 Maybe just a bit of background on Building Region Alliance is this group here has been Working tirelessly to set up this whole event. So thank you everybody And part of what we realized is there's a lot of collaboration officially unofficially as Our respective groups and beyond so with get going shelling points 50 years And we saw in some ways it was kind of organizing itself But also it's kind of had these informal structures and we find ourselves bringing more and more people into the fold so the idea is here we just wanted to explore a little bit more about you know what does it mean to build a region alliance and Get some of the major players that we've been working with so far all in one room and just have a little bit of a conversation here So fortunately, I didn't memorize my notes at a time. So I'm going to be rude and read off my phone But I'll lead off to our steam panel here and say You know, what does a region alliance mean? It's like why do we need to bring together the community like this for events for discussions formally and informally? And I'll kick it off as Simone because I know you have some some interesting points on this so everybody I I think it's incredibly incredibly important to you create these spaces because You want to have this opportunity to bring a lot of people who are very value-aligned together And encourage and facilitate and hold space for these conversations to happen and for us to Collectively come up with the next steps and the next action points and the you know the plan for what it is that we're all doing here and With events like funding the comments with events like Shelling point We really are facilitating that conversation and Elevating that conversation over all of the other Potentially all the other threads that are a little bit more extractive There are a little bit more superficial when it comes to what three there are a little bit Just let's face it pointless Because it's important to to have that value and maintain that value and encourage everybody to Add to that value every perspective matters. This is how we all move Forward and we move forward together Yeah, maybe just add I think we're sort of in this interesting environment where everything that we do together actually adds to the sort of like collective intelligence and overall sort of Flourishing of web 3 and I think in traditional sort of institutions That's not really the case if you're part of a company you're kind of like in your own little ecosystem. You have you know, maybe like Little networking thing with like another company But you don't really have like a direct connection or partnership or like really embedded sort of relationship with other groups And I think in web 3 that's very much not the case I think you you naturally have a lot of kind of positive some games to be played And by that what I mean is that if you do something in you know, actually, this is true I would say even an open source, but the line incentives of sort of web 3 I think give more credence to this If you have basically an open source project you have something that you're working on in web 3 By doing that you're actually giving other people in the ecosystem new tools new kind of conversation New ideas that they didn't have before that they weren't able to execute on before and that's kind of like the money Like those conversation in defi as well but I think it's especially important in sort of the regenerative economic space because we have these massive global scale problems and I think the idea that you can just have one institution solving those things on their own is It's probably not realistic in the face of these kinds of challenges So I think to me it's one just a natural way of you know Web 3 kind of enabling this coordination across organizations that didn't exist in web 2 But in addition, I think it's also a question of how do you actually you know Why is it important in Regen and why is it important to focus on this particular space when we are thinking about those alliances? Now I was gonna say that very similar thing that I think that it's important for us to build as an ecosystem because web 3 is inherently Interoperable and you can actually take some of the strategies mechanisms that someone did and blend it on your own but also just like very very like symbiotic so Organizations that are like as we were mentioning the reading alliance if one is particularly good at one thing And then the other one has another expertise. We're we don't need to actually like The better of those expertise we can just partner together and achieve like collective good while also making sure that we have the align incentives towards like Building the ecosystem and building for each other. So it's more about like how we do we come enablers for others in the ecosystem then like how do we Optimize for our own strategy and I would say that part of like Coming together and sharing and to say that it is very much I see it across the whole spectrum of Regen and web 3 and in general this new mechanism designs both at like Twitter spaces and like sharing things but also in in Conferences and in like very intentional kind of retreats or groups There are constantly just like building together and sharing which that's like the main reason why the group exists and I think that's something we're not great here It's so I agree with all that and I think it's you know from I guess at the perspective of what we've been working on a Protocol labs a bit too is it's a bit of you know, finding a place for information dispersion within the community I think is just so critical because there is like, you know, there's not there's a tremendous opportunity I think to accelerate the development of this space whether that's by community whether that's by mechanism design all things we're doing here by just bringing a Bunch of people together I feel like there's a lot of isolated approaches to kind of solving very similar problems which you know as we kind of explore the search Space for ourselves of how are we gonna solve some of like the fundamental public goods and network goods type problems within our You know for ourselves turns out there's a lot of people who have been spending a lot of time working on this within the web 3 community the You know the research in the economics community has been looking at these coordination problems for a very very long time So I think it's for us But I think it's so valuable is just like understanding and like compressing the search time It takes to find these problems that others have spent a lot of time and have very unique approaches on and like help Bring it into to ourselves. So in that in that sense, I think it's like it's very much like we You know, we don't want to reinvent the wheel and we also want to Be able to like pull all these threads in versus like trying to search for ourselves So and I think it by bringing all these people together. It also creates a lot of resiliency Which you know, I'm curious Simona what you think about, you know, how do we kind of install resiliency and like a build a good foundation for this movement as we go forward, especially you know given You know everything that's going on right now in the markets Everything that's been happening lately in the world Um, I would definitely say that it's so rooted in the energy that we all share and Which added about this before where I don't think this alliance like it's not a formal thing but it's a threat that keeps us together and pulls us together and It's a testament for a lot of us who have been in this ecosystem for a very long time and we are very tired But we continue doing it because we genuinely feel compelled to Because we believe because we're surrounded by people who also believe who are You know Trying to keep that energy going and trying to keep that momentum going because really What matters is to Push this type of conversation forward push this type of Dynamic forward versus just letting all of the extractive things bubble up to the surface Which as we know and as we've seen time and time again do run out of steam, right? And they just like drop off and then there's nothing so It's I would say that it is that connection between us all and that belief and that alignment that we have to ensure Is protected and is maintained which is why we have these events Which is why we have these conversations, which is why we come together when we do which is why we must maintain these Conversations and like expand them and add more and more perspectives to it because that is what keeps us together Um, and that is what keeps that collective energy. Um, you know and hopefully fuels us for a little bit longer Yeah, I think especially in in this sort of like market there's a lot of Need for people to be thinking about like how are you actually Coming together around different initiatives and and working together Um, because ultimately, you know, there's kind of a I actually so I I mean we all sort of like went through like the Um, like 2018 like bear market and I actually think that those were like some of my fondest memories because like that Was really like it instilled that sense of like camaraderie and it gave you kind of that reflection Like the period of reflection around the fact that you're doing this for intrinsic reasons Not because of like any kind of like extrinsic motivation and I think that's always stronger I think you can have both but it's it's always stronger to have some degree of intrinsic motivation But to your point Matthew before I think what's what's really important is just like So yeah, like I kind of mentioned this before but it's so often we get caught in these local maxima And like we don't really have a good way to like once we're in that sort of like You know on that like kind of like peak getting off of it and finding the next sort of like part of that search space We just get like caught and I think by having these kinds of Like shelling points no pun intended like I think this is actually a way to produce like a kind of Just almost a force that pushes you off of that hill and forces you to go back to the search space and go back to this sort of like exploration phase And I just think that's super important and I think one You know to follow up on on both your points here You know one of the things that we've kind of installed as a mission to fund the commons in terms of community is How do we bring together these different communities? That may exist outside of web 3 so you know traditional researchers Institutional investors academics to all kind of understand the shape of the problem and understand that that we're actually There's a lot of you know ingrained knowledge out there that matches to the work that we're doing And one of the things that we've noticed, you know, we have some great speakers You know sir, or as for example earlier comes from almost a non-traditional web 3 background and there's a lot of this Understanding web 3 understanding public goods and regenerative finance and onboarding into the ecosystem in the community And you know start with somona You know talk to me a little bit about we had discussions about what it means to really have a core set of onboarding Like what are the things that need to be Imparted to people coming into the community and how do we bring them into this like this mission that we're trying to create here Um, I and I've said this before and I do Again through throughout the years it it has become more and more apparent just how important it is There needs to be this process of initiation Into something because when When I arrived in this ecosystem the main thing that I remember having is this incredible sense of humility and awe Being in the presence of this technology that for the first time in such a long time you have this stack that is So prone to anything to innovation to change and it was Excitement but humility and also just like so so careful to make sure that we use it for the right stuff and I think as you get Flashy things and as you get extractive behaviors coming in people get distracted from having that humility and that excitement and that care about what you're using it for and it's powerful stuff and you know the The opportunity that we have we really shouldn't squander and it's a very Fine line to instill that in people coming in that this is with great power comes great responsibility The fact that you need to be mindful the fact that maybe you need to elevate your intentions when you do build something the fact that you should focus on impact and redefine value that way not dollar bill time like Let's let's do a little bit better like we've we've been at a plateau for so long This is an opportunity for us all to just like Take a step up or forward or whatever Yeah, just turning on that That was the same thing when I just came to where three which is much later Uh, I saw like we have this tool set to encode like our visions and our like whatever we want to create But this tool and this technology they can be like can't go like anywhere And it is about like making sure that While we're still kind of like very early and we still have like a great design space to like engineer these Talking incentives or these like coordination mechanisms or different things is like how do we also make sure that Everyone who is also very much driven for impact for good for like new thinking is also onboarded here and like thinking together so I don't I live more like From the personal side, for example, I'm really excited about like Technology and like coordination systems and economics, but I'm also really excited about Health about going to like natural areas to indigenous wisdom to like philosophy stuff like that And I feel like when I got into this space like it was one one of the few places When you can actually come and bring your whole experience and your whole self to it I think I think that is something that a lot of people have felt and and a lot of like just the conversations have from People having experience with like I remember one Gidko and Polly good It was about magic and it was Sarah to hear about her experiences and like So everyone was like bringing their own expertise And I think that's what this is about as well Like everyone coming from their own research and their own Area and one final thing is like I think of it as like when you come together and you bring in Your like Lego blocks like you could either bring like a already structured house And like put it to the table and then once you go back after the conference You just saw other houses and like take it back Or you can bring your the pieces of knowledge and the expertise that made up that Lego house And you bring only the Lego pieces and you collectively kind of like create something together And once you leave you actually need that Lego piece from someone else that piece of knowledge to create that vision So that's how I like to see like kind of like this world I was just going to add a little angle here and again we've spoken about this before but I really love that idea of bringing your whole self Into it and I think that's why for a lot of us you finally feel comfortable And I don't know if anybody here feels that way But I remember just feeling finally comfortable with everything that I had to share that You know, I was thinking about the fact that I could divide with people share Share knowledge and thoughts and ideas with people and then we would create something new together And it the distinction that I kind of make is For such a long time We've been like one dimensional versions of ourselves that we bring to the thing and now we can be like the full 3d model and it's Feels very good And that and how do you capture that and how do you Make sure that you allow people to feel comfortable because we've been so restricted for so long that we just feel Like we need permission to do it And this Wet three in my opinion. It gives you that space to become 3d versus like A sheet of paper Yeah, and he's had hope from colonel just released A piece called signature economies, which actually like talks a little bit about this this idea of you know What are we actually doing when we're interacting with like anything web 3? We're kind of creating our own sort of maps of meaning by signing two things that actually Are important to us that matter to us. We're like showcasing that Inactions by interacting with the system that we're building and that's something that I think You know allows us to to do that kind of like bringing our whole selves sort of Mentality to what we're up to because we all understand that this stuff is it is in public It is you know tied to our personhood We had you know Pooja and others talking about some of this And models for this earlier, but I think The one thing I really want to highlight just in addition to that is just that The the sort of kernel community which which Andy and Vivek started Is really about communities of care and and it's because there is that care That I think people feel comfortable in the first place And that's what I think was missing from previous like sort of institutions So I I think this is like Super important and like super critical I also want to potentially like throw a little bit of a wrench or challenge in here as well just to just to see So I think there's You know part of what we talked about with mechanism design is kind of like how do we rewrite the fundamentals in our previous talk By ala is You know that I think like the community is incredibly important And I think there's all but I think it's like how do you bring this community in this like bringing your whole self And how do you merge that and have the right discussions and discourse around things about like well? There is a financialization aspect. There is a fact that like if we You know scalable scale blue scale we redefining value flows In an end state to be able to like fund the things that we're important that we think are incredibly important Does require at least a you know acknowledgement of like some of the limitations when it comes to like the financial system Some of the you know the realities of the funding and like how it needs to be regenerative over time Um I'm curious. How do you think because like I you know for for some of the work that our team has done? We're like very almost two in our heads about you know How do we make the financial and like the mechanism design stuff work? And then like also the but the community is incredibly powerful to basically you know help with the allocation help with the You know the longer-term vision help bringing people together to solve this like mechanism design problem in some ways Is like is how we would we think about that in certain ways How do you think about balancing this need for having you know innately being in any like financial value driven markets Of like funding public goods with this maintaining, you know the goodwill the ability to bring your whole self to this community The need to kind of like keep ourselves oriented in our you know Understand what's important that may not be financialized in some ways Like does that mean that we just acknowledge that there are some areas where we won't be as economically as efficient Or is that we need to focus on the mechanism design and build all of this in But understand that they take longer and we need to rely on the community to backstop some of that I can take on that first I think there's two things that resonated one was the balance between Being in our heads designing those mechanisms versus actually like doing the Whatever we are funding and whatever those mechanisms are like meant to create in the world I think that's actually a good balance I got from like working directly with founders and like teams at 50 years that are Using these funding models to create change While creating all those like more mechanism design Like through the way through thinking but also like I even had this like moment Like I went to Costa Rica like two weeks ago And it was like this concept of like we're building this sort of solar bank narrative and solar bank futures of region Regeneration like natural bank economies And I was like I want to actually like experience a little bit of that So I literally went to Costa Rica to like being one of those villages and the communities to see one snippet of that But I think another Part of that like of the balance between different ways I think it is actual the plurality and the interoperability like for example Geek on grants 2.0 will hold like a many different ways to funding party goods or caring for the economy I know that like and for example, she's like they're from selo Like selo has like different ways to Like care like to enable people who were usually not Do not have access to transacting value now They can actually do so just with their smartphones because of their ballora app or other things And the same way they're implementing the atobac currencies and different things the same way that for example radical drapes is experimenting with like different flows of money like More like everyone who finds benefit or something can start like a subscription towards that And one final thing there would be like with this concept of like building together and building like an ecosystem It allows us to create these mechanism designs And then implement them in different communities within what three or within Real life. So for example, talking engineering commons having like these different ways of Like very like we can use those tools, but then adjust the details towards them Like the communities and the economies particularly to them So we can like adjust like we have the same base layer design But we have to like make sure that the details are like fit into the puzzle piece with like each individual community So I think that's the value. Yeah Yeah, I feel like one really interesting thing to note is that We are in a world where we sort of like often in web 3 think Oh, like this is the first time we've like had a movement where there's like being like Any kind of regenerative discussion or like climate discussion like these things have existed before But the difference is that we actually have these kinds of shared currency and like these ways of Actually taking action that didn't exist before or if they did exist We're just extremely cumbersome to actually implement like you'd have to go to Like a grants, you know program and wait six months for a response or like a year for a response And maybe you'd get $50,000 to do your thing Whereas now it's much more permissionless you can get involved and like use any of these mechanisms or even build your own mechanisms to do this Um, I know panvala neurons here And like they're doing amazing work on like letting people even create sort of their own Like shared communities and shared currencies and to me that is fundamentally Just a game changer in the way that we're doing this work So I yeah, I really hope that quadratic funding is just one kind of lego block in the eventual sort of Set of tools that people have to be able to create their own sort of You know funding sources for for these these movements And I'll just quickly add I think it's I think it's the movement towards an open source economies right where you can you have these building blocks and you can take The pieces and the instructions are very easily accessible and The technology is light enough and it can work on mobile and it can do this and it can do that and really all it is is A rejigging and a redesign of what's been calcified For so long you're literally taking something and you're smashing through that so that you allow Flows to flow differently you allow value to flow in a different way And let's remember that the monetary system like we talk about sustainability till the cows come home the monetary system as it is Will always Trump that and will prevent it there is no that in itself the way it is designed It will always stop anything sustainable infinite growth does not exist. It is a fallacy. It is stupid so at this point Because we have this these tools to break that Fix that redesign this change that give and empower people With this tooling with the vision with examples to take and then adapt and implement in their communities That's the game changer. That's the thing and this is an opportunity for us all to do that Shake it up because it's about time like honestly. I'm kind of bored with the way things are Yeah, I would say to that like quickly as well Like I would say it's like new type of thinking like reimagining like radically reimagining how we think Decentralizing innovations that everyone can put out their own mechanisms or what they value within the innovations that we each give To communities. I think both are like, yeah, super valuable I I want to dig into that, but I know we don't have to have too much time. Um I think it's interesting because there's even among like this group who like we've had many discussions about this But there's like there's very like there's diverging opinions on many things, but like a common aligned goal like a Diverging opinions and also, you know diverging approaches Whether it's just like for own personal opinions, but also like some of the organizations that we're affiliated with And I think that's super important to actually Nurture that I think it's important that we have like dissenting opinions and we have the ability to have like, you know Conflicting approaches, maybe not conflicting, but like just Understand that we shouldn't all be thinking the same way about this like bring in as many diverse, you know Perspectives on this and like many diver diverse approaches to say like hey, I think you're wrong But I think we're going to the same output not saying that we I think that we're wrong because we we love get going We do a lot of work with them, but um, I think it's uh It's interesting and Ali you mentioned this need to essentially allow the freedom for people to diverge On the implementations and the approaches that they take To what I believe is a very clear shared goal in terms of furthering public goods commons impact, but also coming together and almost like battle testing and sharing the the learnings every kind of like three or four months or You know in venues such as this which is I think a lot of what we're trying to accomplish are things like shelling point in front of the Commons, um, how can we have? A almost a check-in to push forward like our thinking to be able to say that we're taking different approaches Or we're taking some of the same approaches, but we need to have almost like a more distributed You know approach to it How many more times can I use approach in this sentence? But I think that's super important. I think Ali you made that you made that great point So with that I guess like my final thought is you know, Simone I think you summed it up very well about like what does like a regen alliance actually mean in in practice And I'll throw it over to you because you had a very good way of saying this And I want everybody's reactions here So Like I mentioned, it's not a formal thing, right? It's that thread that links us together and keeps us together And it becomes stronger the more we have these check-ins and this opportunity to have discussion and this opportunity to Really become comfortable in the gradient in the nuance Because again, one of the things that we've been used to is like a yes. No It's this or that no at the the Innovation and creativity and pro I guess evolution exists in the gradient in the nuance And that is what is all of these conversations whether they're contradictory whether we argue whether we like have heated conversations That's what it does. It brings gradient. It brings nuance It brings the opportunity to number one be comfortable in ambiguity and thrive on it and That ability to again Recognize the fact that we all want the same thing and how we get there You know is the result of all of our different types of work all of our different opinions all of our different ways of looking at the world I would maybe add I think so It's not a formal thing the region in line. It's not like a thing that like is is you know going to be There's not going to be a big announcement There's not going to be a it's just a thing that's that's out there in the world and it's We might make t-shirts at some point We got to get those we will wear them for the next the next panel. Um, I think that it's important though to Create a not not to reuse shelling point again But like I think to create some kind of way for people to like come around Kind of you know campfire and like share their values tell their stories And in a way that hopefully does lead to these sorts of divergent opinions coming together and finding some kind of common ground And I think maybe my like call to action for for folks that are listening would just be If you have a project and like just think about how are you making an impact? What is the impact you're actually trying to achieve? How are you measuring that impact and then reach out? I mean just any of us are we're all on twitter Everyone's probably too too much on twitter But yeah, just reach out and get involved Yeah, I would say the same concept of like how we We actually need to do a lot of fixing in the world to actually Get to where we want to do or a lot of creating new new concepts and new things So there's a lot of things we have to do, but we don't need to do all them each of us So that's the concept of like yeah Just each of us tailoring to our own individual expertise and think that we can do best But knowing that we're part of this a collective group that we can always come back and converge We with other groups and share learning share inspirations search feedback and then like build together Individual individually and then come into groups making sure that we tackle every aspect of things we need to tackle But as a collectively I agree with all that. I think my very tactical wrap wrap up here would be With this idea of like mixing mixing of like different opinions and approaches I would kind of my call to action for everybody here would be go talk to three or four people at the conference that you Have not spoken with yet. I think there's a lot of really really cool organizations people's perspectives Um And the the whole purpose that we tried to get this event going for was like how can we get a hallway track where we just have Unofficial conversations and like inspiration from the talks and like the great speakers we have here are carried into these private conversations Where I think like bonds are formed and we've seen this Where you know meetings and hallways or meetings in the chat section of our previous virtual events have evolved into projects that have now Made tangible impact every three months that we do fun in the comments So that would be my call to action have a conversation ask somebody like what is it that you need? To push your work forward in the public good space and then see if you can match with somebody else or see if you can match them yourself All right, cool