 Is the breakfast in plus CV Africa is the kind I took is on standby He joins the conversation in no time is a public affairs analyst Is it going I took is a pleasure to have you join us this morning on the show? Thank you. Thank you always a pleasure to be with me. All right, then we start off with the leadership news people this morning It talks about 2023 presidency Protesters invade a PC and PDP secretary Want party tickets zoned to south just like the energy is Topping the charts. I mean the conversation the voices are becoming very loud for you know, southern candidate APC records a high turnout of presidential hopefuls as fire me a Fabio Schumiller declares a more shoe joins race today. Hmm. We talked about that During our conversation on top trending parties presidential aspirants now 20 Toonday Bakery declares on Monday. Very interesting for democracy It is good for democracy the form of governor of legal state is quoted to say Bola to the ball These are the riders you find underneath the board caption you went mobilizing 151 million dollars to support Nigerians terrorism fight Antonio Gutierrez is quoted on that federal government to end 201 billion dollars in taxes royalties from lekkie deep seaport To suspect dye planting bomb at all Femme in emo There was also another report. I don't know if you saw that about an explosion that happened Really really really sad and we're hoping that we can overcome all of this as a country Beheading of soldiers by iPop unacceptable President Muhammad of Buhari is quoted on that and Lagos Paso gets live Jio for defiling friends tween's daughter. I just kick as telecoms plan to increase calls and as Ms tariff by 40% these are some of the headlines on the leadership this morning Away from the leadership will move on next to the nation newspaper. Tina bullies and the news He says many presidential aspirants good for democracy Osama le fire me up by the joint race Jigar governor peaks nomination form PPO case exclusion of two contenders NBA chides federal lawmakers over no ransom payment bill 73 73.8 million Bank accounts not linked to be VN All right 128.4 million customers targeted MTN Maffab to roll out to K5 dispatch in October August 24 Abiodos suspended 8th. Let's guilty to three hundred and fifty thousand dollars fraud Lacky ports to generate 201 billion dollars among all the stories on the nation newspaper Away from the nation. We took a look at the daily independent UN scribe advices federal government on how to eliminate terrorism These are theaters of criminality in the south a kintola tells Antonio Gutierrez As you went to act decisively before war breaks out in Nigeria to ride as you find underneath the boat caption Terrorism fight much wards with action a fenifera tells the president terrorism fight much wards with action a fenifera tells the president and you also find then we wouldn't let relinquish land for national livestock transformation plan and The governor is quoted on that Samuel or Tom Headsman Q2 in Benway community now telecom mold 40% increase in call Data tariffs over energy and operational costs What can we do and fire? Mishomole a Fabio declare interest as Bakery Vice-president peak the forms today. So we're thinking to pick the form already. Nigeria needs God's Visitation the former president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria Basandro is quoted on that that's it on the daily independent newspaper And finally on the punch newspaper the lead story for this morning multiple candidates threatened saddened presidency Leaders 124 aspirant and there's a picture of their 2023 power more shift to the South's a PC Please note our concern a group, you know protesting there save Nigerians from insecurity rep still Buhari Lagos pastor jailed for life. Arabian friend streams called Ford's parents Slain military car for Buhari demands killers arrest I bought the nice complicity Among other stories on the punch this morning As they come yeah, I took it's good to have you join us this morning on the show Thank you for having me. I'll say that again Which of the headlines interests you as we went through the pages of a national dailies? I Don't know Interest We would be a little bit go ahead Extremely Of great national import, I think that we are doing Journalism in a way. We are not really thinking about it We're doing the reporting and we're doing excellent work at that But when you go to the constitution and know that The journalists are referred to as the fourth Estate of the realm That designation which is in our constitution Has a spirit behind it You don't only Report you have the national conscience barometer in your hands Which means that you have the capacity to set agenda You have the capacity To see narratives that are against national interest To play down on such narratives and to play up Narratives as a responsibility That will advance the good of the nation That's my layman's understanding yesterday, I Was privileged to have virtually the whole day With in fact, I was hoping I'll be in your station this morning There's something happened that I needed to rush back with the last flight I will explain virtually the whole day with the former president Obong or Bassan Joe and I say something and listen to this When he was about to start to talk because I went with ADC I'm a beauty member of ADC and a handful of us went to have a hard-to-hard talk with him When he was about to start talking we wanted to record His his his his people said no, please. He said no stop them Don't stop them. Let them report. I want it on record Now the input of that is that what he wanted to say he had thought about it It was not a spontaneous thing. It was something that he didn't mind being quoted And what did he say? he said that He has lost faith in the capacity of APC and PDP to give this country the direction it needs and That is why though. He is not a member of ADC because he's right now non-partisan, but that he sees ADC as the party The that has the capacity in the immediate future To change the trajectory of this country in the right direction He said that and he said I want it on tape. I want it recorded Why am I saying this? Look at all the newspaper reviews Look at everything. It's about APC PDP APC PDP APC PDP Which media house has sat down as a policy Trajectory or position or editorial perspective to ask Do we have an alternative? ADC came third in the last general election APC came first PDP came second ADC came third. How many media houses have the logo of ADC? How many media houses put ADC as a narrative? As are today ADC has nine presidential aspirants including very well known names Like Kingsley Moalu Who talks about them? On a daily basis people like you know do maybe Kachiku Who is well known in this country in his field and has done well People like Chigokamonye Whom when he talks to you you can see wisdom. You can see Accomplishment you can see competence and capacity. I can go on and on and on these people Nine of them have come on ADC who talks about them. I Think that the media ought to tell Nigerians that they have a choice When you look at the current electoral act and the provisions made It gives you the confidence that your vote will count Because in the past we say oh you don't belong to the big parties We know what blah blah blah, but now they know that the vote will count. It means that ADC with his plan Networking with the entertainment industry today Imagine Bonaboi Whiskeyed To Baba all these people coming together then the nollywood Coming together to say young people This is where we want to go ADC comes and says we don't want young people to pay. We don't want women to pay We don't want people with disabilities to pay come pick your form. Let's create a new narrative Let's create an alternate platform and a DC is is doing a debate for all the aspirants Let Nigerians see that animation of who a president should be who is talking about them Which of the head wanting to pay the media? Because the media have the moral conscience to say talk to us I know that like this much. I'm talking in some places. I've probably cut short Plus TV has agreed that they will do everything to promote this and I need to give you good the credit That's why you be silent and let me say this much But can you also help to tell your colleagues that Nigerians have a choice? Is it going I took just before you know Justin comes in there? We're not expected to be partisan. So when you talk about No Is it I took you rightly mentioned that whether we or not we have a logo of a certain political party you mentioned the party Did you belong when I expected to? You know be partisan and we know what When you mentioned The umbrella Director said I take exception to that I am in a DC. I'm talking as a beauty member of a DC the third largest party in Nigeria And you're putting an umbrella in front of me. Can you please put the logo of a DC? Let me see Okay, let me like I'm talking. I don't want to challenge you because it may not be necessary But how many how many media houses have the third largest party with nine presidential candidate Like you have mentioned that we are one of the responsibilities that we report and so what do what how do you report? What has not happened? That's the question What exactly is going on with this party? No, sir, but I hope that you understand where I'm coming from No, I don't unfortunately Let's let's just move on so because of time so we can actually cover much ground the UN scribe Antonio Gutierrez is in Nigeria and He is advising the federal government on how to eliminate terrorism I Read the story yesterday and a lot of people are asking him to go see Those sites for him seven not necessarily Believer what the federal government is telling him but let's talk about him Advice in the federal government on how to eliminate terrorism. How do you react to this? Is he kill? I when when others care about Nigeria, I They are not these people are not as stupid as we think they are on the daily independent Become a global village They know what is going on even when they come here Many of us including the two of you travel out of this country a lot And even when you don't travel you are you are exposed to international media and you know the social media and everything The the the issue of terrorism in Nigeria is starting to become a scandal When you look at our budget every year on on on on on security And then you now go into the A synthesis, you know an analysis of the budget In every budget, they are subject where the monies apply Are they going into recurrence are they going into capital within the call recurrence? What are they going into is it training manpower development or is it when you do all this Forensic analysis, you get to discover that there is in my opinion. I may be wrong. I pray There is a thriving enterprise that will make it difficult for the concept of insecurity to end There are people benefiting and feeding fat How have we done investigative journalism? To see where this money goes How have we engaged experts across the board including Nigerians to see Whether we are doing the right thing the right way or we are creating an atmosphere for people to to rip off the state where You know, I was on television Sometime and I was saying something about You know, give me an advice to a governor As I left the studio Somebody gave me a call with the block number. I picked all numbers. I've said this before And when I picked he said, I think you know, we have a lot of respect for you. Please don't say that again I was a little bit. I said, I thought I was doing it in the in the interest of the state He said, yes, we know you are but you see this government If you don't do like this, they will not release money So don't either listen to you at the stop that it means that you plunk the way that people, you know I cut the call because I was actually Infuriated I was actually angry that people think that A decision that will save us money is a way of blocking their means of livelihood And he was talking passionately. He was He was not talking like a joke. He was really serious about it. Oh god, don't don't do that You know, you get profession in no way to job your money I want all these people if they know if they don't do like that, you will not do like that They don't go bring money. Let's do it. So what that means that insecurity could be instigated And yet see where it's dropping us because of personal gains The whole nation is being held to to to to a standstill People cannot go to the farms And insecurity is coming from the angle of food And national security Is a broader perspective than insecurity Children not going to school is an aspect of national insecurity And so many other things. So I think that We Nigerians don't need anybody to come from outside from un to give us money Or to come from to come and see to run on that no The day that We Nigerians want insecurity to end it will end Look at everybody that is jumping up to become president president president How many of us have held them to account We are marrying the crowd of we are talking so much about a hundred million Do we know that a hundred million each time you say a hundred million these guys just look at you and like Why are you coming from that's not money to them A hundred million that we split our heads over is nothing One house that they own in Dubai, you know how much they pay and they have several of such things So what you are breaking your head over is not even touching them You're thinking in terms of a budget of 15 billion for your campaign. You're talking of a hundred million for form These guys live in two different worlds And the time has come when we should sit down and ask ourselves I'm not to be upon a chance. I mean you and I Nigerians with moral conscience the time has come for us to sit down and say look this country belongs to us Before somewhere like myself will want to contest for the governorship of a quiet one step. What do I want? God has blessed me. I don't need to be both who are arrogant about it But how did I get to where I am today? What what legacy am I be quitting my my my my my generation or my my children? I'm a grandfather today What will I tell my grandchild Aaron? What will I tell him that I did? Let me have a certificate when one day is going to ask me grandpa What did you do and I'm telling against all odds? I put my life on the line and I contested the governorship of my state And this is what I say. This is what I did. This is the effort I made And when he talks he will talk with it as as a proud child and say this is what my grandfather did He's not every old person that was that was useless that ruined this country My grandfather did this. This is you he will show them videos He will show them take them to my place see the ideology and see my campaign and he was not talking money He was talking passion and love for country. I'm proud of my grandfather. That's what I want to live That's what I want to be quit my my my my my my my my my children and grandchildren How many of us are seeing Nigeria as our responsibility? Oh, it is dear responsibility Yes, you come and fix it and when they come to fix it you collect money from them You collect a vote you said your vote when they come for campaign you tell them to learn We are they getting all the money from I'm talking as somebody inside Wearing the shoes on a daily basis losing weight. If you look at my face, you can tell that something has gone All right Something else to give. All right, Mr. Ezekiel. There are other stories on the nation. Let's take them before we just round up very quickly 73.8 million bank accounts not linked to a bvn 128.4 million customers Targeted I want your reaction on that What is not linked targeted? What does that mean? Is this concept of fraud? Banks know they are feeding fat from from from monies that cannot be accounted for Who are these people? You know how to hold our phone lines when there is no no NIN NIN sorry NIN NIN you know how to freeze Why can't you freeze all these accounts let the honors come up and and Tell the people within if this is your money. What are you afraid of? If this is your money legitimate money if the bands are to be sincere with you I have friends in the band at the highest possible levels And when you see them and one of the things that god has blessed me with is that people are confident And they talk with me and they know that I will keep my mouth short in the sense that I will act responsibly When they tell you what is going on in the bands If efcc is to sit down and tell you the truth icpc nfiu You will know that what we need is in this country is in this country And it just takes one person that means well all this over 70 or 73.5 million You know a bank account let them tell you the amount involved In this account and why they are not linked to any dvm And transactions are still going on and the central bank don't know who wants to be president of Nigeria is keeping quiet Is he not aware of that he is What does he say has he given instruction seven days get this done or else bank Say all this every single person that was at a bank account has details with the bank That's one of the conditions same message to all these people Within seven days if you do not come we'll move all your accounts Let central bank insist that all the accounts will be moved into central bank safe custody Nobody's touching the money. Nobody's touching your money safe custody You'll be shown how banks will rush and get the bill because they want the money to come back into the account And then these accounts are going to be with us for six months Within six months all the accounts that have not been taken. They are going to be moved You know to another place where there's going to be a costly maybe NSIA Where there's going to be a custody of this money applied to you know interest yielding ventures That we'll be able to pay the next three interests so that if somebody had traveled abroad Okay, and didn't get the message 10 years five years it comes back is money's not only safe But there's interest in sort of declaring dominant account and all and the bans we're feeding fat on it When this very simple statement is made every customer's money safe Very safe. They are not moving it to use any way and the government money responsibly enough Other people kick against it because I know that once they move it stories will change But the day we have a government that is believed they will say Commercial banks move the money to central bank. It stays with us for six months. Anyone that's above six months We move it to maybe NSIU. Okay, and then we'll now Put it into maybe real estate Where we know that the funds are safe under very strict conditions, you know working with maybe, you know The mortgage banks or something But it is there's a framework that makes sure your money is safe But then it becomes interest yielding and not just in the bank where the banks are making money with it and they give you explanations When they do this brother within 12 months every account every account will be accounted for and then all that money That is that is that's touched away by people cannot come out because it's not their money They can be used to to help Nigeria using education using something that will advance the good of this country All right. Thank you so much Architect the music and I took for your thoughts that you have shared on off the press this morning. Would you appreciate your time? Thank you, and I'm sorry about what's happening. Anyway, I'm just there No, we need to go. Thank you so much. Everyone needs to hear every side of the story. Thank you so much All right. Thank you Zika. Yeah, I take for being part of the show. We appreciate you as always I mean, so, you know the part of the Apology I mean, it's okay. It's part of the conversation But you also need to understand that the question Of you know the role of the media and all of this is very apt But you can also not take out the fact that majorly you report what happens And so how do you then not report what has not happened? I mean a lot of people have questioned. Where's the presence of the thought force or other political parties? We know that we have More than I mean two parties that are contesting for the 2023 elections. I mean approved parties will be 18 Where are these political parties? What are they doing? Where are there because I mean in Lagos state I really don't know who actually felt the presence or had anything about them This is me speaking and I stand to be corrected I don't think it's fair for us to put the blame entirely on the media But that's the much that we can take on off the press would definitely return tomorrow And it would be an exciting conversation looking at the front pages of a national dailies in the meantime We'll take a break, but before that time. Let's let you know what happened today in history