 Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to be back here with Coffee Chats with Rise. We've got a really exciting subject for you today. We're going to be talking about the Jenga game of life. All those things that push out of place and how we can plug them back up again. How are you doing, Rise? I'm so happy to be back with you, Catherine. It's been a while since we've been able to film a coffee chat. I apologize to the people watching. I do have a little bit of a fever. Catherine knows this. Monday on Aquarius Rising Africa, I admitted that when my nose runs when I'm at home by myself, I put tampons up my nose. I promise you guys I won't do that. If my words get a little tangled, I do have a little bit of a fever, but that's all good because I'm excited to be back here with you and to talk about this subject. This is such an important subject to talk about. Yeah, I mean, Rise and I, you know, we talk a lot off-camera and everything. And the thing is schedules are really tricky. And also it's going to fit into the topic we're talking about because both of us are constantly doing a lot of our own work. I mean, I've just spent a long weekend at the Conference of Human Consciousness and Evolution, which was amazing with Greg Brady, Brayden, Mary Ann, Williamson, lots of really interesting people there, really good range of thought-provoking consciousness, provoking talks. I've just had to in a flash to stay. You've been doing loads of work. I've been watching all your other stuff and everything. And, you know, what we wanted to really get across with the Jenga game of life is the fact that all of us, wherever we're at, there's always going to be things that push those little wooden blocks out. Just as you're building up, there's going to be things that come along to try and collapse that tower. But there's also so many things, aren't there, Brayden, that we can be doing to put those, plug those gaps in as quick as they appear? Yes. And I was telling you before we signed on that this kind of goes back to a video clip I released a couple of days ago that I really appreciated because he kind of, you know, it's interesting, especially when you're a student, we'll get into the role of the student and all these people are kind of teaching the same theory, but they say it in different ways. And sometimes the way somebody else says it is going to click with someone else versus the way another person says it's the same message, but it's the way it clicks in your mind. And with the Jenga game of life, this is what we kind of signed up for when we took a human experience. You know, I think there's this really kind of, I don't know if it's an ignorant approach or maybe it's just an uninformed approach that at some point in this existence in a human body, we're going to master life. When you master life is when you die. So if you're still in a human body, you're still going to have these Jenga things happening to you and what this is in the way that Eastern philosophy looks at this is even though these little pushes aren't comfortable and they're frustrating, they're necessary because they cause you to have to reground yourself, to have to rethink yourself, to have to re-shift yourself. And it's like those graphs people show and when people think of success, they think of it as just like a straight line up. But real success looks like this, highs and lows, highs and lows, highs and lows. And but for people who are doing the work, they'll tell you sometimes the lowest valleys is where the most work was done and where the most grace and mercy was given and where the potency was. And one of my favorite teachers, Ram Das, who's no longer with us, he used to always say that, when these little obstacles happen, when the Jenga piece gets pushed out instead of freaking out, just go, okay, this now is interesting. This just got interesting. This is the potency. And so if we refocus our view on that, we start to actually appreciate those moments because it helps us grow and expand as a human being because our whole point of being here is for our soul to know itself. And the only way for the soul to know itself is to be challenged. Absolutely. And we see it all the time. And I'm sort of smiling rightly because I can genuinely say, I've reached that stage in life and through the continual self-worth I'm doing that will never stop to the day I pass out of this physical suit into whatever I decide to come into next. Because when these challenges come now, I'm very much like, okay, what's the lesson? What's the lesson? Because I've been through enough of them to realize that if I don't ask that question, seek and answer it, then it's gonna keep coming back in a more extreme form and more extreme form until I do get the lesson. And sometimes as we all know, the lessons are very painful and very hard to learn. And sometimes my ego can get in the way and I can resist, resist, resist. And of course, then it gets stronger and stronger. And I think that this awareness is absolutely key. I mean, I always make a joke to people now that if I'm rude to you, it's a conscious choice. I've chosen to be rude to you. So if I've been rude to you recently, I've chosen to be rude to you. And that might be my issue. It might be me trying to give a lesson, might be all sorts of things. But this awareness is absolutely key because whether it is the air pollution, whether it's the stress, whether it's the intimate relationships, whether it's friendships, whether it's work, whether it's the food choices that you've got. You know, a lot of people, particularly when they're traveling, they find it very difficult to keep their food standards up. There's so many, there's pollution, there's medicines, there's opinions, there's people looking to knock you down, there's financial struggles, there's all sorts of stresses that are pushing those blocks of your life out. And it's so unrealistic, don't you think, Bryce, to expect those blocks. It's not like you ever build your towers, you say, and then it stays there. However beautiful your towers build, there's always going to be something that's gonna come and push a segment out. And you can look at that too, with the, I was just thinking as well about the idea of course correction in life. And sometimes, and this has been my experience through most of my life, the universe, God, whatever you wanna call it, will like tap you on the shoulder and be like, you're going in the wrong direction. You're building in the wrong direction. You're building in the wrong direction and you don't listen. And so it's literally gonna come in and smack you. And so sometimes when these Jenga pieces get pushed out, it's also a renovation. It's also pushing you in a different direction. And I know, and Ram Dass again speaks about this, sometimes we can look back at our life and look at the trajectory of our life and see where these little wobbly places have happened in our life that we thought were just so horrible in the moment. But it put us on a path of that we would never treat for the world now. You know, I look at my, I love what I do now on YouTube. I love doing this job. I love, love, love it. And now I'm branching off and doing more about the yoga stuff, which I didn't start off doing on YouTube. But the only reason why I'm on YouTube is because my shaw was shut down when the lockdown happened. And I was hit with that moment of, oh my God, I've spent all these years going back and forth to India doing all this work, sweat, blood and tear, broken bones, everything. And now just like that, the government came down and took it away. Yeah. So I had to figure out something else. And so I just started doing YouTube and I feel like I had nothing to lose. I could start talking about my political beliefs on YouTube because my business was gone. You know, and now it's given me so many wonderful opportunities. Having you as a friend, having Stephanie, Shanti, Morning, all these people that are now my legitimate friends. Even if YouTube went away today, Catherine would still be a good friend of mine. One of my best friends, like, you know, because we do talk all the time, you know, and so even in that approach, even taking the professionalism out of it, just the life experience that some of these perceived negative Jenga pieces have also afforded you. And in another way, it also forces you to dig deeper within yourself. And I think that's something we have as human beings, we have a really hard time with. We're always looking to the map, we're always looking to the outside of us for our salvation. We're always looking for someone to come save us, for the white hats to save us, for a new financial system to save us. Nothing, none of that's gonna happen until you start to save yourself, until you save yourself. And that's part of, again, why we came to this earth. And if life was easy and if these Jenga pieces didn't get pushed out, we would never have the opportunity to learn how to save ourselves. And how boring would it be? You took a look at the thing, what are we all gonna do? Just look at our lives as a stable column that never moves. Where's the fun in that? No one would actually want to exist like that, even though we say we don't choose things. And I think it's really amazing to keep asking the questions. This is one of the things, you don't know which bit's gonna go out next. You might be able to ask a question or something. And keeping that opening, questioning mind is where we're gonna learn the most. And it's so important because we've got to question ourselves. But there's a couple of things that have come up recently, partly at the conference, weren't you? But partly things that have been coming up for me quite a lot that I've been observing a lot in what's going on around me is do you think, Bryce, that we're really at a time now for people to start taking action? Whether it's for them to say, right, I'm here in my life, these bits have been knocked out. How do I wanna course create? How do I wanna rebuild my Jenga Tower? Do I wanna take a course? Do I wanna do some studying? Do I want to improve my health? What aspect do I want to do? But I've actually now, I've done enough sort of listening. I've now physically got to start doing. I think that that point in time for every individual could be any point of your life where you make that decision. But as far as us globally, I was reading, doing a recording for the Sophia Code and she kind of spoke about this with the transference of the age of Pisces and to the age of Aquarius. And well, what she kind of spoke about is this idea of eminence versus transcendence. And transcendence is kind of the Western world modality that we've been living under spiritually where again, God is outside of us and we're having to somehow achieve and reach God which causes the jealousy, it causes the bitterness, it causes the shame, the anger because we feel like we are without. Where eminence is realizing that God is within us and God is everywhere and how much more freeing that is and liberating it, that is. And I think because we're moving from the age of Pisces and the age of Aquarius, when we go through what's happening right now is just energetically, collectively for everyone, we're going through a metamorphosis and metamorphosis is never going to be comfortable. You think about like a caterpillar cocooning. I'm sure it's not comfortable for the butterfly to bust out of that cocoon but it's necessary. And so I think what's happening now is in a beautiful way, it doesn't feel beautiful for us at the moment, the universe has kind of brought us to our knees and kind of showing that as if we keep reaching outside of ourselves, then we're never gonna get what we want and we're just gonna keep knocking down more and more and more and more. And at some point when that person hits rock bottom is when they have to say, oh my God, it's like the Wizard of Oz or she says, you had the power all along. You had the power within you all along. I heard another teacher say it's like we live in these cages, like a caged bird. And then one day we realized the door to the cage isn't even locked. Exactly, exactly. It's a, yeah, it's that film, isn't it? Oh my goodness, what is it? We'll come to you in a minute. But going back to the butterfly analogy, what you said that was so important and this came up a lot at the weekend as well and what's interesting is when the caterpillar is in the cocoon and converting itself into transforming, alchemyzing itself into the butterfly, there's a battle that goes on. So the caterpillar cells break down and it's like a gooey mix in there and it's resisting. There's resistance, resistance, resistance because the caterpillar cells don't want to, they see it as a dying. What they don't realize is that they're not dying, they're transferring and then there becomes to a tipping point and as you rightly said, everyone's tipping point will be different. There'll be lots of tipping points in your life, et cetera. And then once the caterpillar almost surrenders, it transforms into the butterfly. But what's equally important is if I come along and see a butterfly trying to get out of the cocoon and I break the cocoon open to help it, then the butterfly will never fly because it doesn't develop the strength through that resistance of breaking out of the cocoon. So I might think I'm helping the butterfly and I will put my hand up. This has been a consistent pattern for me and my life of wanting to over help people. And what I realize now through my own development is that, yes, you can absolutely be there to support people when they need it but you cannot do it for them because none of us, no one else can heal my trauma, no one else can make me physically, emotionally, spiritually, stronger, more connected. And these analogies are important because there's so much to learn for all of us in those. When we say, and they are strong in the world a lot, like, for recording, I was talking about the role of the student and I will say, even though I'm an authorized teacher, I'm only a teacher when I'm teaching. The rest of my life, I'm a student. I will always first and foremost, I'm still learning too. The only difference between me and my students is I've just been at this for longer. And so my job is to try to help students avoid mistakes or avoid, you know, or keep them in the path of the practice but there comes a time too where I know that I can't interrupt somebody's karma. And all karma is is work. That's all it is is cause and effect. It's just your work. And so I think we're scared of that word karma in the West but it's nothing to be, I can't interrupt that. I don't know what that person's sole contract is. I can't even remember my own sole contract. So what am I gonna try to control somebody else's? They have to experience, I'm gonna help them as much as I can but at some point I have to let them to have their experiences for themselves because that's what their sole needs to evolve and I can't stand in the way of that. And so that's such a beautiful with the butterfly, it's the same thing. Like, especially in some times, I was just talking about this this morning, we talk about this all the time, before somebody has a breakthrough, it's like that slingshot, they get pulled back. It's like all of a sudden, everything seems to be really falling apart and then all of a sudden, boom, a breakthrough happens. And so when you see that, like somebody's life is just really falling apart and you step in too much, you're gonna stop that forward motion from happening for that person. And the universe works in mysterious ways. And you said all the time, Catherine, I totally agree with you. As we think as human beings, we're so superior to nature, we're not. We're dumbasses compared to nature. You look at this time of year in the Northern Hemisphere, we, autumn is the official term in the United States, you call it fall. And the leaves, it's the most beautiful time of the year because the leaves are changing and the air is clean, but this is the time of year of death. But what's so beautiful is that the trees, the nature, they don't hold on to their leaves because they know and they trust that once winter is over, new leaves will appear. And so they allow the process to happen and in allowing that to happen, it's beautiful. So we can learn from that. I'm sure animals are very similar to that too, where they kind of know, we know that a lot of animals, even domesticated animals, cats in particular, know when they're going to pass away and they'll leave the house and go peacefully. They accept it, and us as humans, we wanna be so ascended, but essentially after we die anyway, but yet we resist death. And so there's so much to learn from these, these little obstacles and just allowing ourselves. You know, I'm a vatsapitta, I have high anxiety, so I understand it when things happen, it's a panic attack. I mean, shoot, I have a panic attack if my dog barks, you know, that's my anxiety coming up. But to be learned how to like just breathe through it and settle into it and allowing everything to play out because that's when you're gonna take the bull by the horn, you're gonna course correct, and you're gonna be leaps and bounds ahead of where you were mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually after the ginga piece has been pushed back in by you. Is that that makes sense? A massively amount of sense. And what I'm loving is in these days, one of the beauties of having the technology for most of us at our fingertips is there's so much support there out there. So when you're noticing that your towel is wobbling, there's so many things you can reach out for. It might be a supplement, it might be a friend, it might be a course, it might be, you know, taking yourself off and nurturing yourself. It can be so many different things, but there's so much support out there that you can reach for as and when you need it and that's going to change at different stages in your life. And I think it is such a cliche. So many of these things come back to the same basic principles, you know, sort of ancient philosophy and applying it to modern times is so important. But when we remind ourselves that we cannot get to where we want to be without the ups and downs of life and it's how we deal with those. Yes, there are some very, very tragic things that happen. I'm not negating that at all. And at the time, we've all been through them, they're incredibly challenging to deal with. But just like you said, sort of with nature, there is a natural cycle to life. Some people are trying to push that forward a bit too quickly and make our autumns come a bit quick. But when you know that, there's so much corrective action you can take as well. And part of the wisdom, I think, and you only get this through experience in my opinion, is to know when to surrender and let go and what's part of natural flow and when to cause correct and take corrective action. Absolutely. And I'm glad you said that there are sources available and I do want to bring up the idea of toxic positivity. So we're not saying like, you have to pretend like everything's fine. It's like that meme with Ross from Friends where he's like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. No, you're allowed to have your moments of being emotional. And yes, when shit happens, shit happens and it sucks and it's hard and it brings you to a point of devastation sometimes. But that and that needs to be understood and to lean into that there. I know a lot of therapists call it leaning into like leaning into that feeling of hopelessness because the only thing that's gonna give you hope, the only thing that's gonna give you power is leaning into the hopelessness, leaning into the feeling of being powerless. No one, my, our friend, Cindy, that you've done videos with too, she said she brought up something really interesting on Sunday cause I teach off camera. We were at her shala and we were talking about the role of suffering because the idea of human suffering is huge in yoga. Like what is human suffering? What is the human condition? Cause we're, that's all we're really just trying to fix in our lives is our own suffering really. But Cindy brought up a good point. You can't have a mystic without suffering because people who don't suffer don't contemplate. Suffering allows you to ask the questions that you need to ask in order to course correct, in order to change your trajectory, in order to heal yourself. If you don't have those moments of suffering, you can't sit there and say why. You can't sit there and say, I don't understand why. And when those questions start to be asked, that's when things start to shift in turn. It's, I know I've said this before, but it's so true. And I think for us as Westerners especially, we have, we live in a society all over the Western world, whether you're American, Canadian, English, Australian, European, whatever. First world country. We are so fortunate in our lives. We live very comfortable lives. We have temporopedic mattresses. Yep, even our animals are living a very different. I hope we're pet, I never use the word pet, but having the luxury to share your life with animals for pure pleasure is really, really important. Isn't it? You know, that is such a gift, you know, because most people wouldn't be able to afford to feed dogs or cats. Exactly. I mean, we know, I mean, Ravi is on cat, I mean, we can do another show about that on the day because Catherine's diet has literally changed my dog's life. And I'm a vegetarian, but my freezer now looks like a serial co-lives in this house. But he has changed his life. But yes, the fact that we can do that, the fact that we live in a world that if we want to change our hair color, we can go change our hair color. The fact that we can give Botox, we live in a world that our ancestors never knew. And that comfort, I think, though, even though I love being a Westerner, I love these comforts, that comfort has kind of numbed us to the truth of pain. And that discomfort is actually valuable. And I have said this story before. David Grieg, my original, who was just here, that's another reason why, because we had David Grieg here in Atlanta. But a long time ago, he said in a conference, because the Ashutanga practice itself is very physically painful, it's supposed to be. And he asked Guruji, is this pain necessary? And Guruji said, yes, because pain is real. It's real. And so when we get to these points in our life, not just physical pain, because when physical pain is just a manifestation of emotional, that's what's real. And that's what's gonna get you asking the questions, the why, the why, and that's what's gonna shift you into that place of mystic, where you start to understand your, the more you understand your soul, the more you understand your suffering, and the more you understand your potential as a human being, the journey you're on, the more you respect others too. The more you see it in others, the more you see the soul of your animal, the soul of the tree. And so if we all collectively started to realize this in this transference of energy anyway, because the whole damn world is uncomfortable right now because we are that caterpillar in that cocoon trying to move into that age of Aquarius from Pisces. And if we all take the opportunity to see these Jenga pieces, to see this friction as something that's interesting and necessary to show us who we really are, the faster we're gonna get through this. The more we accept that we are, we are the White Hats, guys, you are that. You're the star of the show. Yeah. And how resistant it is. So whenever I play Jenga, I'm constantly amazed even how you can pull bits out of the foundation at the bottom and it's still standing. So the thing is, even when you feel you've had your foundation pulled out, and again, I'm saying we all have, you know, we're not negating the real suffering that people, animals, the planet, everything goes through. However, the more we have these tools in our toolkit, the more we share. And I think the other thing that's really come out loud and clear to me is real spiritual development is not looking at yourself in any form of isolation, is looking, how can I be kind? How can I help? How can I contribute? Because we know that I don't think there's a single person that would actually take the time to listen to this today that doesn't understand that everything is connected energetically. So when you, sometimes some of the best things to rebuild your tower can be is to take some of the attention off yourself and put it forward into helping others. And then it's amazing how much resilience that can give yourself. Because there is quite a shift of absolutely, again, not negating put your own oxygen mask on first. You can't love others or give from an empty cart. I completely get that. But I think sometimes this self love, self care can be misinterpreted. You know, it doesn't have to mean not doing anything for anyone else, quite the opposite. So sometimes the most self love you can do is to is actually involved in helping others around you, whether that others is an aloe vera plant or a person or a dog doesn't matter. Well, that's because that karma yoga where you give back and that's, you know, you can be as something as simple as going and working a day in a soup kitchen and passing out food to other people. And there is a human connection is there. And it also, as we kind of talked about this before and I want to bring this up again too. We need an idea of too much self love or too much. We also have to be careful about lionizing people, putting people at that. Something that as a teacher, like when people, I was on you Catherine, people, you know, thank me immensely for say I've changed their life or whatever. And I'm like, no, you did that. You changed your life. I'm just the teacher. I'm just telling you what I've learned and I have my own work to do. And so I want people to be careful about that. Giving too much of their power away to another person. All this information, Catherine, you've said it perfectly. This is ancient information. Catherine and I didn't come up with this. This has been around since the beginning of time. You know, we're just talking about it and having a discussion about it because it's important because, and I hope Catherine you want me saying this, neither one of us have as mastered being human. If you're alive, you still haven't mastered it. As I said, jokingly, when you pass away, then you can say you've mastered it, but if you're still alive in a human body, you haven't mastered it yet. You still got more and more and more and more things to work through. And so I want everybody to understand when we start to lionize teachers or lionize truthers or lionize the white hats even, we can respect people and be grateful that they shared the information, but the work is coming from you and you have to understand that. When the more we start to understand that, the more we take our power back and then we have that ability to then give to others too and pass it along. We always say that in yoga as well, like now you have the responsibility to share it with somebody else. Whether you fully become a teacher or you just share it with your kid or your husband or your friend, now you have the responsibility to pay it forward and start talking about this with other people as well, you know, so that they find their own power, you know? And that's, it's not, it's, but we do kind of live in a narcissistic world where it's either me, me, me, me, me, or them, them, them, them, them, them and it's never just that balance of taking accountability and responsibility for our own path and our own karma and our own Dharma and the only, and the reason why we chose as a soul to come back at this particular time, believe it or not, you chose to be here at this time for a reason and that reason wasn't to have Nisara. That reason was to find your own path back to your soul. Absolutely, hallelujah. And I think, you know, we've had lots of discussions, we've had lots of discussions with other people. So I'm really grateful for those people that are keep pushing those pits of my, my Jenga tower out because I really have learned so much. I've still got a lot to learn. I will always have a lot to learn. I don't ever want to stop learning. I have a very, very low boredom threshold. And what I'm doing is, you know, trying to take the things of learning, listening and then taking some time to integrate and sort of balance and doing those. And it's really, really important to allow yourself the time to actually integrate and do things by trial and error as well, you know. I was gonna, let's, let's hit on that for a little bit before we end what integration actually looks like. Cause I do think that, and I say this on my videos a lot, don't compare your chapter one to somebody else's chapter 10. You know, it's, it's the reason why I teach is because I've been doing it for longer. So therefore I can help guide you. You know, that's, it's just because I've been doing it for longer. The integration process is so important. And so when you first learn something or you first conceive a new idea, the universe doesn't expect you to act on that right away. It takes time for it to integrate into you for you to start to really start practicing it. So I want everybody to be like patient with themselves. When they're learning this, you're gonna, you're gonna fuck up, you're gonna make mistakes. You're gonna go back to your habits. You catch it though, you understand it now. And then you don't beat yourself up. But it's almost like if you look at the physical body, I mean, if you decided today, Catherine, that you wanted to go run a marathon, would you just go run a marathon or would you take a few months to train for it, to integrate the pattern of running into your physical body? It's the same things spiritually, mentally and emotionally too. You have to have those moments of training to mess up, to, to accidentally, you know, blow up one day instead of actually pull it in and work on yourself and go, oops, you know, you have to have those moments for this philosophy, for this practice to actually come into fruition into your life. And I still, 16 years later, I've been doing this. I still fuck up. I still don't know about it. You know, I work, my main, people might think this is my main, but my main work is as a teacher and also working one-on-one with clients, with human clients and their animals. And not always, you know, sometimes I'm just working with humans, sometimes when I'm working, they get me into work with the animals, but of course it's the human that you're working with because they're the decision maker. And I absolutely love it. Every single day I'm learning new things. Every single one of my animals teaches me something more. Every single interaction I have with someone, you know, whether it's on a personal thing or listening or attending or learning from someone else, it's all a learning lesson. And sometimes I'm a bit slow at taking those lessons on board and when I'm a bit slow, then the lessons get stronger and stronger until I do. But that's okay. And I think, you know, probably my biggest message for anyone who's watching this today is first and foremost, thank you. Secondly, please let us know below where you're at and what you're learning and share it because you can guarantee if there's something that's working for you that someone else is gonna find that helpful. And I think for me, the biggest thing is not comparing what you were saying. You know, do not compare yourself to other people because there's a reason we're all meant to be going through things at different times. Imagine if every single person was having their low at the same time. The world wouldn't be able to function. So there's a reason that when you're having your low, some people around you will be having their highs and then because they're having their highs, they will be able to be in an energetic position to help and support you. And then it will be reversed. And when you're having your highs, you'll be energetically and physically in whatever way helping others around you. And that's the way it's meant to be. We're not all meant to be at the low point at the same time. It would be an absolute disaster. And that is what the powers above are trying to do is trying to make us all have our low point at the same time. But no, they're not gonna... No, I'm so glad you brought that up because it's so important. I do have to say, I wanna give a shout out to all. I've forgotten so many emails from subscribers or I feel like a douchebag calling people subscribers because Catherine and I are just normal people or just we're like you, we're normal people. We're not celebrities, we're not, we're just, that's why we have discussions when we're like talking with you guys because we're all doing this together. But I've gotten so many emails from people who are starting to get up now at four o'clock in the morning doing their exercises. And I have to tell you the amount of emails I've gotten from people that are doing that that never done it before, they're telling me how it's affecting them. You're a badass. If you're just attempting to do this, even though it feels overwhelming, I wanna give you a round of applause because that takes a lot of gumption. It takes a lot of moxie. It takes a lot of strength and willpower to actually make that shift. Whatever that is, whether it is getting up at Brahma Mordta to exercise or whether it's doing breathing classes or starting meditation or whatever it is. The powers. Yeah, the fact that you're gonna kickboxing class like Catherine was in whatever that is that's putting you out of that comfort zone to challenge you to start to work on yourself, gold medal, like just the fact that you're doing it is enough to start that shifting process to pull those blocks back in and to take your power back and to find out who you really are and what you're really made up. So that's awesome. I'm just so grateful that people are doing it because that's amazing. All right, 100% please. So let us know below what you're doing and there's no, don't judge it as big or small. You know, really don't. Anything, what new habits, what new things are you starting to put into your life? And please, please share them because I guarantee every person that shares something, what they're doing and you can share your struggles as well as your successes. You will inspire someone else that sees this just give something a go. And that's all it needs. Take their first step, give it a go. Thank you so much, Bice. I love that as always. I think we'll be hopefully schedules permitting. We will be back next week. Yeah, an amazing, an amazing week everyone. Bye guys. Bye.