 All right, well, thank you so much everyone for joining us today at our Friday plenary the last day of open ed. I can't believe we are already at the end. It feels like it totally flew by. So hope everyone was enjoying themselves this week. We wanted to close out the conference with a more interactive and social sort of plenary session to kind of book and what we did at the beginning of the conference. So at the beginning of the conference we had a bit of an interactive discussion about what is open education mean to you. So now that we've been through the session or been through the conference and are at the end, we want to book in that with a little bit of a discussion between you know members of the organizing committee about what is the future of open education. And I'm realizing I haven't introduced myself yet my name is Haley Bab I'm an open education coordinator with spark. And I've been on the conference team, doing some of the help with organizing so far. Today I have Daniel Williamson and Nicole Allen, who are also members of the organizing committee who are going to chat with us first and foremost a little bit about how we got here. What has the process been like for the organizing committee over the past year, since we've, you know, sort of agreed to take on the organizing. So we make the decisions that you know brought us to where we are today at the conference. So after a little bit of background or Emily Reagan and I who's also a member of the steering committee Hello Emily are going to lead us to some mentor questions to sort of prompt you to tell us a little bit about what your experience has been like and to sort of get you thinking about some feedback for both next year's conference and some long term planning. So I realized that not everybody at the conference can be with us today. But we want to make sure that we hear from everyone. So we are after the session and in the days following the conference going to be sending out sort of a more comprehensive survey, where we'll be asking everyone to please share with us. You know, their thoughts about how things went, what we can be doing to improve for next year. But also, you know what we can be thinking about as we go into the long term strategic planning process of the conference. So today is meant to be sort of a little bit of a taste of that survey. We realized that you know after the conference is done, you go out and you usually, you know our by yourself when you're filling out that survey, but we wanted to host as much as we can, you know without being able to meet in person, a community discussion about this topic, and give folks an opportunity to interact with each other about these topics which are really really important. I'm going to lead you through some mentor questions we are going to be breaking into some breakout rooms. And at that point, you will be in a room with a conference volunteer who's going to be sort of leading your discussion. And we're hoping that this can be sort of a two fold approach. One is to, you know, have a discussion about the future of the open education conference but also to use this as an opportunity to continue to build connections of one another. So when you're in these breakout rooms, please do be sure that you're introducing yourself, sharing a little bit about yourself and and how you came to be at the open education conference. And then share your thoughts, your, your conference volunteer is going to be taking notes throughout the breakout room session so just be aware of that. It won't be identifying nor will our mentor questions be identifying as well. So please do share, you know whatever you are comfortable with. We're hoping to stay for the breakout discussions for as long or as short as like we'll keep them open until the end of the plenary session. But if you feel like you've gotten out everything you have to say, you know, you're welcome to take a little bit of an extended break, but the door is open for you to have that discussion. So that's a bit of an overview of what we're going to be doing today. Nicole Emily Daniel anything else I should mention before we get started. Okay, great. Well, at this time, I guess I'll hand it over to Nicole and Daniel, and they're going to tell us a little bit about what the past year has been like for us as an organizing committee, and what to expect in the future. Sure thing. So, good, good morning good afternoon good evening everybody. I'm Nicole Allen director of open education for spark and as a member of the steering committee and sort of the operations lead for the conference. I'm going to work with Daniel the fiscal and legal lead for the conference to tell the story a little bit of how this all came to be. It's so exciting to see on Monday at the opening plenary session that when we asked the question of how many times participants had attended the open education conference the overwhelming the majority of people are attending for the first time. And I think you know some of those people are maybe completely new to open education or the open education meant, or perhaps are have been working on these issues for a long time, but had never been able to go to the open education because of the cost of attendance and being able to travel or, you know, even the fact that it's, it's held in a specific country that and not being able to cross the border to actually get there. So, I think that that was really telling to me just just how large the broader open education community is. And when we're thinking about something that's called the open education conference. What does that mean. So, I guess, starting at the beginning, the history of this conference. It was the first year it was organized was 2003 was organized by David Wiley, and for the last 16 years. He was the organizer, and at open ed 19 in Phoenix, he announced on the first day of the conference that he would not be organizing the conference in the future. And that announcement left space for the community to be able to step up and have conversations about, you know, what what this conference should be in the future. So, I guess the story of this year's conference began at that announcement, when there were a lot of questions going around the room about, you know, what what will next year look like and who will step up and, and who will be involved and and how do we do it in a way that incorporates the community that this conference, you know is isn't is perhaps intended to serve or seeks to serve. So, actually right at the conference, a group of people who were there held a meeting to talk about some some of the bigger questions and in fact, some of the questions that were still going to be discussing later today. And what came out of that conversation was sort of a recognition that there was sort of a clean slate and there needed to be an open call for participation. So that's what happened. A group of community members got together and wrote up an open call for people who are interested in helping to organize the conference for next year to step forward. And 300 responses came into that form, and it was actually all open so it's still out there. And it was exciting to see sort of the momentum around that. So it definitely what it what it says is, is that, you know, they're definitely needed to be a conference this year but the question was, you know, who's going to organize it, and, and how is that organizing process going to look. Four of the organizations that responded to that form are the four organizations that ended up stepping forward to run the conference today. So those organizations are Spark, my organization, which is the operations lead for the conference open stacks, which took on the legal and fiscal responsibility for the conference and that was really important because at the time we were thinking about this is an in person conference where you have to sign a you know a huge contract with a hotel to secure the space and take on a large amount of risk. And then our third and fourth partner are the Colorado Department of higher as we are counsel, which is going to be the local host in 2020, and perhaps wasn't the local host, but was, you know, the Colorado team was heavily involved in organizing and running this year's conference, and then the University System of Maryland, their current center step forward to be the hosts for the 2021 conference. So our four organizations got together and put together a proposal, and the proposal was it for a two year transition plan, where we agreed to come together and put forward our organizational resources to organize the conference in 2020 and 2021 in order to provide space and time for the community to have the important conversations about what does this conference need to be, you know, who does it serve and what what needs are there that a conference like this can meet. So that's what we've been doing. We put out the proposal for endorsement and over 100 community members and a dozen or so organizations endorsed it so so we move forward and, and this was all in January. So that's where I think Daniel is going to pick up on the story. So let me say it's been just an incredible honor to be able to help this community. And I know all the orgs that stepped up to help organize. We feel a great trust from the community to be able to do this so thank you so much for that. And from the very beginning though, all of our organization said this is not for our organizations this is for the community. The biggest, the biggest goal that we had was to start working together to allow space for new leaders to step up. Not just have the existing old guard there, preserving what was but really thinking about how do we reinvent the open education community. And so we put out an open call for steering committee members, the organizing partners, the four that Nicole just mentioned came together and selected the first few members I think there are first four members of that. The steering committee and then we went and worked through the applications to form the full steering committee which you can see on the open stack or opens open education conference.org site. We then worked really closely with the steering committee to start planning what the conference would look like and as Nicole mentioned back then we were thinking that this was going to be an in person conference so we got super busy luckily because finding a venue that could support 1000 person conference within a year is not an easy feat. In fact, we had no idea what we were going to be able to be up against. Luckily, we were able to find luckily I should put that in quotes. Luckily, we were able to find a venue and sign the contract in fact Nicole and I were sitting at the, the Phoenix. Conference but the, the, the mayor Arizona, Arizona, Arizona conference, feverishly going through the contract and signing at the same time I'm saying to her, you know, have you ever heard about this coronavirus thing this COVID-19 thing have you got your mask yet. And she was saying you're crazy there's nothing nothing's going to happen. And so, we signed the contract. And then as everybody knows the pandemic happen. We started having this a discussion about whether or not to continue to plan to hold an in person conference, weighing the cost to cancel the venue that we had just signed a big contract with, or whether we should write it out and see if the pandemic would pass, or whether we should just pause and and make this a virtual conference. Ultimately, though, falling back on a core value that we've had as the the steering committee is to listen. And so falling back on this core value of listening, we decided not to move to, not to maintain an in person conference but to move to a fully online conference, because the community was telling us that that was what was needed. We were not attending an in person conference this year, even if we were able to travel, you know, without legal implications or risk to our health was probably going to pose it too large of a financial burden for most. From there, we zeroed in on having an amazing online conference we pulled together just tons and tons of teams, the steering committee put out another call for volunteers formed five different teams the program committee the online committee the communications committee dedicated diversity equity inclusion community, as well as the future of open ed committee. And all of these teams did just absolutely amazing work I think Nicole it was something like what 300 400 people that were volunteering something some crazy number. Depending on how you count it and how good I am at deduplicating yes. It's just been amazing to see the community coming together to truly govern and build this conference, and I'm sure it's a week we've all enjoyed. And now we kind of turn our look to what happens after this. Nicole. Sorry, I muted myself and I'm searching for the unmute button. So, as we start thinking about sort of what's what's next for the conference, as we head into 2021, there are going to be sort of parallel processes happening. So, one is that we are of course going to continue thinking about or continue forward on planning the 2021 conference and are going to be seeking new members of planning teams and new new people to be involved in helping to shape that and hopefully, including new voices and helping to build on the momentum that that's here. And also, alongside that engaging in a strategic planning process, where we will figure out what the future is going to be because our organizations, the four of us have agreed to sign on for for two years. And that expires at the end of 2021 and our goal is truly to be able to hand this off to community governed process. And I think there are a lot of questions about what that should and can look like. And that's one of the reasons that we chose reimagining open education is the theme for this year, because it is going to take a reimagining of what convenings are and and that's meant in a very literal sense, because of all of the different ways that that we're interacting with us and in the likely long lasting changes that the pandemic is likely to have and how we communicate with each other and how we can but also in thinking about as the open education community continues to grow what that future can be. I think it's important that this not just become another conference owned and managed by a single entity, but rather something that is truly governed and supported by the community it serves. There is still a lot of questions there's still a lot that needs to be figured out to successfully transition the ownership, if you will, of this conference over to a fully community community governed approach. A lot of the questions that come to my mind as someone who's very centered on operations and even finance and legal stuff is so who takes responsibility who owns that who's a member who's not a member. These are hard questions that our community needs to grapple with to really figure out how we handle that sort of transition. And so we want to hear your feedback today about the transition about what it should look like, and what we should keep in mind for next year's conference and ensure you know what is the future of the open ed conference. And I think that's exactly where Emily and Haley are going to sort of start getting us primed for with a few Mentimeter. Yeah, thanks, Nicole and Daniel that's really fantastic background to have and a great primer for us going into our Mentimeter exercise today. Yeah, so Emily if you would be or Nicole, if one of you would be able to get us going in Mentimeter that would be fantastic. We good. Yeah, so we'll just start right at the first question. That's okay. Awesome. Okay, so I'm sure many of you are now very familiar with Mentimeter. We've been using it a lot in some of our activities but if you're not here are some instructions for getting set up. I'm also going to post a direct link in the chat as well if that helps. We find that it's best if you access Mentimeter either from a separate browser or device to be able to participate fully. Mentimeter is going to be a, you know, we would like to have as much participation as possible so we, I'm going to give it a minute to make sure that everybody's fully set up before we move along. And just a reminder as well. Mentimeter does provide like a good level of anonymity. We are certainly not going to be going back, you know, into the answers and doing anything to identify folks. Bear in mind, you know, your own privacy and what you're comfortable with in terms of answering questions. Yeah, and while people are setting up I know that we have Spencer Spencer and MJ are here from Colorado and Maryland and you know after what Daniel and I said, maybe if there's anything either of you would like to add to the story or just thinking about as we head into next year and anything that that folks here should should hear. I think just along the lines of the story it's just part of the story is just everybody involved and I you had put in the in the chat the committee members. And that was just such a, you know, organic way of this happening of this conference coming together and so for me it was really inspiring and I know in Colorado we were, we were soaking a lot of enthusiasm and when I scroll through there and I see the number of volunteers from Colorado from people who are doing, you know, reviews to moderating sessions to leading different committees just like it's it's exactly kind of the essence of what I, I thought this involvement would be and so it's really exciting that you know despite the challenges I mentioned we were still able to embrace that and still feel like we're contributing in a way so we're really grateful for that and I'm excited to see kind of the outcomes of today and you know next year with Marilyn involved and and kind of what what people have to say what's on their minds after a week full of content this week and you know what what we can do in the future. Yeah, and I would just add, I said it yesterday during one of the tea times that we have big shoes to fill here in Maryland following Colorado's lead and we're looking forward to hosting next year and whatever format that may end up taking and building on the momentum and the good work that's happened so far this year. I, I, I continue to marvel Nicole that with Sparks leadership and this great program team that this call all came together as quickly as it did and it's you know it's not just that it was patched together I mean this has been a really good very interactive conference in an entirely new format that nobody really was prepared for even, you know, eight months ago so congratulations. Yeah, but we keep using the phrase that it took a village and we will and in our closing session in an hour and a half be making sure to recognize all of the individuals who are involved as well so so we'll, we'll make sure to also go through all that again. Thanks so much for next year your vision Nicole for having it in Maryland in 2021 was around being close to DC so figuring out how we still capitalize on our locale to engage some policymakers in a bigger way will be an interesting challenge for us if we're still in this format. Well, and one of the exciting things so I was in it for an open ad lobby day like we did in 2014. When the conference was in in Arlington but the thing is that actually with over the past nine months advocacy has moved largely virtual, which I think is a really exciting and at least in the US context of democratizing the way to be able to engage in lobbying and advocacy that you know you don't need to fly to Washington DC and sit down with people in order to get access to them. So, yeah, it's exciting. All right. Okay, well maybe we're ready for some questions. So we're warming up gently. We have just some fun little pictures. And what are you planning to do this weekend. Maybe you want multiple things I think we're limited to just one one option here. I'm hoping to do multiple. And I think we'll have to allow the results to show here. Okay I see a lot of us have some work catch up. Definitely that's part of my upcoming weekend. I think that sounds fantastic. And something fun. I want to do some happy dances. I honestly want to watch a movie to that's coming coming in the rear here but I want to be that floating hedgehog. Well, if you're looking for something to watch there's over 100 hours of recording from this conference. I think they're coming in behind. We've kind of been sitting in front of a screen. Fantastic. Okay, well good. I think we can move on. Awesome. Yeah, so I'll just give a little bit of an introduction. So we're, when we're going through our feedback today we've kind of split it into two categories. Firstly, we want to talk about how this conference went what's your immediate feedback for what we could be doing better for next year what went well this year what can we improve upon. And then later on after we ask a couple questions on this topic, we'll be starting to think more big picture about the strategic planning process for 2021 and beyond. So just keep that in mind as we go through the next next few set of questions. And using only one word what's been your biggest takeaway from the conference community. Awesome I love that communities in the middle. Inspiration, diversity, equity. Collaboration is up there. I just love these word clouds. I love it. So much good stuff. This is great and it's still growing community staying strong at the middle. That's fantastic. Oh, this is so wonderful. I see joy in there. Care. Another big one. Pedagogy. Knowledge. Oh, this is so nice. Super powerful. Thanks everyone. Hope. Yeah, some of those keywords staying nice and big in the middle community equity inspiration inclusion. Love that student led. Love it. Yes. And togetherness, despite the virtual nature there's really been a sense of togetherness in that community that's right there in the center. Amazing. Great well thank you so much everyone this is really good data. Okay, I missed the among us. There's always. Let's see well so let's move on perhaps to our next question which will let you have a little bit of a longer response. And this is specifically what is something that you learned at this year's conference that you will apply in the future. Advocacy advocacy that's great. Nice. I want to speak up about social justice. Just absorbing cross institutional partnerships consent for open. That's huge. Data privacy and working with students and advocacy work. I'll see someone hoping to be a part of the committee next year that's fantastic. And I hope this, if you're feeling inspired, we'll have some, some actionables for you at the end to sign up for more updates, progressive stacking. So so many places the technical pieces, you know, assignments, but then also social justice I feel like we've held so much here so many different perspectives, not alone and anti racist work. And pedagogy, and then also copyright. Fantastic answers. Well I know we have a few solid amount of questions lined up today so we unfortunately won't get to read everyone's responses but we'll certainly be going through it later and making sure that we incorporate as much as we can into our feedback. Next question what's something that you felt like was missing from the conference or that you would want more of in the future students yes. Conference muffins. Hugs all wasn't in the budget. There's muffins that hug. Multiple hugs. Oh my gosh, all the hugs on here and then, you know, the yoga. I know this isn't on here but we need an hour for yoga next time. That went with the health related sessions. Oh friends, it was wonderful, more of this. Lightning talks hard to engage with that's good feedback we want, we want all the feedback. Let us know if there's stuff that we can improve. More time. Nicole, can you share the time turner with the rest of us. I fortunately I do not have that technology, because this conference would have turned me 70. swag. Yeah two notes for swag I saw Tiffany had the link for swag in the chat. It's not a complimentary swag so that I know that it's not quite well swag is paid for one way or another structured networking for introverts. I'm really interested in what that looks like. What spiral journal count as structured networking for introverts do you think that again. What spiral journal count as structured networking for introverts. I think so. Yeah. So that's coming up later today right. Yep, it was finished like 1130 just before. We already had it okay I have time zone issues. I'm reading that we've had so many lovely different ways to connect right from that networking session on the first day, who these awesome facilitated tea times. Let's see some more midday yoga. Oh, PK 12 sessions. Absolutely. It could use growth. Yes, absolutely. It was hard to fit in lunch and the self care that we need because of our FOMO, absolutely, and more international perspectives stuff for beginners who have no support or money at their institution. A really welcoming on ramp I agree. Great. Well this is really good feedback, and I can't wait to go through all the answers afterwards. Let's move on to the next one. So how satisfied were you with this year's conference in terms of the amount of programming we had the diversity of programming and sort of the general accessibility of programming. So this is a sliding scale, but we'll have a comment box for some more detailed feedback afterwards. The amount of programming and leading. This was a full conference. There's really no doubt about that we packed it in. Awesome. This is good information. Thanks everyone for sharing your answers. Yes, it might be good to move to our next question. Yeah, so anything else you want to share about your experience at open ed 20. And well, I'm not sure how long this particular mentee poll will remain open we do have surveys that will be sending out so you really will have another chance to share this type of information. Yeah, so just in case anyone's joining late this is sort of a sampler of what we're going to be sending out in our survey. So you will have an opportunity to sort of sit and formulate your thoughts a little bit more and give us some more constructive feedback. But for the purposes of today we just wanted to, you know, do our best to facilitate a community conversation about this as best we can in a virtual setting. So thanks for being here with us and being willing to partake in that conversation. Yes, and a lot of support for the virtual format. Someone says please keep it digital. First conference wear shoes. Someone says highlight of my term as a student government rep that makes me so happy. Yeah, and I love Regina's energy to those of you who were at the Kara oi or oki last night. Oh, it was amazing. So next year you know you got to go make time for that person who just put that with four blue hearts. Thank you. Thank you. Awesome. Yeah, thank you in the chat. That's great. I know we still have quite a lot of questions to go through so maybe we'll move forward, you know, just for the purpose of trying to get through them all. But thank you so much for for giving us your feedback. All right, so that's, that's sort of it for now on on last year's conference and now we kind of want you to transition you're thinking into more of a long term vision for what this what we want this conference to look like in the future. So what. Oh, go ahead Emily. I was just gonna say recognizing that there's so many different components of our open education community and we might even say multiple open education communities that are coming together at this conference we're wanting to know what you consider the open education community. And we see a lot of everyone. We want everyone. I love it. Yeah, so we're very inclusive with who we are including in our open education community. That's great people and passion for a better world I love that. Now this is a hard question to answer educators and learners, everyone. We're grad students that's a good point. Focusing broadly international indigenous views. I was a awesome set of plenary sessions yesterday. I just felt like my perspective was really widened. Awesome. Okay, well thank you. We'll hop to the next question great. Moving off of that first question who's often left out of the broader open education community that we should more intentionally include students students. That is actually the president of my institutions like tagline students students students that's what it's all about. Public librarians, K 12 folks, grad students, as well as just students generally, general public. And in the chat that says folks outside the virtual world. Lots of support for students. Absolutely instructors and faculty. That's great. So library information science students. Yes. Okay, well thank you. And I think we can probably move on adjuncts. Yes, it's another probably ready for the next slide. I just want to say the black indigenous people perspectives as well. That's when we hadn't marginalized creators not just marginalized users, oh and people in local government, maybe state legislators. People of color not in academia. Okay. Students with disabilities. Yeah, so, wow, this is great. Senior level university administrators, early education educators. Okay, this is, I know this is fantastic so I know we need to move on. No this is good good information. Yeah and inviting people involved in policy perhaps even to attend the conference for free next year that's an interesting idea. And I mean one really big takeaway is the students, the students piece and that's where we're going to have to put a lot of our thought and intentionality I think as we plan for next year. Are we ready to move on. I think so yes. Great. Okay, so to what extent do you believe that diversity equity and inclusion should be at the center of the future of open issues education conference interested to see. We may have a malfunction. Oh my gosh, let's, let's move on. Apologies for that. Awesome. So we get a lot of comments in the chat for completely at the center that's great. 100%. Yes, all in caps, big emphasis. Definitely centered. I think that's a lot of comments that infused I can see in the zoom discussion. Yeah infused throughout. I saw is there a 1000% option. This is great. Well I know Nicole's trying to troubleshoot. We're currently experiencing technical difficulties please hold. I'm glad you all still have the chat so that our conversation is continuing to move forward. The chat has been very informative and so Nicole worst case scenario is that we could move on to the next question I think we do have some data here. We've got a pretty resounding one comment possibly reframe this work towards a more anti oppressive framework that talks about barriers and ways to break through those barriers. Okay, so we're going to see if this works. I'm not sure that it's working for me. Okay, well, okay. So I think we're moving on to the next question but thank you all for, for giving us a feedback in the chat and apologies for. Oh is it working now, need it. I guess Nicole you could check and getting we already voted because we did submit us time when we weren't allowed to vote. So I guess maybe some people might be able to. Okay. Yeah, maybe that's my problem as well. Okay, well, let us move on then. Yeah, I am sorry I think we need to move on and apologies for this. Right. Okay, so now shifting to the idea of governance. What do you think the new community led governance model should look like. And then we're clear that EDI or DEI however we want to say it is to be foregrounded. So as far as community government governance de centered and distributed shared led by EDI leaders student representatives and affordable individual membership, Haley I'll let you have a turn. Yeah, diverse in all areas ages races sexualities etc flexible a flexible model of governance. More diverse committee diverse participation roles involved decentralized but highly organized. More outside voices some people are doing the heavy lift. Good feedback. How about spitting up a nonprofit to do the legal stuff. As flat hierarchically as possible. I did board with short terms. I have no idea. And the question stresses me out at me to governance. Yeah, that's yes decolonized. Small shared. All stakeholders older groups should be represented community with reps at different levels. Talk to ha OER. Accessible rotating chair. Calling out librarians faculty policymakers students, someone pointing out someone has to lead. Right this is really good feedback. And these are the sorts of questions that will be, you know, starting to dive into more thoroughly. Now that we've been through this conference and as we prepare for next years. Great. Okay, I think this is a good, good overview. We'll look through these results and more detail later as well. So thank you. Transparent. Yeah, meaningful student involvement. Yeah, some notes on compensation. More chances for input throughout the year that's good. Oh, okay, I think this is a good taste. Yeah, how do you feel about implementing a membership based model of governance to who might be members what are your first reactions to this idea. So we've got divergent viewpoints right off the bat sure add structure versus no can be exclusionary leaves too many out. So we've got some interest and some discomfort. Still lots of questions, you know, around like what exactly this looks like. I don't know what the answers. We just want to know what are the initial reactions to this idea. So it looks like some pros and some cons. And the money, the money is an issue, could it be a sliding scale, could there be free memberships. Is it exclusionary people are asking no barriers. Very good to know confusion about what this would entail. We just needed for sustainability versus gut negative feeling so we're, this is definitely an area where there's not a clear consensus about about this particular prompt which is membership based model of governance. Yeah. Worried about worried about who's in and who's out. Right. Thanks everyone. Lots of questions with that one. Thank you. Let's move on to the next one. So another, another interesting question we want to gauge your reaction on one of the ways that we can keep costs low for attendees is by accepting donations and sponsorships who what should be considered in a donation sponsorship policy transparency, no strings attached openness. Code of ethics, no publishers period. Looks like the leading team. Unitar is someone want to fill me in. I don't know either. Consider what donor expects in return donations without strings. Transparency has shown up several times. And then question in chat, what do people consider transparency in this context, kind of the care framework. Ensuring sponsorship doesn't impact programming. Sponsorship does not. Oh, sorry, Emily sponsorship does not equal endorsements. We both saw that one right away. No open one washing. We're just on the same wavelength here. You can tell we've been hosting the late show every night you can tell where we're telepathically connected today. Sponsors should allow all materials to be licensed openly. ethical business practices. Good. This is, this is great feedback for going forward. Another theme is no strings attached. So we don't want sponsorship to be driving what the conference is. We, it sounds like people still want that community driven aspect. Yeah, not taking away space from underrepresented groups. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I think this is good. Thanks all. That looks like Unitar was United Nations Institute for training and research so thank you. What do you think should be the future of the open education conference. Emily, do you want to take the first crack at this one. Well, it looks like online and virtual. We're right out of the gate. They're, they're leading early in this conversation. We have EDI and care centered, perhaps a hybrid of face to face and virtual. I don't think it should be virtual only. So one way to to consider that maybe would be different years, you know, virtual years versus occasional in person years. A mixed mode. So thinking about thinking about how a mixed mode could work what are ways that might work. I'm more experienced than just we are people. Always community led. Well, I can say I'm very thankful that we were able to pull off a virtual conference and that people are feeling positively, you know, have positive feelings about this virtual format after a week of doing this together because it wasn't our original version, multiple virtual pleases. Keep it going. I like that. I'm glad there's momentum for continuing to move forward. Love it. Students. Cool. We have arrived. I love that. Cool. Thanks all. This is great. Okay, but I think we can move to the next question. Yeah, I think that might be it. That's all. Okay, thanks folks. That's it for Mentimeter. Emily anything you want to say before we move on to sort of the next next aspect of this. I just want to thank everyone for engaging with us through Mentimeter and in the spirit of continuing to build and enhance this community and the connections that we're making, as well as continuing this conversation of looking to the future. We're hoping many of you will join us for some breakout conversations now. And I know. Not everybody loves breakout rooms. I'm someone who really appreciates having the chance to connect with a smaller group of people and I think that's been an important part of allowing us to make these connections that we have been making successfully virtually this year. Perfect. Yeah, so at this point, I'll just sort of talk about you know what you can expect for the last about half hour of the session. So we're going to break out into smaller groups. If that's something you're interested in stick around, if not, that's totally okay. But while we're in these groups will have some identified volunteer leaders who know who they are, and are going to sort of set some ground rules for us. So Nicole, if we can hop to the next slide. We do have a couple ground rules just while we're in breakout rooms just to make sure that you know we're staying respectful and we're ensuring that everyone can have a platform to be heard. So these are just some things to consider. If you tend to speak up a lot, do your best to try and make space for others. Listen actively to what other people are saying. And to repeat back and clarify language to make sure that we're understanding each other and help make others look brilliant. I think this is really important. We're all coming from different places, spaces, different levels of familiarity with the open education world and we all bring our own level of expertise. So very important that we're bringing that out of each other. And then if we could go to the next slide as well. So what is the future of open education this is sort of the prompt that we're going to give you within these these breakout rooms. While you're in here you're assigned volunteer will be taking notes throughout the session and they'll remind you of that when they go in. So just be aware of that. I'm going to go out front. The purpose of this is just to sort of make some, you know, anecdotal feedback that they can give back to us and volunteers if you're able to send those to me in an email afterwards that would be fantastic and we'll compile that along with our community meter data as well. But we want to facilitate a little bit of a space for you to chat about this verbally and chat with some other attendees of the conference and see, you know, what everyone thinks. But also use this as an opportunity to build connections I know it's the last day. So this is one of the last sessions of the conference but we can always be networking and we can always be building our community so make an effort to reach out to somebody in your session. And that would be fantastic. Okay, so you're welcome to stay in your breakout room for as long or short as you like. If you get to the end of the discussion and feel like you're all done. That's great. You're free to go. We'll see you at the closing session which I think is the next one coming up after this. But you're welcome to stay up until the 25 minute after the hour mark when the plenary officially ends. Perfect. Thank you for mailing on us, please. Yeah, I think it'll be really fun so if you're if you're able to we'd love to have you and we really really value the feedback from the community so we'd love to hear what you have to say. Any, any thoughts. Emily or Nicole before we dive in. I'm ready to go. I'm looking forward to this. Great. All right, should I should I send people off. I'm not completely confident in my distribution of facilitators so if you end up in a room with two facilitators please come out and I will assign you to a new one. So, I'm going to open the rooms right now the facilitators are going to be sent to their rooms. And then people will be joining you very shortly. And we'll still have big groups so don't worry, it's not going to be just two people. No, it will not be. It'll be about 1010 people per.