that have taken place as having been personally part of them as a lawyer starting from the 9th February 2016 Jane June incident which in which Post that event actually nobody even knew the event and happened till z news was kind enough to bring it to national attention through doctored videos and otherwise and Engineer hate and that is what I'm saying. There is There is a Plan there is an entire process through which this hate is engineered and law is deployed With full knowledge that there will be political patronage that cause Public opinion can be manipulated and shaped. Well quotes are not saying can be manipulated But public opinion can be manipulated and quotes may Be overawed by the public opinion and I will just say show why I say so On the morning of The after There was a petition file in the Supreme Court saying that on his production some security must be provided The court listed the names of all of us as lawyers who will be allowed to be there And the registrar of the high court was asked to make arrangements When we were entering We saw obviously a very large law and there already been a precedent to this two days earlier when teachers have been attacked and journalists have been attacked and Those who were raising and the part of the mob were actually lawyers of that court Or otherwise it was hard to say but the Natural flag and certain slogans which nowadays seem to Should actually sound as alarm bells for us were very much present there Was a lot of so-called police mother was done There are senior judges present all of us were present we did it for the senior senior most judges that The way in which it has been organized even for those of us who are not in charge of your own security planners But if you're going to put me in the center and have the mobs around me any person with common sense Know that this is a bad idea and can create trouble And this was brought to their attention When he came in he was attacked We saw the man who attacked him The judicial officers and the police that they did not see him some of us didn't see him How he was able to come in is not a mystery Nobody nobody that day could have walked in without an icon of permission from the police So if he did walk in there was not a breach of security. He was allowed to walk in After which Again the issue was raised by us that this is a very serious violation including of the high court order I think it's important when we personally, you know I've seen the 84 Carmage against six in the city and the only memory that it was bringing back of that kind of surrounding and Lawyers and the mob was actually what was happening lately for a day Supreme Court had to rush in court commissioners Why I'm saying all this because most of it is known to you What happened after all this? Quartz five senior five or six of it Senior lawyers of the Supreme Court came as court commissioners because we reached out to them Incidentally, all our cell phones were taken away even of lawyers It was only after the breach happened that some of us insisted that since the division officer that the police has failed to provide Security, please return our phones. We have to reach out to our colleagues At which point the Supreme Court was interrupted by Russian and others and the senior lawyers came they went they were that They went back and reported the next day There is a statement that I'm happy to place on record here because I don't I don't even know if it's worth the paper It's written on all of us lawyers who present as family has done some sleep at our house that they gave a signed written statement to the bench Headed by justice television At that time to please take this and record and take action against those who had indulged in this Justice Gopay in January 2018 said that there is no reason to flog the dead horse and that This matter should now be put to an end and if anybody wants to take up Go to go and access different remedies in the law. It's open to you Why I'm telling the story is because this is how we first demonize Individuals institutions. We create a narrative We are able the state is able to then shape a certain public opinion the only institution that can step in To curb this or to turn this the other way is the court and if the court does not do that then there is reason both to be worried and To repeatedly point out where these institutions are famous So the dead horse may not be from I'm only curious who's the dead horse, you know amongst all of us I also want to just read out the portion of justice Pratibha Rani's bail order When it was granted why granting me because I think that when we say Freedom of speech etc. And I totally agree with what has been said by me here because that's the only way we can argue and have a foundation on which to stand But I think some of the and I'm not even going to bother with the song that she began her Her bail order with but I think we need to look at what is this demonizing and sedition and hate speech doing in All our myths that becomes very important the judge bikes and quoting from a bail order Today, I find myself standing on a crossroad The FIR in question has been registered only on the 11th February 2016 Investigation is at the initial stage The petitioner is the president of Johanna University Student Union. His presence of the spot on 9th February 2016 Has been claimed as the basis of raw video footing of that day 9th February 2016 The petitioner's individual question is in view of the nature of serious allegations against him The anti-national attitude which can be gathered from the material relied upon by the state Should be a ground to keep him in chain. What does the legal meaning of a phrase called anti-national? How does the city judge of the high court use language of this nature? I think these are issues we will have to talk about because There's too much silent surrounding things that are happening in very important institutions and offices as President of the NDSU the petitioner was expected to be responsible and accountable for any anti-national event organized in the campus Freedom of speech guaranteed to the citizens of this country under the Constitution Has enough room for every citizen to follow his own ideology or political affiliation within the framework of the Constitution While dealing with the bail application of the petitioner It has to be kept in mind by all concern that they are enjoying this freedom only because our borders are guarded by our armed and paramilitary forces Our forces are protecting our frontiers in the most difficult terrain in the world Seattle glacier or runoff catch How do I how does my enjoyment or exercise or observance of and this could be No, we could laugh at it. We could ridicule it It's been stated by a sitting judge of the high court and so one dares not laugh Not because of fear of content, but because of fear of what is the Constitution interpretation That is being done in the courts where we have to turn For protection and therefore when Avilash a student says that he's fearful There is good reason for that. I Want to move. So what happened in the JNU case the fact that we were attacked the fact that one man breach security The highest part of the land and see any reason to interfere with the matter While granting bail in fact the condition was imposed that he will not participate in any international activity I'm not actively a passenger not being sure what if this duty was if this can bail condition was imposed on anybody What would they do or what are they expected to do? Of course, there is no chance Tilted and that is what I'm saying the purpose of invoking criminal law is not Actually to take it anyway It's already served its purpose the point is to both put fear In the wider community what is called the chilling effect and to vilify and demonize and that demonization Does not go away with time. We know the demonization of JNU happening others will be speaking about that but there is I've explained its role and I think JNU in particular is being seen in a certain way Perhaps Surajit has already mentioned those things, but I would just flag two faces which are actually coming up with all the high court tomorrow With respect to avoidance and with respect to admissions all rumors Procedures are being Distorted contorted in a manner as to control both the admissions and the avoidance If you can close the admission and appointments of the university's as it was over having already vilified it I Will move very quickly to what was spoken in the Ramjas incident by Mukul and by because I Help them with their legal processes They were not able to get a vilify and I think there is a distinction the reason why most of JNU is Contesting every single attack whether procedures of appointment or These kinds of sedition cases or now that they have earlier Which has been removed the injunction of where you will protest how you will protest CCTV cameras all over Etc. Etc. Is because there is also a very strong Civil liberties committed faculty Which means are all the difference it enables both the students as well as the faculty to take certain position and stance In the Ramjas incident despite repeated reminders and Mukul and Avinash were very out. They were unable to get And I think the principal also wrote letters to the Morris never They were unable to even get the F.I.R. Register that they were that the only F.I.R. Was against them a Complaint case was filed which Avinash referred to in Tisazari by Any young person saying that sedition should be invoked against these people and we saw a Crime branch inquiry the result of it nobody ever saw we don't know what is happening because these are slightly under the radar kind of operations that are conducted So here you have the party that has been and there was some in-house inquiry which Mukul didn't tell us about so I have no idea what happened to that in-house inquiry because they all did give statements but certainly in the staff all teachers were not willing to put their leg out and Get condemned and get isolated and people think both of jobs and other public You know scrutiny etc. that is necessarily follows these times of events and I'll just mention Lastly and I see SNES that is present here We saw from February 2016 also the pattern is the same The round this event was directly linked to the JNU event because it was the invite to mark Khalid Which actually was seen by ABBB as an active provocation and therefore it must be halted. So There is a common pattern that they are drawing and also what she will speak and against whom you will speak So there is a pattern was present here for the Central University of Karyana in Mahedra extremely brave the lecturer I'm sorry. Maybe an assistant professor. I'm not familiar with these great Who didn't have support of a faculty like JNU and Organized and it's something about literature which clearly gets them right had similarly organized a festival where Draupadi of Maharswata Devi was to be enacted and Had read out an epilogue Quoting content What are the contemporary situations in which we could reflect upon Maharswata Devi's Draupadi and it led to some kind of Neighborhood protest by people who apparently joined the army etc because she pointed to the kind of violations the armed forces that committed in the Northeast Kashmir and In the region of Taktis-Babastha She had to face an inquiry that was caused to be a rather high level inquiry in which if I am not mistaken There were at least three retired vice-chancellors and she was asked to give an explanation for reading out an epilogue and has was then let off with a warning that In case you commit a similar act in future, they will take this reaction These are cases that I've been personally Evolved with as a lawyer in assisting these people deal with the kind of attack we are facing And I think the attack is quite clear the attack is what will you speak? What will you speak to the students? What are the ideas that will be allowed to be presented to the students and The criminal law is being brought in very clearly to draw the boundaries of that speech and Speech that will not glorify Their version of the nation stage or the armed forces is now going to be put bracketed in speech That would fall found perhaps not of the Constitution, but then it depends entirely on the judge sitting there and interpreting it but definitely falls foul of what is permissible activity and I think we will in the years to come see much much more use of the criminal law And we will see the criminal law being used. It's not going to go anywhere. They're not interested in filing the cases The job has already been done by naming in the FIA and you are going to then harry harry's both institutionally and publicly in different ways and Representing such people seems to knock on its own issues and concerns I would only End with saying that given the fact that we are in such a scenario and given the fact that University authorities will be increasingly deploying these means. This is something that we discovered with the lunges group As we were trying to find a way to dissent I knew what was going on I think it's very important for those of us who do intend to stand for Freedom of sport and thought freedom of speech and expression and used University as arenas of Cultivating that kind of thought to acquire some familiarity with the criminal law and its processes It's not something that one should necessarily have to do in life But since it is upon us it would be good to know have some familiarity because You will have to know the enemy and its matrimonious to be able to deal with it. Thank you