 We're joined here by James Underdown, Director of Center for Inquiry Los Angeles and founder of IIG, Independent Investigations Group. Jim, thanks for joining us. How are you? I feel great. It's good to be here. So, how many Tams have you been to? Probably seven or eight or something. I was actually at the first one in Florida. I was a speaker at the first one in Florida, so yeah, I span the whole range here. You lose track after a certain number, I assume. Yeah, they all sort of mush together a little bit. A few dots of interesting incidents in between. So, what keeps you coming back for more? What do you enjoy about TAM? You know, I just love making connections with the people. It's a good, a lot of the skeptical community shows up here and I know a lot of these people and I work with a lot of them and it's great to reconnect and make plans and push forward. Tell us a little bit about IIG. This I should confess in full disclosure format. I have a personal interest in IIG. It's something I might want to do. I don't know, we'll see. But, tell me a little bit about what you guys do. Yeah, the IIG is a group of volunteers who likes to become involved in the actual investigation and testing of claimants. I know there are lots of skeptic groups around the country who get together socially. We get together and actually perform the investigations and try to publish our results. Very good. And if people want to find out more about what you guys are doing, where, what's your website, where can they go? You can go to iigwest.org and poke around there and see what it's all about. You could also call me at the Center for Inquiry in Los Angeles or write me there. Anyone can start an IIG. We encourage grassroots people all over the world to be trained and conduct these investigations and be a part of the solution. And if you come to TAM next year, just look for this guy. Come on up, ask him about it and get involved. Jim, thanks for joining us here.