 the night that Diddy tried to sign me because it was a show with Biggie. We shit that down. That was the time when Diddy was hot. What made you not make that move? You would've been the first one of the first ones. But didn't you see the car? You just say, didn't you see the car I was in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We was getting bread. I had in the soul, I had already in the soul, 100,000 in the pen. You didn't want to go sign with nobody. We was getting 70,000 dollars a day. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. How did you end up linking with DJ Screw? How did y'all end up? Me? When I first moved to the 8th, right? My homeboy, Biggie, R.P. Biggie. Kid in the green slant, one of the ones in the slab line, way back then. They were just him and Kiwi, them used to all be jamming screw tapes. So one day I was just like, man, take me over there. You feel me? So the Botany Boys is who I wind up going over there with to make our first tape. And me and when me and Screw met, it was just so jammed. Cause I DJ'd ever since the kid. So we used to be in that ball and DJ and the shit. You know what I'm saying? Then we just got super motherfucking close. You feel what I'm saying? I'm talking about super close. So people would be in there like freestyle and like, man, hmm, da, da, da. I go on that. I go on that with all that. Like Michael Johnson, I be dumping for your go-to. Peter Rofu, baby. He's like, God damn, nigga, you coming over here to really rap. You feel what I'm saying? So we just got so, so goddamn cool, man. It was, you know what I'm saying? It was just mad native, bro. Yeah. So, so, and how, how was he when, when it's very, how, how would he have been? If I was, if I was like 19, 20, he older than me by like three, four years. Yeah. So, you know, he DJ'd tonight. That did it. Try to sign me cause it was a show with Biggie. We shit that down. That was the time when it was hot. What made you not make that move? You would have been the first one of the first ones. But didn't you see the car? You just say, didn't you see the car I was in? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We was, we was getting bread. I had in the soul. I had already in the soul. A hundred times in the pen. You didn't want to go signed with nobody. We was getting seven, eight dollars a tape. Was that a tape? That's what, I know when I interviewed little Kiki, he was like, cause I, I tried to compare. I was like, man, what the heck did you see in UGK? He was like, man, they had a real tape. They were bigger than us. It's not what I mean by bigger than us. I used to look up to them for this. They got a real tape. See, see, uh, rapping, talking about a tape and having a real tape was too different. You know what I'm saying? See, it wasn't about money for me back then. And they got a real tape. I want a tape. I want one. Man, you can go to Soundwave and buy a tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want that. Music, it was some music, some music, some music. Music, uh, Soundwave. Yeah, yeah. And Music Assets, Soundwave, Music City. Hey, listen, big music. I was like, hey listen. Yeah, you can go buy it. This was serious. You know, this was real. Man, we go in the screwhouse and we got a cassette that you can, you know, ride on. They got a real tape. You can go to the store and get it. Yeah, I don't know. How much money they making out of it? I don't care. I know that people just don't mind, man. They ought, you know, packing for the store. So, so the thing about it, man, is we, we come like, I think man, how we all suffered because we wasn't, had the assets to the bigger thing. We really out the mud. We really, people thinking this cleave, man. We out the trunking for real, you know what I'm saying? We really doing it like this. So I admire them as far as what they've done. It didn't matter if they was with Jive or whatever, they was just learning the game. They could have been much, much bigger, but you gotta understand we coming from a situation of, of they trying to learn the business. They didn't came from being with big time records. And now they over here with Jive. They doing this here. And a lot of times, man, these companies always tried to come change you. You remember, you seen that? It was like they had a real, they had a real situation. You know what I'm saying? Like they had signed. Yeah, they had signed. So they looked a little different on the shelf. Yeah, yeah, you feel it, you feel it, you feel it. And by me, man, I was just so loyal. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? You know, my OGs had, you know, blessed men was breaking their neck to do this and do that. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then when we got, when I knew Swank and Bang was out the, was a hit and through the roof was the cap of Beast's part of that year. Ooh, man. Every car past me was playing Swank and Bang. That was 94? Yeah, like 94. Every car. Every car. I was like, damn, damn. Then next thing I know, it every time the radio come on. That whole jumping. It jumped. Yeah, I was playing it. I know it was jumping. I know I had to get that, man. That was like drugs, I had to have it. You know what I'm saying? A little bomb body to the crib. Oh yeah? Oh yeah. What was that day like when y'all heard he say it's a little cap from Louisiana. ESG, jam man. Yeah, you know, I know that's real. Like boom, I doubt. But I got a video. I got different clips on my new album that's finna come out. I got everybody on there. Boom, I even got pimp singing on the hook. You feel what I'm saying? Scarface got a bad motherfucker on him. Zero, you know, ain't everybody on there. When that coming? In like two more months. Ooh. Yeah. It's called South Side to Hell and it's the red tape. Then after that, I got the blue tape. But there's a clip that I use and Bun is Bun is interviewing me somewhere. Okay. And he walk up and he say, now this is the man right here. This the man right here. ESG, what's up baby? What's up Mr. Swing and the Bane? The emotion that's in his eyes for him to say, this the man right here. Yeah, he was excited. He was feeling that. He was feeling excited. Because you gotta realize we was, when I was in Port Arthur, it wasn't too many, you know, I always talk about it. It wasn't too many rappers out back then. Yeah, yeah. It was different. To hear somebody new come out, it was refreshing. That boy was jamming. Boy, that ocean of funk. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I got Clips. That ocean of funk with Horde. I got Clips with Bun talking. I got Clips with Drake talking. I got Clips with Travis Scott talking. All these different people just talking about me at different times. So that is like intro to the songs on there. I got a song with my dog Big Hood from Dallas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, that's a monster. You going in? No, you going in. So, yeah, we on Boss Talk 101.