 Name another podcast like this we're gonna bring it to the table boss talk with your girlfriend Faye boss talk. We're gonna do it how you want boss talk. Yeah, everybody on boss talk It's a unique hustle check check check it. It's a unique house issue boy e ceo, and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? None? None? You know my dad walk on but I want y'all to stop what you're doing right right now Go ahead like subscribe follow share. You know the tactics. You know what to do If y'all like our content like what we doing just go ahead and do that for us But we're all for full length interviews Y'all already know if you want to see them because some people like and some people don't but if you want to see them Go to our patreon channel go to our YouTube membership And that's where you're gonna see our full length interview before anybody else a sign-up for a membership And you get a full exclusive Content before everybody. All right. Thank you for the support man. Hold up You get the content for everybody y'all here. Let's everybody go get some of this content man You know I'm saying we show our prayer that everybody been liking what we've been doing right like and subscribe to the channel Man this guy right here really don't need no introduction man This guy been around man in the south doing hip-hop for us for a long time man He wanted originators man. Hey listen, man I love going down the rabbit hole and finding out about old mobo Joe man Oh my baby pleasure to be here man Listen man, you don't watch no boss talk man. It's not playing man. I'm a boss Together right around man. They definitely do man. Thank you so much for coming on our show man Blessing our platform man for show for show man. We're gonna get into it man. I really like I said I won't we always go a certain way I'm gonna I'm gonna pass it out pass the torch to miss Jamaica and let her take us down through that What we going with it? Yes Do you think it's very similar to New Orleans somewhat somewhat some what And on the people you know I'm saying yeah, I had a good time a real good time Because did you know that just like how New Orleans is separated in parishes Jamaica is also separated in parishes I didn't know that. Yeah, I know that It's beautiful So you were born and raised of course in New Orleans, right? Well Harvey, Louisiana right outside New Orleans. Okay, so not so could everybody love to say New Orleans for a lot of the stuff Because I know it's the all accents are a lot different. Why is New Orleans acts? But your accent sounds so much like everybody in New Orleans compared to Louisiana. Oh I don't know man. I've been there all my life. So I guess I was born this way I guess I don't know so how many siblings We're the family a lot. Yeah, believe it or not my mom my dad has seven boys and seven girls I'm the young together all of them. All of us got a sound mother and father. Oh my if I had a hat I'll bless my hat go off to mama mama strong mama real good. Yeah, I love my dad when I was like about 16 Like about four years ago. Hmm. And you said you were the baby boy baby. I'm the youngest of all So you sport Brad. Yes. Yes. Yes So, um What was it like being raised with so many kids in the same household with your mom and dad? Man, my childhood was so much of fun when I was a kid. It was it was so it was like Like, you know, we had a big family. So we had a nice house My dad always had his own businesses and stuff like that. So like, you know back then. So you have money. Oh, we had Okay, so I guess they were calling me a clever daddy was on school bus driving on his own school bus But he did landscaping he had trash trucks and stuff like that. So, you know back then when people had Weddings and wedding reception all that was at the house. So, you know, but we have a big family all the time It was right there Like most of every Saturday, I had one sister. She was a Jehovah the witness So this to always come by on Saturday. She had like about Four dollars. So everybody's to come by the house on Saturdays, but yeah, the best child What what did okay? So your oldest sibling is how much older than you? I got a niece older than me So sister say let's just say that So, um, why could you tell me about your dad other than being entrepreneur? That really stood out to you that really, you know a lesson that he taught you from a young kid growing up That stuck with you my daddy is the main reason why I'm a boss You know I'm saying cuz like when I was young for some reason now I see he's always bring me to the bank with him used to bring me like he's to go buy machines and all that He's to always make me come you know I'm saying and now that I'm older I see why he was doing that but like The thing for me like while I was raised up It was always raising a village because like every family back there Had a mother-in-law father You know I'm saying you respected every adult in that village like a mother-in-law Right, and I like to say the village still is saying the hood because while I was raised up It's outside of them all it's like a rural neighborhood So like my dad and the in the older guys like they Put civilization that they cut their own streets out. They did all this stuff That's good from the bottlers on up Let me ask you a question man, cuz you said something that really stuck out to me when you said it You said your dad was a bus driver and what's been in the media really is this Ebony K. Williams said that She was like she would not date a bus driver But you said that a bus driver is a boss and I think that's dope that you would say that because in the climate We in the day women are looking at regular nine to five workers like they like they like like they're not even Up to party even date. That's how this the social media have them looking at it So how could you call your dad being a bus driver boss? Well, I can say this ill We never had a mortgage on our house. We never had a car note. You know I'm saying we never missed a meal You see I'm saying so it's like he had his own he drove a bus He owned the bus and he had you know Trash trucks and stuff like that and he know how to go to the bank and take care You know business and stuff, you know, I'm saying them them folks back then like they believe in ownership You know I'm saying like Lane and stuff like that. I had a property. I was 18 years old Wow, the first thing I bought but you see that just like when you saying all of that It almost reminds me like what he was saying is like don't judge a book by its cover Someone seeing a person driving a bus thinking that you just working for mr. Sam over here doing that But you said he owned the bus you said he had more businesses, but a lot of women Not all women, but some women would just because you driving the bus they assume that oh you ain't got it You ain't this I say it like this my mama never work a day in her life Right. She will man coast and fall coast in the back back then in days You know I'm saying this she had every hat because your hats was out for the old woman for church and all that She never worked a day in her life. She couldn't work. She had 14 kids Yeah, yeah, that's what my grandmother had 14 as well. Yeah, she had 14. Yeah, I mean Girls, I mean it was your seven seven seven seven seven seven seven. Yeah So and their relationship, how was their relationship their relationship was good? It was I never remember, you know, no bad times or nothing like that You know I'm saying I mean all I seen was my daddy read this family my mama doing what she's supposed to do You know I'm saying and see I think this generation need to look at things because I think we was taught wrong When they say that man is the head of the house and as I got older I looked at that and I remember Dr. Miles Monroe as the father like the mouse my role before and see they taught us a lot of stuff that It's not really how it went and when I heard him teach that Abortment somewhere because the man is the foundation The latest the head of the house because my mama paid all the bills my daddy put the money there and my mom made sure everything was taken care of But the foundation laid on my daddy whatever his rules was that's the road she rolled with It's him saying like nowadays you got you know a lot of competition So people be feel like I can't date a bus ride can't date But then as you happy in that relationship. Yeah, you see I'm saying like I never gambled in my life in the reason why because That was not allowed in my daddy house This I'm saying and I'll never forget. I know one day he came home. We had animal cards I know you remember I'm a yeah, of course Mm-hmm and he came home and he's seen us playing he said I don't want no calls in my house And I guarantee you never seen more calls in his house The reason why I like to ask all these questions because a lot of times just like you said that he was the foundation Their relationship was the foundation for you Is that understand what I mean and the things that you saw the things that you went through as a child is what helped you To be the person that you are today and that's the reason why I like to ask those questions because we're gonna eventually talk about You becoming that man, but we need to know where you came from. Yeah for sure sure and It's crazy because I came from that and That's why I like the old folks say, um, you know You are what you eat you gotta why would you feed your appetite because I came from that But as my dad had died getting into the music and stuff I Was feed myself the wrong the wrong and I didn't stick with what I saw because that that leader role that you had Guiding you was now gone It was it was it was gone and it was I was flooded with you know streets Yeah, well The streets is one thing but the way the world is designed, you know, like what I'm trying to say a lot of songs I made I Should never made them. You know what happened by mistake though. No, no nothing, right? Nothing is to help my mistake. Yeah You had to go through what you had to go through to help some of the old me and mold me to who I'm on now You know I'm saying but I'm just saying do you have kids? I had three boys, but my two I lost my two older sons I lost my oldest son at 20 and oh five right on right before Katrina Then I just lost my second son. He was like 35 Overdose with that peel stuff hitting on with that fit now right them at the peak lost his dog Like it's a Timber Wow I want to talk about that too cuz I It's certain subjects when I hit them. I definitely want to I want to talk Yeah, because you know we talked to Kenny B and we talked to a lot of different people about he got off of him He happened to be one he was able to kick the habit and he's a real known popular He was on perks. He was not fat. No, yeah, but he but they they lace it But it was no No, it was just late. It was they like pop the pill. Oh, correct. You're doing like listen to me Anything I used to be a big weed smoker. You can't give me no weed. You can't give me You know I'm saying right now, you know I'm saying I'm scared of what they eat cut the wrong place Design it's like they know what they're doing. It's like it's not a game, bro It's like it's by design. So when you think about you know and I want to talk about that for a little bit just like I said for you to lose your son and In the environment that we're in gangsta boo that other boy What was his name big big big skull? You know all of these different people that we're hearing even I even heard of and they may be far fetch DMX All type of different people that we don't know like what we hear the stories of one dying But we don't know but we know that that fitting all is one of the main reasons a lot of time people able to hide Whatever happened, but just man Did you see a problem with your son even dealing with that or it was just something that happened on the wind that he was hiding it No, he wasn't hiding it like My two son my two oldest son cuz my second son he can't like 15 years my third son. I mean 15 years after yeah, I raised them Like all right my girlfriend at time. It was all kids. She raised my kids with me and I remember the first time She went shopping for them and she bought them Different outfits and I was like look if you buy some red and black Jordan if they ain't got a man, too Don't bomb so I raised them so close so close When he lost his older brother and affected him. Yeah, he fight it for 16 years But I saw it, you know I'm saying that it was real rough on him He didn't really have a drug problem. He never really accepted That disconnect of his brother and I know cuz at the funeral like all he kept saying like that It was little Joe and it was wrong Like he'll break down your cry real hard. So he never was able to accept that you know I'm saying then I wind up You know going to jail. He went to jail in and out of jail So it just was so so much so you weren't able to be there for him like I Could have a parent but even if you were able to be there for him What can a parent do to help that child get over that especially when you got? This being promoted so heavy. You see I'm saying it's hard cuz it's like everybody doing it Everybody's saying do it. You know I'm saying it's like when I was in the streets, you know I'm saying I Sold drugs to get the money like we didn't really get high. You know something I smoke we you couldn't Tell you that all the time like like y'all got the money the money to hide in them. Yeah in the girl in the girls Yeah, but you know it's like now I don't I just don't get it You know I'm saying I tried to put him in the best position I can you know I'm saying but it just was So was there any any signs of him? Struggling with a drug addiction of any sort He wasn't really struggling with addiction. He was struggling with pain Okay, you know I'm saying like his brother then he lost his best friend like you know man We went through that man lose you lose so many takes a toll on you did okay Did it happen before master Pete lost his daughter on the same time on the same way? No, not a sound we I would say probably Within 30 to 40 days of that of that time. Yeah, cuz he he I lost him like I think it's a 10 Between the night, I know master Pete does somewhere in there cuz it was like So you knew about her daughter before your son Yeah, when they say there was a pill and I was like wow, we still losing bro Well, I'm saying it's like whether you don't say cuz sometimes you might like, okay I'm doing music. They did music cash winning master Peter me. We all was right there They made it but we still fighting the Sam elephant You know Sam, we still losing our people man, and that's crazy man. I sure hate so money is not the key It's not the key. It's not the key What you think the key is knowledge is understanding accepting the wisdom from it and living it Yeah, don't say like I did like he doing yeah, you know saying that's that's the key But it takes time because you when you overcome it and you're living a life And yes, these kids can watch you and look at you But they're looking at you like well when you was younger you had it I want to have what you had it when you know you was younger. They're like, I'm young I want to do this, but I don't realize that I might not even live to reach where you Exactly, you know what I mean. They're not thinking about that Money's to money and girls and all of that is to Grammarizing yeah, yeah, I know you have to feel your spiritual void for me I I mean I'm a believing in Christ. I'm a Christian guy So everybody has a faith that they believe in okay, it may be whether it be Muslim it whether it be whatever money something is something that's gonna drive you and if you can have balance with life Man, it can change your circumstances. It's all about balance really more than anything So if you can balance on spiritualism and then balance on, you know, whether eating, you know Filling your your flesh all these different things your mental everything has to have balance in order for you to grow Emotionally balanced all these are different play places where we need to have structured balance so that we'll be able to deal with different things Even your son if it's drinking if you don't have a balance with that that can take you out if it's smoking food food I just said food I'm telling you everybody's everybody's everybody's the biggest drug on the planet And so when you look sugar all of these different things that we battle it all boils down for me to balance Mm-hmm if you can balance you can you can learn to maneuver in life. You feel me? Yeah, if you can balance everything not do overdo it not underdo it but balance the thing I think is the key you got to figure how to slow life down because life is on his own speed You know I'm saying and I think a lot of these kids get caught up trying to keep up Yeah, I'm saying with that, you know, like even with my kids is like you know, it's like The other kids a lot of kids ahead that falls at the house. You know I'm saying So you got to respect I got something different that other people got like a lot of they They kids a lot of kids in the neighborhood grew up my kids They went on and did what they're supposed to do and they thank me all the time You know I'm saying they call me checking on me, you know, they're doing good But sometimes I think you know you get caught up. Then you know It's no book to being a parent that they give us man They give us you know, I'm saying instruction. You just go out there and you frig it out Wow a lot of times we live what we saw as kids growing up That's why but at the same time that's why I go back to your parents the way how you saw them You sound like you had a great life as a kid growing up and saw in that structure But at the same time you turn heads once your daddy passed away And you didn't follow in the footsteps of your parents. So to say growing up because you had a good You know role model as in how it's supposed to be that was your manual That's right. So what happened? Well, like I was trying to say it's like Learning your ears Your eyes and your mind to the wrong things. You know I'm saying like, you know at that time That's when they switched the music when I came up, you know, it's the music, you know, it was about love You know I'm saying you had LTD L green, you know, I'm saying So when I'm saying you have something totally different Well, now when it first came when it was hip hop the Sugar Hill gang But when they started getting to the game Luke Skywalker to live crew NWA, you know, I'm saying ghetto boys and stuff like that. You saw he ain't you know, I'm saying, you know So when I came out, you know, I'm saying I'm living This stuff that I'm hearing so you're saying that the music is more powerful even not just the music because I was in the music It was like, okay. You got the music You got the drugs, the cocaine came to the crack came at the same time. You know what I'm saying? Plus you got the property You know what I'm saying? You got the alcohol, you know what I'm saying? So it's all It's all about how the system was designed to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like for me I like to say I got pimped by a system was put in place. That's what happened to me because Like I say in my village I had A mother and a father and every house back down So I'm saying so I had all the example and everybody had big families Everybody had mother and father, but all the older men died around that time. So like the guys that was I came in 67 like the guys at 57 was what was teaching us They started doing the drugs Maybe so you're coming in 67. Yeah, I came in 67. You look good. Thank you man. You do too Let me let me get it. I'm gonna get at you one time man When it comes down to the music man, I see you with the mo mobo camp record I mean I came down and I interviewed sharoni at peaches. Love me. That's my yeah I interviewed sharoni and uh, I interviewed a mac and k. You know, I do all the new others You know, people don't realize how because I'm where I'm from. I'm so close to new I mean so close to Louisiana that I always had a love for Louisiana and texas. So I'm I'm five miles away So at the end of the day when I go down through gray and go down to viven Louisiana and cut and go back up la one in shreveport And I might come to natcha natcha this or I might come to you never know I might go to alexandria or munro. I might go to new olens But I'm just saying I love the fact that we so we so close together man that it's hard to separate We love each other. People don't realize it lose Allen when you think about ppc and and and and them linking with uh Master p. They'll be back in a day. We're gonna get into all that But I wanted to ask you like like what are peaches records? How was how was it uh when y'all first, you know, you've been on a long time But how was that just linking with her and be it going by the store and just how y'all came up? Oh man, it was it was love um with shirani, you know going to peaches records because um She um Like she puts a lot of a lot of local music out. She puts a lot of a lot of um music out local music She had pushed a lot of milk music out, you know local music and stuff and believe it or not when I came up I'm prison. I was working now with mr. What? Yeah You work so there's a lot of people On recipe I met soldiers slim now I met crazy Well, I had been crazy years ago, but I met them then when I was working at like Like 2000 2001 I work for mr. Rhino. So everybody can do that. I used to be there too, huh? How long was you there? Uh, I might have stood by mr. Rhino. Maybe a year or so. Okay, so you was there with Mia. Okay What's working there? I know me from there too. So y'all was working together. Yeah Did she work or was she lazy? I I hear that a lot even with the music though I mean with the music too circles around the average man. Yeah, it's a good person working hard. She's a real small I've seen them at the rock the bells concert Last year because she had a party for one of our kids though And man, she's I think she's doing a kid for like 30 something years old or something. I said wow Yes, I think she had a restaurant or something out here that was telling me The food out there too. So what what shift did she work did she come in before you out to you? Um, she came in the evening time in the evening time. You already be the only time. No, no Because I was working two jobs. I was working in the daytime The eyes to go hang out by shirani And eating time which we always did that was doing the music and all that too. So she was like mobile Why y'all just get a job y'all? Okay, give me give me a time when some music came out that y'all was both excited about that hit Hit pizza store because it was a time when something came y'all like man at that day it finally came to the store Um, what you talking about when I was working when you was working there When you love music man, you it's certain things certain times that come the music is is so dear to us at that At that time come on with it, man. I was on soldier real hard. Oh, so soldier came out with something Yeah, I was on soldier slim real hard how he came out. I think that's when he left no limit Okay, I was on that one. I was on that one real hard He says you knew him when you was there because you met him you met him when you were there So tell me a story about him man, I tell a Sam story because Like when I when I was down one day soldier and crazy came came in and um I'll be joking. You know I'm saying so when they walk in I was like I was like, um Y'all the big dogs. I ain't nobody so slim. He came over there He was like, who mobile Joe. He's like, man, we come up all lower level Rue. This juvenile doghouse policy got it Y'all, you know, he's running it. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, all right. All right. He's like, yeah Yeah, so he was home, you know, tell him in that and then he said he was up there And ain't go with on foreshad from Rue. So he had been who you tell my soldier. Yeah, so he hadn't been locked up Yeah, he had been locked up in prison. Yeah, he was in a gala with rulers juvenile with foreshad for rulers juvenile too But he was telling me then he was like, well I didn't make it to the walk With folk to howl at him, but he said he heard he was getting out. So when he get out He wanted to draft something. You know, so so what was the music is because you you hear these stories about soldier slim Was the music? I mean you you say you was waiting on the album. It was in anticipation for his next project Yeah, he had to sit on it on his back at that time. What's his best album to you? Oh I can't think of a name. Our best song. I'm trying to think of I'm trying to think of the songs I'm not my dog. That was my favorite. That's his favorite. Yeah, because the thing about it My youngest son, I had him on the rail tough and that was you know, we was wrapping it to each other Going back and forth and that was his own That was our favorite one. And were you still in the audience when he passed? A matter of fact, yes, I was a matter of fact, it was so sad because When he passed I was still working at peaches. Wow, really? Really? Yeah, I was still at peaches because I remember I was Right before you met you met him within a year and that's so period time. He passed and you got a value of time because He was when I just see him at the at the club the sound club that see had issues I was in there that night too. So all of us was was in there. You was there when see had this Yeah, when it happened, okay I was in in the same club because it was on the west bank one firm. It was right there in Harvard one firm so on But every weekend on Saturday was to be there and he's always telling me like man Book the studio, you know, we're gonna go do the music But at this time I'm still trying to get my balance. I'm just coming home I got three boys at the house plus like I did friends still think I got it like that You know, so I never would have thought he was going to get killed because having him and four on a song together Would have been so fire. You know, so I remember hearing on I was leaving Peaches, right came on a radio And they said it and soon they said it my youngest son rung my phone And I called the phone and he was like that it killed soldiers slim I was like, I know he's like that why why they killed him I'm like son. I'm on my way home. I took him. I get home. So when I get home I goes in the house He see me he like just standing there waiting for you to say something and I ain't got no answers So I'm like, so let me take a shower. I ain't talk to him about his sense You know what I'm saying? They lost his older brother Right after that, you know what I'm saying? But it's just like it's just so much trauma that we've been going through All our life, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, I was still there when that when that happened. Wow. And so you and and what what um, how was the city During that time like was he as impactful because today when you go to new islands and you mentioned any rapper Nobody has the essence. Nobody has the feel of talking about soldiers slim That he has like you can talk about a p in all of them But you can talk about a baby bury man all of them. But when you talk about soldiers slim, there's a difference I'm telling you it is and I want to know just from your perspective. Why is that? because even though He was living like he was living he had a different spirit You know what I'm saying? And I got to tell people right now if slim wouldn't have got killed The whole music scene in new allons would be Different because he was able to work with everybody and he wanted to work with everybody You know what I'm saying? Just like I say when he seen me And he came to me like that a lot of people not gonna do that You know I'm saying because even like Maybe like three weeks before he got killed could have been a month when I see him at the club because you know Everybody want to try to charge. You know I'm saying see I don't do stuff like that If I can work with him or work with you But everybody else everything they can have money, but it's still gonna hustle still to help you up They're gonna try to hustle. So I seen slim. I said slim. I said what you gonna Hit me for a verse And he told me he said more with you You real I'm real book the studio slim gonna be there. That's what he told me. Wow He said man, we ain't gonna do one. We're gonna drop some stuff for the city You know what I'm saying? Because he know what I did In the early 90s, you know, so I turned to sit up on a real gangsta music Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's why he said y'all we come up off your music You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people when they let a soldier They're they're like they hear a full shot. They're like hear a lot of soldier But you know that's who they come up listening to you know what I'm saying? But he was like as so What he was living at Why I say was living that was mama because I thought he was that girl lived down there. It was right down from peaches So what I used to do Every evening I'll be at peaches And you know what surrounded still was that it was right down with all the females paying. Yeah So when I ain't doing nothing, I'm spending my time at the door I'm at the door. I'm looking so he'll pull up in a Cadillac with the with the female So he knew I'm in there. So he's looking and when he sent me down, he's Wow I'm like, I'm like, man, you know, because I ain't right right now. You don't send a really Maneuver, but yeah, like He was a solid one But then we've met people who from New Orleans who Say that back then when Slim was actually alive people didn't give him as much love back then Compared to now being passed away. So, you know, when we tell them that no when we go down there Everybody loved him this this this and they're like, man, I was born and raised down there when he was living They wasn't giving him as much love as how they're giving him now. Yeah. Is that true? Yep Yep, it's like that. But they didn't they didn't realize his value And you know, you know, you don't miss nothing It's just gone. Yeah Like you just thought about those recollections of what happened you be like, man, that dude was the truth Come like that. Yeah, and I feel bad because I feel like I let him down You know what I'm saying? Because that's something he wanted to do. You know what I'm saying? Because he come up listen to rulers juvenile dog. I was he told me this Like he never just an order like that and he was like and I was like damn I should have I could have made a habit and pushed the ruler You know what I'm saying? But I wish I would have because you never know. Let me ask you about Sea murder that night because you you say you you mention that What was that temperature like because everybody says he's innocent He innocent, you know what I'm saying? Like I was sitting at the ball. Just like I'm sitting right here. Like what we live at Like I live in Jefferson, Paris Like our shelf harry league Like he was like The ultimate devil, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm talking about a matter of fact like One of my my neighbors one of my best friends they killed him Wow, I'm in the back of the head and I'm saying he came on the news And they asked him why he didn't find a warning shot because my friend he had a gun But he was a pertinent he was kind of like out of his mind a little bit and they shot him in the head Nobody said we trying to kill Oh, so so what what happened that night to your recollection of that night? Like all I heard a fight or something broke out And then I ain't never heard no hear nobody fighting. I just heard it pop I thought it was far work. You know what I'm saying? So then people's like man, somebody just got shot So when I look And I'm like man, so you already know you got to get about it y'all. How big is the club? Oh It was a nice decent club. You like how many people but how many people probably that club probably I used to own that club One time too At that time I had it was rollers. I can't remember that name but now because that was 20 years ago Yeah, that was 20 years ago. That was 20 years. I can't remember. I had it was club rollers But I can't remember what the name of it, but it's probably was like about a thousand A thousand people you'd have to go up stairs and stuff like that. Oh upstairs downstairs. Okay. Yeah But did you I mean because at this time master p neum was moving and grooving a lot of people knew they was popular Was it odd for for sea murder to be there? I'm telling you all of us slam meat everybody Chopper used to be there all of us used to be up in the club That was the place to be that was the that the club that was pumping You know I'm saying and just I was in west bank on the west bank. It was a hobby that we was at one for And so you hear the west you hear the pop that night. So when I hear the pop I'm really still sitting in the ball because I'm drinking at this time So then people like man They just shot somebody So when I get up and from one man, I can see the dance floor. So when I see the little guy all mad I know this jp. I'm out of here. Yeah, you know So I I blazed out. You know I'm saying then a couple days later Or whatever then they say they arrest sea murder But they help you like man, I do that and do that that do that and do that, you know I'm saying. Wow. So was he the biggest name there that night? Yeah, well I guess because slim was slim was there that night too You know I'm saying No, because you know, they always say they like Not saying that this is what happened in that case, but they always try to go after the biggest name that's around Well jp They like the feds Somebody gonna jail K gone. Do you know what I'm saying? They somebody gonna somebody gonna jail So after you when you when you sit back and think about it, man, you know, you know God was on your side because you could have been mixed up in any of that stuff at any time Being in those places where these things happen, you know I just say man, I know it was tough because anytime you look around we at the clubs we doing That's what we did when we was young man. So to see somebody get shot or killed It was a norm to sometime because of the club Reputation for that happening for for me. I can remember certain clubs you go to if somebody got killed We'll be there the next week. I'm not playing bro I mean, you can go down a list of people that we know innocent as in jail Yeah, I'm something like see but you know, everybody just don't see but we know other people that got caught up It's been happening. Wow. You know what I'm saying? I like I said, I definitely don't want to miss out on nothing I have a question. Um, you say you live Are you still talking about me? We can go ahead. Okay. You say you live in West Bank Harvey, right? And that's outside of New Orleans, right? Um, but I know a lot of people feel like do some people feel like that is New Orleans because I know like New Orleans have like the separation uptown downtown and all of that So what's the difference between where you are compared to uptown downtown and all of that the Mississippi River divide us That's it the Mississippi River, uh-huh and What I live at is Jefferson Parish Uptown And all that is all in Paris which we got all these Paris where New Orleans started at in ALJs, which is owned in West Bank That's what that's when you all installed it at but it's the river That divided to make it East Bank and West Bank. That's the difference But the culture everything everything the same That's just like I mean if you from all the time and you in new york You don't say all the time. You're gonna say Dallas Exactly, so it's new because it's all the same culture. You dress the sound you talk to sam You're doing the same thing because it's just and then, you know, New Orleans things like Dallas Shit, we can go anywhere in but 12 minutes. You know what I'm saying? I can I can actually go Uptown Downtown West Bank East all less than 15 minutes. That's what I thought. Let me ask you this about cheeky blackie artist Cheeky black. Yeah, let's talk about a torque torque. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You guys get on the show On the real okay creating that creating that uh that whole movement early like as you did Do you feel like you guys get the credibility? No Why is that because we're from New Orleans and They got clicks down and they ain't gonna tell it like it else. They ain't gonna just tell the truth What year did she start that movement? That's so that torque something They've been getting them a butt I must say 94 95 and people wasn't talking about torquing before that What out there we was what you didn't have the internet and all that, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, that's why the song was made outside of but outside of there. Nobody really was talking about torquing Well, New Orleans and the surrounding areas Weasley and and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying? Then when we it started in New Orleans and then we put The record out, you know, it started spreading all over. You know what I'm saying? Like how we used to like back then They have like you have certain words that you can say That get the clubs out. You know what I'm saying? Like what? Like Twerks up nigga. Yeah, yeah, I want a real That woman that can twerk with all of them. So like I had all of them Little guy on little golden. Yeah. Yeah, you know you like It's hype stuff that you just bump In the in the in the in the club. So that's why on original record that we did We did it live just like you do it in the club You know what I'm saying? But she was the first one to put it On wax with mobile drill records She was the first one to do it. Wow. And and and I think that's live, man Like like you just like like for you guys to be so embedded and for you guys to be so creative I want to say thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Gotta say that It's like it's it's it's crazy because now I'm mad and I'm like, damn All these years later and that's all they want to do is twerk That's what I say, you know what I'm saying? And I ain't gonna I'll be looking but I ain't gonna like If if it it's just it's just too much. It's just it didn't start up like that. It didn't got crazy. It's got exactly I'm like, bro, like It's like everywhere everybody So if anybody said the twerking started that twerk word and that the way y'all displayed it started anywhere else What would you say to that? Well, it started, you know with cheeky black and new wallets We was the first one put it on wax, you know what I'm saying and hot came across cheeky I was at a concert and she was doing all thing because back there you do is roll the Trigger man records and you give them the mic and she'd go So when I seen that, you know what I'm saying? I was like man I want to put it out and stuff like that and we put it on wax Well, because I had at this time I had done set the foundation for all the games to wrap already You know what I'm saying? So he had a lot of at first I was against bounce I wasn't trying to do bounce But then after I did what I did and I seen like they were like cheeky from the night wall You know what I'm saying? Rick could be shaking from the devil's from the east bank So people was giving them opportunities So I seen opportunity to put somebody position to win and that's what I did. Wow So, um, tell me about Because you you know, baby. Yeah, I know I know How are you and you met him for the first time? I met baby and slam at the studio. Um, I had to be like about I met baby and slam In the 91. Okay. Probably was like 23 22 That doesn't matter on that. But you we all was young But you heard about him before that before you actually never heard of him in my life. Oh, okay Never and if I never heard of me needed exactly never. So what was he like when you first met him? What was his work work ethic because you were in studio. So did you see him going to boo for and all that stuff? Now I was running before baron, baby. I want to go back. That's why Let me check that back I was a gang spitter before baby Okay, when I'm the first ceo out of new allons on that microphone Okay, so when you look at we got to go to master p first Okay, okay, and you see the movement of of calio and all that That's after your movement See, yeah When I started see what I when I started the head out of Groups out, but they didn't have no Labors like me and cash money. Me and cash money was the first labor. Pete ain't come to add them You know what I'm saying when you talking 92 93 94 with mobile join cash money So I'm saying now you had other labels came right after that You see I'm saying how long after I mean it was like it was like it was close heel toe heel toe Okay, you know what I'm saying, but then I I was the way I was you know my graphics and the music I was doing like we was rapping like in w a ghetto boys and stuff Like a lot of them guys was like bouncing over the beats We was rapping because I was moving around but go ahead boss I was just asking about the the even the bird man like our baby didn't cash money So I'm saying they brought the gangsta rap Well receipts Don't lie if you go and you pull up um Like my very first song My very first song that I recorded and um Ice mike shout out to ice mike on 1200s. He did my first track. He did my first ep I think debt had one track on now who's pimpin who but my very first song was called portrait of a villain And that song we was talking about killing each other. We killed the police in the video We got a video up to We killed the police in the video and the video still on youtube right now It's on youtube right now. Okay. Wow We beat the girl up kick out the car Wow, show me another label did that before mojo Wow Then right after that I dropped rootless juvenile the name of the album was hardest You know what I'm saying? We had songs like die niggum Hellbound Arm and dangerous. Do you think rootless juvenile helped juvenile to get his name? Now because jubi was already doing his thing with on With jim in them. He was already kind of doing his thing, but he was doing a boss thing like all I was doing Yeah, the boss thing at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Mm-hmm. Um, when you hear and this is something I heard I heard terrence gangsta williams say the gd wasn't a spoke person spoke to me that gdp You ever heard of gd? Yeah, I heard a gdp. Is he uh, is he young or is he too young or he young? But see that's the thing about if you want to be the the mouthpiece to new allens You got to be you you you got to be fair. You can't pick and choose You know, I'm sorry. Do you do you think that he picks and choose or why would you say that? Well, because You know, just why some of the things they post. Okay, I'm saying see when you in the media Are the news you you post you do with you know, you do news You don't pick. Yeah, what you call it? You're on bias unbiased So like to like people like like when I had the lawsuit Right. TMZ blew it out the water. Yeah, everybody did it people come back You know, man pd ain't post your sting man gd gdp, you know, I call I don't gdp I talked to him You know, I don't watch them all the time Why didn't why didn't he That he had international news actually did you ask he from new allens why I ask when you know So why didn't he I don't know You just said you know, oh, yeah from different sides of town. Or does that variate or no No, that ain't got nothing to do with it. It's like I guess they're picking choose their battles. I don't I don't really Ask them Then he might have posted and who told me that didn't see it, right You know what I'm saying, but you know, I don't really be looking But it's a lot of stuff that they don't really get I'm saying if you're gonna do this You gotta you know, you can't be biased I can tell you and just because I rock with him a lot and talk to him sometimes Yeah, I gotta I got his phone But the thing is when I asked him about you it was respect and you you're the culture And and he gave you utmost respect. I gotta say that When I talk to him and I'm not I'm not disrespecting them at no kind of way But when you when you ask him a question is he the most piece of all that's what they the spokesman is what they call Of New Orleans, you know I'm saying that's a lot of big You got a lot of rappers on the west bank that he never posted they'll put See I'm saying that's the thing if you're gonna be New Orleans you talk like if you want to just say you the spokesman of the east bank Cool, but it got a lot of you know rappers that's on The west bank and they all look at me as the og You know I'm saying so they'd be like, you know, I don't mess with this one because they don't do this Do that, you know, you got if you're gonna be you can't be biased Yeah, I mean I talk highly of him too, you know, so I text him and talk to him about certain things But I'm just saying things that people come tell me hopefully he'll see it And then he'll because he's gonna make a post about it Is he yeah, yeah, he's so that part of this side that side He know it I believe me know it because I always ask him about everything that I could see from here Or either I call KL, you know, I'm a yeah, I call a lot of people yeah, so basically I just like to Try to hear the story or or moby dick whoever I be trying to hey man What I needed because I want to make sure we cover all the boundaries when it comes down to y'all because I love y'all And I love what y'all bring to our culture, you know what I mean? So I just respect a lot Like the way I was ready, I would never talk down on none of my people that ain't what that ain't what I do But yeah, you know like when you ask what games to Sam, I'm like, you know, you can't be the Spokesman that's why he was saying um What is there's no rap cat podcast because like dude he put east bank and west people on his on his shows he put Everybody everybody it's him saying you can't be Bias, you know, I get it. I get it. So, you know, I'm saying that's the thing that the people gonna look at So if you really want that if you want that title You got to do that. See I'm saying see that's why I Was able to do what I did because I just told you when cheeky and rick and them and little gold to them didn't have an avenue The west bank country boy Legend mobile joe. Boom. Boom. Boom here eat. We all eat Is all I want monster there was so there wasn't anybody in New Orleans out that side that you wouldn't have worked with No, I ain't nobody ain't got no problem with nobody No problem with nobody I want to go back to you that uh, I do think I do think Um Like we came over to juvenile, right? Yeah, we had um It had a thing going on bust down and Tim smooth resting piece to Tim smooth I put an album out on Tim to franchise player bust down Yeah bust down shout the bust down and they had a little issue at the club that was in hall there with these guys from The night wall called most wanted posse is a west bank thing was a west bank thing a west bank thing, right? So Right before our draft That left few was going on right so when that draft We was finished the rootless album the lower level was already out. So we was finished the rootless but It was all gangsta So I was like I made them do run that shit. It was a bonus record Yeah, they didn't want to do it but I made them do it because the project offensive We shut down for like two weeks because they didn't want to do it. So when they wind up getting that down We on was coming back to My house because I had a pre-production studio at my house at that time The most wanted record was on a ready. Yo at the end of the record There was like saying there was this and bust down on that, but there was like on Anybody that saw the water get it, you know what I'm saying? when I was 16 17, I've been my first two kids and desire project. That's the night wall. That's okay. That's the hometown new wall That was like one of the worst projects at that time. So I'm saying so I had a call when I was 15 16 so I was moving around I was raised by the older men in my neighborhood. I had money. I knew how to make money and stuff So I was going to where I won't go. So They always had this thing that's them Dudes from across the river, you know, yada yada yada, but I'm a man. Where about I go? I'm not a gangsta. I'm not a killer I'm a man And I'm a respect a man a man all respect me So they always had this so we was already, you know, getting into what dudes over there So when they made that song, that's when I told the little guy from the juvenile to just Make a diss record Disregard, you know, he was just this and them But he was like, you know the same thing they say like anybody want it if it's gonna be up. It's up So I think that right there kind of gap Mobile from some of the people not the real ones But the fake ones that wanna have animosity against the west bank But hi king because we got family on both sides y'all got family though, you know what I'm saying? So that's the thing Let me ask you I want to ask you about the big elephant in the room You know when I do my interviews, I always the elephant in the room the elephant in the room for me when I When I talk with you I was on the phone. I told my wife's story. I was on the phone. I was listening at this guy playing the playing the guitar Before before that email came through playing a guitar and he was singing all these melodies He was singing each song and he would say they sound like each other because he was being sued for redoing the song and then phone your email came through and I said man I didn't even stop to look the email then I said let me check this email and I said damn It's talking about somebody then took somebody's song and I and I just in the first day when I Started news you can use the first thing I ever talked about was mobile Joe song I never met this guy, but I was like man It this sound sound a song sound like um that the same glow really tomorrow. I was like man and then To have you here now. That's how God worked for me. I'm telling you it be confirming like boom boom boom like this I don't even know how it happens But I know it's sent from God for me the way I believe you know what I'm saying So when I seen out like I got to get him on the show it had nothing to do with You it was already some channel to me before I even talk to you. Yeah, that makes sense Yeah, it makes it because it's like When you live right and you treat people right this universe Bless you right. Yeah, so you know I'm saying when I like it's like like your wife said nothing happened by accident Okay, so when I get the When I call you I said man, we got to talk we want I want you to come on the show As well, you know when you can get up here as soon as you can get up here Let's do this and you was like, okay, I'm gonna come do it. Okay, and I heard this song and when I heard it You guys's version Had the same tempo boom boom, you know that same that same When did you make that song that song that from the doghouse pause the streets of the west bank streets of the west bank Release that was my third release streets of the west bank. This one right here. Yeah. Yeah, this one did that beat That That did the bill. Okay. He did he did all of this. Listen to this That's it Okay, but then The the the confrontational uh, the the thing that's that that we are comparing it to is the uh The one with uh, glorial I want to Start on sound So Somebody takes this we talk to ice about loops all the time people stealing people's loops and The kids from overseas making loops today, but you don't have company Everybody don't have the resources to be watching this stuff all the time like they do correct So just tell us how how did you even end up hearing that this had happened? Like you you this your song this your craft and how long after it's been out Did you hear about it? Oh man, hold on I should have had it ready to go the song drop on September 25th That's midnight. That's when it that's when they drop. Mm-hmm and I got I think it dropped it dropped at midnight and I got the text at 1250 something. Oh, so that's saying a faint out of charleston Charleston, South Carolina. Yeah, I'm gonna show y'all when I get off. I can't pull it up right now Okay, you know just text it to me so I can come up. I'm gonna show I'm gonna put it up on the screen text me He texted he he me on facebook messages. He said oh gee He saw me in the I'm gonna show you the video come show it all to you of the video We called it in glorella. He had that and at the bottom the same time when it came out Yeah, like that's less than an hour. That's less than an hour after it came out. I got the greatest friends in the world I'm telling you they they know because they came up Listen, I was doing it so heavy in the early 90s and I was doing it on a national level You know I'm saying the quality of my music where I had them little boys rapping. We was really doing it So I'm saying so a lot of people know my music. So when he heard it Soon when he heard it he was like he was on it. So he sent it to me and I get a lot of people sending stuff on facebook I didn't much catch it right then and out because he had They video and I'm gonna show you had streets of the west bank and he got like a little cold face Like that's cold. It took your stuff. Wow. I didn't catch it. So I when I woke up. I just hit him 100 I didn't much look at it So so when did you realize the lady who published the songs and stuff with me About seven o'clock that night. She called me because she knew my social media So she was like Joe. She saw you see what that guy was telling you I said I seen some but not what he was telling me like they really stole your song. They tell you they stole your song So that's when I went back So when I heard it, I was like, yeah, so that you produced this, uh Mm-hmm. You made the beat That made the beat. Okay. Yeah And when he made the beat y'all you you basically put out this music and and You did you did everything right everything right then the thing about it it was like You know The song was published all of stuff was right there. It could just when got the sample cleared And that's right in it and bam bam bam You know I'm saying like when the lawsuit came out You got all these little big brand people like like to call them because they think they know everything and they go to speaking It's all He going after money and all that let me say something When I came up Them old men told me exercise your right. Yeah, I don't care because the police or whoever exercise your right You take something for me. I'm coming I'm coming for it. So I'm saying but y'all so big brain You know I'm saying and thank y'all know everything The song came out in September the lawsuit was filed in april See, that's what I was wondering So did you actually contact them in between the lawsuit and when it came out to say hey, I'm just telling you If it came out in September I had information in September comma since I had to reach out, right And then when I reached out and so many words like my lawyer said They admitted it because they try to come with a low ball. Then they stopped responding So what you do next you just lay down now and let them take everything like they've been taking it from us No, you know, you know saying then you got you know people or he going as as the After all this and all that like the on the new girl in the buckle club Yeah Yeah She went at you well, she ain't went at me but some of my but some of yeah because She said don't go at all Don't go after all this and stuff like that But she the artist she automatically gonna be involved and there's no news without hope You know what's gone, but it's it's hot and et cetera who all involved right you say do you think When they speak it's power in words and it's power behind these platforms, you know And they have an influence on people when you hear people like jesson People speak on your music because I know charlamagne. He was like, yeah, it sounds like he's charlamagne said Paid at the man and paid a man paid a man exactly charlamagne. He'll always He I think he our south representer to be honest with you. That's why I love I love that Said it too. He said I hear the piano and everything. You know what I'm saying Hey, come on man 30 now these kids ain't nothing wrong. Yeah. Oh, I'm glad for them You know, because you gotta think about the artist These young artists don't know your music from back then some of them They they they jesus, you know what I'm saying? But that's what I think. This is my take I think a og like me and you come up off of mobile your records That's his little nephew a little what to call him, you know what I'm saying He told him college another song and see like he tried to play and it didn't come out right You know, man, so I guess I'm telling you take it. It's gonna work That's right. Yes. I love it. Oh, did it glow? She don't really know. She don't know. She's a rapper You know, I like it. Why is we mad because If I wasn't a businessman and I was a big brand dummy, I could have made him stop the money You could have you could have stopped it. Yeah, you could have made him take it down Man, I'm both saying don't do that. That's what I do. You can make him take it down So when y'all talking about I'm coming at home and all that this this is our biggest record Right now, this is big enough. Look at the numbers. It's bigger. So if I was a evil, no good person I could have crushed a young girl. Yeah, I could have crushed them. You could have crushed They don't they don't teach you business like I told my parenting So they don't tell me this how they work. So she could have made a perform the song or do nothing Yeah, you could have shut her down and she'd have been like, you know what I'm saying? She could have and anything that could have happened. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because like I am I just this called it on here. There's somebody, you know, I look up to I got this song and now because The the bosses Didn't drop the ball on the kids Wow, when you think about the bosses, you got people that are are in are very much in too The other ones in the lawsuit. Yeah, but but when you think about it from a perspective of a glorilla You have to think about cmg. You have to think about your guiding them as well because all of these people are clearing this music Let's be real That's cmg because my lawyer just got them on another guy from now on now So someone tells us a lawsuit. Really? Yeah. So so they had a they got another lawsuit No, this one here been handled. They lost it. It's over. Yeah, it's over. I don't want to speak on it But it's done been over, but it was on the news though. Yo, so it's public information. It was on the news It was with jmk. You know what I'm saying, but I don't know all the detail I see with them on the news when he won it in federal code So does with her being signed to cmg. Don't that put you back in that situation? I have to go at them about this music because she she signed to him Yeah, I know but all limits added in the sue everybody involved is added in the Because her name is but just yeah, it is is is is Glorella because she the artist because she the artist everybody is fall below That's the that's that's the the click for everybody. That's the news. Right. She hot. She hot. Yeah, you know, I'm saying So bam, you know, I think you'll be caught up in something like this and it's the nh Man, I need this You know But in the music industry, this is very common we've seen this many times before But the thing like I was saying, I think somebody put the little guy on it Because I got a deep catalog. You know, so I got a real deep catalog And like I say, I'm looking to come out and let's do more business because if they can't go in there and do that Like, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I can never be mad at these kids When you can go in there and create something like that 30 years old and come back And make this kind of money get you out the hood. You know what I'm saying? But this is the thing I didn't like when all the people saying these guys right here, you know, all it was when we did this how it was 1516 the producer the one made to be in these two guys So you think because there's stuff 30 years old you don't want to eat off their own stuff You know what I'm saying? I was like 20 something years old. Oh, they still I'm saying which ones are still around All of them all of them. I'm in contact with all of them. What do they want them in jail? But you know what you didn't contact with all of them all my orders. I have no problem with them I have no problem with nobody I have no problem about the dope with Yeah, nobody did music with yeah, I did trucking with yeah because my daddy was a boss He told me how to do good business. Wow. You know what I'm saying? I'll walk away from some bull crap I do business like boss talk Hey, that's what I'm talking about because like how y'all had that paperwork. That's how I do business It's business So I'm saying people don't want to do business like they didn't want to say boom You know what I'm saying? Like I was telling my cousin about the just do good. I said about the video You should video We going back and forth. So you know why we're going back and forth because you don't have the paperwork If you had paperwork and go to paperwork and say why you the boom boom boom this is what it was said This is what it's supposed to be. Mm-hmm, but y'all just want to get the money. You know what I'm saying? But when you do your business, right? Oh So what you think about her song anyway? I love it I've been I've been liking glow from from from jump. I've been liking her music and stuff that she was doing I'm glad for man. I'm gonna say because like the publisher she wanted to stop the music I'm not not a crush that that's a crush that kid. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you know what I'm saying? I can't do that You know not in today's society where if you stop it She's gonna have to come back with something else because you can't just put that back And you know how hard it is to get a big record like that stuff not easy Especially with with all the music coming out You know what I'm saying? It's not easy. They should take that into consideration when they're settling Huh, they should tell you What did you think about it when you seen it come on the breakfast club like that? Oh, man, I was I was Rolling on on on on on the road. So my own nephew his girlfriend called me She said boy, you trending you turn even on a breakfast club and all I had to go back and listen to What was breakfast club one of the only ones that covers you which one which one which other was everybody All the same They was going in because people was like I was coming at it But then one guy broke it all the way down how I go a lot of people like man, you know, this how I go yada yada yada You don't say you talking about with the guy that's so so puffed at if I'm not getting that clearance Probably I gotta put that man every every own week every day You know what I'm saying? So it was like good in a way it came off better for me Because I wouldn't be On boss talk Like I talked to my lawyer Because he he put he we found a lawsuit on that third he called me and he was like on I'm about to email you the lawsuit and yada yada. I'm about to file it whatever Soon when he filed it my partner Call I ain't much new. I had just got the commerce texas He said man, we just hit TMZ I'm like, no, you're like add then from now Foreign was gone off on the next day and I'm smiling crazy Yeah, man, I like it though because you deserve it man. You worked your butt off. I did man I pay man. I pay my dues man. Like I say like a lot of people don't understand, you know, like when I started the music Um, I just might be my first project. I spent like 10 grand on equipment my own money Nobody give me no dollar. You know what I'm saying? My pre-production studio was in my house. I had a full bedroom house It was being my two sons And my girlfriend in that other room, you know, I mean a nice was up making these songs and doing all this You know what I'm saying? Like come on man. Like so I'm just gonna lay down No No, I think I'm in the 60s, baby. We don't we don't we don't lay down. Ain't no laying down. We don't lay down man. I will go ahead baby. Um, I had a question because I don't when we're talking earlier You mentioned bounce music a lot and you said you never really just you know got into that or did the bounce music Who created bounce music? Everlast the hit man in my book Why that's my little brother. He passed away resting peace. Huh? Why him because I heard it was somebody else You ever heard this song? What's the song? Bounce baby bounce. Come on. Come on. You heard the song, you know the words of the song I listen to the beat. I'm I'm a beat. All right. Who you say they say? They said it was T.T. Tuck and um, B.J. Erv Okay, so Y'all started balls talk, right So 101 for sure 101 balls talk 101. So if I come out right now and I start saying I started balls talk 101 I'm gonna defend that right because y'all started that. Yeah, so Tucker was living all these people who say they said create bones, right? He said Everybody running around biting Tucker shit. They just don't know that I'm the nigga the nigga nigga What he told y'all what he was live? He telling y'all so if you then he said When I come around you'll set you better boot up. That's a new all-in-think boot up mean fight You know challenge. So if you think you created boot up, let's get on the mic right now Let's get on the mic You know what I'm saying? So if he telling you plus I grew up with him, he was like he was younger than me You know what I'm saying? And I heard to hurt him kick it before tucker came out But kid in Tucker was in and out of jail But explain that why y'all ain't said nothing why the man was living when he said it in this song He was coming all like he got all over doing so and nobody couldn't doing for no show pull his song up and read some of the comments Why would want to comment? Say I'm gonna show y'all that too. I don't want to look it up. I'm gonna show y'all Man comments. How long did bounce come after? Gangster out no bounce was first. That's what they was doing everybody like well, let me say this The west bank rappers All right before the west bank started getting on rubber. It was Gregory D Spotted tea And man it fresh. Okay. That's who really was doing The music, right? Then, you know, you start having your um Tim smooths and bust downs and my rubber one stuff like that So all the west bank rappers we was really rapping We him won't do bones, but Tim smooth buzzed down Thick rap about the streets, you know what I'm saying? He just said that basically that one song that really really did something but When them little guys came around they're 15 16 years old I'm in the I don't like to say the streets. I was in the drug war world. Okay, you know what I'm saying? So they seen how I'm living and doing that. So they're rapping about what they're seeing and what I'm telling them You know what I'm saying? So I was the first one really rapping about what we really was Doing and you said y'all wouldn't do bounds it why why y'all wouldn't do bounds? Because was it too soft for you and you had to be hard. Is that what it is? Yeah, yeah That's what that's exactly what it was. That's what I would think but I love it though. Yeah, because I love it because it's a new All this thing. I love it because when I think about I think about new honest I just ain't wanted to do it because Like I come up on hard music You know what I'm saying? I come up in an era when you had to drop balls ll cool. J jazz ice On boogie down production cool modi. You know what I'm saying? Then when loose skywalking came out to live crew I liked it that gritty, you know nasty crazy stuff. You know what I'm saying ice tea That's the stuff I come on for so that's what I want to do But I loved it the balls because like I say hit man You know, I knew him before he started He ever came out on whack because he's the rap when he was real young You know what I'm saying? And he's the step my house and everything the night he got killed I give him 500 of his songs. He came out and got 500 songs Love my house less than 30 minutes. Wow 500 songs. Wow. I mean you you talked about was it gregory d Gregory did he mentioned? Mac was a Mac was one that rocked with him early on How lyrical would you say mac was when he come down to rhyme and skiing? Oh mac get down I remember I mac get mac get down. So you had to get down back then Yeah, you had to get down back then, you know what I'm saying mac come on the grade and all of them like that So you had to get down. Yeah mac get down And if he hadn't gotten locked up he would have exactly Really exactly. Yeah, he was another one we interviewed that was falsely, you know Pretty much they just incarcerated incarcerated me blamed him for something that he didn't do and I just that that was a tough Louisiana man, they got I know tdt um Texas did tdc whatever Texas department. I'm correct in the game. No, they don't play Like I got a cousin from from fifth wall. Man, man been pretty much About six some time And they don't play they ain't trying to let you go But Louisiana did just throw you away like they're lying on their railroad Like I remember when I was young and um, I just moved to desire project And then this little guy man like 15 years old they threw this man away And they got this man on a videotape at a basketball game and it still wouldn't let him out That man did probably about 25 30 years Come out and sue them or none What about and gd brother he he locked up his brother too. No, like it's a lot going down there in new Orleans and texas man. We got more prison than ever It's just crazy, but at the end of the day man god god still in charge Yeah, exactly. It don't matter man. Like you don't matter even if they down there. They're helping somebody down there Like right now, man, we gotta you know We got us like Things don't change now. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of different avenues that we didn't have that We got to accept now man and people gotta you know Change you know what I'm saying? Like it's all right to be a a young fool by pity old fool Like man, like I listen to the dude they talk about the ratting stuff, you know what I'm saying? but everything Is still by the same system the ratting system the prison system the Poverty System the gangster in my in my mind a gangster's only relevant In the black community and on the tv Young yellow racist talking about man, my uncle gangster You know what I'm saying? You don't help people say that because that what was sold to us. That's what they showed us That's what they give us But then you know what people talk about the prison systems But I've heard some people say you know prison systems saved my life because if in some cases it's a lot of cases Like if I mean it took though right because if I was never arrested sometimes it might take two three times to get arrested I don't for sure been dead But also you got to look at if you wouldn't trapped into poverty prison system wasn't been in I gotta ask you about this. I gotta ask you about um cash money um West bank um No limit There that these are all separate sides of town, right? Yeah, I'm on the west bank, but they uptown they like boom boom. They're right down. They're right by each other Yeah, why do you think that they never have come together? I have ever did anything together being you've been in the music game a long time So that's one of the things that our people always ask that question a lot of time We can't get a straight answer from none of y'all So I mean when you when you got a wall going on and you got casualties involved It's hard To get past that But a lot of it has to do with ego because if you can see a greater good That you can bring it together for the greater good. Why not? Well, everybody ain't gonna see that. Do you think that ever happened? That will they ever do anything again? I got I came Like like bird man said the best he said he don't see no reason for it now You know what I'm saying? I heard him say that so I mean I gotta leave it right down like what can they do now anyway? Is him saying like you know, I mean it would be good For us as a race of people for just them to have a set down That'll be big right now, right? You know I'm saying that you know that this stuff can be squashed, you know I'm saying before getting together and doing music I don't really like he said I don't really see that. No, it's just a sit-down. You know, I'm saying I'm really talking about really just a sit-down. Yeah. Well sit down. I mean it would be huge I think I agree with you and I think it couldn't happen because I see both of them grow They don't say I see I see both of them grow especially Stunner Stunner. I see I see I respect where he at I look I like how he's looking how he's moving everything. I like that. You know what I'm saying? So I think you know it could happen if somebody can get it put together Yes, you know what I think people don't do Y'all rappers have A lot of these young kids looking up to y'all in a lot of ways just like how you you know you looked up to rappers when you were growing up And they started this thing with this you know segregation. They're over here. They're over here different teams so to say And yes, they're growing up, but these younger people that's below them coming up In that same sort of way Represent in the same way although they weren't really so-called involved back then at that time So it's like it makes it seem like it's a never-ending cycle So to me the only way to break that cycle is Yeah, a sit down. I'm telling me it'd be it'd be great. Just just to have them sit down and Pick their brains to heal how they feel and what you call them. It was like Gucci man and jesus Yeah, that was big, but it was kind of weird. Yeah, it was kind of It was kind of crazy You know what I'm saying? But that's what I'm saying. They should do a sit down because that could have went left You see what I'm saying? Yeah, so set down like like like like boss talk one-on-one. So now on a real and man So just get it out for the kids Can see yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, we can do that on boss talk But we that would that would be crazy if we set Birdman down and Master P down and slim down Hey, right here Man, that'll be crazy, man. You know what I'm saying? So I mean I never thought of it We all would think about the music But what you said just an absolute just a set down a conversation because you got to understand I got to say this when k.l. Was here. He told me about a time in his house You seen that episode? When he was on here about that And I see him talking about it. He said yeah, he said they was in the house both of them Wrapping to a body body freestyle in the body body when they were younger Yeah, so they have been in those rooms together and I heard both of them talk highly of each other Like they respect each other hustle, you know what I'm saying? But I think since boss talk one-on-one put in the universe not a universe work. It's gonna happen We always try I mean, you know, you gotta understand words words are more than words did make things happen Yeah Yeah, you know I'm saying so we definitely come in a game different. Y'all y'all just made it happen. It's done Wow I just gonna sit down because like we at a whole new day now It's our time as a race of people to come together and do it like it needs to be done And you might not see the change right away because the way how life is we might don't see now We might not see the nor time That would be such So big for future for you gotta think about our kids kids You gotta think about our kids kids On a real man, it's not it's it's it's no nobody gonna lose It's all it's all it's a win-win situation. Y'all are winners like who losing Nobody gonna lose. It's just a win A friendly conversation Wow, let me ask you about this guy that come from down there in New Orleans Who some say is the best rapper alive man this guy Some this man that Taurus ain't that that Dwayne that Lil Wayne. I want to talk about Lil Wayne I want to talk about the fact that I want to talk about Lil Wayne I want to talk about because these youngsters coming here some of these young see you I realize the generational gaps That's what I look at. I've seen different people come in different stages say different ones to go Like if you said you might say man, who would you say is the goat of rap period? Period period About to go with one man. See that's hard. I just asked for one. I don't want no I don't want nobody else right now. Just one that one that you say is the goat of rap Cal res one Wow I'm gonna say rock him See this the thing how I see you hear what I just said Rock him cold He called the style he changed the whole style of rap for me But this this is how this is how I view Rap like that when you talk about a no battle rapper or whatever and stuff like like that okay Like I put a post of a few years ago. I said Tim smooth If I had to make a vote for the best rap out of new all in the Representative it'd be Tim smooth because when I say that And I said Cal res one what I look at Okay, if you said These two rappers down And you say, okay these words and these things you can't use A lot of them are the equation. You can't use kill. You can't you Be you can't use this a lot of them is out But see a person like Cal res one Tim I don't heard them that they can dig in at Wichita company can come from all different levels angles Yeah, yeah, even like like um rock him. He good But care Cal res one to put out so much of material On so many different levels. You know what I'm saying? He can get on different levels That's the thing It's I'm saying now you just got rappers up that they can just say anything and do anything They might say bbbbb ten times But when you takes some stuff of the equation say, okay, you got a rap about this but you can't say this and can't say that You don't think Eric Eric being rock him would have got around there man I got a lot of different things man. I can't I'm gonna go there with you. I can't I can't let easy I can't say that can't get around it But I'm saying up against Cal res one. I think it's gonna be bro. I love carers. What do that? I just love the way he was about the knowledge and the way that he would put things together So I get it. You listen to like a lot of He listened to hi rock him style and his style. It's cold thinking of a master plan Look, I'll tell you what you must learn. That's what you you think about Love's gonna get you would you you see him when he had that battle that on verses, huh? You see why the verses you see what happened? Well, you see what happened, huh? different times man And that Man right there. He was on stage where that's his boy He get down to big daddy big daddy can't get down one of the best to do it man get down I love all those. That's what people don't understand. I love I love those guys because Those guys in that era was a different era and not those are the patriarchs now a lot of these new ones They come up under them and and I got to talk about this because I've been talking about this a lot lately So y'all got to hear about it The way that they you know that like I told you during that time you brought a bus down earlier People don't think about the records and the music that you guys was putting out in the south During this time they ignore that that phase of of hip hop That's why pmc called it country rap to him because he was offended by the way they ignored what we do down here A lot of people say oh man, it ain't like that no more with internet Yeah, but it is because you don't hear them bringing those things up until somebody tries to take your song Then you gotta recognize you're doing something. So you were doing something during those times that would have been totally ignored Exactly because of what happened with glow rilla now. They got it not as effective in 1990. What three three is 1993 when you had different things coming out from eight ball mjg from Ugk all that stuff. We was rocking back then but people bust down People were making music back then. You know what i'm saying making a real big mic big mic was music Yeah, fifth ward boys and the ghetto boys But when you start talking about top music now I just don't think they give us to just do you know what i'm saying And and and i'll i'll scream it until they hear me Down there in the south because we had some dope people making music Like it was the rest of piece of paper. That's why it was we did a lot of shows back there And on club strawberry with them. You did someone with his shows No, no, no, no strawberry. You met pmc Him and bomb with this we stayed at club strawberry man. Yeah, give me a pmc something What did pmc say to you when he met you? I ain't gonna lie. Me and pmc never He ain't never i i ain't say i said we did shows with now bum. I talked to bum a lot Pimp was dope. I never had a conversation with never did but but you did talk to bum b Yeah, I don't smoke with bum at all It's funny how they you know opposites do things together because they were so different, but yes so close You know what i mean? Yeah, they were they were brothers man But but but they were brothers But they had different ways of doing things right they did they did like we was to do shows after the shows On pimp he'll have females when he go, you know to his room or whatever and stuff like that bum He'll hang out just like he is now. Yeah, you know, he's down already boom boom dope dude man. Yeah. Yeah, I love the culture He is the culture you the culture Love my people down here man. We doing our thing So what about checking in do you think that people should check in? I'm gonna ask you that question because that's a big thing with when people travel Do you think when I come to your city? I need to check in with Mobile joe There was no checking that when I was back in the day I don't know just go wherever I mean, that's how it was, you know, this this this this new stuff that they be doing man. It's just We're starting our own people. Wow, you know what I'm saying? It's starting out and that's sad right. Yeah, they checking in and you lose the people on your own watches Don't just wow, that's even what you just said. Don't it don't make sense You know what I'm saying? It don't it don't make sense. You know what I'm saying? I got a question. So I want you to give me your top three legends See man, how long in New Orleans? music Top three legends Your top three See some of the people out my name y'all like that's fine. Name it. Well The first is gonna be The Tories a the guy I started with that's how that's gonna be my first, you know what I'm saying? Cuz like number one choice. Yeah, because like if you go back Right now and listen to portrait of a villain Listen to the title Listen to everything he say We living it right now He showed everything in the video. You know what I'm saying? bam and I'm gonna go with um Tim smooth till smooth. Okay. I'm gonna go with Tim and he from down there. Yeah, Tim. He passed away the rest of people Yeah, he um Tim smooth and number three top three legends man, I gotta say Folk Shop rulers juvenile Because he'll pack a lot of people like when you moving around say that name again Folk Shop rulers juvenile wow like like everybody be like You know I'm saying like the way he delivers flow It's just like, you know, I'm saying nothing like it. You know, I've been trying to get so much more out of him But yeah, he really he really liked that. Wow And that's so crazy when you think about New Orleans and you think about legends You know, a lot of people would be looking to hear you say Master P A baby all of them folks and you didn't I mean you talk about legends. He's older So Rappers or you talk about legends legends period I'll I'll name them as Rappers legends as rappers. Now when you talk about legends I'm the one I mean, I lead the foundation Man, I led the foundation. I know this so basically they didn't they wouldn't nobody wasn't doing this before you Mobile Joe legend Birdman second Master P third legend I always thought P came before Birdman In legend status. No, I ain't talking about legend status. I'm talking about when it came out. I'm not done But he he he took off before Birdman for his the priority the deal the you You see what I'm saying? Well, yeah, well, uh, he was doing his thing independent more You see I'm saying, okay. He had a little Leverage owners because he had to california because that's what he was You see like I'm telling you if you go back and you check from like 89 All the way proud to like 96 and stuff like that When you came in that area right there if it was a Ghetto boy if I saw I had a record so I saw a surrounding two peaches If they saw one ghetto boys They saw 20 locals Which could have been mobile Joe records. It could have been cash money records It could have been big ball record an untouchable record come in slaughterhouse come at no limit We were selling All them because we had it what you call sometimes and that's how The deals came about because people's doing independent because see People's like me see I was crossing state lines I was crossing state line before music. You know what I'm saying because I was going to the capital Down in houston. You know what I'm saying? So capital the de-capital. You know what I'm saying? It was a de-capital. I know baby. You know what I'm saying? But so I I was already and then he was coming to california. So that's like that's why my music got Long jeopardy because you know boom boom boom, but that's what made them May just start looking because they're not missing them sales there You see I'm saying that just like you you got a lot of sales coming in your store and then your sales stop You know what I'm saying? They're gonna know, you know, like you got like change stores. They got these people called troubleshooters When people stealing money or something happened. They're gonna send them troubleshooters. They're gonna figure out What's going on and that's when they did then they start boom boom boom Then I went to jail in 98 You know I'm saying and cash money when they started dropping that bg Volume one volume two. I was left. I said when I was about to go I knew you know what I'm saying boy It was and bg was but you put it down and I I love I love um bg music You you knew moby dick, right? I I don't think I never met moby, but I know of him. Oh, you know I'm saying I never I don't think I I think I met him maybe like one time. I met pete like He came in when it when pete came Back and he was starting to do the music camp but he was down to the first down so he came by the store I met him now and he had another record store Honestly was on canal street and headed in character and I've seen him now one day That's the only time I ever really was in pete company moby I probably met him. You know what I'm saying? I met k l a couple of times. You know what I'm saying, but k l Um Brutus juvenile little badness. That's who you know, k l kind of know all because he knew his um His dad or whatever and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but um like I say by me having met Slim and baby at The studio As seen each other. That's how we started building. You know what I'm saying? What can you say about slim? He don't talk a lot I'll find out my book secret minds of a millionaire through slim Just a slight conversation of him talking and I thank him for influencing me with that book You know what I'm saying, but what can you tell me about? This guy who never talks Good dude I've heard that good dude and he always you know trying to make sure he help his people You know I'm saying like here to remember what you'll just keep going. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but like people say stuff about stunner man stunner Stunner was cool Like I ain't got so you think you get a bad rap because a lot of people talk about stunner. I'm a big fan I have arguments on here about him because I'm a fan because I know what a boss is See, that's why the name of the show boss talk one-on-one Let's see that thing of all is different When you do business with a person on that day was so the music and stuff like that You know I'm saying and I met him. You know I'm saying but you know We chopped it up several times so I came to nothing bad because that ain't my experience with him You see I'm saying that other people, you know sir, but I look at Like this how I look at it right on the real like To me We all gonna make mistakes You know I'm saying and I just listen to what people say like I listen to him on one of his interviews You know I'm saying and I don't Say nothing bad about people and he was talking And on he said how the thing blew up the music blew up real fast. You know I'm saying and it was actually him on What he was different now? He said man, I got people in place to pay people Plus he went back and made it right with his guys. You know I'm saying because they're still messing with it And I don't know they're still messing with them. They are millionaires. They are millionaires all of them. You know I'm saying so it's like You know if Him and I wouldn't took the chances It wouldn't be these people. You know what I'm saying and a lot of My artists like that, you know, they think man, you know what I'm saying for boom the same way with him Like they see it You know what I'm saying But I don't think he deliberately set it out to mess over people But I didn't do business with him But my thing is If you do something wrong make it right and in my eyes the man made it right Wow. You know what I'm saying? Now you might ain't got all your ducks. You know what I'm saying? But you ain't no on Street duel because You lost in the streets, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I got a million out of them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah And everybody I know I mean resting piece to own the guy of my Memphis who got killed He told you all the time. I'ma money. Yeah on the street dog You know what I'm saying? So like you gotta be willing to lose man order to win, bro Wow, that's me. You know what I'm saying? So man, like I can't say nothing bad about them people man. I'm not gonna say nothing bad about it. No, no, no You know what I'm saying? New Orleans finest anyway. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I think you'll stand up guy, man I pray and hope everything work out for you on that case Yeah, with your music, you know what I'm saying? And and whenever it do make sure you come back on boss talk one on one. I want to hear the I want to hear the follow up the follow up. We're gonna do a follow up on yeah We're gonna follow up on the fact of you know, uh You know, you got it straight, you know, bring your boy a little souvenir or something. You know, I like uh, Little few things every night to check my style out. You know, I got a little shirt or something I don't know. You know, whatever you think old boy, you know, could use Do this for me boss don't get me a sit down with jiggle man Uh-oh Kevin loud and we're gonna be With some more bosses that we're gonna You know what I'm saying the real legend gonna get his ship And you say you've been watching boss talk. What is it about boss talk that you love so much? I like cuz y'all talk about the real stuff. This is what I'm about. You know, I'm saying this is growth You know, I'm saying like I don't be trying to go and all that ghetto gossip stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? I'm not in that no more. You know what I'm saying? So I like, you know the environment The history man. Yeah the history of the stuff y'all doing. That's why soon when I knew I was coming I started reaching out I reached out since last week. Yeah, I just seen that Like Okay, I didn't know That email popped through and um, I work with The um, miss gold do all good in the hood and husband is named endo. He need prayers. He down and stuff But um, they been in the building doing the rap tv shows for a long long time and I remember right before he went down He said more he said no matter how big or how small Do the interview? Wow. That's what he told me. That's me do the interview and Everybody's same size in my eyes Wow, you know what I'm saying? I like it. So that's why but I really appreciate you. You know, I rather, you know Talk about stuff that can help people because like like I said the old man in my neighbor I got to like I was on the dining show I kept telling him I was raised by rich black men. You know what I'm saying? I I do this little show called a lackamon show to why I just dropped the finale and I was trying to I see told me that the other week. It was his name hills. Um, I don't know. I caught y'all Yeah, I see I used to on here too. Yeah, but hills was uh, uh It did drop he dropped daily daily game So he dropped jewels. They're like you just say that was everything and like like I was breaking down Because like people see when I went for a lawsuit. So first thing they said, oh, he broke. He broke. He broke Man, I didn't work on stuff. I got I got two many ways to feed myself My whole life my only prayer life was freedom helping strength. I'm gonna do for me and mine You know what I was trying I had broke down the difference between having money Being Broke and being rich. It's a difference Because having money is having money Because you got people that can have money and still be broke broke mentality broke mentality. You know what I'm saying? So if You Can also be rich What are you at now? I understand nobody can't give you that street life no more So I'm saying so you got people with money That's still broke that's still doing that because they're not rich and now they did they got stuck where it was at You know what I'm saying? So that's the type of stuff. I'll be really into and I'll see y'all be really But I really appreciate y'all man The real Boss talk 101 the legendary mobile joe in the building Wow, um like uh tell him Instagram Facebook my Instagram. Yes, sir. My Instagram is mobile m o b o That's how you spell it m o b o camp c a m p nine zero because I represent the nineties On youtube go follow me on youtube YouTube is mobile camp records. That's where all my videos at you know what I'm saying I also got the um the lack of most show and on facebook I'm mobile joe man m o b o j o e The pioneer of new allans games to rap In the building man, you know question. Believe, you know, like I said, sir It got to me like in the nineties uh somebody said that uh Burry man might have beat you to the draw, but I'm not gonna go there with you today I ain't gonna say some stuff. I hear I hear this I like to I like to have a little sit down on bird man Man, you know what I'm saying? I was glad for him though. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie man. I I love to see my people win. It doesn't it doesn't matter. You know what I'm saying? I'm still winning too, but look at me. You look good, man. I just told you earlier, man Y'all have to get my stuff to yell at me. That was real. Check it man. Hey man. Thank you so much. We love you Man, thank y'all love y'all too man. Thank you for coming on our show Man, keep doing what y'all doing man. Y'all doing some positive stuff. I see big names for y'all. I'm real spiritual Man, me too, man. I'm mad. Hey, man. Keep pushing Man, you know what I'm saying? I heard the man. Burry man, they put an existence over here Y'all gotta sit down, brother. Y'all gotta come over to Boss Talk 101 And um, I might be older than both of y'all too Big brother talking, man Check it man. Hey man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 when a boss is talk. You heard me on the real