 The supporters of Bernie Sanders, who in this campaign got much farther than everybody expected, applauded him for his moral vision. And even newspapers like The Washington Post and New York Times, who are not very supportive of the ideas of Mr. Sanders, applauded him for presenting a moral vision. And those same people say, well, this is what's lacking with Hillary Clinton. There are a lot of plans, but where's the vision? So that's my question to you. Where is the vision? Well, let me say first, I've known Bernie Sanders since he was mayor of Burlington. We've been friendly, we're not best friends, for a long time. In fact, during the campaign, one British newspaper found a letter that Bernie had written to me in 1988, explaining why he would never become a Democrat and how corrupt the Democratic Party is. So obviously, you know, Bernie's changed his mind over time. And you're absolutely right, he's brought a certain morality, but I would say it's not the most mature morality. Because just talk about the way he talks about banks and Wall Street. It's one thing to have a reformed position on how to deal with banks. It's another to say, everybody does during the campaign, everybody who works on Wall Street's immoral. I mean, that's condemning lots and lots of regular people who go to work every day in the finance industry trying to make a living, who are not head of Goldman Sachs, who are not taking home billions of dollars. And you need a finance industry in any country to make a modern economy work. And contrast how Bernie talks about these issues with Elizabeth Warren, the senator from Massachusetts. She has the same morality, but she's a lot more specific. And she tells a narrative that is less, you're bad, I'm good. But more, this is the wrong way to organize things, there are better ways to do it. And I think what's going to be really interesting about Bernie and his people is, does that energy dissipate after the primary season ends? What's going to happen to Bernie's army? And in fact, I've been involved with some discussions already about that question, because it's a very important question. And it goes beyond how moral Mrs. Clinton is, because when Bill Clinton was president, one of the things he said to me, he said, all the pressure on him is from the right wing. There was very little political pressure on Bill Clinton when he was president. He was constantly fighting off a Republican party who said the day he was elected, he was a legitimate, large business interest who thought every even smallest reform. If you remember, Mrs. Clinton tried to get national health care when he was president, all the big corporate interests opposed her. And they actually prevented it. So, one of the questions we have when Obama won, and there was all this energy, Obama defeated Mrs. Clinton. He brings out all these youthful activism. What's going to happen to that when he gets elected? And some of us suggested to the White House that he make good use of the names and the lists and set up an organization outside the White House that would be a kind of political force to his left to keep the pressure on. And they didn't do it. They actually refused to do it. They didn't want to have that happen. Well now, something more interesting might happen, because Bernie will be in the Senate. He won't have disappeared. If he chooses to make good use of all those names and those small millions of people that have given him a little bit of money, he could become a very effective pressure from the left to make it easier for Mrs. Clinton to do progressive things. And in this regard, if you're in Europe, you should pay attention to Senator Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth is a very important player in all of this, because it's going to be partly her role to keep Bernie inside the tent. And more important, because I don't think Bernie is going to do something silly and run on a third party, he's not Ralph Nader. But his supporters, and to have a voice they respect Elizabeth Warren talking to them about how important it is to not only support and vote for Mrs. Clinton, but just stay engaged after. So I think there could be a happy kind of outcome for all of us that you get a Democratic Party that's united, it's progressive, and it makes it even more important for what Mrs. Clinton proposes to get passed if it's got support from all the people who supported Bernie.