 Quietest opening. I guess if I don't say something everybody has waiting for me to say some hi. Hi with life Hello, oh should I play a sting? I don't know. I'm a little worried on the on the live video if it gets us killed by the bot or not I just never know Do you have a radio Holland claims this music? Can you tell how long there? 75 degrees in Los Angeles mostly scunny skies. We're dipping down to 66 tonight Scott Johnson to Tom Merritt with you along the way this afternoon getting you through getting you home with the traffic report Coming up from 15 minutes from Roger Chang in the meantime. Let's get into the music here the Ramones man Schools out for summer Now you really that's really stuck with you probably that was probably really in uh Heavy influence, right? Like I mean 16 when I started doing oh, yeah stuff like that. Well, yeah, I just Absolutely That's why I could still quote Chaucer and Shakespeare that the stuff that I learned in high school I can't tell you what I had for breakfast yesterday. Well, I can because I have the same thing every day, but What do you eat every day? What's your what's your go-to lately? I have changed from yogurt to kefir But it is generally a muesli and kefir Uh with some blueberries and bananas That is some smarty That is some california bread Hi What did I have? Oh, I had eggs and toast I made eggs. I made eggs in a in a pyrex Got a container That's that's that's a real breakfast right there. That's a man. That sounds good. I'm coming to your house for breakfast from now I toasted it and added butter and ate it because I was hungry. Yeah I did uh Something similar except it wasn't eggs. It was toast and bacon. I skipped the eggs all together Yeah, I'm trying to avoid um the red meats Like I know I'll get enough of it in my in my in my diet So there's no need to go out of my way to add it. Yeah, I do the bacon on the weekend mostly I Just I would I would eat bacon every day for breakfast if someone made it for me. I just don't want to go to the trouble I couldn't I'm just making a lot. What are you at for breakfast Scott? I had uh, I had bacon and uh, and a half piece of toast wasn't even a full piece of toast Is that what do you have different things all the time? Is that oh, yeah, it depends I mean kim's always trying to get me to eat the stuff you're eating So I'll just start doing that But right now I'm kind of it's just easy Eileen has pretty much the same thing hers is yogurt not kefir and granola not muesli. She doesn't like to muesli It's a little bits and muesli that bugged me. I mean It's like eating dirt. Yeah, what do you eat? That twinks Wikipedia didn't work I sometimes will be bold and have a bowl of cereal where I mix in three cereals because I I'm running low on all of them and they don't want to bite you Is a mixture of roasted barley rye oat and pea flour I've never peed in flour Don't pee in the flour I used to get bob's red mill muesli fire dog, but I stopped buying and I started making my own muesli Because then I can vary up the the dried fruits in it. It's cheaper You can decide how much mues and how much What's the difference in that mueslicks? Is mueslicks just somebody's version of muesli? Mueslicks is a cereal based on muesli. Okay, although So what's the what's the laxative one? No, I'm not muslin x. Um, that's what a muesl Meta muesl. I also Every morning a little bit of muesl Uh, no, I was oh, I was not muesli. Oh, what was it? Oh, man, I totally spit. Oh, no what I do. I still have my magic bullet So I'll take whatever remaining frozen food I have in the freezer and I'll take the Head of kale that I buy once every two weeks and shove it in there and drink it All right, well Scott Johnson. Yeah, that's me. You are prepared Hmm. I don't care what Billy didn't says I don't care what he says either. He's never I I had the person who voices it might care very much Oh, we love Liam's great, but Illidan himself. I forget it. All right hiding Roger's hiding Roger partying stories loading Intro ready The daily tech news shows brought to you by listeners just like me and you not outside organizations to find out how you can contribute Visit daily tech news show dot com forward slash support This is the daily tech news for wednesday july 19th 2017. I'm top merit scott johnson along this afternoon getting you home On a wednesday afternoon everybody Actually, a lot of people listen to this in the morning so it doesn't work Yeah, you were uh earlier doing an incredible throwback to like some old school radio technique And I think it's gonna bleed through today's episode. It's gonna happen again. I can feel it It might we're gonna kick off 30 minutes of commercial free technology news Doesn't have the same ring does it no, but I love it because it's a it's a I think it's a thing that probably Benefited you like turns you into like a real capable radio dude And now you've got this refined thing that doesn't need that kind of right zoo tone anymore But you don't have a rock block of tech news though That's right. We're gonna spin the hits until the next eight hour commercial break everybody Let's start off with a few tech things you should know The us college board reports more than 29 700 female students took advanced placement tests in computer science in 2017 Up 135 percent from last year a new ap course designed to introduce principles of computer science was introduced And may have aided that jump college board also noted an increase of 170 percent among black and latino students in the us To 22,000. I think that's awesome. I I want to see I was telling you this morning on the morning show I want to see what this workforce is in five years I think that sounds super interesting and like a very diverse workforce in a place that Is going to make the tech sector a little more vibrant. I'm stoked about that Uh samsung launched its bixby voice assistant You know the one I hate and I would never say out loud But i'm going to do it for this show in the us for galaxy s8 users So if you're one of those users you've likely already got it if you desire to use it the second market To get bixby after south korea users can activate bixby by pressing its dedicated button and installing an update Press that button. We actually have somebody who tried this out already and emailed about it We'll talk about that a little later. I hear some other top stories apple wireless software engineering leader isabel gay may Will move to shanghai to take on a new role as vp a managing director of apple's greater china business She'll report to ceo tim cook and c o o jeff williams. She is a native of china She was born there and then went to college in canada and the us She's worked on key products like apple pay home kit carplay as well as some of the china focused ios features like qr Code support apple's china business. It has experienced five straight quarters of declining revenue and it is Still a potentially huge market for them. They have a lot of room to grow if they can figure it out Yeah, I think she sounds like a great a great pick She certainly has a bunch of experience in the apple stuff. That's what you want But you also probably aren't gonna be harmed by having somebody who understands the culture Understands the business culture and understands the way the laws and cultures work there in general You need more of that to break into china in ways that are more meaningful and certainly apple among others Are a company that want to do that more and better Nintendo released its switch app for android and ios. So this is ahead of the launch of splatoon 2 on friday We knew that this was probably going to happen But everybody kind of assumed that the app would come out day in day I think they're maybe doing some early load testing or you know just generally get it out there So it's one less thing to sort of worry about on the big launch Things will be nuts as it is But anyway, the app will allow features like voice chat and game invites This all starts with splatoon 2 and more games down the road There are some concerns that appears for example When you use the app and you want to use the voice functionality you have to have the app open and on The entire time that you're using it won't work in the background. Is that it? Yeah, and that's obnoxious. So they need to fix that. That's easily fixable. There are plenty of apps will work in the background I hear here's my guess on that one engineer says well, why would you need to do anything else on the phone? You're playing the game. Yeah, right? No that i'm and and sure, but i'm gonna say They didn't ask gamers how they use voice tech yep And they're their game they'll use the phone when it makes sense to use the phone But an on all the time thing is not what people are going to look for while they're playing the game They want to connect with their friends like they do already with discord or other services They want to start those voice channels and they want to turn it off and have it happen in the background If it's on a phone if it's on the console itself Like all this does in my opinion Is make it harder for Nintendo to explain themselves about having to have this separate app and not having this functionality through the console itself Well, and that's the thing, right? I mean think about it If you want to be able to hear your game sounds and talk on this app and hear people talk back You need a splitter because you got audio coming from two places now. You could use speakerphone. I suppose But that's not ideal. There's a lot of people who really want to hear really well have it in their headphones, right? there there is a Game headset built for this that you can get but not everybody wants to spend more money To buy another piece of equipment if they don't already have that And the other thing is well, if you're going to go to all that trouble anyway, why not just use skype Which can you work in the background? You know, yeah, I mean you discord right now I could use discord with 30 of my friends or discord. Yeah, absolutely Whatever and and not have to worry about this so it to me it just feels like they're not paying attention to what people already do in 100 cases on pc on other console platforms Like there's data out there that would help you know how to design this and I'm not sure they know what they're doing yet But that being said, I think the app has potential. I like their idea of Every game kind of gets its own part part of the app That's the plan anyway I think that's interesting It'll make more sense once more features besides the chat and more games show up there I'll grant you that. Yeah, and we can't judge it on this first week is no way. It's too early, but Yeah, just Sawyer She's she's got some opinions I I hope that Friday when that when the actual game comes out, which is now what two days away That they're ready enough though to handle the load that Splatoon 2 is expected to be a big hit and they need to be You know as ready as they can be Facebook's Campbell Brown told the digital publishing innovation summit Tuesday that facebook may begin testing a paywall for news stories as early as October Plan is still being developed but a source told tech crunch it would be along the lines of giving users 10 free articles a month Before requiring them to purchase a subscription or at least authenticate one they already had To be clear it would be a subscription with the publisher So if you want to read your 11th wall street journal article or your 11th new york times article For example, you would need to log in with your subscription for those publishers Facebook isn't selling these subscriptions In fact, facebook doesn't really want to do this from from what I can tell They're only doing it to keep the publishers happy. I know the exact comparison here and it's uh, it's what prime video is doing for amazon Started out as their content license content and prime subscription Soon it became a place to go get an add-on subscription to hbo and showtime and stars and everybody else And they've they've done this now For a while, but they nobody's ever accused amazon of being of you know, they're not telling you to be yeah, but the The analogy breaks down when you think about history We are historically accustomed to only getting to watch cable television that we pay for You pay for the amazon video Even if it's part of your prime subscription and then you're used to like oh, if and I want to watch stars I pay extra watch stars, right? We're not we're not accustomed to that with reading stories on the web reading stories on the web is free We're used to just going to a website and going free and anything outside of big mainstream organizations, uh, like technology news or or entertainment blogs Those are all free. So it's an entirely different expectation, especially in facebook where up until now Everything has been free. You never hit a paywall in facebook. So I'm not saying it won't work Wall Street Journal has made a very successful paywall if they if anybody can make it work in facebook. It's the wall street journal Uh, but it is definitely counterculture to what people are used to I wonder if it would drive though any new wall street journal subscriptions Which I would think would be the idea otherwise just send people off to the wall street journal like normal You know what I mean like if i'm on facebook and i'm presented with an article it says wall street journal requires a subscription I'm either I already already or either already have that or I already don't want that So right so i'm kind of with you on that point and and the analogy isn't really one to one and certainly But I think it's going to be there's going to be some brand confusion where people are going to think that this is facebook saying We're going to start charging for access to internet articles and that's bad They do not want that because there's there's been that that ridiculous rumor For decades now practically that facebook was going to start charging you next week, right? Like that's a meme on the internet And this is going to feed the fears of people who don't pay attention closely and think that that might be true On the other hand if you're a wall street journal subscriber and you pay for it This is nice because you you're saying you're you're going to see it as oh, wow This is more value from my subscription. I can now log in and still read these right here on facebook But most people aren't So so it's just going to be Of reason for them not to read that article If the if they hit the 10 limit, which is why they do 10 free Because you know that that keeps that limit from being hit hard and it only Hits the people who are reading a lot of your articles who might say, uh, well, you know what I read a lot of their stuff It's worth paying for you think it's worth do you think amazon or amazon keep saying amazon Do you think facebook's benefit here is that they're keeping people in the wall in other words For sure they don't want people to leave and go law wall street journal It'd be fine with people go into the wall street journal's website and log it in Then they get to capture that entire relationship Yeah, because it doesn't sound like they're actually a benefit monetarily other than they're going to keep eyeballs where they want them Yeah, uh, what's app users in china have reported an inability to use the messaging app without vpn for photos and videos Uh, simple text messages still seem to get through bloomberg reports. What's app is not responsible for the outage the thinking is that China and isps controlled or influenced by the state are doing that however Um, I just want to say real quick. I have I've got I'm in a I said this yesterday on as a guest on tnt I am I'm in a relationship with with what's app now I don't know when it happened or how it happened, but My international friends and some family members Have all kind of glommed on to it as the go-to For sort of cross-continental communication and I was scoffing at it originally didn't think it was going to be that Big a deal just yet another messaging app. I thought it would be cluttered. It wasn't I thought it'd be a pain. It's not Um, I wanted desktop they have it like all of that stuff is there and I really like it So I kind of feel bad that people in china can't use it the way they want to because I think it's a pretty tight app I know facebook owns it, but they haven't meddled with it in the way that they've meddled with like I don't know well message because facebook is not allowed in china But but apparently what's app kind of skated in under that because they they were operating before facebook bought them and My guess is with the the passing of the the recent dissident china is cracking down on the sharing of images and videos specifically about that person so That may be what's going on here and it may be temporary. It'll be interesting to see Yeah, but there's still ways around it like said vpn and things like that Although I guess use that stuff at your own risk cracking out on vpn too requiring The isp is not to pass along vpn traffic unless it's from an authorized corporate agency So I haven't looked this up, but I assume you can't even get like signal in china right because signals like Has to be the biggest no-no ever it's end-to-end encryption Least trackable I don't know that they could stop someone from using it through a vpn if they could get a vpn That's a that's a fair question though is like how how easy or hard is it to use signal in china? I mean you can use tor in china, but again, you have to you have to work around some some blocks to do it yep security software company avast has acquired Puriform That's a uk company and if you're like, I don't know that is maybe you do because they make c cleaner C cleaner is probably the most popular way to get temporary files cleaned up off your windows your mac your android system C cleaner has 130 million users been around forever We were talking about c cleaner on tech tv back in the day They are now part of avast which by the way just bought avg last year In fact now i'm thinking about it when I used to do top fives at c net a lot of times I'd do top five downloads and the top five downloads would be a vast avg and c cleaner So they're all all in one I don't remember what the other two might have been Puriform employees will join avast consumer business unit and c cleaner will continue as a standalone product Nice, I always wonder if those things are doing anything for me. I have a couple of them. I run them They're cool I feel like they're telling me that memories being freed up or Some dead disk space drive that wasn't being used or has old files that we can purge that they're being removed but I never really noticed any kind of like Huge boost so i'm not actually sure why this stuff is successful that it is I wonder if it just makes people feel better about other machines running and and that's enough Well at the very least it'll free up space If you've got a smaller hard drive you're getting towards your limit I've used c cleaner for exactly that that reason in the past And what's funny is avast and navi g also have competing software That does exactly this and it doesn't look like they're going to get rid of any of them They're just going to let all three continue for now. Wow. I wonder if they I mean, will they benefit each other? Will there be shared technology, you know Good question Share things until the three pieces of software start to mimic each other Or will it be like ways and google maps where they just sort of let them go their own way? We'll see. Oh, it's funny. You brought that up because maybe there's a transition there after this Yeah Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines.com It's a podcast. It's an amazon echo flash briefing and good news uk users Tinvec is on the case We got an answer out of amazon finally and I think we figured out how to get this thing in the uk amazon Echo store I was under the misimpression previously that Setting it for global distribution meant everybody could get it but apparently you have to resubmit it to each country store Anyway, long story short Hopefully coming to the uk amazon echoes soon and available on the anchor app at anchor dot fm and that Is our top stories Now you may wonder like tom tom tom. What about that google the big google news i'm seeing it everywhere Well, google has added its feed of personalized information cards to the home screen of its android And ios apps it was there for android users since december But it's even been tweaked a little for those users as well A lot of what used to be called google now is there. So you have cards But the cards that are about your appointments and stuff those are now in a separate tab The main tab is very news based. It gives feedback Or i'm sorry It gives you news that it thinks you're interested in based on what it knows about you So if you use search use calendar use gmail all that stuff You can adjust what is shown So you can tap on a card or visit the settings to unfollow a topic or a publisher Or you can even just say i'm not interested in this and it'll stop It'll stop doing it search results will include follow buttons when you're using these apps For some types of results not all results, but they showed stranger things with a follow button to say Hey, i like stranger things i did a search for it. I want that to show up in my feed And news results will offer alternative sources in fact checking from time to time as well So this is basically google now with news And google now updates move to the tab called updates And there's talk that this might actually end up on the google home page right now if you go to google.com You get the logo and the search box as you always have and you get a few stories along the bottom Those aren't necessarily customized the way these will be customized. This would be an entire feed Basically a news feed Yeah, they I mean, I don't want to go too far out on a limb here, but I think it's like Weirdly the yahooization of google and I brought that up this morning and you immediately made a really good point The blank google page Doesn't get used very much. I mean i'd not using it I use the search or the the actual address window to do most of my searches on a browser When it comes to mobile same thing I'm using the you know the search either in safari or chrome or wherever I'm at I'm just going straight in there. That's the standard now So how many people are actually ending up on this page that has the multicolored google name a single Uh space to put in your question or your search and a little microphone off to the right It doesn't I don't think people are going there anymore. It's like wasted real estate That's the that's the big gamble right google saying okay tom We're going to tell you it's 75 degrees in la we're going to give you the game of thrones news We know you like game of thrones Uh netflix releases the punisher teaser. Okay. I'm interested in that cardinals scores with the mats. Here's the standings Here's some washington post news euro gamer news quartz news. I mean twin peaks news It's not bad But am I going to open this thing up and go there on purpose even when it's on the web Am I going to go to the home page on purpose to look at this? That's what google's gambling on Is that i'll find this so useful? I want to check in with it everyone's normal well So let's go back to the original point if people aren't already going to google.com as their home page If they don't have that set in their browser as the default and I don't even think chrome comes that way I think chrome's default is just A version of that but with your most recent open pages below it I think that's how well i can tell you right now like do a tab. Yeah, so you've got a google search window And it looks like eight eight small versions of things i've been too recently So I have trending stories from pocket on mine. Oh, so well that's an extension So that's the other thing is maybe it gets weird and extensions change that and everything else And that's a whole another whole another bag of tricks for these guys But it it doesn't feel like it's going to drive more people to google.com the domain I already go to google news all the time. I'm already getting this from a thousand other sources I think if i'm an android user, I probably really appreciate this because this is a destination for where I am And if i'm using the the the app on ios, well, then you'll probably benefit here as well But I think on desktop I'm not going there every day even if I knew it was good and it was great I don't think I'd remember I just have too many other ways I get around now I go to google news for that Right and I know it's not customized for me, but I kind of don't want it to be Yeah And I think I think there's something to the fact that the people who like to use facebook for this or twitter Like it because they are Seeing other people tell them interesting things, right? I can either go to google news or tech meme Or or just my favorite news outlet, you know the wall street journal or weekly standard or something and get the news I want I use I'm when I say I I'm not talking about myself here people use facebook and twitter to say What what are other people interested in let me see what else is out there I get what google's doing and like you say this is very yahoo yahoo used to do exactly this It's possible that we don't want that that we don't want to customize election as and there are people in the chat room saying I use this every day So I'm not saying nobody wants it and definitely just now when I looked at mine. I'm like that's pretty useful actually It's got it's got the things I'm interested in but maybe not all the things I'm interested in to me It's like what I've done to netflix. I virtually ruined it And I know I can fix that with accounts and stuff, but I'm too lazy right now to do it But uh netflix has destroyed my queue It's just it's made it seem that all I want is clowns from outer space and terrible horror movies And that is in the case the things I watch for fun and they aren't part of that show or you need to set up a film Zach profile I totally do. Yeah, the problem is the damage is done. I needed to really set up a scott johnson profile Yeah, exactly. I need to call that one the film Zach file. Yeah I'll do the other one But like this news it's serving up to me today. I think it thinks I'm really interested in things like this one family tossed from jet blue flight after toddler kicks a seat Something about r kelly and a Madonna story I mean anybody listens to tms is nodding right now going. Yep. That sounds like that sounds like the right stuff So I know that I'm kind of special case in this scenario And I don't want that to color my opinion and it may well be doing that but uh It just seems like and I'm gonna mainly frankly talk about desktop if it's on my phone Sure It's a matter of just flipping around and cool whatever I see something I like and I go It's very casual very simple that desktop option though is going to take work and I just don't think I'm interested So what's funny is it's really no extra work on it's actually more work on mobile Because you have to find the app and launch it whereas you're probably already in the browser and you can just quick You know control t open tab and you're there but Yeah, uh, it's not something I'm going to remember to do like let me check my google feed I mean famous last words right and five years We may all be like talking about our google feeds every day and and what we saw on them But what I really miss or what I wish they would do google reader Was awesome for a reason and the reason it was awesome is I could go find my favorite reddit page I could then go find my favorite IGN articles or the RSS feed for my favorite tech blog or whatever and I could integrate this stuff all in a way I wanted to get And then they could still pepper that with well, here's what we think you want But also here's all the things you said that's what they're doing here They're saying here's what we think you want you can remove things But you can't and you can follow things sometimes by topic You can't add a particular publisher yet. That's not like it. Yeah, and that's frustrating So I don't know I think good luck to him It does feel like it's sort of anti the old simplicity of google a page with a search and a logo I always kind of like that admired that it's like we don't need all that extra stuff We have what you need here because you're going to search and find it This feels like that's not that anymore and that's okay. We've come we've come a long way since that was important So overall i'm fine with it, but I I just wonder how much use it's just going to get and yeah You don't even have to tell us that's the thing about google they've working on 4 000 things at a time iterate change tweak At the whim of whatever and it's because that's not their business model Their business model is made in other places so they can be experimental and in some ways I love that I'd love the apps that I use the most from google But they have got a lot of clutter in there man a lot of stuff No one's using any more apps that have been deprecated for years like That that's the only concern I have is that are they really committed to this and if they are What does that mean? Does it make them any money? Does it not do they care? Like there's always that hovering around google stuff like this. Yeah, whenever you're like Well, I'm going to make this my new thing Uh that that's in the back of your mind. I I think it's a great implementation I think it's better than google now, which was good I just I wonder I'm not saying it won't but I wonder if it will get pick up if people will use it So you're out there saying I already use it or I'm definitely using it then I'm wondering how many of you there are that's all there may be a lot. I don't know Hey, thanks everybody participates in our subreddit you can get over there and submit stories and vote on on the daily tech news Show dot reddit dot com you can also participate in our facebook page facebook.com slash daily tech news show or facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Get to some emails here someone who wished to remain anonymous not Ebenezer Scrooge Claimed they worked with glass In an enterprise setting and wrote in to say they think the wired article Oversold the new version of glass the person cites the following companies need to find a partner for software to make it usable in their setting And google gives it with an operating system, but not the software you need to make it work in your warehouse or factory or whatever Prison display size is still tiny and according to this person you need to refocus on it Which disconnects you from anyone you are interacting with Called battery power laughable in this email complained of normal wi-fi connectivity issues And said voice command reminded them of original seri in conclusion So it really all comes down to how much time effort and money a company is willing to spend on this and it must be an application That makes sense for the limiting factors i mentioned above I don't want people to think this new version is some grand turnkey redesign that organizations will be grabbing off the shelf And using right away. So this person does not like using glass in the workplace very much I'm curious if there's anybody else out there who's been using glass in enterprise I've been a big defender of the fact that hey glass didn't die It just found a home on the factory floor and this person's saying well It sort of did but I don't know how how useful it really is I uh Have only one question about it and I made an assumption that was probably an improper one I when I was reading about getting all this in my head yesterday I assume The glass 2.0 for lack of a better way of saying it Would address most of the what he's got on his list So for example, it doesn't really address the companies need to find a partner with software But one would assume things have gotten more robust. So, you know, perhaps it's easier to get there But the display size the disconnects the battery power stuff Wi-Fi connectivity and voice command My assumption is all that stuff needs to be and has to be better for them to do this initiative at all So if they're not doing that if it's just going to be straight up the old glass you were using And it's very prototypical $1,500 form Then yeah, I share his concerns, but is it wrong for me to assume google has addressed all those things because I don't see How they move forward if they don't Yeah, and that's why I'm curious. This is one person One person's opinion, and I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm not saying they're right I'm just curious if there's anybody else out there who has been using glass Victor also wrote in good to hear from victor said I don't know if this is dts worthy But last night I got an update to my samsung s8 with bixby I played around with it for about an hour updating apps Which is required for all apps that bixby can interact with training the voice recognition Which isn't bad overall and trying to get it to do things here are my first impressions and same goes as with the last email This is one person's impressions victor says the fact that I can only launch apps that it can interact with is annoying I don't use samsung's calendar email, etc. So I can't even open the calendar app I use for instance voice recognition isn't bad not on par with google or amazon voice services But acceptable they're trying to get people to use it by providing experience points towards levels And even samsung points which it seems can be converted to money or prizes And early access to new features like beta testing access. So that's good I suppose funny thing when I asked it to do one thing it responded with I couldn't understand that But it pronounced couldn't as couldn't tea Which made me a laugh made me laugh So it still has a little way to go There also doesn't seem to be a way to tell samsung about these issues so they could fix them if you care I will continue to write about my experiences. Well, thank you victor and Same with this if anybody else is using bixby and has had a different experience from victor Let us know as well feedback at daily tech news show com I agree by the way I think it's impossible to release a new voice assistant on the market without having all kinds of trouble for at least the first six months Yeah, my my opinion after experience with all these devices doing that They kind of suck at first and it's okay It's okay And then finally we'll have the full email from bruce in our show notes But bruce wrote in in response to the fireman talking about the knocks box Yesterday the knocks box being a box that has keys to your place and only firemen are supposed to be able to get the key Some years ago His office building was broken into and the thieves made off with all of the racked hardware in their server room Including their exchange server dev and qa resources and network storage The way they got in was breaking open the knocks box somehow They're not easy to break into but these guys figured it out He says I know other versions of the knocks box have compensating tech including alarms But our landlord hadn't kept up with the improvements much like happens and software Yeah, I don't trust those things physical box to get my keys in nope Well, thank you everybody for writing in and sharing your experiences with us It helps make the show better and as I always say we have the smartest Awesomest Audience in all of podcasting so it's great to hear from you and thank you scott johnson for joining us as always Thank you I would the nice thing about what you just said is that I often sometimes get to share some of those same people so I get the Backdraft effect of of your awesome listeners sometimes meander over to my weird mom and pop show and it's great So big thanks to all those who do that. I love that. We kind of have some shared space With our audiences and thanks for having me on if you guys want to find more of me all the time You can find me at on twitter at scott johnson some new projects coming up that will show up at frogpants.com as well So keep your eyes peeled Thanks everybody who supports this show. We are only supported by our listeners not by advertisers It's an ad it's a value for value model instead of us Hoping that you spend money with someone else who will keep most of the money and throw a few cents our way We just say hey, you spend less money We'll keep more of it and everybody wins So if that sounds good to you and you want to support the show There's some perks that go along with it too like early access to stuff or or special pre and post show things It's all at patreon.com Slash d t n s thank to nick dryfus ron yankowski matt shaney and everybody who supports us over there Our email address is feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. We're live monday through friday for 30 p.m. Eastern 2030 use tc at alphankeekradio.com and diamondclub.tv Or at facebook.com slash dailytechnewshow and our website is dailytechnewshow.com back tomorrow with mr. Justin robber young talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frogpants.com Club hopes you have enjoyed this bro Oh my gosh, you nailed The half hour mark. I know Right on the dot, dude It's the radio in him Yeah, you got me thinking all radio like earlier like oh the time's coming. I gotta hit the post That was a show 30 minutes 37 seconds total Sure, that's all right. You'd run a shorter ps a about the local puppy shelter. It'll be fine. Yeah That's funny that you know, I noticed that too Right on I mean as while you were reading that tail end I watched the clock turn over and I got all excited I never hit anything on time. So that was cool That's so funny All right, roger. What are you up titles? Fight the brand that feeds Feed me see more nintendo apostrophe o Google feeds us info nintendo switches update Tears oh tears for feeders Ha ha get it i er Yes Tears for fears. I like that. No Uh, what's what's up china question mark? A vast cleaner oh wait Oh, this one's good from dr. Deemer vast has a piriform victory. Yeah, I like that one Like pyrrhic Feed us google the yahoozation the yahoozation of google right I'm sure that slash is supposed to be in there on purpose. Yeah, I might be in the typo feed us go Oh, you said feed us google never mind Feed me I'll stop that right now Tears for fears feed me see i like tears for fears tears for fears is really good. That's pretty good I think that's a pretty funny ingenious one Ignis one it's an igneous. I used to think it igneous rock was an ingenious rock. Oh, yeah out shout Let all out These are the things We're gonna let it all out just unlike him and let go of what's his name. I'm gonna let him out. Yeah Because he doesn't do anything except what are the tears that we're referring to in this title though Yeah, what's with the facebook? Yeah, so I need to add that to the snot Are you gonna get the little mini snes when it comes out? Uh, yeah, probably if I get my hands on it. I think that thing looks great and I love the Well, but the thing I was most impressed with or one of the things that I'm impressed with at the NES one was the controllers are Exactly like the originals. I have an original and I put them next to each other and the way they feel push The release on the buttons all of it is like identical So I love snes controllers and I really want those controllers. That seems like a weird thing But I totally want them So, yeah, who my kid and I totally want Are you gonna Um, yeah, I mean well I know we can get the job But can he do the job? You know if I can get if someone has stock on the damn thing Somewhere somebody and then we got my NES with some fan got an extra one and gave it to me So I or sold it to me. So that was good So maybe that'll happen again. I don't know I got to play with the NES because my brother-in-law Went to all the trouble to buy one and then brought it to our house Great They came to all the work. Yeah So John Do it again went through all the trouble didn't you just order it online like everyone else? You didn't try did you? Yeah, you couldn't just order it. You had to work at it. Yeah, and I didn't know how to get it either I have to admit I was kind of wimpy about it I was kind of like well if I do I do if I don't I don't they'll probably make you forever and then that changed no Just wait give it a couple of months and then I'm sure the chinese factory that cranked them out We'll make them out again under a different name. Yeah I was about to disagree with you like no nintendo is not and then I'm like, oh under a different name. Yeah They call it the oes system Oriental entertainment system the oriental entertainment system They just have to change one letter. That's it terrible idea Uh No nintendo you've never seen the poly station. Oh no, I've seen that stuff the poly station. I was great It'll be the nintendo any ss Yeah Yeah But see okay, the whole point of buying this thing is not to play the games you can play the games in an emulator right now The point of it is to have the little miniature version of it and get the whole nostalgia burst So if you're getting one that says nintendo nests does that still have the same nostalgia punch I don't know like See this is the thing knockoffs used to be kind of sneered at as something you would get because you were too poor to get The actual thing but there is a market for those dark knockoffs. Believe it or not like oh, yeah Yeah, I think in the 70s and 60s that was the case roger, but yeah, I think in the past I wasn't around then tom so No, I mean, I think that's been true for a long time that people like knockoffs are funny. Let's get the knockoff Yeah, but I think um, yeah people collect them because because what it's interesting because it's sort of the cottage industry around the main product in the same way that You have so many Apple related products. You just have all these other products. I bought a knockoff tog watch in new york city once uh Because I just thought it was funny and it was like 15 dollars, right? It was called tap. It was You know, I think this one just didn't have the name on it It was all other ways identical, but it just they just didn't put a name on it if I remember right anyway I wore that thing for a year and a half for 15 bucks. It was a pretty decent one That's right. It's uh, yeah Took me forever to stop looking at my wrist when I stopped wearing watches I could be oh, I don't have a watch Now I just look at my phone You want to wear a watch scut? Uh, I do it's a well, it's a fit bit charge to Oh But it's basically a fit bit charge First thing it does when I lift it up to my face. It says 307 p.m. July 19th But it's got all the you know fit bitty crap going on I like it a lot though Although I hated its band the band that came with this thing sucked. So I went to Uh amazon or yeah amazon and found this 10 metal Magnetic clasp one stainless steel one for 10 bucks and it's awesome Fits perfectly locked right in no issues. I can get it wet It's great feed it after midnight Yeah, don't do that though because then becomes mug why or no mug why became a gremlin. That's how yeah No, the mug why no his name was gizmo But the creature is the mug why why? He was gizmo the mug why and if you got them wet They would be gremlins But you came with a free frogert or I might be confusing a simpsons episode with it No, because the frogert was also haunted Homer said that was bad, but it comes with your choice of free topping. That's good, but the toppings are also haunted Yeah, I think he said cursed the hot the toppings are cursed That's a classic So you know so many classic ones at the beginning And there's so many other ones that they kind of recycled throughout this the series I i'm waiting for the trend to come back of quoting the simpsons Like current episodes it because it seems to go in cycles It does I think they've been killing it lately I mean, I don't know how much of it was quotable but the writing I haven't seen any of the recent ones in the past two years They've been good And I but I haven't heard anybody talking about them No, I mean, I don't know It's such an anomaly the fact that it's even anything still Is so weird Been talking about this a lot lately. I wonder why The simpsons Yeah Because we all grew up with it and we all were alive and remember when it started But there's so many other things that fit that definition. Why why the symptoms Why the symptoms of talking about the simpsons because it's it's it's impacted. It's weird because it's an odd Yet It's an oddly comical yet. Also extremely relevant reflection of american family life I mean It was it was that was true of it a year ago and we weren't talking about it all the time You know what i'm saying? I'm like, why has it come up recently so much? I don't know Maybe we're coming back around like you said You know these things come in cycles and maybe we've always talked about it, but just never on the stream Hmm I think of all the I'm trying to think like do I talk about it outside and maybe I do I mean we use catchphrases, right? We say meh remember before lisa said meh When did people say like you go, huh? Right and then she had they added the m each And what's the other one that? David spade used in the award show. It's like yada yada yada or is it yada yada Was older than that Um, there are a few others. Oh, I'm so I am so smart smrt. I mean smart Good one. Uh, yeah And you know what it's such a rich vein of syndicated syndicatable material That anyone would pay for because it's a known quantity of people watching it Right. You can now I was thinking the other day. Why do we not have all 26 seasons or whatever it is now on some service? And I realized it's probably because you're talking about literally 26 seasons of 24 episode seasons Like they are they're all on fx. Are they on fx? Yeah But I wonder if anyone's done like the streaming encoding work that has to be done to get it ready for something like, you know Probably no, I mean you can go to the fx app if you subscribe to a service that lets you log in and watch all the subsets Oh Well, they should put it on hulu like they do Futurama. They just moved that way you don't have to pay for another service Yeah, and bob's burgers and stuff they put all that over there. Let's do it Bob's burgers, but yeah, but those are huh. Hmm. Yeah, burgers is a national treasure You're a national treasure Well get a room you too That is the least offensive, uh, uh, thing anyone's ever said to me. Your mom's a national treasure Doesn't have quite the same steam. I really don't it doesn't does it? That's not what she referred to me last night. Whoa Zing bam zing by the big All right, I love this check it out. I am uh, I am in my podcast app right now. Yeah, and Oh my gosh Daily tech news show is just downloaded This episode. Yep. Oh my gosh. That was quick Support How do you hear podcast this way? I can't fathom it. It's crazy to me Well, I don't know what you mean scott. I you know what I mean. I you know what I think it is. I think it's just I don't know how fast does that sped up like 30% two and a quarter? He's like He's like data looking at screens trying to get all the info about the crystalline entity before the card That's crazy it does cause issues sometimes when I hear you talking real life Well, I am I apologize for the how slow I am normally You know, you know who are really uh, I because I do this every week with you When I do Let's talk about star wars with garret after hearing him at two and a quarter speed on on angry chicken I'm just like Man, why is carrot talking so slow and then I have to remind myself. Oh, right. He he's talking at normal speed I think that's so funny. Yeah Uh, it gets me uh able to listen to a bunch more things. That's why I do it Yeah, I don't think you should go changing. You should do what works for you Don't go singing All right, folks. Well, thank you all for hanging out with us You are our bestest friends. Oh And we will always treasure you are you're the national treasures really, right? I'm all right, but uh, Nicholas cage told me once