 All right, so John before we or as we wrap up here What's on your shopping list from today? I'm not sure Anything is on my list. Okay. So the way you were talking about the cameras in the iPhone pro I thought maybe a 13 pro was was on your list. The thing is The 12 mini takes good enough pictures for my taste and I have a better point-and-shoot camera. So Ah There's not enough honestly Dave in the 13 to convince me to upgrade this phone I've skipped cycles as I think you have but they're again. There's not enough The mini is Interesting the iPad mini but and actually my parents have one and they they really like it my dad has It's like his primary thing But I have the air with touch ID generation I think Again, there's not enough I really don't use my iPad that often. So, you know, I gotta say there's a really nothing in the lineup that I personally would Would buy if they had introduced and the thing is now also so I have what will probably be my last Mac mini and I Oh, you're talking about the wrong shopping list. I'm not I'm gonna I'm gonna well No, that shopping list. I'm gonna say is not there because they didn't announce them. So yeah, that's Yes, that's next month shop. Yeah, but as far as my current I devices Yeah, I Nothing is on my shopping list So I and I'm just gonna ask because because there were some things that you said you were interested in so fitness Plus is not on your shopping list because that okay, even for the meditation stuff just checking correct and No, still no Apple watch for mr. John F. Braun, huh? Yeah, I'm still still analog dude. Well, I am both you can be both But maybe a no, I understand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I Mean, maybe I'll you know scan the refurb, you know store and I would go something of a prior generation I mean, I probably wouldn't get a gen zero if you couldn't even get those these no I I would go for at least a series five if you're going to If I want to get like GPS and stuff and I think five has GPS five was the yeah, exactly Yeah, yeah, yeah, so let's let's take a look at the refurb store and see what Seriously, you can go back to a series five on the refurb store and you can get them for 309 if you want to do that So yep, there you go. I and I again, I have the five It's worth looking at the difference between the five and the six to see if there's enough there to want to jump up On the six, but because you can get oh, I need to turn off series five. I see how this works So for another 60 bucks, you can go up to the six They've got a nice pink one there for you John with a gold case. So Maybe that's maybe that's your thing. So for me the Shopping list almost certainly includes an iPad mini that I think that's that's you know I have not bought an iPad in a very very long time And I've I've always been a fan of the mini right now I have a 10-inch iPad Pro kind of the old in OG 10 inch if you will and so it's it's I mean it's time for that one to go for sure and To bounce up to the iPad mini For me, I think it's a pretty much a no-brainer. So I should have ordered that before we did this But you know, I wanted to get here and do the show. So I'm gonna go order one of those and then I think well I as a as a if I were treating myself solely as a user of devices I think I'd be in the same boat like I don't the differences between the 12 and the 13 For the iPhone aren't really enough to convince me that I need to go for a new one, but I'm not just a user I also am the co-host of Mackie cab and we Absolutely need to be able to answer your questions about these things So I am absolutely going to get up on Friday or stay up Whatever the timing works out to be and order an iPhone 13 mini most likely the mini I've really appreciated this size of the phone and I don't think I want to change so so You know plus I there are the rumors that say that this is the last year of the mini sizes So maybe I don't upgrade next year if they don't do a mini size because I really really like this And so I I trade up and and do that and I may actually wind up trading up our household you know our History has been that we we sort of my devices sort of fall through into the the system of the household I don't think there's anybody else in the house that wants the mini size phone. So So I may be trading my mini in for a new mini. So there you go