 Okay, good morning everyone and welcome to BC 214, our course on developing the human spirit. Let's pray and get started. Could somebody please pray and we will start. Please. Amen. Alright, so last week we started talking about the interactions of the human spirit with the spiritual realm, the human spirit and its interactions with the spiritual realm. That is in lesson number five. So our focus is on the born again human spirit. That means for how our spirit that's been born again interacts with the spiritual birth. But please also keep in mind that even the unsaved, even the unbeliever, even their spirit can interact with the spiritual realm. Just that they're not saved. That means they're not interacting with God necessarily. Most of the time they're interacting with the powers of darkness. So it is not that the unbeliever doesn't have a spirit. The unbeliever has a spirit, human spirit, but it is away from the life of God. It is not connected to Jesus Christ. It's not connected to the life of God. But it can interact with the spiritual realm and things can happen. So that's why even these unbelievers, they'll be able to tell, fortune telling, witchcraft, they get those kinds of powers. But from the dark source, powers of darkness, they get those kinds of powers. So they're interacting with the spiritual realm. In the dark realm, we are focusing on how we interact with God. So, yes, question? Yes. You're speaking the mic so they can hear. God. God, God. Yes, the answer is yes. That means God can intervene. So God can give them dreams. God can give them vision, even for the unbeliever. I'm not saying that will never happen. There are many examples. Even the Bible, Cornelius. Yes, his name was Cornelius. Yeah, the Roman Sancturian. He was a devout man, but he was not a believer. He was a religious man. And God, the Lord speaks to him, sends an angel and he tells him, you sent for Peter, who is in Joppa, tell him to come. So even God speaks to the unbeliever. God can give them visions and so on. So they can have encounters with God. But many of them who are pursuing spiritual power would be pursuing it through the dark realm by doing all kinds of things. So what we said was that our human spirit is the place where, as God gives us knowledge and as God gives revelation, our human spirit is where we will know everything about ourselves because God is giving that knowledge in our spirit. So what is God's plan for my life? Most of the time, that understanding will come to you in your spirit. That means something inside you will say, this is what I should be doing in my life. Why? Because God is speaking to you there because the Holy Spirit is giving you revelation there in your spirit. So in your spirit, you're first going to understand God's plan and purpose for your life about making decisions, so many things. It comes first to your spirit. The spirit of man within him is what really knows the things of God and God gives it there. Then it comes to your understanding. You begin to understand, then you will process it, you will make plans, all that, that is fine. But it starts in the spirit. So we also said, the Holy Spirit bears witness with our spirit. Romans 8, we looked at that. And the Holy Spirit gives revelation to our human spirit. That means it is in our human spirit, where the Holy Spirit is going to give us revelation. Revelation means things that we did not know, which now we begin to understand. The spirit begins to understand. It's like the eyes being opened to see. The eyes of your spirit is open to see and you begin to understand in your spirit. So revelation comes to us in our spirit. The fruit of the spirit is also developed in our spirit. So in Galatians 5, we read about the fruit of the spirit. Love, joy, peace, kindness, meekness, gentleness, self-control, the fruit of the spirit. How does it happen? The Holy Spirit working upon our human spirit produces fruit there. He develops these traits or these characteristics or character in our spirit. That means your human spirit is able to love, be patient, be kind, be gentle, have faith, etc. in your human spirit with the help of the Holy Spirit. Then that has to come out in your life, through your soul and through your actions, through your words, that has to be expressed. But first it is the fruit of the spirit in our human spirit. Now it is interesting in the Greek, there is only one word for spirit, pneuma. Whether it is Holy Spirit, human spirit, evil spirit, only one word, pneuma. So in Galatians 5, it says, but the fruit of the pneuma is love, joy, peace, kindness, meekness. So some people will interpret as the fruit of the human spirit, which is not wrong. But how it is developed in the human spirit? It is by the help of the Holy Spirit. Let's understand. It is the Holy Spirit working on our spirit that these qualities are developed. We don't get it by our own strength. It's not like, oh, I will somehow get it. We are getting, we develop those qualities with the help of the Holy Spirit. So it's okay. Sometimes you might read some books or you might hear some people preach, oh, it is the fruit of your human spirit. That is true because there is only one Greek word, pneuma. But where does the human spirit get it from the Holy Spirit? So that's why in that same chapter in Galatians 5, Paul is saying, walk in the spirit. Live in the spirit. Be led by the spirit. In all these three cases, it's the same word pneuma. So you could interpret it as human spirit or Holy Spirit. It is okay. But understand that he's speaking to believers. So obviously their human spirit is in submission to the Holy Spirit. So that is what it means, led by the spirit, the human spirit subject to the Holy Spirit. Live in the spirit. Human spirit subject to the Holy Spirit. Walk in the spirit. Human spirit subject to the Holy Spirit. Then you have the fruit of the spirit, the human spirit subject to the Holy Spirit. So everything is coming from the Holy Spirit through the human spirit. That's how we have to live. And we also saw that God works through our spirit. So we saw in John 7, Jesus said, Out of your innermost being will flow reverse of living. What? Where? It's coming from your innermost being. That is your Holy Spirit, your spirit. The Holy Spirit is flowing out of your spirit. Right? So yes, the expression will take less through my soul and my body. That means I will be speaking words or I'll be doing some action. That is true. But where does it come from? Out of your innermost being. From your spirit, the Holy Spirit is going to flow. So Holy Spirit is not flowing just through my body or through my mind. So even though, remember, God said, I will pour out my spirit on all flesh. That doesn't mean just on the body. He said, I will pour out my spirit on every person. But how does the Holy Spirit flow out of your innermost being? Out of your spirit, the Holy Spirit is going to flow. So the gifts of the spirit also happen like that. It starts in the spirit, your human spirit. You receive a word, you receive an impression, or you receive a revelation, or you receive a vision, whatever. It's starting in your spirit. From there, you release. You understand, right? So for us as believers, keeping our human spirit in good condition is very important. Especially if you're going to ministry, keeping that is a good condition is important. So you can imagine like this, right? Suppose, even here in this building, I think there must be an overhead tank. Tank is, suppose tank is full, water is full. But if the tube, which is ring water, if it is dirty, or if it is clogged, or if it is broken, then there's nothing wrong with the water supply. But because the tube, which is, you can imagine, that's like our human spirit, the channel through which the Holy Spirit is being released, that is not clean, or something is blocking, then the Holy Spirit will not have freedom of expression through that person. Or sometimes the spirit may be very good, but sometimes our block may be in the soul, mind. Mind is always questioning why, why, how, when, where. Our own mind is questioning. So spirit is good, but mind is question. So then that may be a next block, right? So both our spirit and our soul has to be a good channel for the work of the Holy Spirit. Now, another aspect, another aspect is that there are many different kinds of spiritual experiences that we can have. Okay, spiritual experience. That means different kinds of experiences, which our spirit can have, but God gives that to us as He desires. So it's not like, you know, you and I, God today come to me like a cloud, tomorrow like a rain. It's not like you and I asking, you know, you can desire, but I want more of you. I want to feel your presence. I want to hear your voice that way we can desire. But we can't tell you dictate to God. Today I want to come to the Third Heaven. Tomorrow I want to appointment with Gabriel. And day after tomorrow I want appointment with Michael. We can't do those kinds of things, right? Those things, those spiritual experiences are God given. Like God will give us those different experience. From our side we can desire God more of Him, more of knowing Him, more closeness with Him. That is a good desire. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness. So you desire for God. Now, how He will respond to you will be different to you. To one person maybe He gives more revelation. To another person maybe He lets them encounter their presence in a certain way. To another person maybe, you know, some they have made dreams and visions. Another person maybe they may have encounters with angels or whatever. So different people have different things. How God responds to each one is different. But what we can all do is we can desire for God. We can desire for more of God. But what we're doing now is we're just going to mention some of the spiritual experience. Just for us to keep open. Francis has a question. Yes, yes, yes. Because you see even in the Psalms, right? You see David praying many times. He says, as the dear parents for the waterproof soul longs my soul after you or God or Psalm 63. He says, my soul longs for you. My soul thirsts for you. When can I come and appear before you? So even in the night I lift up my hands. I cry out to you. So in many Psalms, Psalm 119, many throw that Psalm. The Psalmist is crying out for God. I say, I'm waiting for you. Even the night times I'm waiting for you through your word. I'm seeking you. So the answer is yes. We can cry out for God, for more of God. God, I want more of you. And then God definitely will answer because the Bible says draw near to God and he will draw near to you. Definitely he will answer. Draw near to God. He will draw near to you. How he answers may be so different in different ways. Many different ways. He keeps, he'll respond in our own lives, right? So we're just going to make a list of spiritual experience just to keep our minds open. For example, in Moses, God said, I come to you in the thick flower. I come to you in the thick cloud. So God is giving a tangible expression. Thick cloud, you see. Can God do that today? Yes, he can. We will talk a little bit about why we don't see so much of this, but can God do it? He can. Moses saw a cloud. The glory of God came like a cloud in the midst of those people. There was also, yeah, so he's a many example, the pillar of cloud and the glory of God filled the tabernacle. For Isaiah, he had a vision. It was a very powerful experience and as he has six, he has a vision and he's seeing the throne room. He's seeing God, the throne room, the angelic beings worshipping God and he's seeing the glory of God just like a robe which is extending limitless, you know. And he's having that encounter and in that encounter with God, he's also seeing, he responds to God. He feels his own sinfulness and then an angel comes. He takes the call from the throne room of God and he touches his lips, you know. So that's not a physical experience, right? It's a spiritual experience. Spiritually, that is having that experience, that God is cleansing my lips, you know, through this way. That's a very powerful experience. So sometimes we could have those kinds of experiences. Ezekiel has so many different kinds of experiences. For example, he's having an experience where God is telling him, eat, eat a scroll. Now, obviously it's not natural. You can't imagine God saying, eat this. You can't bite the... You can't bite the... You know, it's not a natural, it's a spiritual experience. But it has meaning, right? God is saying, take my words, because you're going to go and prophesy. You're going to give my words to the people, right? So eat my words, receive my words. There are many times, many, many times that he's carried in the Spirit and the Holy Spirit is taking him and showing him other places or what other people are doing, spiritual experience, right? And he begins to say that. You know, like two Sundays ago, when I was preaching in central, that was the message on the power of the tongue, I think. And while I was preaching, I was just giving what... Okay, it was like I was giving an example. But in those words that I was saying, I was like almost saying the words that one of the people was sitting there, was saying. And the moment I said those words, she just broke down crying. You know, she was sitting there in the second row. She just broke down crying. Well, it's just crying the rest of the sermon. I was a little embarrassing because she and her friend were sitting right there on the second row listening to the message. But she was crying. And she was crying quite lovely. I could hear. But I didn't stop to, you know, ask what and all because other people also listening to the sermon, I can't stop it. But I knew that this was not planned. Like I didn't plan, okay, I'm going to give this as an example. I usually don't plan the examples. Very rarely I might think of an example ahead of time. But usually I don't. But at that moment, while I was preaching or sharing the word, those words that I said, I knew were exactly words that she was saying. So I just said it and she broke down. Then afterwards, you know, her friend brought her for prayer. And while I was talking to her again, I could sense, you know, this is her problem, one of the things. She's going through some, you know, a crisis, a difficult situation. So again, I said, you know, don't say these things about yourself. And I said, and she was like, those are the exact words I've been saying. So two times that Sunday morning, once when she was listening, and once she came when her friend brought her forward, she was still crying, her friend brought her forward. Those were the exact words. And I knew at that time that I was not speaking from my head. I was not saying this because, oh, let's be nice to this person. No, no. I was saying it because it's coming out of my spirit. And I knew that this is what she's been saying or speaking about herself in her life. And it really ministered to her, you know. So there are times that that you're just ministering out of your spirit and these things can happen. The Holy Spirit is giving you the words to speak, right? So in Ezekiel we see, the Spirit lifted him up and took him away. So that means Holy Spirit is taking him somewhere and he's feeling it. I went in bitterness in the heat of my spirit. So Holy Spirit is giving him an experience. He's showing him places and he's having that reaction. He can sense that the Holy Spirit is doing. Another place in Ezekiel 8, he says, the Holy Spirit, a hand, like a hand, put me by the hair and lifted me up. So literally like feeling, he's feeling. Somebody's catching his hair and lifting him up. Obviously it's not physical, right? It's not physically somebody's lifting him up. But spiritually he's feeling like that. As though somebody's holding him, taking him up. And in vision he's seeing what's happening in another place in Jerusalem. So these kind of experiences God can also give to us today, right? So and we can have those things through which the Holy Spirit is, actually it is a spiritual experience. That means this is an experience in his human spirit from the Holy Spirit. But he's using natural language, like somebody caught me by my hair and lifted me up, took me in the middle and showed me these things, right? He's using natural language, but actually it is a spiritual experience. In the spirit he's having this, right? Another many, as you can learn also, the Holy Spirit lifted me up, he brought me towards the gate and he showed me these five men, 25 men, he saw the people, he recognizes some of them. They are sitting there and they're having some discussion. In Ezekiel 43, the Holy Spirit is bringing him to inside the temple and he's showing him about the temple being filled with the glory of God. So these are spiritual experiences. We see this even with Daniel, right? Daniel had visions and dreams. He had angels come to him, right? What we see is in Daniel, Daniel 715, his spiritual experience was so powerful, it affected his soul and body. He says, the visions of my head troubled me and I was gripped in my spirit. Meaning I was so disturbed, he couldn't even go to work. I'm not saying don't go to work, but it affected him so much. Some of the visions, the spiritual experiences. And of course he also has angels come and talk to him. And Angel Gabriel comes and talks to Daniel, giving him a message and understanding of the dreams. And then when the angel touches Daniel, he receives strength to stand up. Sometimes he falls flat. Angels touches him, gets strength to stand up. So spiritual experience affecting the soul and the body. And we know of others in the New Testament, Paul the Apostle, he was caught up to the third heavens and he heard things about God. He says, I can't even come and share that with you. I can't express it to you, the things I heard and saw. Such worthy experiences. And of course John the beloved, we know he was caught up to heaven and God gave him the revelation of things to come. And he wrote the book of Revelation. So many different kinds of spiritual experiences. So we talked about the normal things which would be like being led by the Spirit, the fruit of the Spirit, the manifestations of the Spirit or the gifts of the Spirit. Those are common, all of us experience it. But then there are these unusual experiences which can happen and we should be sensitive, open to it. But there is this question, should we ask God for these experiences? Because sometimes you'll hear some people pray, ask God to take you to heaven. Ask God, do you want to go to the third heaven? Ask God to send his angels so you want to talk to the angels or those kinds of things. You'll hear some people preach those kinds of things. My thing is this, my opinion about it, my position about that is ask God for more of God. Ask God for more of him, not the spiritual experience. You say, God, you know, I'd like to have, it's okay. I like to have these. You can tell God you like to have it. But don't go after the experience, go after God. And how and what experience He gives you to leave that to the Lord. Because the danger in going after the experience is because even the devil can duplicate it. Okay, devil also can duplicate. And sometimes people are so interested in that experience. Then when they have the experience, you don't know whether it's really God or the devil giving them that experience. Some angel came and spoke to me. Okay. You have to test it. Right. And you have to make sure that whatever that angel told you is correct according to the word. Otherwise it could be some other angel. You know, so that's what I would always encourage us is, yes, pursue God and say, God, I'm open. I'd like to have, you know, I'd like to, you know, whatever you want to give me. You know, I'd like to hear from you. I'd like to know you. I'd like to receive revelation. I'd like to encounter your presence. I'd like to, I want more of you, you know, but then how that happens, you leave it to God and be open, be open, but leave it to God. And also everything has to be discerned. That's to be tested. You know, have a vision, have a dream. Test it. Is that from God? Is it not from God? So don't just accept every spiritual experience you have. You have to test everything and evaluate it. Okay. Go ahead. Have a question. Starting, say that again. So when you know for sure, so whatever we receive in the spirit, we have to test, but once you know that it is God, you go with it. You don't have to doubt it, right? Especially when you, I want to use the word become familiar or you are able to recognize how the Holy Spirit is speaking to you. Then it becomes easier. Yeah, that is the Holy Spirit. You recognize, you know, when the Holy Spirit is prompting you or giving you something, a word or revelation, then that itself is a test. Yeah, I know that's the spirit of God. I'll go with it. If you're not sure, then you test it. It's okay. Holy Spirit, is that you or is it my own soul or is it just some strange idea coming from somewhere? You test that. And also be, I think when the matter is very serious, very important or when the matter is affecting someone else, then we have to be more careful. And suppose I get an idea or something come in my spirit, you move to Delhi and start a church in Delhi. Now that is a serious matter. I can't simply go and because now I have to think about, okay, is this really from God? Then what will happen? Who is going to be responsible for everything happening here? I have to think of all those things, right? So then I have to really test that and really, you know, pray and make sure that is God. Otherwise, if I simply go, it will unnecessarily hurt whatever is happening here. But if it is God, then I have to obey God, right? So that is a serious matter and is affecting others also. So that one, if you really pray, you might, I will also discuss it with other pastors. I'll say you all pray. Let us get the mind of the Lord on this. Let us make sure we make the correct decision and then we make a decision. But if it is something simple like, you know, go and bless that person with some money, small things. Okay, you know, whether right or wrong, the person will be happy. Bless that person. So, you know, so depending on what that leading is, you have to be careful how you test it and so. Okay, last point here. We must also recognize that demonic powers can affect the human spirit. So this is not in the case of the believer. You're talking about the unbeliever. Just a little comment here. Like we said, some people can be under the influence of evil spirits. Some people can be possessed. Some people can be empowered. So for example, if somebody is causing trouble, he's coming against you, attacking you, persecuting you, they're saying all these things. Sometimes they can be doing out of jealousy or ignorance, but sometimes they can be under the influence of demonic powers. So why is that man attacking? Why is that man like, you know, that why are they saying all this? Why are they coming against us? It could be there is demonic influence making them do that. So then we are not fighting flesh and blood. We deal with the influence. So you say, in the name of Jesus, I take authority over every spirit that's influencing that person or that community people who are against a bind those works. Command them to leave. Because it is not just them as human beings attacking or persecuting or coming against the believer. There's influence. Demonic influence. So you did this. Sometimes it's demonic possession. Okay. That means, you know, that person is really taken over by even spirit of spirits and their manifesting. There's also demonic empowerment. That means the enemy is giving that person power to do things, supernatural things. So they may be able to manifest some power, but where it is coming from, from the demons, giving them power to do it. So that also at a dessert. So they can even tell fortune. They may even tell your past or tell your future. Some things. You were born this date. How do you know? From where? Deliverance, healing, all those things. But remember Bible calls it lying, science and wonders. Different. It's coming from a demon power and causing these kinds of things. So all these things are happening. We just have to recognize that. And sometimes for Samuel 28, they can impersonate, pretend to be somebody. Hello, I am Samuel, prophet Samuel. I've come to give you a prophecy. They can impersonate. So we have to be discerning. So, oh, prophet Samuel came and told me today. No, it's not prophet Samuel. So I'm spirit that impersonates. Sometimes they can even appear like Jesus, appear like Jesus. So you, if you're not discerning, you think Jesus came to me today and gave me these words. Be careful. Because they can come in any form. Like, you know, impersonate. So we have to be careful. The messengers of Satan appear like angels of light. They can come like any. They can impersonate anything. Pretend. And sometimes, you know, they affect the mind. They think, oh, I'm having a vision of some angel or Jesus or some prophet coming and talking to be careful. The real test is, if it is the Holy Spirit, your spirit will bear witness. That is the Holy Spirit. If it is not inside, you say, no. Something is wrong. You can discern. It's not right. Something is wrong. Okay. Let me pause here. Any questions? Let me see online students. Any questions from online class? Okay. Let me just introduce the next lesson and then we will pause. Oh, sorry. There's one more question here. I forgot. This God. Let me share this. Sorry. There's one more portion. We finished that today. So the question is, this is on page 20. Does God harden the human heart? So the argument is like this, you know, you think about some examples. Pharaoh, think about Jacob and Esau or Esau and Jacob. Think about, Judas is carried. So question is, did God make Judas go and betray Jesus? Because if Judas had not betrayed Jesus, Jesus would not have gone to them. And if Jesus didn't go to the cross, we would not be safe. So did God make Judas go and betray Jesus? And if God made Judas go and betray Jesus, then Judas can say, I did the greatest work. I cannot be called a sinner. I cannot be called a betrayer because I did the greatest work of only then, only because of me. Jesus was crucified. So did God harden Pharaoh's heart? Or what was that? Esau and Jacob. You know, even before they were born, God said, Jacob, I have loved. Esau, I have hated. So does that mean God already decided that he will hate Esau and he will choose Jacob? So these are questions that, and Paul addresses this in Romans. But let me just summarize that. So when the Bible says God hardened Pharaoh's heart, when we look at it carefully in the book of Exodus, and I've given the verses here, that we see that Pharaoh actually, he hardened his own heart. Initially, as Moses kept coming, Pharaoh hardened his own heart. That means he chose saying, no, I will not give into Moses. Who is he? Moses? God was working science in miracles. But even though the miracles were happening, Pharaoh was choosing to say, no, I will not accept this. So initially, Pharaoh was hardening his own heart. Then God gave him up. So, Pharaoh, you want to do that? Go. So in that sense, when the Bible later says, the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart, we must understand it in that sense. That means God gave him up, let him go. You want to go that way? Go. And that is consistent with the rest of scripture. So even in Romans chapter 1, three times, it says, God gave them up to their own ways. So it's not like God made them to go that way. He gave them up. And people chose to sin, and people chose to deny the truth and worship the creature instead of the Creator. And people chose to commit immorality. God gave them up. I was, okay, you are going? I'll let you. So in that sense, we must understand that God hardened Pharaoh's heart or he gave them up. He didn't make Pharaoh hard in his heart. What we see is Pharaoh starting hardening his heart in the beginning. That means refusing to accept that God was working. And so then God said, okay, you go that way. For Jacob and Esau, we'll understand that God was speaking ahead of time what he saw. Jacob and Esau do. So he was not determining their action. He was declaring their action, declaring what they will choose. He was declaring ahead of time that Esau would choose to gratify his natural desire instead of pursuing his spiritual birthright. So that's why he said, I love Jacob because he's pursuing the spiritual. I hate Esau because he's pursuing his own natural desire. So when God said ahead of time, Jacob, I have loved Esau, I have hated. He's not deciding the decision. He's declaring based on the decision they're going to make what he loves and what he dislikes. Same thing with Judas, right? God didn't make Judas go and deny Jesus. He knew ahead of time the choice Judas will make that he was willing to sell Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. But God would use that, the very act of Judas to then unfold the crucifixion and all that he planned. So it's not like God made Judas go and betrayed Jesus. God knew ahead of time what Judas was going to do. And he used that to see the crucifixion happen. So we must understand it correctly. And therefore we don't say, God is making me do wrong things. Or anybody do wrong things. So we will get into lesson number six next week. Any questions before we close? Go ahead. Will God choose someone? Will God choose someone? He will. Like if we see, for example, Judas, Jesus, and God knowing before there is also prophecy that he will betray Jesus. Will God choose someone? So the prophecy is God declaring ahead of time what is going to happen. Because he has already seen it, right? So he's declaring it ahead of time. So the question is, could Judas have been like John or Peter or any one of the other apostles who did not, I mean, who did not say John, he never denied Jesus. Could Judas have been like John? And the answer is yes. He could have been like John, a faithful, beloved disciple. He could have been. But Judas betrayed Jesus. Not because God made him do it. Not because God chose Judas and said, Judas, you can't be one of the twelve. I need somebody to betray Jesus. But he saw ahead of time that one of Jesus' twelve disciples would betray him. And so he foretold that. But on my own has lifted his heel up against me or, you know, I've been betrayed in the house of my friends. He foretold that. But it will be against free moral will to say that God chose Judas. And made him do this as though Judas had no choice to be like John, another beloved disciple. No, God knew ahead of time. He spoke ahead of time. He foretold it. But that is not in a sense of forcing Judas to do it. But it's in a sense of declaring that he will do this. But Judas, because otherwise what will happen is God will be working against free will, which is not right. He will not do that. So let's think of another scenario. If all of the twelve apostles of Jesus were faithful, nobody betrayed him. Could Jesus still have gone to the cross? Yeah, because somebody else would have come. Maybe the soldiers themselves would have come. Or a lot of people, the chief priests and all those other religious leaders were against Jesus. So somebody else would have taken him and put him on the cross. So the crucifixion would still have happened. So we cannot say that God made Judas do it. God foretold it because he saw it happening anytime. So we have to balance and respect free will and get the foreknowledge of God. And keep it together. Can Jesus also be the same with people nowadays? Even God knows that later they will be like, we see in the internet, people will be like, even if it happens, God will say, see who will leave him, he will still have it. Yeah, so the invitation is open to everyone. Whoever responds to the invitation becomes the chosen once. But if somebody decides to deny and walk away from the faith, that's entirely their choice. Did God know that it will happen? Yeah, of course, he knows everything. But did God make it happen? No, that was still their choice. Go ahead. Yeah, so they are praying to something or someone they may not know. Like Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 10, he says, don't you know that the sacrifices that the Gentiles offer, they're actually offering it to demons. They're offering it to the idol, but they're actually offering it to demons. 1 Corinthians 10, he says. So they don't know that. They may think I'm doing this to some idol or some temple. But behind that there is what we know is the demonic past. Okay, let's close. Somebody can pray and close and we'll dismiss. Amen. All right, have a good day. Thank you, bye.