 Welcome, welcome one and all to the DL debate. Thanks so much for tuning in now live on Highland Radio or back via the podcast. Another pack show for you this evening. Two great victories for Donegal and Championship backs in this weekend. Donegal ladies accounting for Waterford Wild on the Maxi Kern and his side we're going to have a few words from Maxi later on. Of course the brilliant victory of Donegal over Monaghan in Healy Park Saturday evening up there with some of the best victories I've ever seen in Donegal because this side was written off basically but they have pulled together and have come through the group and got in the second place. Phenomenal performance from our lads right across the board. I'm going to be discussing this with two former stars of the game. Two great ballers of course two gentlemen off the pitch the one and only Aaron Kiernan and Desi Mone that's coming up very shortly. Later on we're going to speak with Galway star Shane Walsh. He's going to give us an interview just around his playing career so far and where he sees Galway at the minute after they were turned over by Aaron's lot Armaa yesterday. A happy Aaron Kiernan because Armaa got their tactics right isn't it right Aaron? Yeah we were going down the road yesterday. You were going hopeful but if you were being brutally honest Galway were favourites and unless we changed how we were playing I didn't see us having enough to beat them because I knew they could beat us if it was a KG sort of slow and ponderous game but thankfully the script was written up we went back to a bit of the form and the style that we had showed last year and even though we took a wee bit of fortune with the last free kick for us that we got and obviously then the one that Shane missed himself and I'd be of the belief that the fact that we were so positive in how we went about trying to get one over Galway that I think that's the reason why we are in the wee bit of luck this I think we potentially have deserved. Yeah indeed and at least what a weekend as you know I mean Dunigal and Armaa of course the two relegated teams both you know find and form when it was desperately needed. Card division 2, Turnover Division 1, Kildare doing the same. Desi what happened to Monaghan men you know I'm obviously gosh and Dunigal played I think most of the team you'd have to rate eight out of ten there's a few nines in there but just to get a counter balance on where you seen Monaghan and Saturday evening and what you thought of their performance. Yeah listen Dunigal for a claim that they got the victory and probably they deserved it but you know Monaghan probably slight favourites in that match and you know I was at the Derry match the second match that played against them where they got that draw and I was highly impressed with them the way they just reacted that we got a reaction out of them the way they learned from the first match against Derry and then probably against Clare you know they did some super scorn very open match but I felt definitely confident for the squad and likes to be able to go into that game you know I knew Dunigal had a lot of injuries and he was coming back and there's still questions over them but they were definitely probably the better team overall throughout the match they were getting the 50-50 breaks, there was a ball of fushy by Conor O'Donnell, Claren Thompson and Daryl Boyle, all them players really took it to Monaghan and there was Jamie Brennan that's the best game I've probably seen Jamie Brennan there for a while for Dunigal in a jersey, he really was probably like all around the pitch, round midfield, he won't invite the ball towards the end or Monaghan nearly just two pints down in the match and Monaghan had got that round midfield he could have gone on the scorer but he came and got a round midfield area so overall Dunigal were impressive, Monaghan probably looking back in being disappointed after playing so well against Daryl to get that draw and against Claren and we've some players playing extremely well here like Conor McCarthy, Carl Collins back to his best, Ryan McNesbys in there, Carl Gardner, we've different players are playing really well so it was a surprising result but just listen we're not out of it, Monaghan's not out of it, they're still in it with that draw at the weekend that the primary draw being made there so but to be disappointed they didn't see out that game against Dunigal and definitely and Aaron you made the point to me earlier about Monaghan and maybe Desi will admit to this about Monaghan need like a reason they don't like being their favourites they need a reason a bit like coming back at Daryl, it was a great point to Aaron around that and also like the Dunigal team I think now we had this by obviously occasion we don't want to keep going back to Michael Murphy and that but so many players were lost in that and basically a team plays through the spine and if you look at Patton, McCool, Owen Bann, McGonagall, McFadden, Gibby Brown, Gellin, now the rest of the team plays around those guys Aaron and at that point you made about Monaghan about they need a reason maybe to to get that intensity in there? Yeah it was one like I had tipped them I fully expected them to go and win at the weekend because I know they were never going to be out of the All-Earlin race but for me just getting that second place having the advantage of being at home it definitely was a huge perk and you're sitting and you're looking and you're trying to think of reasons and that's the one thing that I would have looked you'd seen with Monaghan since Desi was started way back like whenever they'd beat Amar or All-Earlin champions way back in 2002 Monaghan's first round and the championship come from nowhere turned them over but it's just pure passion in your face aggression obviously good fopplers as well to go with that but that's whenever they're at their best now I'm not saying it's like a tarot chip in your shoulder the world against us type thing but I just don't know how well they carry the favorites tags and I think that they always like to have that sort of bit of an underdog or be written off just a wee bit and that's whenever they're most dangerous and at their best and then I just felt at the weekend and that's not being disrespectful to your ways because obviously you know where they're coming from and the trajectory of how they've been able to turn their season round is is unbelievable but just Monaghan as Desi mentioned they were covered in regroups so well from what was really a mauling against Terry in in the Ulster championship to turn round and realistically should have beaten them up in Celtic Park and then went in and all out glitzing mats against against Clare and still did enough to beat them the destiny was in their own hands and here I'm getting a home court of final and I just was surprised I felt like they were just a wee bit off it at the weekend and if you're a wee bit off it at this well you can be punished and to me I think an awful lot of it I can understand why you wouldn't want to push up and show them patterns kicker it's given the confidence he's now playing with like he looks like he's back to his absolute best again and so they didn't want to get exposed with a long ball over the top they offered up just the the short free kick or the short kicker to Donny Gull but the flip side of that is whenever you do that what you do is you don't want to get exposed but you know whenever you're doing that you have to then hunt them down you have 15 men who are still in the game you need to show them to one direction you need to put them down a side lane turn them over hit them on the break and that's whenever Carly O'Connell, McCarthy and these boys come flying through the middle create the goal opportunities but for me Monaham were just off it and that slight bit and it didn't have that bit of an edge about them and I think the stat were Donny Gull kicked 11 points from play and 13 and total in the first half that sort of feeds into that they are narrative where they just they weren't their usual selves and didn't play with the same sort of fire aggression and physicality that that you would expect and again the scores that Donny Gull got while some of them were really good they were from they weren't all in around the D and it was beat one man and then it was open ground and they were getting their shots off and again they were kicking the confidence and but it just it wasn't Monaham for me and I'm sure Vinny would be would be disappointed with that that they just weren't at the pitch that he would have expected them to be. Yeah listen Desi I'm sure I remember back in the day I don't remember getting it handy when you were in the round nut fall back so you guys would have been on it every time and there's a lot of there's a lot of talk about Vinny Corey and obviously Martin there you go almost like a unsung hero was brother of the coach you know if Monaham was shot and they gave up the kick out to Patton as Aaron was saying there and basically Donny Gull had a free attack then you know in your own band Darryl Boyle Jamie Brennan punching holes like as Darryl as Aaron was saying they're coming through at waves and it was as if every every opportunity that Monaham would have would result in and Donny Gull having an opportunity to score there didn't seem to be any ability for a turnover and could you believe what you were seeing there Desi and and do you think it was a big mistake the way and I know they'd have fear of Patton's kick out but you know as Aaron was saying there if you don't press it then you got to have your defence right on it and Monaham did neither. Well that's it I remember when I was picking up you man I think it was back in 2007 and I think it made up a reason that he said something about me so happy that we but today's just happy that we tripped out. You just wrote like some tricks you boys. Yeah just trying to make something up but no that like Aaron's hit it there on your side of the editor you need that wee bit of today it's just you need that wee bit of aggression and both teams we've had both teams in the first half just going by the stats in the first half you know like Donny Gull had 18 shots and they got 16 off and then same with them sorry same with Monaham they were getting a lot of shots off they're high 17s 15 coming off. Now definitely things like that they're both teams were probably mirroring each other that's what they usually do when Donny Gull and Monaham meet they mirror each other they try and probably copy what they're going to do but the only thing probably with Monaham that like you didn't see enough of was probably just that they're aggression that attack and you know Kieran Thompson got a couple of score got a lovely score off the down the left side as a stand and there's probably nobody putting pressure on them at all there was a great score and Thompson can do that remember I'm doing it and then also club match against ourselves as well he can shoot when he's on form and it just felt like Monaham won't get out won't make an attack as a wee bit like the dairy match just won't in that semi-finals just won't get out making the tack is getting that wee bit of aggression I'm not saying you're aggression you're filing and you're just getting in you know you're making blocks you're trying to tone them back out but every time that kind of Donny Gull attack they're getting our shots off that Conor O'Donnell is very pacey he looks he looks he looks like he's going to turn out to be a good player phase he got three three scores but he got the ball and he came at pace and he's picking holes and at different times Colgan coming down there as well there was Aaron Daherty come in there as well you know Brandon Cole was coming up the pitch and he had a good enough game also you know nobody was stopping them players and the games you put out even the clear match Monaham are putting we're trying to get stops on especially in the dairy match like they're getting hands on there and being physical it was good tacking but they just didn't see that on in Haley Park they're on on salary and unless the players would be disappointed that they didn't do that to be again they'd be looking at the video like why we won't get my hands on they only know that I know why do we push up in the kick out more because the patterns probably kick out you know he could just over the top over midfield and then with the pace that someone then buys the league on players had and at times it's a correct decision and then at times we needed to push up and it was working towards the end and probably there's a free given against Rory Beggin I think we got it back down to two and that was kind of a massive torn apart as well it goes pattern put it over again from a super score just from the 45 on the stand side and so that was a massive score for Donny Gaul and then that just kind of displayed the one on there again but again Monaham just won't be happy especially with Ulcer teams play as Arran say Arma and all these teams when all the Ulcer teams meet it's this full aggression in your face getting hands on a lot that your player get on the ball trying to nullify what he can do in a game and probably just Monaham didn't do that enough against Donny Gaul yeah and it's interesting now because we've basically kind of named every player and you're right to highlight Conor Donnell I mean a couple of scores he had Thompson brilliant I mean Galen had a slow start but when he strikes that ball he's just he's just something else I mean the man is just something else and you know Donny Gaul you know everything that they put into this as you said Curran, McCoggan, Doherty the young guys coming in now the way they're flourishing it's remarkable and you think all the the problems Donny Gaul had gone in this championship they then lose Langan who is potentially one of our best players you know Big McGee gets injured and you're thinking how can we keep a cover and Arran it's pretty remarkable the way Donny Gaul now you've been able to produce this performance I mean I'm trying to I keep on the view of Aiden Roark and Paddy Bradley and I'm like where where was the change because we had this six-week block going into down and then we didn't perform and then the first half against Claire but since then the team like I'm trying to find out what happened nobody seems to be actually pointing at any getting a one thing or one moment but the team has suddenly started to evolve and and and it's now back to competing and if you had a sit-in me after down Arran we're playing Tyrone and Knockout Championship in Balbuffet after the down match I think we were in trouble now I'm thinking here we can go and beat them it is it's absolutely remarkable um Brandon and that's not at all been said in the patinism way it just seemed like it was one blow after another all year with them between injuries and obviously the managerial issues obviously there was the bit of the fallout last year from your county final and that there so there wasn't a huge pile of positivity and then the down game like again I'd be honest I was just saying to see that's a write-off get those trade games over as quickly as possible try and get your house in order and see what these can do for next year for Division 2 so for those players and the manager to be able to pull all that together whenever you think of the position that you've spelt you're in at a county after the down game it's absolutely remarkable and I was at your final and I was talking to Paddy Bradley and I was you know well about Paddy Lee Paddy all was confident and but he said to me know just we have trained really well you know from the down game I feel we're in a good place I think we'll beat and I think we'll beat Claire and we're going to be hard to beat and I was sort of saying I'm just I hope you're right Paddy but it's going to have to have been some turnaround but to be fair to them to have been brilliant and I suppose never mind beating Claire or Monon even at the weekend the biggest thing for me was whenever Derry kept getting the goalings against you I kept thinking right that's it they're just going to they're just going to take their beaten here now and they're going to drift away but he didn't like even though he was getting up to feel you're trying to work a goal couldn't get it chip it over the bar another score on the board and they never stopped you know even though like goals are killers and they end up getting Derry three in the second half but don't he go and never stop coming back and that said as much to me than anything because they're just luck like a team you don't do that there's something inside there's a bit of pride in you or there's a bit of unity as a group so that was actually the standard point over the three games and as you lead into the weekend like do you know where are Tarona and do you know like they could have went out of the championship he asked her that had John Heslin where you would actually expect him all day along to kick that there like Tarona were at a stage where Joe McMahon and Brian do her are roaring the linesmen to make sure that a free kick is given as a wide because their season was that close to exploding in front of the race so like I think psychologically I get what you're saying that your ways are all eight or nine or eight or nine out of ten but they're taking confidence from that and the one thing about playing week on week is that confidence just comes with you and even if you have made a mistake I always found is it's fresh in your head you get yourself in the same position next week you don't make that mistake again or the good players don't make them and so Dale and Jai the fact that it's coming thick and fast for them now and from the Donegal public like I'd mentioned this to you earlier like this has to be your old-fashioned knockout football like you when's the last time Donegal had an opportunity to put Tarona out of the championship completely in valuable fair and that's where we're at now so I think obviously this weekend with the games everyone getting the home advantage and I think the atmosphere in them and the fact that it's now hit knockout it's actually it's usually exciting I'm glad that we have the weekend off the weekend chill out and watch everyone else take lumps of each other but yeah as a GA appearance it's an exciting weekend ahead yeah exciting sure unfortunately Drone did do is now in a similar type situation in the Super Hater and a few years ago now it was a close game he run out of legs in the second half so maybe maybe we'll owe them one for Matt there's a herd there was a few rows in the drone camp after the match players there was a wee bit of a bust up so you know either and I was mentioning this they aren't earlier I was chatting with Phil I said it got very heated between a few of the senior players and we're taking off in the drone management now either that can work two ways it can galvanize or can create a bit of disharmony so you know if there's a bit of disharmony in the drone camp listen side on side you would still say at this point because of all the people Donegal have out and Tarona's experience all out of the winners from a couple of couple of seasons ago even though it's in Balbuffet let's now say the Boogie Stull would have Tarone got in favourites but if there's a bit of disharmony there it might even even things up does he hard game to call yeah well if you're hearing things like that there and that's a tough one for a squad to go back in the train on a Tuesday night I don't know might be John R. Reese for Liverpool with the Gov's club with the Gov's club situation hope there's not that going on but that's that's a hard thing I know there's new players there and Tarone trying to get their place trying to come on as one of their subs and then there's players that have been there for maybe last decade or so are seeing boys coming on that they're why they're not coming on and things that so that probably could all play could all play a part in that and you know just and in the in the county squad there's gonna be a lot of egos there too that they should they should be playing they should be starting or at least coming on not these not these newbies coming in and they're getting in front of me so there could be a wee bit of that but you never know what a trolling you know yourself and trolling here things like this here that what the what the public are saying and Lauren could say or it said earlier there'd be a trip on the shoulder and things like that there but trolling aren't themselves this last week you can see there as you said they're lucky to stay in in this championship after that weekend and it's hard to wreck like it's hard to go to training on a Tuesday night you know we'll put put things right we'll do this we'll do that that's going to be very hard Donnie go inside I think they're after coming from big win and when probably they only thought that that could do the public probably didn't think they could do it myself I thought the way money we're playing the money like we have a lot of boys playing well this year and playing constantly well so that was a massive winner for Donnie Gull and as I said that's going to take huge confidence for Donnie Gull in this week's training as he said you know we make a mistake during that master for them young lads that not I'll take a flinch on them because just came back into the training session on a Tuesday night and get ready to get going again and to get a chance to knock out Trone and a knockout football is a massive thing it's going to be a massive thing as you all know and lots of football just to knock out Trone or your local rivals it's always a thing you can aim to and I'm sure the manager are going to use that and they're going to be saying what's what's happening in Trone I suppose Trone will be like what's been said that that happened but there is there must be something a wee bit of a risk going on there because probably with this as I said with the players you know some players would like to be starting and they're not and coming on and not even coming on so and and it's it's not a consistent Trone team that's going out every there's always a right a lot of switches things going on so no it's that's going to be that's going to be a massive game down it's in valuable fair and again it's a very hard place to go to get to get your chance to win down there in valuable fair the crowds in top here be a massive crowd and you'd be able to hear every single word that the Donny Gawd Trone supporters will be saying here so it's it's going to be intriguing and it's going to be an exciting week ahead for for Donny Gawd I think yeah you're right there's hopefully it is a hard place to come down aren't you just mentioned our ma boys amazingly now you can sit and put their feet up let's be honest they're very lucky to beat Westby's now that goal that flipped the game you know a very social performance and what I liked about it was when you're down to 14 men in Haley Park you went after Trone you started to see a bit of bite as you said you've been crying out for these forward playing tactics and and attacking the game our ma did it they got their award in against Galway and now you can sit and look back and earn yourself and yourself and Parkinson do your pre-show and I'm thinking myself we may go with the opposite I mean right look at it now you killed airman and car cross common Donny Gawd Trone call me oh pick a winner pick pick four winners here because you may as well just close your eyes you know yeah well the one thing I have learned is that I know absolutely not the fumble my predictions are anything to go by because the weekend passed should just true up nothing but upset um you know but that's always that's what that's what made it so exciting uh like realistically yesterday morning in my own head with a full squad the way they were playing I had Galway down as my favorites I thought they were going to win the all-airland and then this morning you see that they're all Sean Kelly gets injured Homer wasn't fit to play watch his office game a bit spinner he's not going that well and you're going they could be out of the championship before the court before they even get to a quarter final um but from an arm our perspective I suppose again I was talking about money but arm our a bit sort of reflective of that during the year in terms of we were constantly conceding kickouts and that there to me that just gives you sort of a passive mindset where you're always thinking I'm okay I'm in the position I'm supposed to be in if the ball goes there I'll pass him on to someone else and you're just you're communicating more than getting physical with people or making contact with anybody um well what I did yesterday was from the start they went after Galway they had four men inside the Galway full back lane three and a half forward four along the middle and we're saying to Connor Gleason let's go along with this ball we're going to make this a war zone now a few times McDade and Kelly caught us wide open you know and and it was risky at that stage but they stuck to their guns and for me they wouldn't have won that game unless they took the risks that they did for the likes of the kickouts or particularly what really impressed me was the willingness to kick the ball from defense to attack and then from a half forward lane trying to they hit your pinpoint passes to our inside lane and Vernon and Connor Turbot and and that was the winning in the game for Amma had Dave went to the old tactics that had altered the league we wouldn't have beaten Galway yesterday so that there's loads for them to work on and on top of that you'll have Ray and O'Neal back the next day you could have Tear and Kelly you have Ashley and O'Neal you have James Morgan so they have now an extra week that you don't need to try and rush them in training so like it's it's unbelievable how fortunate that win yesterday and the extra time it's bought Amma the management team or the medical team to try and get all their players available because I actually think that's going to be the biggest thing over the next few weeks is who can keep their panel fit and there's going to be some big name I think could end up going out here because you look at say a male for instance even just to get to that quarterfinal that's three games three weeks in a row or Galway to say you've no time to patch people up it's coming second fast here and I think that bit of attrition we're not used to it at this stage of the season I think a cut of repercussions in terms of niggles or soft tissue and even a bad dead leg you could get nowadays in the game and it rules you out a week later do you know so that that could get an interesting aspect over the next few weeks as well also yeah yeah you heard it your first day Aaron Kernan building the case for Armady one the All Ireland this year that sounded good to me there Aaron listen as before let's just go just um uh desi you know I was going to ask you with a feeling in morning on the ground of course you're not on the ground amount on tails we are at I'm currently at RV and camp ran around California at the minute and I'm actually about to hop into some hot springs here well hey hey it's cold springs I know everybody's been given out by GA go but I'm god I've been loving GA go this last time so it's keep me it's keep me in tune with all with all the games that's that's been going on uh but yeah that's what I'm currently down always want to do it I could never do it when it was playing football I says once I retire I says I'm gonna lap it up and take a take a leaf out of your big Brandon I love it large staying charge Brandon and desi just in case you're wondering I'm in cross band here so fair play no beach no beach across my dad sorry and listen desi fair play because it would be very easy to say I'm I'm doing my own thing here you still agreed to come on so listen massive thanks for that there and thanks for sharing your views and I was as always a k lesson great devils on this evening lads all right that's 100% Brandon thanks very much iron kernan cheers lads thank you jai cross jai cross i'm glad that's the two boys say lesson magic stuff we're going to get a quick word now from donnie gall ladies manager maxi korn after a brilliant uh championship victory against a waterford in limerick or again lyford on saturday all right maxi korn congratulations that's a good victory yeah look we're we're really happy to get the couple points on the board you know this new structure within a weigh game and a home game makes the home game very important um so yeah look we're very happy to follow up the poster final with another decent display that's a good waterford team but in the first half in particular they really struggle to get scores and was that perhaps down to your your good defending maxi ah yeah look i think um look whether you like it or you don't like it you know the defending like that is very effective and you know you need to be an exceptional forward line to survive and get scores and playing against a system like that so you know we've we've struggled for scores yourselves all year so we we've had to be as majorly at the back as we could so we were done a bit of work on that and yeah look it's um it's kind of worked again today and um and yeah look as you say they struggled and we got a lot of joy in there kick in the first half as well i think we won eight out of nine so you know again that's very rare to that kind of return on it so like that was all very positive and i think put us in a good position in half time yeah they got a goal early on you hit back with a goal of your own within 90 seconds and then the second goal arrived in the early stages of the second having that more or less left them with it all to do yeah did i look you always thought of you if you didn't consider any more goals you know that they weren't going to kick six points um but look we were kind of hanging on there a bit in the end and i know games have that um way of playing out in that way when you when you're when you're six seventy points up um was a brilliant goal by amy but look we'll be disappointed when we scored one four in the second half um you know with uh with the game opened up and you know the whatever bit of a breeze there we had it you know it's probably disappointing we didn't score more but look that's that's for another day and say we have the three points on the board now and we'll be eagerly awaiting um proceedings now next week down in waterford or meath in waterford because you know that doesn't guarantee us anything because if if waterford could beat meath next week you know but uh but mixes it all back on us for the last game so you know it's uh it's an interesting competition it is it is and finally maxi you made changes in that second half one of the players that you brought on jerry mcglothan came on for the last what seven or eight minutes tell us about that how how was she included today ah look you know the door has always been opened to those girls like they have given donnie gall uh you know a huge amount of over the last um the lifespan of their county career so look the door was left open for them all you know knave higgardy karen jerry looked they've all come back you know different stages but you know um you know we're we're we're we we still have aspirations of staying at the top table i know we we lost our division one league status but you know we did not want to get relegated from senior championship and you know we've put ourselves in a good position now that we might make a quarter final so um i think everybody cares a lot about donnie gall and look some people's situations are different than others and but their situations also change from time to time so yeah i see the door was always open and uh look we're just very glad to have everybody back yeah brilliant maxi what what a victory what a turnaround for our ladies as well you know getting senior players back and of course his bro barney b in there coaching fair play to uh geraldine mcgloughan that you better watch out the mac attack is back listen after the break we're going to speak with golly star shane walsh tune on after that pdo thread lifts the ultimate non-surgical lift for the skin improving facial contours lifting and tightening jowls the neck cheeks and eyebrows are available at janis's aesthetics and skincare 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joined by go we start with the best forwards in the game it's sheen wall sheen welcome to the deal debate how's the form how are you been really driving me on sheen not at all it's an absolute pleasure to have you on what a baller you are and listen from the get go a bit or tell you i'm a half golem oh really what's that what's the connection so yeah yeah my mother's from go away big family was actually an athin rye last night having a sing song very very late which i shouldn't have added a mass of days out on the road being a bit of a sing song an athin rye there last night yeah big connections doing that way so i'm i'm i'm always interested in the trouse maintain and be watching you for years coming up and through and of course so close last year as well in all ireland yeah i know look please god look we're we're obviously trying to build on last year and trying to just sustain i suppose a place at the top table like but look not everything is straightforward when you get to the kind of to that level every team then is kind of going through your your systems and that but please god look we can we can bounce back rts in our particular and don't get the result this weekend yeah listen you started off i suppose you know you beat their own it was a wet day i don't think it was the best of games they had a couple of cards in it you know it was a per enough performance against west meets you know park certainly wasn't happy you pulled away late on an oak homework come on had a few points probably changed the game so you're going to play our my yesterday their minus rain they played fairly poorly themselves but a lot of people were saying there was something about this golly team yous were mixing it you know and i think as you mentioned in the back of last year i suppose like the legs is you know sweeney magrad didn't play it much they were playing well this year mahar was was involved cook was in there so it looked like always building up ahead of steaming maybe you know you could have the luxury of copying the group but i suppose that our maha victory has turned out on its head and now you're facing your your friends and me oh and not good yeah it's i suppose look at all the eventualities i suppose like probably not a lot of people probably thought that was gonna happen but i suppose from our perspective we knew we could have finished third yesterday if results had gone a certain way so look the the bonus over the suppose is that we look we have a home game this weekend but you know it's just to try and bounce back now from it like it's it's kind of strange place to be in that you lose the game and now you're you're still in with a chance to know so we have to take that chance so this weekend and uh yeah it's a great fixture i think for everyone yeah certainly except it's we've been like done it all to run up here you know what there's so much to it it's it's even bigger than the than the the the the chalice at the end of it if you like she and i just know you're late free now i was traveling i didn't see it last night now to be honest and i think any free for you you can have stuff outside of the range of less than 99 percent of players in the country you had a you had a deputy at the end what was your feeling did you think you were going to land it yeah i look i suppose that that's that's my role i suppose in in the team is to be the free taker and yeah i probably i just i'd missed one beforehand kind of in a similar enough spot i was along that side and just i didn't catch either of them the way i'd like to catch them you know normally i like to bring the walls from right to left when i'm kicking off my right first but neither of them i just didn't catch get my foot around this and yeah just a stay go in one direction and look poor by my own uh in my own perspective look that's that's my responsibility in the team and you know i suppose like the look the cold harder algae is i let the lads down by not fulfilling that but the i have a chance to sport next week to redeem myself but i'm looking off in that regard whereas you know you look at the likes of west mead and tyronius to john hislin was a kick of the wall away from putting our tyrone off to the championship you know so look that's the only the rest spice we have for the next day but yeah look it's it's disappointing idea but i always say like i never shy away from those situations and look sometimes they go for yet sometimes they won't obviously you're trying to put yourself in an area that you get more than you miss but um look one of the yesterday was one of those days that probably just didn't go for me either so but luckily you have to get back on the horse now and and she'll recover this weekend prepare for the weekend yeah and it's you know you surprised yesterday because as as being in that and and you know analyzing games than that now everyone was looking at towards the favorites and people who were going to top it's like the whole thing was flipped on its head yesterday you know we with cork and gildare both beating division one teams of course our ma you know and dunny goall you know having so-so seasons but rising the occasion at the at the last so it's it's been a a very intriguing championship for and it's almost impossible to predict who's going to do what yeah well i suppose that every team now like with the systems and everything that's in place so every team is nearly in with the chance to join you probably like the championship is always going to probably boil down to your your kind of top 12 teams and that's probably like joe who've been kind of knocking around the last couple years and you can see how dunny goall themselves have have bounced back from joe poor uh league campaign and and also championship to putting in joe two very good performances back to back clearly uh you know so like from that perspective i suppose it just it's so hard to predict like even for us yesterday we knew yesterday going in our ma was always going to be like we played our ma like we were missed a few lads in the league and this year there was only a kick of a ball and is they were missing obviously reading yesterday there was only a kick of a ball in it like and that's the nature of us and i suppose you just have to be prepared for everything like and that's that's part i suppose the whole plan and things from a managing perspective from ourselves like we obviously look we were only focused on yesterday's game regarding anthony went outside there was was irrelevant really but yeah we just have to i suppose get ourselves ready again and but like that's the beauty of the championship now it's it's now into knockout football and i suppose the intensity and is going to build up now over the next couple of weeks and please god we're part of all that yeah yeah indeed it's interesting just about our ma you know in the front foot tactics you know we're seeing so many teams back off it seems to be the wrong tactic every time we see it i mean everyone's complaining about our ma all year the best that they played last season was when they went that teams and even towards the end the match and all that and semi which you used controlled you should have won it they went at you as he started lumping balls they got their joy and all season have been sitting in sitting in suddenly they pushed up and your your guys just are left forwards inside and they get the reward are you thinking that why is it the teams are so afraid to go and push up i mean i was in hilly park they were a man down the throne throne at the game one suddenly our mass subs came on started to overturn and put the pressure on and the next thing the throne from being comfortable was shaking and they almost snatched a draw from the game which they would deserve so i'm just wondering what your thought is in terms of going front foot do you not think to be successful you've got to go and attack the opposition well it's proven to be the the best way of breaking down the team is by uh turning over a ball high up the field because teams aren't set for that like a lot of teams are set when you're they're up the other side of the field and get a smart fouling or you could you know there's there's always the kind of things to set up whereas when you're trying to break with the ball and bodies are starting to make forwards and the ball breaks down in that area and you force the turnover then all of a sudden you have defenders running back towards their own goal and like no team is strong in in positions like that when a defender has to run back towards their own goal versus when there's no face in front on and seeing the danger common that their defenders can deal to a lot better and like you'll see that in every single game this year when defenders are set that there's more of a chance of them kind of getting the turnover or making life difficult for forwards whereas if teams aren't set there's more chances for job goal chances to come around but like i thought in fairness i thought yesterday we probably didn't give any any gold chances as such in the game yesterday um but just i suppose we led like we had nine turnovers in the game directly and look i i played a big hand in that yesterday but it was um you know like nine scores in a game like that is too much like we saw it the other and find last year eight of our scores came directly or eight of carry scores came directly off us as well so like that's something for us uh to work on maybe just maybe taking the ball into contact things like that like but like especially our man of all teams they were you know they were up for the game yesterday as any team would be and they got the reward first yeah and just taking you back to i suppose the the origins of your of your football as a young lad i remember a couple times i played Aussie rules there um 98 he was one all year in 2001 as well and a great time for the Galway boys and it was a wee bit jealous because you could see the balls that they were on and of course you would have been a young lad watching that and i think i seen some absolute brilliance from you coming up through Shane and i always thought myself god if Galway don't had a bit of team this boy could could really blossom and it didn't look like at times in your career that was going to happen i know it all came together last year but before that as you grew up were you always underage county kind of star did you play any other codes or was it just g a uh no it's not my my transition probably from underage to senior was very quickly whereas my transition from probably trying to make a county squad were very slow like i i never made a number 14 or under 16 county squads when it growing up my lap my first time playing for Galway was my last year minor and a year later then i brought in with the senior squad so like i i suppose that i just probably take you're taking me back memory lane a bit but like i remember when i played under 16 at the time there was like city and west were broken like so there was city and west and there was north kind of county Galway and they were separated so you pick 30 players in each area and they represented Galway as such so i remember i wasn't picked as one of those players and i remember it was a friday evening i'll never forget it a lovely friday evening uh going home in tears in the carriage dad bringing me home and uh joe just thinking that i probably chose some people thought i wasn't one of the top 60 players in Galway and joe it was a hard one to kind of go by but joe i remember joe you'd have people down the village would be saying uh do you know they've certain people they'd pick and all that but rather than kind of saying that i kind of just says this is my time to kind of prove prove them wrong and and do you know if i keep working at it and believe in myself i'll i'll get to that stage of you know hopefully representing Galway at some stage which this has given me motivation now to prove that the job was wrong i suppose and and try and work at it and luckily enough then i made the best transition in my last year of mine or off the back up probably a really good year with saint jarrett's tomb in the in the hogan club that we lost to hogan club final and so and after that then i suppose it just 11 years later now i'm i'm still time to go i see your team listen great you're taking me that's where i would have been in park more would you believe in tomb uh that's where i used to be staying down in uh different places in galway that was one of the places and it's so many players come through jarrett's phenomenal school to make good for you don't eat all lads uh once then john harnley's lads went down to uh jarrett's was one of those conveyor belts how far were you outside the tomb your space i'm about 16 kilometers outside the tomb yes and yeah so that might are it's funny our bus driver actually brought dad into school in tomb as well the bus driver we had patty joelby i remember he used to he brought my dad to school and he brought all of us to school as well and the bus he used to pass the door so it was very handy for us it was straightforward enough dad worked in tomb at the time in the tvag culture and mom was working in tomb in fact he's there at the time so it was straightforward enough for us to get the bus there and go to school in tomb there um which it probably wasn't the norm probably from camber and national school and that there were 17 in my class and ace went to montbellio and ace went to cunamati and i was the only one that went to to st jarrett's in tomb so it was a different experience but when i was passionate about football that's where i kind of want to follow and obviously with the name st jarrett's had you know it was a very straightforward decision it was the place to be and see and just your whole career then leading up as i say golly we're we're out of sorts at times and you were there and i'd seen passage of play that you that you were as a disman he's got it all you know that season last season go through there was different games there that you shone on other games you know not as productive nothing like that the final saying you just absolutely came alive and i'm just wondering about your mindset on the day some of the points he kicked were absolutely out of this world i was just blowing away i mean you went totally totally clever for me man the match i had to give it i i certainly thought you were man the match in the game but some of the points he kicked in i know you can think about different games what was your feeling inside your head did you think listen every time you get this ball i could put this over the bar from anywhere because it was absolutely an unbelievable performance the whole country was talking about you just catapulted you into this whole limelight you know everyone talking shame wall shame wall shame walls it must have been i suppose an amazing experience but so much hype surrounding you now all the time which you you deserved at that performance uh yeah look i suppose it's probably a fully one i like i always say like when the bodies goes the mind is clear and like for me probably coming to the final was the first time i probably felt i just had probably selectively trained probably the the the previous two weeks in in uh leading up to it just because i knew i said look this is this joy these chances don't come along too often i'm 10 years they were going to get to nor and finally so i want to try and make sure my body was in the freshest uh fresh i suppose make it as fresh as i could be uh and in fairness to the pork they don't they manage that very well for me as well and i just i felt really sharp coming into it and i remember in the morning waking up i just i suppose i the smile in my face i kind of just i said to i remember nutritionist uh shanea was looking at me she said enjoy you look very relaxed and i was like yeah i said look i said i'm i can't wait for it you know i just i'm i'm looking forward to it that was that was my probably first initial thing that probably brought my own attention to where i was at and then after that then i was like you know just play by play let's let's let's take this on like you know i was in i was kind of very much along the the mindset of i have a job to do now like you know it's in like my family wants me to do well my friends love me too well everyone would love you too well but i think the day that counts for nothing if you don't go to the game plan if you don't execute um you know the chances that you guessed so i remember the kind of task i had with with having tom or something i just felt i the edge on them uh physically i'm probably taller i'd be a bit stronger than them i'd be quicker you know so i was kind of backing myself and the management backed me as well to kind of move me inside for the game and then they give me that license then to get the ball and you know if i got the ball in that area and i got hot you know after the first ball i got i remember getting out in front and turning and taking a score and he stood off me and i said right this is this is me i'm on it now and every every time then i got the ball i was looking to to join just i didn't matter i suppose where i was in the field like looking back at the game you're probably thinking i wouldn't take on the chances again do you know that sort of way you're and i was just in the zone where the goals felt they were getting wider and the pitch seemed smaller and yeah but just like it's one of those things when you just have it's nearly they kind of say it's like an outer body experience that you have this when you just get the ball you just know where the goals are and and you just you back yourself in those situations and as i look my confidence grew obviously from play by play during the game and um yeah it's just i suppose i always felt like i had the capacity to to to put in a big performance for going like probably that was probably the best stage to do it in but unfortunately we came up short which is ultimately the the prize goal that we were looking for yeah do you know what is fascinating this and easy and because i'm not saying ever play like he did in the final but i remember a couple of my best games i was in a strange zone just like you're saying there that i really felt like i could scored anytime now i wish it had happened a lot more often people would probably say go away was that brilliant that happened but there was a few games there where like that there you just felt this kind of and i was always trying to how do i get back there you know how do i get back into that form and listen to you and that that that's certainly where you were but she and listen you as i say along with the that brilliant performance and the it's catapulted you really in the limelight you've obviously been been doing loads you won all there and club as well i mean you've been so busy it's been a huge season you've now got the camps around the country as well and there's one coming there can i yeah no we do yeah so i actually i just started there today up here in that jubblin so i am in Kilmoco croaks g a ground so i'm doing that there with the first day there with a very good day there as well and sure a lot of kids i suppose and like the big thing is that what i suppose the big thing that i'm trying to do i suppose is from 13 to 16 like it's an age group kind of outside of the cool camp range and like i just feel like even from my time growing up there was never anything really there and that unless you're part of an under 14 development squad or an under 16 development squad you're kind of left as in to your own devices such you train with their club team or whatever whereas for me i was saying like i was looking off probably with the power of my imagination at home i was able to kind of create stairs in my head out in the back lawn and that's what i used to do my things but i was just saying how can i give back to i suppose the next generation that are saying they didn't make that squad similar enough to me when i was that age how can they gain more experience how can they gain sure that that better knowledge and that skill set that allow them to maybe fulfill their their goals and like so i just think even from my own perspective i'm teaching now in a secondary school there under ashwabi jockey i'm just saying the influence you can have on it on a and the teenage are there that like from being sure whatever they want to do with regards be different exercise and p or what exactly i'm doing here is ga that's like if you can influence that person to uh to increase their skill set joe maybe their spatial awareness their speed of movement all of these kind of things if i make a small bit of difference and all of a sudden that catapults them into directing to make their goals to play for johnny galler to play for doubling or play for kildare um joe that would be huge for me like that's that's ultimately what i'm trying to do is trying to push a platform out there for kids that age that are saying they don't have that and they've kind of outgrown the cool camps and what's next like and i know well i don't go off to gale grail tanks during the summer but there's nothing really ga specific so i just said this is a window for me to say can i give back to to the next generation and joe what a nice thing it would be to say if someone came along to me and said do you remember that time you do the camp with us up in there they're kidding and joe i'm playing with johnny gall now joe a couple years later wouldn't that joe that wouldn't that be lovely to have that so it's brilliant and the best thing i think about law is that you're kind of looking to bring in people from all the kind of clubs around like even today like up in kind of the colonize so there's lads from valentine there's uh clubs from joe all around like you're valentine you had ballet bowden you had uh up up the north side you had ballet mone coming down the cross you had plantar lads coming down the cross and it's just brilliant to see that kind of everyone coming down and it's a great way for people to mingle because even for kids at that age like everyone knows what each other's like in the club but imagine you've got to play lads from all different areas and play with them play against them have a chat with them have a conversation because that's where you tend to learn a lot of stuff as well along with coaches it's a magic thing i love it you know uh she and listen and hats off to you and i love the the spirit behind as well i'm going to get on trouble with kevin furrier if i don't get on for the news she and this i'm phenomenal talking to you and i wish you all the best of the camps in the season coming ahead okay perfect thanks so much for joining us thank you thank you thank you bye bye thanks very much she and she and 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