 short code challenge and you work on that for about a week and then they sit down with you over Skype or something like that and just kind of talk through how you structured your program and why you decided to do things the way you did and yeah, it's very relaxed and it's not anything to be intimidated by but that's basically the process that you go through. Is it really everything down there? Is it a program of accommodations and everything? No. Oh, you have to arrange that, right? Yeah, also the program I think costs 15,000 right now, the price has gone up but they also do offer scholarships particularly for underrepresented groups in technology and for women so when you're applying if you kind of highlight that in your application that's something that they'll consider and yeah, you do have to worry about your housing and stuff but they're really fantastic in helping you get set up with that but yeah. Last one, the H-Y's, there's no, but you let the H-Y's concert, whether you're a senior citizen already, you're just in after your school? I'm sorry, I didn't understand. Can you say any H-Y's that means to say that any H-Y's? They don't have like age requirements at all, I think you have to be at least 18 years old but we've had people go through the program that have gone in like 55 or 60 so there are people with backgrounds in finance, in education, in music, in arts, in consulting so people from all in backgrounds, yeah. Any other questions? Yes, do you want to shout or should I? I'm hearing a course, could you use any specific rules? Yeah, yeah, so before you start the course there's actually a huge set of pre-work, it's about 150 hours of pre-work and if you would like access to the pre-work, it's on the Flatiron School website or you can come approach me and I can share the link with you but basically the pre-work is the Code Academy Ruby Track, there's also a Rails tutorial and a couple other resources that I've used, Ruby Monk is pretty fantastic for learning Ruby, Ruby in 100 minutes, those are all things that I use before I started Flatiron and Flatiron also has their own curriculum that they are now putting online through a product which will hopefully be available I think in the next month or two but their pre-work is completely free and accessible and it goes through like Git, setting up Git and GitHub, Ruby, Rails, SQL, all the basic stuff that you would want to know in terms of actually working on developing applications for the web. Yes, hi. So the way that Flatiron works is you have lectures in the morning and then in the afternoon you basically sit with a group of your peers and you work through labs together so it is very much like you're programming in a group and the really awesome thing about that environment is that they encourage you to not code on your own because I think when you're starting out what can really happen is you sit down and you try to work through a problem and you spend hours on it and you don't get anywhere and that's just very discouraging. So what we would do is we would be very much encouraged to work as a team to solve problems and then it was also very helpful because when we would start building applications we would build applications in groups of two or three. So then you kind of like get a little bit of exposure to what it's like to develop a workflow and like separating responsibilities and like the different aspects that go into somebody like structuring how an application works versus deploying an application versus designing how it will look on the front end. So everything is very much like interactive and in a group setting and you're never going to be like sitting in a dark room with headphones coding. That's just not a thing that we ever really did. Which is very very helpful and indicative of what you'll do as a developer because most companies are looking to hire somebody that can integrate into a larger team of developers and engineers and on board. So if you have experience doing that, that's going to be a huge asset because you know how to work with other engineers and you know how to integrate into a larger team and work on a large code base as a group. Any other questions? I don't really have a question, but there is a similar school example called Journal of Samoan Education in the US. They just go for the first class now. It's probably a little bit cheaper for this region. And also working in a dark room a little bit is quite nice. I mean I do it too, but yeah, it's just, it can be a little bit hard when you're starting a group. Yeah, when you get to enough of a level where you can do that, that's also very fun. Cool, well I'll be around. So if you want to ask me a question, do not hesitate to approach me. Thank you so much. Thank you.