 Shalom and welcome everyone. Good morning to our weekly Mentoring Hour. Thank you all for joining the Mentoring Hour this morning. Before we begin, can I ask one of our students to please lead us in prayer please? Anyone like us, like to lead in prayer with our students? Yes, please go ahead Daniel, thank you. Father, we in the mighty Name of Jesus, we thank You, Lord. I would bless You for yet another opportunity to study Your Word. We pray that You will give us the understanding, the knowledge to know Your Word and better in the mighty Name of Jesus. Lord, we thank You, Lord, we bless You, we give You all the praise, we give You all the honor. Lord, have Your way, the sour in the Name of Jesus. Thank You Father, thank You Son, thank You Holy Spirit in Jesus. Mighty Name of prayer. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Daniel. This morning we have Pastor Roshan join us, who would be sharing on places in the Bible. Sounds very interesting, looking forward to hearing from Pastor Roshan. After which we will take up your questions, your doubts that you have on what he has shared. Or you can also ask questions and doubts that you have pertaining to the course content, the lectures that have been taught or if you're reading something in the Bible, you haven't understood it and you can ask questions on that as well or anything regarding to life and ministry. So you can feel free to unmute your mics, ask your questions or even post your questions in the chat section. And our faculty will do our best to address or answer your questions. Over to Pastor Roshan join us. Thank you, Pastor Selina. Good morning everyone, welcome. Thank you all for joining for this, for the weekly mentoring arc. My name is Roshan, as you already know. I'm just going to share a little bit about places of the Bible, all the land of the Bible, so to speak, and very briefly give an introduction. Maybe like the basics to the basics of biblical geography. And we'll see where we can go from there. Okay, I hope you can all hear me and let me share my screen. Thank you, Sanjay. All right. One of the first things, you know, when we meet a person for the first time, after we ask their names, or at least most of us, we ask them, where are they from? Isn't it? Yeah, if we ask, okay, hey, what's your name? You're meeting them for the first time. And then you immediately go on to ask, you know, where are you from? And when they say that, okay, let's say they're from a certain place, if I'm from Hyderabad, you'll be like, okay, hey, yeah, you know, you immediately associate the city with, sorry, something happened. Give me a minute, guys, let me just reassure you. So yeah, as I was saying, you know, you immediately associate them with, okay, Hyderabad, Biryani and whatnot, right? Let me just ask another question for us. How many of you as love nature? Give a thumbs up or just say, yes, I do. How many of us love the outdoors? Like we like to go hiking, you know, we like creation or, you know, we connect with creation or nature, but yeah, awesome. Yeah, me too, you know, I like the outdoors, I like hiking. And not as much as, you know, now I like them in my heart. But yeah, physically, it's just a little challenging, not a lot, not very challenging, but it's all good. You know, so for most of the times, right, when we read the Bible, we kind of, we get stuck in what we are reading and studying, which is all fine, but we forget the space that it was written and the land it was written in. And so I hope that today, in this just an introduction to geography, I, you know, I hope that we will take away what is, we will understand a little bit of what biblical geography is and how we can integrate biblical geography or geography into our Bible reading, so to speak, okay? So let's begin by understanding what is geography? You know, we are still in Bible college, this is still mentoring, you know, why are we talking about geography? Just give me a little time to, you know, share the basics of it and then we dive into biblical stories for sure, okay? So what is geography? It has three separate categories when you study geography and I've always been fascinated by it. I'm always studying maps and atlas. I keep teaching my wife about the different places that she doesn't know. But yeah, so geography consists of three separate categories. One is the physical geography, there's the human geography and natural history, okay? So what is a physical geography? It studies the natural features on the surface of the earth and the natural forces that affect them, okay? So pay attention. Physical geography is the study where it studies the natural features on the surface of the earth and the natural forces that affect them. For example, if you look at this image, you will see there are hills, little bit of mountains, there are the plains, there's the lake. So these are the natural features on the surface of the earth when also physical geography consists of the natural forces like the wind, the rain, the earthquakes, volcanoes, et cetera, et cetera. So all of this consists of a physical geography. This, by the way, is a sea of Galilee by the city of Capernaum, okay? So that's physical geography leading into human geography is how human beings interact with the physical geography, right? How do we as human beings interact with the natural features and the natural forces of the physical geography? How do we, the way we grow our food, our crops, the way we process our food, the way we collect water and we build our homes, the way we travel and at the end of life, even the way we bury all of these factors into the physical geography and human geography and how we interact with our environment, the surroundings, isn't it? So I mean, if you notice at least the houses that are built in the city of Mangalore look very different from the houses that are built in kill stations like for Utti or even Mangalore. A part of my family is from the city of Mangalore and as kids when we used to travel by bus, the way I would recognize that we are getting close to Mangalore is by looking at the houses that the way that they were built, they use a particular kind of piles, a different kind of brick example, right? And so that's what human geography is all about and it also affects our food. Like for example, just within a state, say Tamil Nadu, the biryani that you get from South Tamil Nadu will be very different from the biryani that you get in the North Tamil Nadu or the East or the West, right? That's why you have, sorry guys, I like biryani. Why? Because of the way it's grown and the ingredients that's available, et cetera, et cetera, right? Amen. So we have the physical geography, we have the human geography and how we interact with them with the physical geography and then we have the natural history which is simply the availability of the plants, the kind of insects that grow there, the trees and the animals that inhabit that particular region, right? So there's the physical geography, the human geography and the natural history. Natural history talks about the trees and the insects and the animals that inhabit that particular region, right? So some of you are already wondering, I can almost hear your mind voice. Okay, all this is good, where are we going with all of this information, right? And so I heard one of the biblical scholars say that Bible was written for us, but it was not written to us in a sense that Bible was written for me to read it, to be encouraged, to be nurtured, nourished, but it was written by 40 different authors over the span of 1,500 years or so and in three different continents. And so the audience were different, the authors were different, 40 different authors who hardly met each other and so I think that begs the question, okay, how are we going to study the Bible? And there are so many different ways in how we can study the Bible and I believe that understanding the geography, the land of it, the land of the Bible will help us or open up a different perspective in a way that we can interact or understand the scriptures better, okay? So Bible by no means is a geography book, but it has geography in the book, okay? So one of the first things, now we look at the three instances from the Bible and how all of these three categories interact with each other. There are so many instances, so many stories, it's filled with it, but because of the time, we are going to just look at three simple instances or stories for the Bible. Okay, the first thing we'll look at is something called the Tamarisk Three. In Genesis chapter 21 verse 33, it says Abraham planted a Tamarisk Three in Bathsheba and there he called upon the name of the Lord, the eternal God. Now, this will come off like a very usual verse because the story doesn't really progress anywhere after, as it takes a different diversion, it goes somewhere else from Genesis chapter 22. It simply says that he planted a Tamarisk Three and he called upon the name of the Lord. Now, again, from the Geographic perspective, now that we know that physical, the human, and the natural history part of it, if you were to ask, okay, why Tamarisk Three? As in, why not an almond tree or an olive tree or a palm tree or an acacia tree or a balsam tree or a fig or all our cedars, all these trees that mentioned. By the way, trees have the highest number of mentions after human beings in the Bible. It has the second highest number of mentions in the Bible. So trees are important. And then you've got to pause and ask, okay, what's with the Tamarisk Tree? And if as an Indian, I would ask, why not a coconut tree or a mango tree? Did you know that? So this is an image of the Tamarisk Tree. The Tamarisk Tree is a very slow-growing tree. It grows by an inch per year, and it has no fruit that it provides, and it takes a long time for it to grow. It would can't even be used to build anything because of its slow growth rate. And what Abraham was doing here is that by planting this tree, he was saying, Lord, I take you at your word, I trust you. And so I'm going to plant this tree in the land that I do not have position of yet, but I believe you. And I'm going to plant this tree as an expression of faith for my generations to come. And when they see this tree, they will know that I trusted you. And the only thing that this tree provided was shade. If a Jew or a Bedouin tribe, a Bedouin shepherd, if they planted this tree, it was not for them. It was for the generations to come. And so Abraham was expressing his faith and also, you know, leaving behind a legacy that his generations, his descendants, would be encouraged by his demonstration of faith. And so that is the Tamarisk Tree. It leaves in such a way that it absorbs the heat during the day and also by night, and then it gives us beautiful shade. This is one of the perfect tree that you would like to take an afternoon nap under. So once again, the Tamarisk Tree was planted. If it was planted, it was not to be enjoyed by that person because he could not enjoy it because of his slow growth rate. It was to be enjoyed by the descendants of the generations to come. We'll talk about the practical applications in just a bit. And as you can see in this image, it's surrounded by the desert and the wilderness. The next highest mention of a place in the Bible is the wilderness, right? So in Deuteronomy chapter 32 verse 10, it says, he found him in a desert land and in the wasteland, a howling wilderness. He encircled him, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye. So wilderness is mentioned quite a few times in the Bible. So sorry. This is just an image of a Judean wilderness. It is, wilderness is a dangerous place. It is a place filled with uncertainty of the value of death. We'll call it, it's vast and rugged. It is a land with very little water and very little shade. And it's not a fertile land. That means you can't grow anything in the wilderness. It lacks everything. It lacks everything a human needs to survive. And yet we see in the Bible that it is a place of refuge and provision like we just read in Deuteronomy chapter 32. In fact, in the Hebrew Bible, the word for, the name for the book of numbers is bar mit bar, which simply means in the wilderness. That's what it is. The book of numbers in the Hebrew simply means in the wilderness. How it became numbers, I don't know. But if an entire book is named after a place, I think again, it needs to get our attention and just study just a little bit further. But without going into too much detail, just this is another image of the Judean wilderness and some more scriptures on the wilderness in Jeremiah 2.2. It says, I remember the devotion of your youth, how as a bride you loved me and followed me through the wilderness, through a land not sown. It's not a fertile land. And Psalm 78 verse 52 says, but he brought his people out like a flock. I want you to pay attention to this verse. It says he brought his people out like a flock. He led them like sheep through the wilderness. One of the Psalms, a very well-known Psalm that we all know is Psalm 23. And verse two says, he leads me beside still waters and he makes me lie down in green pastures. Now, when we read those words, this is the image that comes to us most of the time. It's like lush green Swiss Alps or any European New Zealand Alps or Kashmir. It's beautiful. It's full of lush and whatnot. This is what comes to our mind, but it's not what it is. We just looked at the Judean wilderness. This is how the terrain looks because of its natural features and the natural forces. The land has very little rainfall. December and January is the highest amount of rainfall that the land has. And for the rest nine months or so, this is how it looks dry. And all these little shrubs or bushes that you see is what is considered as green pastures. And so a shepherd would know where to lead the flock in the terrain for his namesake. So his reputation was based on how well he knew the terrain. And yeah, so this is the wilderness. Again, there's so much to study about it, but because of time, I'm just moving a little faster. I hope you all are with me and following, okay. And finally, the three instances what we're learning is this place called the Caesarea Philippi, right? In Matthew 16, 13, we see when Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, who do people say the Son of Man is? It is such a crucial moment in the scriptures, right? There Jesus asked these questions to his disciples. So just a little bit about this place called Caesarea Philippi where it is located. Now to your left, you see the entire ancient map of Israel as you see where Jerusalem is. And then up north is the city of Capernaum and Galilee. And so the northern part of Galilee is what is kind of magnified in your right image, right? This is where it is. And again, way up in the north with the red arrow, you see that's where Caesarea Philippi is located. Now, Herod had three sons. One of his sons was Philip, Philippi. So he named the town after his, one of his sons. And then in honor of Caesar, he named it as Caesarea Philippi. Now, this is a place which was forbidden for the Jews to go. You know, it's closer to this thing. It's in a city called Banias. Okay, so now that we know where it is located, it was forbidden for Jews to go because of every immorality that used to happen in that region, way up in the north. And you see just above that is Mount Hermon, right? Mount Hermon is the highest mountain peak in the land of Israel. It's about 9,000 feet or so. So you begin to see snow in the region. There's ski resorts right now in that land. Okay, so now that we know where this is and where Mount Hermon is, that's where most of them claim that transfiguration happened because of the richness and the snow that is available and the dew of Mount Hermon, it would come down. And there was abundance of fresh water, which was useful. And because of fresh water, the land was fertile and people would worship all kinds of gods, fertile gods, fertility gods. And one of their gods were known as Banias or Banias. This is the bird's eye view of the place of Caesarea Philippi. And every evil that you can imagine was took place in this place. And that's why it was forbidden for any Jew to go here idolatry and sacrifices, human sacrifices, animal sacrifices and whatnot. The statue of their god, Ann, was half man and his head was made of a goat and that's how his statue was. And that's God-panned that they worshiped to people in that region worshiped. And you see this cave kind of thing with water. That was actually was considered as the gateway into the underworld. So what people would do is when they perform sacrifices, like animal sacrifices, they would sacrifice or go through into the water if the goat does not float. That means their sacrifice has been accepted and if it floats, that means their sacrifice has not been accepted by their god. And so once again, that was known as the gates of Hades in our language. And so it was in a setting like this, an environment like this, that Jesus brought his disciples and they're wondering, why are we here? We're not supposed to be here. And Jesus looks at his disciples and say, okay, in this land like this, you see everything that is happening here. Who do you say I am now? And then we know the famous thing that happens, Peter says, and then Jesus says that in the gates of Hades will not prevail. And so he was giving a very geographical context to his disciples, to what he was sharing at the time. And I think this is so crucial to us that it's actually the end of my slide. But in this day and age, if you asked a Buddhist, he would say Jesus was a Buddhist. If you ask a Muslim, he would say that Jesus was a Muslim prophet and whatnot. So, but who do we say he is? And so to understand that scripture from a geographical perspective, helped me understand the scriptures better. So that's about it. Just these three instances from the Bible, the Tamarisk tree is how do we demonstrate our faith and God that our descendants, that our future generations will be moved by it and saying, okay, for each of us, it could be different. It could be something physical that we build a biblical institution and generations would be blessed by it. We leave a legacy behind and we spoke about the wilderness. We spoke about it as an ecosystem, but then in our day-to-day life, it's also a seasons of life. When we go through a wilderness period, a season in life, we go to the scriptures and say, although I'm surrounded by uncertainty and danger, I don't know what's going to happen. There's very little provision. I'm going to depend on you because he is the good shepherd. He knows where to lead me. For my next provision, I'm going to depend on him because he's the good shepherd. He knows it. For his name sake, he's going to lead me. So that's very little I wanted to share about this very basic. I'm by no means an expert in this. So please direct all your questions to other faculty. But thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Roshan. That was so interesting. I think you should think of writing a course content on biblical geography or a book on biblical geography and that would just help and you should teach biblical geography and look at the claps and the thumbs up you're getting for the, so thank you so much. I wish we had more time to just keep listening to all that you have researched, you've studied, you've learned. Thank you so much. We'll take questions now if you have any questions on what Pastor Roshan has shared. He doesn't want to ask questions. Yeah, okay. So Divya's question is, is anything existing at Caesarea Philippi today? That image that I shared is from the modern days of Caesarea Philippi. And so a lot of these Holy Land tours that happens, that is one of the very famous places where people are taken to and shown this is the Caesarea Philippi. Yeah, caves and whatnot. And also it's very interesting. There's a lot of other statues of other Greek gods, Roman Greek gods that they worship. One of them is Echo. Echo is a god that they believed who always lived in the cave. And so hence the phenomenon Echo, what happens inside the cave is where we get the word Echo from, but it was actually a Greek god that lived in the caves according to their belief. But yeah, it's still, the place is still there for us to go and visit. No, pagan worship still exists. No, I don't think so. Thank you Divya for your question. I hope it was answered. There are any more questions, anyone else has? Okay, Sam, how does a modern man living in a concrete jungle have a wilderness nearness with God experience? Yes, Sam, as I shared, we looked at wilderness as an ecosystem itself. But for us, it's like seasons of life. We say, I'm going through a wilderness period, that means what we are actually saying is, it's a dry season, a season of uncertainty, a season of waiting on God. So one of the key verses that's always captured my attention is from Hosea, it says, I will allure her to wilderness and there I will speak with her tenderly. And we just have to have faith and believe that in the wilderness season that we are in, he's our shepherd, that's where he speaks with us and not just speaks with us, he speaks with us tenderly. Yeah, I don't want to go on too much into the Hebrew word for wilderness and everything else, but there's so much to learn about wilderness, but that basically is it's not just an ecosystem, it is a season of life where he's near to us. Thank you, Sam, for your question. Thank you, Pastor Roshan, for answering those questions. Anyone else has any questions? Okay, Divya's question is, does Mount Hermon have any other spiritual significance? Yeah, not that, I know of, but anybody else can feel free to answer that question, but most biblical scholars claim that that's where the transfiguration happened. And I kind of believe that theory because of what happened in Matthew chapter 16, where Jesus asks that question and then he goes into Mount Hermon and that's where the transfiguration happens and kind of builds on the revelation. But if there's anything else, the faculty's free to add. Just reminded, Mount Hermon is in South Bunkary 3 and it talks about the anointing, some of the wedding immunities that the Duke of Hermon, so I think in the context of Brethren wedding immunity and the anointing, it's pointing to Mount Hermon bringing freshness, life and so on. So the blessing of wedding immunity anointed and one of these is the Duke of Hermon, the freshness and life and blessing of the Duke. Thank you, Pastor, hope that helped, Divya. You have a follow-up question, Divya? Yes, yes, ma'am. Yes, go ahead, please. I thought it's better to ask, okay. Yeah, so I've heard of, I'm not sure these are certain theories out there, but I've heard of people telling that in the book of Enoch, there is some, like the Mount Hermon has some significance, spiritual significance. Not sure of the validity of it, but yeah. So I just wanted to know if that is a right theory, kind of, they say the Fallen Angels, something like Noah in the Genesis chapter six when it talks about the Fallen Angels and the Nephilim and all that. So it seems it happened on Mount Hermon. I've heard a theory like this. I just wanted to, I was just curious to know if it has any connection with this, is Seria Philippi in any way? Right, Divya. I'll just share and allow other faculties to share. I have not read the book of Enoch or any other books that is not part of the canon. So my answer remains that I don't know much about the other part which you just shared. Anybody else feel free to share? Just like to add, I think, yes, in the Jewish tradition, they have, they say that Mount Hermon is associated with the book of Enoch, where it is believed to be the place where the Fallen Angels descended to the earth before the flood. But, you know, because the book of Enoch is not considered as a canonical book and hence it's not in the Bible. So we don't know if this Jewish tradition is true or not. It's right, yeah. But also, Mount Hermon is considered to be like one of the possible sites for the biblical Lebanon mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. So that's what geography also says, yeah. What was that, ma'am? Biblical? The Mount Hermon is considered to be one of the possible sites for the biblical Lebanon mentioned in the Bible. Biblical Lebanon? Yes, Lebanon, yes, mentioned in the Bible. Okay, sure. Thank you. Thank you. That helps. Thank you, Divya. Yes. He passed the Ashes once, passed the Roshan to consider leading us on a tour to Israel soon. Yeah. So Pratt's question is what is the spiritual significance of the olive tree? Ashes, Roshan? I don't know much. I mean, I think it was like a symbol of peace or something, some peace of friendship. And also olive tree, I don't know, but olive in itself, you don't mind it but you get so many and it was an olive press garden. All of the oil that you get from the oil that you get from olives or a gentle oil represents anointing and whatnot. So that is my basic understanding of its significance. Yeah, there are a lot more trees, guys. I don't know his thing about everything. I know almond tree signifies this new beginning. Yeah, Biblical botanical, yeah, that's a different topic altogether. Thanks, Pastor Nancy, for saving me, but yes. You know, like Jeremiah has this vision, God asked him, what do you see? I see an almond tree. Almond tree was, but there was a first tree in that region to come to spring after winter has passed. So it signified new season, the beginning of new things. I know a little bit about almond tree and it's also the almond tree branches that's designed in the tabernacle of Moses. But yeah, that's for it. Yeah, we also study about trees. Yeah, it's like to add, thank you, Pastor Roshan, and just like to add that all of trees is basically associated with the peace, a blessing, prosperity. Also, it's a symbol of abundance and fruitfulness. So basically God's represents God's blessing upon His people. Also, all of trees are known for, you know, its longevity and its ability to survive in very difficult and very harsh terrains and conditions. So it can also signify or symbolize strength and endurance and perseverance when we face or go through challenges and struggles. Of course, we read in the Bible also that olive oil was used for anointing. So, I mean, that's one of the symbolic uses of olive oil, it's used for anointing. And also it has medicinal values. So I think I hope that helped Pratt. Did Pratt answer that question? Yes. Did that help Pratt? Yes, no, we did, thank you so much. Thank you. Okay, Sam says, okay, he's just saying, great session, Pastor Ocean, such a rich white perspective, it's the amazing word of God we are studying. Please keep this going, looking for part two, three, four of the series. So the next few mentoring hours, we're looking forward to Pastor Ocean's sharing on. I'm trying to avoid questions. I'm trying to avoid questions, see what significance of victory. So I don't think we're gonna have part two, three, four. So... So I think he just wants us to listen to his lectures and not ask any questions. So maybe the questions can be answered by the other faculty, but we can just hear you out here. Any spiritual significance of the victory? Yeah, not that I know of. I'm sure there is, but I don't know. Any other faculty would like to add? Oh, thank you, Pastor Ashish. Victory in the scriptures represent Israel. Anyone else has any thoughts on the victory? We'd like to share. Josiah chapter nine, verse 10 and Joel chapter one, verse seven. Thank you. Sreeha says, ask for climatic differences between Canaan and Egypt. If you're getting the hardcore geography. Yeah, I think I made a mistake. No. Yeah, I don't know. They're very similar, I guess, but yeah. Okay. Anyone else would like to answer that? Climatic differences between Canaan and Egypt? I mean, they're very close to the Mediterranean belt. So it's very similar in that range region and the southern part of Italy and Greece. So overall, the climatic thing, it's a very tropical Mediterranean kind of a, not tropical Mediterranean. Okay, we'll move on to Divya's question. Are tired and sit down part of Israel during Jesus's times, which are the modern day tired and sit down? Okay, would anyone else like to respond to that? I think tired and sit down are basically, I think tired is Lebanon. And I think sit down is situated in tired. So I think it's, it's, it's, it comes in the region of Lebanon, I think. And Yes, it's in the northern, north, northwestern part of Galilee that's above. But so in, during Jesus's times, I mean, we see that they traveled in all that region and all the neighboring countries. But now it's, yeah, I think, like you said, it's in the land of Lebanon and Jordan to the right. Yeah. So I think, since Lebanon is not part of Israel, so during Jesus's time, tired and sit down were not basically part of Israel. Yes. Of course, the geography is right. Yeah. Okay, I hope that helped. Okay. Yeah, the outside, they're not part of Israel. So they're outside the Jewish state, yes. Okay. Okay. Sadiha says, asks a famine in Bethlehem during root due to climate or God's testing time. Any of our faculty like to answer that, please? The famine that happened in Bethlehem during the time of root in Noyomi. Just to say part here, that, you know, when, when we do read about famine, famines of other weather catastrophes in the Bible. Most often we should recognize them as being just natural in that sticking in place. And then God leading and guiding us people through those naturalities as in, there was a famine during Isaac's time. There was a filming during that group in Noyomi's time. So those were just natural things. It wasn't even called judging the land or judging the people. This is we have famines in through the centuries. There have been those revocations from the Bible specifically says that there was judgment. So then we recognize that as dealing with the sin of people and judging them. But otherwise in general, we recognize things as natural. Thank you, Pasashish. Hope that helped Sreeha. Okay, we'll move on. We have, okay. Thank you. Thank you Pasashish for answering that question. We'll move on to Prince's question. Of all the places or land, why does, why did God choose to give the land of Canaan as a promised land for Israel? The physical geography has any reason for it? I mean, we all know that it was called, call it as the land flowing with milk and honey. And so it was a nourished and a fertile land. It was rich in its natural resources. And we know that part of it. And here and why specifically, I don't know why, yes. Anybody else would like to add to that, please do so. Anyone else would like to share on that? Or answer that question? So like Pastor Roshan said, yes, it was a land flowing with milk and honey, was very rich, very fertile land. And God wants to always give his best to his children and his children to enjoy the best in everything, whether it's land or any other area. So he promised Abraham that he would give him and his descendants the land of Canaan. Also, I think the land of Canaan was basically, you know, a very strategical place in terms of trade routes. Think it was very strategically located for trade routes with other places around the land of Canaan. So like Egypt or Africa, you know. So maybe also for trade and commerce, God just wanted them to enjoy the best, yes. Yeah, the place of Bershiba where Abraham planted the Tamarisk tree later on becomes to be, goes on to become a very powerful place for commerce and trading in the southern part of Jerusalem as well, just adding to your point. Yes, thank you, Pastor Roshan. I hope that it helped Prince, okay. Pastor Nancy's question, while God speaks and communicates through everything, land and trees, et cetera, is there a danger of over-interpreting these things? Simple answer, yes. Yeah, Pastor, I think, I mean, when we interpret, we interpret the scriptures in the light of all the scriptures, right? We don't take one verse and take it out of context because it has the potential. I think we can, there's a possibility for us to over-interpret things, but just be careful, do enough study and see how it's consistent with the rest of the scriptures. And to answer Divya's question as well, yes. Yeah, so Pastor Roshan has already answered Divya's question. I hope, Nancy, your question is answered, and also, okay, yeah, thanks. Yes, anyone else has any questions? Yes, Kofi? Please, I would like to know whether Abraham ever lived in the land of Canaan before he's dead? Yeah, so when Abraham planted the Tamarisk tree, it was the land of Canaan, he just didn't know that. And yeah, and when you look at his journey as well, he starts a journey from the land of Ur, which is on the other side of the land, and he travels up north and he comes, and so he was there, but he just didn't know that was, and he knew that, I think in the book of Hebrews also, he says that, although he knew that he did not own the foothold in the land, so that just goes on to say that he did live there. Thank you. Yes, any other questions? Thank you, Kofi, for your question. Genesis 12, 5, and Genesis 13, 12. Oh, I was just saying that Abraham came there and put Abraham in Canaan. Okay, these are scripture potions that are talking about Abraham coming to the land of Canaan, and living in the land of Canaan, yes. Thank you, Pastor Ashish. Anyone else has any questions? Okay, if there are no more questions, then we'll end the mentoring hour. Thank you all for your interesting questions. Thank you, Pastor Roshan, for your interesting talk, and we look forward for more sessions. We'll end now. Thank you all for joining the mentoring hour. Have a blessed day, and a week ahead. God bless you. Thank you so much.