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I'll think about it over the day But I have an idea for a new segment Which I've kind of been doing off and on on without it being a named segment But see the SCP wiki a lot of stuff goes on on the SCP wiki in the administrative section of it there's an o5 forum for the administrators the moderators and Operational staff and junior staff actually But they all make these decisions and these big changes come to the wiki and a lot of people know about it But I'd say that that's majority people don't so I Thought I would actually have a running series where I kind of anytime there's Unimportant change or maybe even a collection of minor changes that are worth Making a post about or I should say a video about that I would just do that so today We're gonna talk about Several changes to the SCP wiki will start with the most minor ones And then we'll move up to the other ones and also cover possibly some of the background behind it so we have I Think the least important change is essentially the changing of certain guides to essays So on the SCP website a guide is sort of a staff sanctioned informational page whereas an essay is just like Advice from say a write a particularly well-known writer or just someone who is an expert in a particular field like technical words or I'm trying to think of something else like how to use black boxes correctly in this case They're actually going to change the technical words Quote-unquote guide mobile task forces guide and personnel and character dossier guides to essays yeah, they're gonna change them into essays and And yeah, that's it's a not a huge deal, but it is a little different than what people are expecting. It's gonna change Nothing serious, but people who's got their characters on say the personnel and character dossier page are now gonna be like Oh, you know It's no longer a guide. It's just an essay just an opinion On top of that They're also this is something that the there's a team dedicated to this sort of thing and The other half of that is that they're rewriting the frequently asked questions page now the changes. They're making are mostly pretty minor and focused mostly on the Like just an updated thing talking about like the green lighting process though again there's The wording could be better. In fact, I think I remember reading in the new version of there's actually a misspelling that I Noted the word successful in the was it Third the second paragraph of the response to I wrote an SCP. They just misspelled successful I'm sure they'll fix that before it gets posted, right But yeah, it talks about the green light process which is fairly new I think They could do it does say like yes, of course Please show it to reviewers before posting the ant the question is I wrote an SCP. Do you want to see it? Show it to reviewers before posting although you don't have to and then the second paragraph Talks about how to get feedback But the way it's written it still feels to me like it's like a directive like you have to get feedback I The problem is that the people who are gonna make that mistake by reading this and thinking that it means that They have to get feedback are generally the kind of people who probably really need to get feedback So is that the but it's it's whatever. Anyway, they frequently ask questions getting rewrite They are modifying the adult content warning policy. This is something we covered a while back So the SCP Wiki is also raising its it's it's raising the age of the membership the minimum age for membership and part of that was also that There's content on the SCP Wiki that is not for children. It's not for people under the age of 18 really I mean how mature you think you are it doesn't really matter The important part is that the adults in the room are at least taking precautions if you if you get around them I mean, it's the internet. There's it's like a fucking colander or Or a strainer like trying to hold water in it You're never gonna succeed But you have to make the effort because if you don't make the effort then it's wholly on you But there's adult content on the SCP Wiki and regardless of how you feel about that They have instituted an adult warning policy. This is something that goes back a while The problem was is that the adult warning policy precluded you from being able to read anything if it what if you were not a site member now I don't necessarily disagree with this Uh, it is an additional barrier to entry for the SCP Wiki The only problem of course is that the The scp wiki is Astonishingly and notoriously hard to join Even if you meet the requirements and are of the proper age requirements And in addition, I think the scp wiki staff In general did not consider the fact that maybe I mean it says on here I'll use their wording because it's something that I've known for a while, but apparently some of these people did not quite get um yeah The traffic that the website gets from non-members is so overwhelming that the traffic you get from members is essentially negligible statistically insignificant The majority of scp wiki traffic comes from non-members. So What you're doing by Forcing people to join the scp wiki in that case is and saying that if you don't you can't read it It's making it so that any adult content, which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing But you make it so that adult content is generally not read because it can't be read by 99.99 of the people who are part of the scp wiki the other half of this problem by the way is is because The way Okay, so let's let me let me let me let me just make this Let's make this clear scp wiki staff The current ways that they have to approve Approve applications is essentially unsustainable But they're sustaining it anyway Anytime there's like a big rush to join the scp wiki Which this incentivizes by the way Having a policy where you have to join the wiki to read everything incentivizes joining the wiki, right? Anytime you have that as a problem You are creating a ton of work for the scp wiki staff because Individually there are You have there's a person that has to go in and approve applications every day every week, etc so And they don't want that Which it's kind of counterintuitive, but I totally understand it because the system they have set up is both difficult to manage and also has to be They've set up a system where they're kind of screwed anytime. There's a spike in Applications because they just don't have the manpower to deal with it The only people who can approve it are administrators and administrators on the scp wiki are We'll call them rare not super rare because there's like so many people that are administrators at any given time Um, but it's it's sort of rare and not all of and most of them in general are not super active That's the thing once people become administrators They tend their activity levels tend to go down There's like you'll usually see like three or four administrators doing most of the work on a given day and for a website with Millions of people viewing it on a day-to-day basis on a day-to-day basis, but maybe on a monthly basis I'm not sure what the total traffic is. It's a lot though But with millions of people viewing it period three or four people capable of accepting applications is a sort of a problem. That's why it's unsustainable in general but To try and alleviate the possibility of people joining the website just so they can read adult content on the website Which is enough in and of itself is its own sort of problem They're just going to try and make it so you can click through you can say. Hey, I am old enough And click through without having to actually be a site member I have a lot of I have a lot of opinions on on the way this policy is implemented and especially on the way the scp wiki handles joining But it is what it is All right. What's the other ones here? Right. Yes Okay, so they have instituted a new policy Which there was a problem. Okay, and I'll explain what the problem was in a second because this is something that's been communicated to me Uh by another individual who I will not name But essentially this Un I'll tell you who in a second a banned user messaged an active user Who then contacted scp staff To request an edit on behalf of the banned user and because of the way the policy is written That was not explicitly disallowed Now the way the policies are written for how banned users banned users can't post new content But the current rule set which I think this passed already. I could be wrong. Yeah, I think yeah The it's actually passed already. So this is This is now talking about old rules versus what is currently in place But the old rules said that you could request edits of your page If you were banned from the wiki right now It's always been true that you can request for your works to be deleted as long as they're not co-authored because you'd have to get approval from both authors for that but The scp wiki realized this was a loophole not really a loophole That's not technically what that is because they're not you're not getting around any rules You're just following the rules the scp wiki is really weird about that Anytime anyone follows the rules the letter They feel as though they have to change the rules if it if it produces if following the rules to the letter Produces a result that the scp wiki staff do not like not necessarily as bad or good or whatever But do not like they'll change the rules to fix it Uh, which is fine. You know you do what you do you do what you want to do You get to play the game the way you want to play the game In this particular case Max Landis is Believe it or not is the impetus for this. So he wrote The forensic I believe the forensic ghost of tupac Shakur It's been a really long time since I read it, but I believe that's the name of the article The important part is is he wanted some edits made to it and uh an extant user requested those I'm not going to name them because I don't want any I don't want any of this to be like, uh Drama thing because it's not a drama thing. It'll be be clear not yet. Anyway But So asked an extant user, you know, hey, this is you know, I didn't know this was a thing and I don't even know if they asked explicitly but the extant user was like Talking with them about some, you know other stuff and that came up and it was like, hey, can I get an edit made to this page or Hey, this person was talking about edits and then I'm kind of curious just independently I'm not going to go into too much detail as the background for it because I don't know all the background to it The important parts, of course, are that the scp wiki staff Clutch their purls immediately and we're like, oh my god Max landis wants to edit his article. We have to change the rules now And what's really funny? Hold on. Let's see if we can find it in here In the discussion page. Let's see if we can find it here So they're talking about whether it's going to be retroactive because they're like, oh, what are we going to do about the currently outstanding request? Uh Yeah, yeah, yeah, here we go. Here's the here's the caveat that they managed to make it work So there was an outstanding request when this was done In my opinion as there is a pending discussion on the matter any decision relating to a request from a ban user Would need to be delayed in order to prevent specific bias before a vote by staff could occur So the idea is oh, shit. We didn't think about this Let's put all of these requests any requests we receive which they only had one there was only one ever really Let's put any work all of these mini requests we have on hold Until we get a vote about changing the rules so that we don't have to worry about retroactive application of it So that happened Uh, and yeah, I think those are the four major issues right or major issues but major changes right now I'm gonna moving forward keep a better eye on the o5 command forums And you can count on me to just in general give you updates when a major change comes across the board Or even as I said minor changes that Really affect things. I think the most major change out of this whole set honest to god is the uh, The policy for the adult content because that was affecting You know the full user base almost um The other stuff is sort of very niche Um, just like hey, let's update the frequently asked questions or hey, let's change some Guides to essays because they're not really they're more opinion than fact or hey, let's make a rule specifically for one guy And pretend that it's for the whole wiki Well, I mean it is technically for the whole wiki now, but pretend like there's a overarching serious problem when it's really just one dude anyway It's a very common occurrence. They they they tend to overreact to little little problems like oh, we have to stop this from ever becoming a serious problem again mainly it's just This is the way the scp wiki operates. You have to learn to deal with it. 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