 Don't boss talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Here we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. We be on fire, we be live lit. Check, check, check at this unique house, this is your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Ms. Jamaica, what's up? None, none, my day, well, go on. I want you all to stop what you're doing right now. Go like, subscribe, follow us on all social media platforms, I mean our Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, you name it, we're on it. Definitely check out our Patreon channel too. What channel too? We on everything, even threads. We on threads too. I ain't wanting to build it, you on threads? Nah, I ain't know everything. It's on there, it's on your thing. You know, Mark Zuckerberg just stuck that one in there. I can't believe it. It's on your Instagram, you just hit it, you ain't, you done seen that thing. I thought you in a mix of everything, I thought you know everything that's going on. I come in late. But you can't do that, YouTube is, you on it, you're supposed to have your guys on doing fake pages and everything to make sure it's legit for you to go on it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ought to check that out, but it's tied to your Instagram so you gotta be careful because you can lose your IG and your three at the same day. Yeah, that's what I'm saying for the day. But he don't be doing nothing on his IG, his IG be, nah, he don't hardly post. The only thing he do is meddling all the folks on live. Man, so man, what's been up, man? I know your name came up on here a lot of times, man, but we don't get into where you've been, what you been doing with this music. Yeah, yeah, nah, we go to cause everything. I done came at one P.L. So what, all right, so when you think about just some of the music going on, I mean, you know, I seen, hey listen, the fight came on, I seen Big X, the plug come out. Man. But it was, the music was a little bit off, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, why the heck did that music, that, you know, the sound, Nah, listen, I like Big X, you know, I appreciate X, you know, EJ, you know, he went to 635 to get somebody to walk him out, you know what I'm saying, everywhere else. That's hard. Yeah, that's all, and I fuck with Big X, but they should have rehearsed that shit. You, can they rehearse it though? You don't know if they can rehearse it. I mean, everything can be rehearsed. Eminem just showing up. Nah, nah, he was smart. I like it. See, the thing is, and you gotta understand Dallas, you know what I'm saying? Sometime Dallas be thinking so, he, they be like, Dallas don't overthink for the world, they just think it's locally Dallas. Eminem was smart. I like how Crawford, Crawford intro was perfect. And he came out with the net on, he came out and just stood there. I ain't never seen no boxes stood, he stood there, he stood at the entrance like a rapper. I mean like a wrestler. You ever seen WWF when they just stand right there and look around, he stood there, Eminem stood there, Eminem said word, he announced them, made his present film and said word on the microphone because he knew the delay. He did, that's what I thought. Yeah, you said he was a vet, he said he's been doing this a long time ago, so he heard it. Yeah, he heard it. But, but that is his advantage because he came after him. If he came first, he probably would have done the same thing Big S did. Yeah, but some time. Nah, but most rappers, most rappers, most rappers that walk people out maybe be a delay. Really? Yeah. I be hearing it cause I'm a music head, but that was a huge, huge delay. It was. Huge delay. But it, like I say, when I, everybody was excited for this fight. Yeah, yeah, nah. This fight was supposed to be one of the most spectacular fights that we ever seen in my life. I feel like I was, when they were, when they were finna, when they were finna come at it, I feel like I was fighting. Me too. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie, I was all the way into it, bro. And I was sitting there on the little old chair watching cause I know you was there, I'm sitting at my partner's place over there and I'm watching on the big old, tell, what is that we had the pro, the big old, the big thing that looked like a movie. Yeah, it's a big old, big thing. I'm looking at it and them niggas big on there when they come out. Big ex was big on there. Yo nigga. Man, and then I say, man, I tripped cause early like some, like he wasn't all the way there. Like it, like his face was redder than me ever. Like, what's going on with this? Yo, he was a big fight. So you think it was nerves? Yeah, nah, I just, I think it was a big fight. Yeah. Shit, the first round, he was him. Yeah? No. You shit, you gon' look at the, I don't look at that fight five times now. He was, the first round, he was charging. The second round, he was still doing his thing. But go back and look at that second round and he said, I'm tired. He said that the second round, damn, I'm tired. After the second round? After the second round. After he got knocked out? No, no, no, it was before we got knocked out. No, then that's the first round. The first round. So go back and look at the end when you're walking to the thing, he said, I'm tired. You gotta understand, you come from Texas Heat and you come from losing, damn, their 30, 40 pounds. That's what I'm saying. How quickly did he lose that? Huh? How quickly did he lose that weight? I'm not sure. I don't, I think they got, they were trying to keep, probably did like three or four months. They, you know, they, they pros. You know, I need to find out what he's doing too, to lose that damn weight. Because that's what he was losing weight. You want to lose weight? Everybody listen. I need to lose it too. Yeah, so, at the end of the day, you lose out of that weight. Yeah, you lose out of that weight, you been running, then you go to Vegas Heat. Shit. And while you were tired, I'm gonna tell you, go back to the first of that, I think it's the first round now that you said he got knocked down. He hadn't got knocked down yet. Yeah. It was that, well, didn't I see it? I said it during the fight. It was the end of the first round when he was walking back to the thing. He said I'm tired. No, not right now. We can't be tired. Yeah. It's too early. But even for me, when he first walked out, he just didn't look like himself to me. He looked like something was wrong. It's a big fight. It's a big fight. And I'm gonna be real, it was a lot of money on the line. Yeah. A lot of people bet, you know what I mean? A lot of money on the line. Some niggas was broke after that. There was a bunch. But when I lose, he still get paid? Yeah, yeah, he got that paid. He about 30 million in. He about 30 million in. Yeah, so when I lose, he still get it. Oh, he good. And I think he gonna fight again too. It's coming. He's gonna fight the same person. In December. Nah, look, let me tell you this. In December. You know, I fuck with him. You know, growing up, you know. Y'all used to be like buddies or something, were you? Look, I ain't never seen nobody. That was the first time ever getting beat up. You never seen nobody beat him? Hell no. Hell no, since he was a kid. Nah, hell nah. And at the end of the day, at the end of the day, you know, I want him to realize how to see that Dallas will do you. See, everybody will ride with him. See, everybody will always ride with somebody and one thing's negative happening, they turn on him. I turn on Facebook, everybody laughing at him. So I want him to understand what the city of Dallas will do to you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. People ain't loyal. People ain't your partner. Some people will turn on you quick. I've seen them. A lot of them. Yeah, and at the end of the day, let me tell you at the end of the day, that's one solid nigga that I've seen when they come down to fight and he ain't lost one fight. I ain't never seen a run from a fight. None of that. You know what I'm saying? Because he was around me. He's the whole, since we were kids, you know what I'm saying? So I know he about. How long was y'all? How old was he in the first minute? Oh, he was in second grade, third grade. I was in second and third grade again. How old was he? I'm like, I had to be like fourth. He was second. Okay. And y'all always, you always seen him? Y'all always talk? Nah, yeah. He played him all the time. For about ten. Yeah. And you know, down there where we from, everybody had games at the same place on Saturday, you know, the whole community there. Wow. But you said Dallas turned on him though, but just like how you see the negative, you see a lot of love still. People, I've seen people say, don't worry about it. You gonna get him next time. Those are people that really, those people really care about it. Right, but you talking about, you know how, okay, you know how you can have this much positive and you have this much negative and you see it. I watched Powell Prince go on there and say this boy, the truth. And nobody from Dallas went over there and questioned me. The fuck? How you gonna say this boy, the truth is that he don't went through 28 fights flawless. And they just turned it back on him. They just turned it back on him. Dallas didn't take a form. Dallas don't say nothing. Man, if I said so at the end of the day, I wanted him to see that, you know what I'm saying? You know, he's surrounded by people with this, you know, just, except for his family, but the people that just wanna be in the line like. You think he has a lot of fake friends around him. Man, if he was the people that started off with him at them fights, man, they would've seen him lose you. They'd be on a crying fight, ready to fight too. It was some people he had with him that he let go. Yeah, I don't know about them. I'm just saying the people that started from the first fight, yeah, they'll be ready to tear that bitch up. Cause they don't see it. This never come from nothing like a 360 turnaround. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, you know, you get away from the people, the line like people and everything, you know, but you know, it was sad to have the industry did him doing them and nobody from Dallas taken up from him. That's how Dallas is though. December, December come. If December come. Do you think he gonna be ready in December though? I think it's too close. I think he should wait to buy February. I think he's in the contract already. I think they gonna fight in December. Yeah, they had to, but uh. But it up to his way. You already agreed from rumors, Terrence Crawford, I would agree to 154. 154, right. But is that gonna make a difference in such a short time? Listen, I think over there working that right now. He upset. He got supposed to fry. I think it working that right now. That shit hurt. Nah, we come from around the same place. Yeah. A defeat, a L, it's a good thing for certain people. It drives. But it's a bad thing for people that's going against it. Yeah. So how you think it affected him? He working that right now. I guarantee it. I ain't talk to him, but I know him. I know him. That's somebody who ain't never got beat up ever in life. Yeah, he probably working that right now. Life for real. And you know what I always put, I always put God in everything because I feel like we all have to go through something for a reason to open our eyes to certain things. Just like how you talking about maybe people around him. Maybe the love, maybe just anything. We don't know what it is, but I pray that he get whatever it is that he needs to get. The message that he need to get. Right. You know, that ain't no love stuff that's staying bigger. Yeah. Nah, nah, nah, nah. But you at the end of the day, and then Crawford. I like Crawford. Listen, Crawford had nothing to lose. You see Crawford baby mama? Yes, he was dancing. Big ol' fat, big ol' fat girl, about five or six kids. He ain't even worried about that. He ain't worried about that. I knew you were like that boy. Yeah, I like that. I like that. I seen his baby mama, he can give any woman in the world he want. But he's content. He's solid. That's content with? He's solid. You see that, see his teeth? Yep, he dancing around, he dancing around with him. He gap. He can go get the nearest he want to. He don't care. Solid. That nigga real. I knew it was real when they went to the face off. And he had them big ass pants on his ass. That country nigga don't give a damn. He don't care about nothing else. That country nigga don't give a damn. That's it. But that was entertaining for the world, man. Look, you know, I salute both of them. They both meet over 20 million plus. 30 million a piece, easy. And it's going to keep going up because they pay review. But when you win, you get paid more, don't you? No, it's not. I said it's not. It's not. It's same amount? Yeah. What about the country? Crawford still get less. Really? Although he won. Yeah, because the other guy's going to get all type endorsements, all kinds of stuff. I think he was like a 60, 40 split. Yeah. That's because he was a bigger because. Yeah, he was bigger. But at the end of the day, the lesson learned from that situation is stay humble. Stay humble. Because EJ was talking cash, yeah. Yeah, like you're going to break it. But Crawford wasn't talking back? He don't even know how to talk shit. Not like EJ. I told you that earlier. He told me he was talking. He said certain things. Like he was arguing with some of Earl's camp earlier. No, no, no, no. This is what he said. Hey, y'all chill. We got to conduct ourselves so like black people sitting here acting like this and acting like that. And they were still yelling. Come on, man. Y'all come on. We got to conduct ourselves in the right way. He represent me. I like that nigga. What about the old boy that got slapped, that Charlo boy, he don't even box right now, but he ain't got slapped up there. Yeah, I seen it. So you tapped his dogs? Do you think Texas took an L? The whole thing was bad. But Texas, you laughing, but it wasn't a good look. We're some proud people. We don't play like that, bro. The only person who won at this situation in the state of Texas, Big X. Because he got to hit that national state. Yeah, Big X. Big X got to hit the national state. It's a blessing because at the end of the day, Big X ain't got one plaque. No. But that's a blessing, though. And that nigga blessed, bro. I can't lie to you about the nigga, bro. That nigga blessed for them. I'll just be real. You meet that nigga, he humble. Yeah. Yeah. He silent and he told me, he told me I just don't matter one time I ran. I do this to take care of my kids. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. For a person to do what they do, to take the risks they take for their kids, not their personal risk, their personal situation. Man, it's a blessing. Man, I fuck with the nigga. I fuck with the nigga a lot. I ain't got nothing bad to say about that nigga. Do you think that Rick had an effect on Earl just going back to him for a second? Nah, he had none. So you don't think, you know. He fought after that twice. Yeah, but they wasn't hitting him, though. They couldn't hit him like that. Yeah, but shit. He running in the straight shot. But he didn't fight. I mean, he didn't, they didn't sleep him. If he was got knocked unconscious, yeah. Could I say something happened to his brain with the Rick? He didn't, he just met a, he met a nigga that was hitting him with counter punches. I mean, he was getting hit with counter punches. Like, I don't agree with you on that first round, though, because you look. Don't look at it. He won't. Now I'm talking about far as Earl the way. He won the impact of his licks. No, no, no, no, no, no. His licks used to be harder than an effective, bro. But he won the first round. You gotta understand, he. I know he won it, but. Listen, listen, he was boxing the nigga with South Powell. They kept switching their stance. Yeah, go for them. You can switch it. Let's go back, go back to the interview when they were sitting there with that white man. Crawford kept telling him. Uh, come try me with all them body shots. They body shit. Come try me with the body shit. I'm going to make you do this. Thank you, man. Crawford studied him. Yeah, I agree with that. It ain't shit to do in Omaha. Nothing. You, you, you stuck with the girl you was with. You dissing that you in the house with your kids. All you got to do is sit there and lock in and concentrate. Country boy. Yeah, then you fight the nigga with six kids. I'm frustrated. I don't, I understand now. Because you got all them kids. God, me. One night with them triplets. Oh my God. You, everybody's going to be ready to fight. At 154 December, what happens? Uh, it's going to be closer. So you think you're going to go to distance this time? He's going to lose. The next fight? He's going to lose again. But it's going to be close though. He's going to come out. I'm going to get it twisted. He's going to come out. Why do you feel he's going to lose again? Because this is a weight that Crawford has never been to. Yes, yeah. I mean, at 154? Yeah, you're right, but at the end of the day, I don't think six pounds make a difference. I mean, I don't think seven pounds make a difference. But you saying it did for EJ when he lost all that weight? Yeah, he had to lose, yeah. But him gaining the weight, just like you gain weight and trying to go out of here, it's going to make you sluggish. EJ was not, he was to get hit with counter punches. You know what I'm saying? Y'all remember Tyson fall out of the Holyfield? Yeah. The first time, not Tyson had a set, right? The second time, he was kind of close to late on in the round. And Tyson realized I can't do shit and Tyson bit his ass twice. He was hit, but in Tyson. Man, he was, there you go, Tyson, there you go. I can't use, die hard too, but I can tighten the chain. Here we go, that shit. He was headbutting. That's why he bit him. Yeah, he got frustrated off them headbutts, man. And I know, you know, Holyfield got the big head. Big old, he boom, he hit that n***a hard. He couldn't do nothing with him. He couldn't down it. And he frustrated, because he don't like to go past the first, second round anyway. Mike Tyson, after he pissed off, he can't even do nothing. Because he don't like fighting long fights. Okay, when you, when you, you went up to the fight, how was the, how was the, the energy and the people and everything that going on up there that, you know? Yeah, it was, after the fight, like they were disappointed, everybody disappointed. It was quiet. I know you could handle it. Because that, because that, man, it's like, here's, it's like, it's like, I ain't gonna lie to you. It was quiet. I kept thinking the whole time that, I kept thinking the whole time that, EJ gonna come and get, come and get a lucky punch and just drop him. I did, I kept saying, damn, I was nervous. Like, it ain't over, y'all. I know him, it ain't over, but y'all understand every time he, which, which, which was, which was worse? Let me ask y'all a question. Ryan Garcia or Earl Spence? Cause y'all keep talking about EJ, how he just got this and that, but who got done worse this, this summer? Ryan Garcia or Earl Spence? I see Earl, man. That was bad. How? Ryan Garcia took a knee. I know, but. He quit. Yeah, but Earl got knocked down about three times. But Ryan Garcia got knocked down, then came back and took a knee the second time. He ain't won no more. Yeah. You're right. So you, so, so a person that keep on getting up and trying to get back into a person that took a knee and said, I quit. He took a knee and then not get back up. And, and, and, and so what was worse? I don't think, I really don't think, I just don't think Earl was, I don't think he prepared himself. Nah, you gotta understand, man. You got, you fighting a beast. You gotta understand. Listen, but let me, let me, let me. No, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna, and I'm not a, I'm a fan of both, but at the same time, I just feel like Earl Spence, something was wrong. He was not on his 100% game. For some reason, some part. That's what I feel. I blame it on that. Whatever he was going through, whatever was happening. Nah, he would have said it. You think he would have told it? Nah, I don't think he would have said it. I don't think he would have said it. Because I know that he could do better than that. Nah, listen, listen, let me tell you. It's like this, though, when I managed one rapper, it was easy for me. Since Motu three died, you know, I had multiple rappers. So I got to be, I got to split up my time. You know what I'm saying? If you, if you a single father and you have other kids, you not the 100% of the best dad that you used to be because you got a 70% of your time. His manager for the last six years was just him and EJ. Now he got five different boxes. So I believe that his trainer and his manager they prepared for it because he got other obligations right now that's surrounded by him. You know what I'm saying? You got the Chalo twins, you got Ryan Garcia, and you got the big, the big heavyweight fighter. They got to fight in two weeks. So now you got to fly out there and get ready for his trying to come. Then you got to come back and then you're one of the twins fighting Conelo. Then you got Ryan Garcia in October. Then you got him in December. Then you got him in December. You still don't get the perfect training that you need in the, in the, in the camps that you need because you got one man that got a jug of between five niggas. I get it. But let me ask you a question. Okay, being an athlete, you know, when you training and he's been doing this for a long time, there's not a lot of new stuff that you're learning except from, except from your studying your opponents moves on a daily basis trying to figure out how to counter react to that. Yeah, but you need a watch collar. You need a nigga that you comfortable with. It's, it's a, it's a thing. He know what he's supposed to do. He go in the gym with a spine partner and it's. It's some rappers right now that have been rapping for years, then in the manager, in a label. They hear you need a label for in a manager and you, you, you don't make. He been doing this long enough. He's supposed to know exactly what you need to do. You know the same clubs you don't need to, you don't know, you know, executive, you know what I'm saying? How to, how to do this, how to do that. But in that case, you're not self-motivated. But then when you, everybody looking, Errol, you think that he's the type of person that is a go-getter that is self-motivated that will, you know what I mean? That's what I've always heard. Everybody need teaching. He said it. He said, I was thinking that it's gonna, it's gonna do like every other fight. Come, come, come, come to me. I'm gonna tell you something, I, you posted mode three laughing. Then I'll do him. What was it about? But it made it look like it though. Cause it's right at the same time that it happened. I wasn't supposed to post the cover. I posted that cover and they told me that that ain't the cover we're using. And so when I posted that cover, my phone blew up. And then I posted him laughing so he coming. Okay. It had nothing to do with it. It just coincidental. It's just coincidental. Not because I had posted a sample of the song. You know what I'm saying? Nobody related it to that at all. Everybody's talking about it. Everybody think you talking about her when you posted it. The real fans don't need to come in and say, but when the album coming out, they talking about the album. Yeah, a lot of people, but anything you post, you could post your kids. They gonna say, when the album coming out. But you go over it. Look at the real comments. The real comments when the album coming out. It's just some goofy dudes that could go in there talking about, he talking about this. He talking about that. I don't, it's like to me, I just don't like the decisions that he made. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I wanted him to lose. I wanted to feel disappointed like I feel disappointed. You wanted Earl Spencer? I was a crowd. No, I was rude for Crawford. I was rude for Crawford for the last four years. I seen Carl. Did you back? It's Carl Kenton, he took pictures with him after the fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't know. I'm sorry. You said it both had the last name. That's what I was saying. I wanted Crawford. I wanted Crawford. Did you back? Yeah. So you won? I said I'm saying. You bet against? Yeah. I'm gonna do it again, dude. Bet against Dallas? Yeah, fuck him. Dallas doesn't loyal to nobody. Dallas is not loyal to nobody. So you didn't bet with Spence? No, I know boxing. So all the other fights, yeah. But not this one. This man, y'all don't understand how this man is. This man 39 and 0. When you betting, it ain't personal. Yeah, yeah. He 39 and 0 and he can go from Southpaw to regular at any time. So you was happy when you won your money? Yeah, his leading hand, the little jab. You know, you throw a jab with your off hand. His leading hand is his most powerful hand. That's why he get caught with them hooks. He switched his jabs to hooks because that's his most powerful hand. That's what I had everybody say. He ain't never seen, he ain't never seen nothing like it. Wow. I wanna ask you about something. I'm gonna jump subjects on you. I had Vega on here, smooth Vega. Smooth Vega said, you know, it came up about Bumpy Johnson about you, basically, he ghost managed for you. And he said, he basically- He said, you don't even know about it. That's what he said. You don't even know what he was doing. I understand, listen, listen. He helped you with Bumpy Johnson. How, and he said he was, I had checked him about the fact of saying he was the best manager. Yeah. And I threw you in there. You know, I told you, low D's in there. I told the ones I think about. And what he said? He said he wanted to challenge you. He said he was gonna bring you on a show. But you try to charge him. And he was gonna challenge you. Well, who have you managed? He got some Hispanic. How many flesh they got? He just got a deal the other day. They just did a deal with some company in Tennessee. I don't know what he said. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know about that. We don't even know what kind of company that is. Listen, listen, listen. Why does he feel like, why does he have a little animosity towards you? It's D of W. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Once you're on top, it's a roar to everybody. Try to turn you down. But are you on top right now? Yeah. Hell yeah. What makes you on top right now? Hell yeah. I just made a rapper. Let me tell you this. Fred O'Bain jumped on Mo3 out for free. I saw that. I seen that. I saw that. Fred O'Bain jumped on Mo3 out for free. I gotta pay $650,000 on a tour. I'm taking some of my young people to the tour with me. I just got Baby C's $750,000 to create. There are no album ever done. Ain't nobody ever did that for one. Everybody ever did it around here. You know, at the end of the day. Tell me about the deal. I see when you, when you, what was that about? What? The deal that you got with Baby C. Yeah, you got a good album deal coming out. You got a one album deal coming out. So bumping, bumping number two in Dallas. I mean right now. So you know, at the end of the day, you know, people would be thinking just, I could just make superstores like that. That'd take time. It do take time. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, but at the end of the day, nobody can, okay, I'm making niggas chicks. I'm changing niggas lives. A.L. Key, A.L. Key and Black, the little light skinned and dark niggas dancing and niggas in North Dallas I got. They going off my word that Key is the next one to blow. They can't even tell me what song he got. But they just go off. They got my word. That's all. So right now, I like to see that Dallas because right now it's easy. You know what I'm saying? But you know, at the end of the day, I'm not, let me tell you like this. At the age I'm in right now and the kids I got, I can't get a worldwide artist. I don't even want a worldwide artist right now because they're going to take away from my family. I don't want to do that no more. You know what I'm saying? Me, I don't, I- Is it important for you to be there for your kids? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So me, I don't know how we, two weeks and getting the artist that's so hot that we got to move to Miami and we can't be here. And I got a daughter that I got to help take school every day. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, I can't do that. But as long as my chicks coming in and long as I'm making money and helping make a Chinese lives, I'm satisfied with that. I don't want to be number one in Dallas, Texas at all. Don't put me in no carry-goer. Don't put me in no- Don't let them keep a lips, you know what I'm saying? I don't care about that because at the end of the day, people will expect you to change. People will believe in you more than they believe in God. Now I see why Sean Cotton say that. So at the end of the day, they expect so much from you when they put you in their watch card. Now it's the base of who did it. I'm not pedestal. Well, fuck that shit. Let me make my millions in peace. No, that's real. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, you know, I don't read and come, you want to go, what do you do outside of the Motree? I don't want to do nothing else outside of the Motree. Because at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying? That was my calling from God to come down here and tell you this story. Yeah, yeah. I still got albums coming out. I still got movies coming out. So my base concern is Motree to tell, tell a story of my partner, Roy Lee. But you know, on the side, I'm still going to give people chicks. You know what I'm saying? I'm still going to help people out and give people chicks. I'm still going to do it. The way I'm putting out this Nigga Motree album right now, every, every video is a short movie. Yeah, you keep teasing everybody because that's why everybody being them comments trying to say, hey, when is it coming? It's not me though. I'm just giving people hope. I'm letting people stay, it's not me though. You know, right now, young blue man, young blue, you really fucking up the Motree album right now. Cause you know, whatever you got going on with them, you knew who you were signed to before you signed to them people. You know what I'm saying? You met, you got two of my favorite people in the world in two. Mm. You got Boosie and who? Gazi. Gazi and to it. Yeah. So you don't appreciate them doing that. Young blue, you knew who you were signed to? What did he, okay. And you think that, and that's pretty much causing some, the waves to flow different at the whole late. Yeah man, you know. At Empyrean. This is coming from a person who don't really know what's going on with this, okay? I don't know. Young blue, what did young blue do? And that Boosie's brother or something, cousin? Nah, you know, it was the artist. Okay, yeah, I thought it was, yeah, I know it was his artist, but I thought it was family. They not family. No, his brother or something when he signed them all for something. Yeah, I don't know. Cause you say you don't appreciate what he did. What he's talking about, they all under the same, you know, like umbrella. It's in the, it's in the, It's friction. It's a friction right now. Okay. Because now, you know, we need Boosie to keep on doing it. Solving mode three. People want to hear Boosie in mode three. Right. We still getting plants after that combination. So, you know, at the end of the day, we will ride that combination out to people, you know, some people, people, they listen to that every night. I don't know, they can't wait for a Boosie mode three. No, I can't. I love it. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, with that situation going on, it put too many people in the middle, then you know, it's just a fucked up situation. We could, I didn't think of it, I get what you come for. We could have, So that's holding up that album, right? Well, it ain't just holding up, the album is holding up the way that, like if he's trying to deal with Boosie. Yeah. They need them talking. He need them to be able to talk to the end to it. Yeah, we shoot, they even need to shoot videos. They got a song called, Wait in the water, Powerful Motherfucker. We could have, y'all, we could have picked up, they could have picked up the option, had another mode three, and boosted another album. Badass mode three two. Yeah. But at the end of the day, with them and two of us, some goofy shit, then you know, they fucked up the whole legacy and everything, the preparation that I put around the whole mode three album. Because at the end of the day, you know, when the last album came out, I called Boosie, Boosie helped me promote it. You know, Boosie got them songs on there. Boosie riding around to it. You know, Boosie, Boosie is a big part of mode three career. Yes. You know what I'm saying? So when he, when he not happy then, he put me in the middle of there. You got a person that sit there and took a chance to change mode three life. And they into it, man. They make a whole bunch of situations. The situation is kind of, kind of sticky. You think, you think they'll ever scratch it? You think it'll ever be resolved? I try to stay out of, I don't care who did what, how they did that. But at the end of the day, they're two of my favorite people in the industry right now. Well, let me ask you this. Boosie came off about Kodak Black and 6ix9ine doing a song together. Yeah. Did you feel like you, you know, if 6ix9ine was, did you want to do something with Bumpy or would you do it for a million dollars? Yeah, Bumpy, because it is, Bumpy ain't no gangster. So he ain't into that. Yeah, no, he better not be. So that mean you could do, you could do, you could work, you could make it happen and you wouldn't have a problem with it because you ain't in that lifestyle. Yeah, Bumpy, I'm telling you about Belita. You ain't no gangster, you ain't that street shit, yeah. Go get that money. Get that money. It was all about changing your family life. But when you go to, when you was raised by them rules. Yeah. Ain't no turning back from that. Yeah. I don't care, I don't care what happened in your life. You know what I'm saying? But Kodak act like it was, you know, he just kind of talked a little bit about him on the line, doing with a rapper. I remember when Lil Tim with Vaughn posted me doing the song with 6ix9ine, everybody in the world talked about him bad. You know what I'm saying? So when you live by them gangster clothes, them street clothes, 6ix9ine, you can't even have a conversation with 6ix9ine. You know, if 6ix9ine and Gunner did a song together, niggas would go crazy, yeah. But like I said, in the world right now, snitching is not bad to some people. They don't care. To the industry now, you know, they catch niggas every day by snitching. People still go listen to them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, you know. Do you, okay. Because you remember snitching, what's the difference, what's the difference in being, and that don't matter no more. What's the difference in having a gay homeboy or a snitch homeboy? That's a weird question, Ray. What the hell? What's worse? What's worse than having a gay homeboy or a niggas that snitch in today's time? That's a crazy question, Ray. You know, cause it really don't, gay person is different. A snitch is something you can violate the code on. A gay person is something where they're struggling with something that's they're dealing with. You find that your main partner is undercover. Okay, let me answer that question. The difference is your main partner that's undercover, whatever, he not bringing it to you. He just, you know, he gay, whatever. That's his business. But when you have a homeboy that's a snitch, he could be snitching on you and you don't even know. Yeah. That's the difference. But yeah, you're right about that. But in the culture we live in now, how it don't matter. Why do you think, why haven't Bootsy been back on Vlad since he came home? He was screaming he was gonna go back, but he ain't went back. I've been waiting on that. He ought to be back a month. But still he said when he got out, I'm feeling like I'm on my way to Vlad. He might, you know, they probably did, they probably held him. Just holding him back. Yeah. Yeah. I had a question. I seen him at the BT Awards. You seen him at, yeah, you was there too? And you everywhere. That was at the BT Awards. How was it at the BT? I was, I'm kind of upset cause I have to feel like Birdman should have been there. You know, with everybody. Man, I'm saying that's why, let me tell y'all about Dallas. Tell y'all about Dallas. So we in that BT were me, Bumper Johnson. Yeah, because I'm, oh boy Prince performed. Right. Look, let me tell you, I seen them motherfuckers too. Who? Prince now. You speak to them? Yeah, at least I was outside talking, taking pictures and shit like that. And I seen them and I said, damn y'all performed me. Like, you all like, damn, let me walk in with y'all. X-Mallet came out on Walker. No. I said, look at them damn stanky legs. It was four of them. You usually were fine. Somebody got left. Yeah, so boom. So boom. I ended up getting in walking through the back. You know, I was just, I was back. Walking through the back way? Yeah. At one point I was down there, back there helping them build shit. Look, look at all my kids. Listen, listen. At one point in time, I'm back there with me, Fabulous, Jadakiss, Fat Joe. Damn, right? Fabulous looked at me and said, you ready? You got, you ready? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm down. So he looked at me again like, you don't even know what the hell I'm talking about. So I told my partner, dude, little dude, I said, come on, let's give him back here. I don't know. These niggas, these niggas thing. Oh, they don't know what these niggas thing is. What he thought you were going to do there as you were going to perform? So I walked out to the front, right? I can't remember, I think Jadakiss, one of the niggas back there, back there, and I think he was performing, I lived back there, it was a bunch of backup dancers back there dancing. He thought you were going to go in? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. So I said, damn, I could have been on TV dancing. I fucked up. I fucked up. I fucked up, nigga, I fucked up. Would you to came out with him? Yo, I would hit the rag daddy. I would have came out to the rag daddy. What big exit plug after he didn't go there? He didn't go there. Only Dallas, the niggas represent Dallas, or Stakely and Niggas. But that's what I was talking about. So Dougie Fresh is in the front of us the whole time, right? He came out to the other Dougie, I didn't like that. Exactly, and Dallas ain't saying nothing about it. That's what I be talking about. I've seen it, I'm like, what the hell? But publicly Dallas ain't saying nothing about it. So hold on, but aren't you doubts why you didn't say nothing about it? Say it again? Why you didn't say nothing about it? Sometimes when I say too much shit about it, it's like Ryan being negative, Ryan doing this, Ryan doing that. So right now you gotta understand is take a seat back and see who else goes to take care of it. Nobody's saying nothing. Nothing. Damn. Lil Will didn't say nothing. Lil Will came over here to talk shit about me instead of sitting there and saying, man, for the BET, well, they didn't have me up there. I had the, but he came before the BET Awards even came out. Okay, then you make sure you came after. Yeah, he should have just said he. Something. Yeah, because they was wrong. They was wrong, they should have been wrong. Nobody else says, nobody says nothing about it. So what do you think the problem is in Dallas, man? Man, they, sometimes they, they, they, they, they, it's, I don't know, it's some shit that I ain't never seen before. That's some shit I ain't never seen before. But let me tell you, the females in the rap game, Glorilla fucked it up. How? Because, I put like this, so you had, you started out with Missy Elliott, right? Nice classy woman, right? We ain't started with no damn Missy Elliott. I'm saying, I'm saying in, in, in, in the last 20 years. Okay. Yeah, he started, that's where he started. You got Missy Elliott, then you got Foxy Brown, you got Lick Hymn, they was kind of provoked, they were kind of out of control and it was cool. But then you come back to, you come back to Megan and Megan and them city girls, that area of breaking tricks and this and that, right? That was that, that kind of got out of line. We thought, whew, it's out of line now. The Megan and city girls, you don't want your kids, listen to it. But this Glorilla. Yeah, for them. This, they cheap, the Glorilla brought out the ratchets. That red? Yes, yes, Glorilla brought out this Glorilla, the sexy red and that girl, Shakuna got the time to eat an ass. That's what it's all about. Yeah, oh my God. The B2 was so ratchet. I thought that's how Tyler Perry just took it over, he got it straight and everything. Nah, man, that bitch was ratchet because the Glorilla fucked up the females rapping. She sound, he ain't got time to date, he ain't do anything. Yeah, yeah, I told you, I told you, I'll say she last year that that bitch wasn't gonna be shit. She ain't, she's still going. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. Nah, not like that. Not like that. Cause she different. Oh, Baltimore say he wasn't Mobo Joseph. She stole his beat to his song. I bet I talked about that. Who that Mobo Joseph? He owns that beat from out of Louisiana. Mobo Joseph. That's summertime jam. Yeah, he mad about that. But you think that, okay, when you look at Dallas, do you think anytime soon, we had had a mega hit. What's the hottest song out now? Not just in Dallas, anywhere. In the world? In the world. Right now. That, uh, that, uh, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, Yeah, I heard that shit everywhere. That's it. They killing it right now. My daughter listen to it. That's the only reason I know it. My daughter, she, she pop, pop, pop it all. She pop, pop, pop, pop it all. That damn six flag. Yeah. Yeah, that's the hottest song in the club. That's what they'll do, what they'll do from. Atlanta? Atlanta. Atlanta. Yeah. I can say it. Newtie, Newtie. Yeah. Rain is, is man, you know, you, you had a, would you be willing to do anything else with, uh, OG Bobby Billions? I talked to him. Actually, Crawford never reached out. If Eminem weren't gonna show up, then they would come out the outside. They was. Yeah. Wow. Damn. You would have let that happen? Hell yeah. I need a more three-four somewhere and then more the program. Damn, that would have been crazy. But that, and I talked, Not for you. Yeah, yeah. I had to talk. But you would have felt like you betrayed the city. Huh? Yeah. Because you on the opposing side, that's what he's looking at. Hell yeah. You would have been looking crazy out here. Because I'm from Dallas and then he's the opposing team. They'd have been upset with you now, right now. Bobby was gonna walk out with me. With him. Fuck that. Then we, then I need more three-fours and I'm more three. I'm team more three. I don't care about nothing that's going on in life. No, I'm team more three. You would have let Crawford walk out after that. Anything that made me cry, I can't get off. Nah, that's real. That's real. No, I did it, bro. Nah. That's hard what you just said. Yeah. It touched you. It hit you right. Nah, for real. So I'm team more three, man. You got to provide the real. If you didn't have to provide the real. My nigga was, what the hell? My nigga voice over come out on the out of tour. You know what I'm saying? What? That was going crazy. Yeah, so that's why I was pushing for. So you and Bobby, y'all talked about it? I told Bobby he was stupid. Why? He was. You talking about some of the stuff he did? Yeah, yeah. You talking about the situation. He told me like a man, right? I ain't think I was like that. Now you explain it. I'm just glad y'all talk, man. You see people can get past their situation. Man, Bobby went into it. Bobby was just. You know, you just messing with him, but just the way it all was coming out. Like people think sometimes they make you out to be the bad guy, man. I'm telling you, I talked to everybody. A lot of people think he evil. He don't want to do good by people. Why they say that? Because it's just some of the way that you. That you always have all too emotional when you dealing with people. I know, because at the end of the day, listen, listen, at the end of the day, I don't need nobody for shit. I don't need nothing. My partner was lower than me. I don't know that my partner, he gone. So everything goes. Second nature. Yeah, it's just fun. I get it. You know what I'm saying? It's just, it's just, it's just fun. I got a question. So you went to Roland Laud the other day? No. Cause I saw you in a picture with Bun B somewhere. At Trill Burger? You went down to Trill Burger. You ain't trying to do something. Trill Burger. How was it? Yeah, cool. You like the burger? How do you rate the burger compared to any other burger? People ain't rate it wrong. You know, I really bug in the money over there. I ain't ate a vegan burger. But still, how is it? No, like seven, eight. Seven, eight. It was good, pretty good. Yeah, now, now. No, it wasn't good. It was good, but I know some places and over there, old cliff that we used to eat back in the day, or some home-apopper burgers. Pretty damn good. They still open today? So it must not be that good. Bun B can promote. He promote like hell. Yeah, everywhere. I went in there just to Pimpsy Alms and Pimpsy Alms. I'm gonna jump in there. Jump in there. I don't have a way to get down there. 24 hours, I mean, 24 hours, that's all they plan. They pay that home. UGK. Every day, all day. Boys kicking back, laying in the shade. I done got that burger and got me a double-cumpo, that big pony drink in there. Sit there and lick that bun. Sit that bun. I thought I was from Houston for a minute. Bumpy thought he was from Houston. Bumpy shot a whole video on that side. That was hard too. That was hard. I loved it. I was out there taking pictures from them people. I loved it, man. So I walked in, we had a big old Houston face back down there. It was just the atmosphere. Was it jam-packed? Yeah. Yeah. You didn't stand in line? Nah, bun came out there. That's what he was doing. Come and get me when he seen the pictures outside. He couldn't get me, yeah. Then he told me we were across the street to the shoe store. Now, listen, let me be real. I don't met niggas around the world. Rappers, right? Yeah. Well, fuck it with Bumpy, because I ain't do that with three. I been meeting them old niggas I ain't never met. Okay. Bumpy like that. And it's so exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's so exciting to me. Kiki, Kiki told me. Right. Niggas, all them samples you be hearing, that's me. That's right. You guys to be here until the day I die. Yeah, you didn't learn. You didn't know that I chunk up the deuce for the sample? Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. That knock-a-dove down. Yeah, knock-a-dove down. That's a wrap. Yeah. That's him. Is that Sinside way he's born today? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He say, right, all them samples. That's him. That's Kiki. And so then I talked to Pow Wow about an hour, two hours. Pow Wow gave me the rundown. I mean, you know, they didn't insult us because we weren't issues, we weren't as you see. Yeah. You know, we was a rapper. I mean, a social house. So, you know, and then, you know, my first, my first, my number one freestyle album in that time. I mean, they're not freestyle, but in that time. A millionaire in Pow Wow. Coletranian clip. Coletranian clip. I think a millionaire in the fuck in Pow Wow. Why do you say that? Knock it because they both did good. But if they could, would it continue? They did good anyway. But still though, man, they were. Destiny had to happen, man. Yeah, but still though, we need to hear one more Coletranian click out. I'd love to see that. But, but community, I don't even. He retired. I know, I know, I'm tired. That's how I talked to him. We was in Vegas at Dress Club. Remember, I was up there with him. Man, we, we, we reminisced and talked for a long time. That, uh, big swangles and buggy 20 inches in love. I remember when that album came out, I got to that trailer village. You got to go to Mr. So too. Oh, the village. Yeah, that's what was going in. Yeah, so don't say I told Pow Wow. So, you know, you know, when I go down there to that Houston, it's like, man, it's exciting to me. Very exciting. Because I'm talking about, I was young. I had to be like sixth, fifth, seventh grade. This, today, freestyle. Yeah. What I can say about them niggas, I'm sitting over and over again, is they OG rappers out there. They respect them. They respect and they make them money. They still make them money. Yeah, so, you know, um, you know, in Dallas right now, you know, you know, you still ain't got no, you still ain't got the role models to look up to. Yeah, yeah. You know, those niggas got businesses in and all the niggas, most niggas out there got restaurants and shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the thing you got to realize is a lot of talent out there. I talked to Chos. Slim Thug doing a lot too out there. Yes, Slim Thug doing a lot of shit. I like Chos. And B. King. He's still ain't talking. No, B. King too. B. King, B. King, he's still, he wanted those guys. B. King, you're part of that whole legacy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Legacy wise, he's working right now with music. You're part of that whole legacy. Legacy wise, B. King is the man out there. 15 years straight. Right. 13 years straight. They got mad at me, cause I said, he took a year off. That ain't all you said, right? I said, I said, that ain't all you said. You had a lot of fly stuff to say, bro. That's what I said. I said, tell B. King, get back in them sandals. Since he got that pretty nice young girl, we ain't heard no hits. Get back with Tasha, please. You can't say that, man. Man, that nigga was on over. But you can't say that. Why? Because you don't want nobody to say nothing about you and your personal life. That motivates me. Yo, I got a tweet right now when I was in jail. 2013, B. King put out, L-O-L, have anybody heard from Rainwater? No. Put down my keys. He know that. When I got out, I said, thank you for being, it was like a shout out to me. Thank you for being B. You don't even brought my name up. Did you hear this? Because it's wild, man. Y'all wild. But still, though, there wasn't no, there wasn't no, no, no diss. Yeah. Yeah. What no diss. Uh-uh. So, OK. So, so you think. What can Dallas do to collectively get this circle right? How can we unify, bro? We are unifying. I want to see the, I want to see everybody, you know, make hits and I ain't saying come together. But at least when it's time to do the music, come together. That's the part right there. Mm-hmm. When it's time to do the music, we need to come together. What you mean, though? Meaning it don't matter. It don't matter. It really, really just don't matter. Like right now, the really, the hardest collab, you just said Bump, it was number two. OK, Big X number one. Why there ain't no track from Big X and Bump? No, no, no, I'm working on it. I'm working on it because at the end of the day, uh, yeah, I'm working on this situation, you know. But you see what I'm saying? No, no, no, but this is the problem, bro. No, no, no, no, I'm just saying like this. They got, they got other songs with other people, too. Dallas is working together than we have ever seen. I don't agree with that. Why? What other people they got songs with? Uh, uh, you got Big X and Kevin got Benz. OK, that's one, man. What's the rule? You got other things, but see at the end of the day, before people start doing songs with you, they got to find a sales. I get it, man. I'm saying, though, you got to find a sales first. Then you don't think that we from Texas remix with everybody on it. That's out. That's Texas Unified. We be hard, bro. I think we from Texas remix need to be D baby, Michigan, OT. And D baby, Michigan, OT. No, you can't just say that. Yeah, but Michigan, OT and D baby is the kings of Texas. D baby, Michigan, OT and Big X, the kings of Texas right now. Yeah, but then you still need, you got Bumpy and whoever. Yeah, y'all understand that. But outside, outside of Big X right now, ain't nobody even putting the work in to be a superstar. They not even Bumpy. He not Big X out, Big X out of the hours and no clip on on on Count Wilson. Got, got, got, got more history. Got more hits right now. He's out in the club. And he went to the club since the club took three months straight to little B to let everybody know he's still outside. He's still working, taking pictures with everybody. Now they not. You can't pay some of these rappers right now to go outside and promote their music constantly. They scared. They are not scared. Just, you know, they comfortable. And they can put the work in to get to where he at. I tell niggas around me all the time. The fuck got to go get some clothes for and go out for. I think Big X did it with a shirt off and sweatpants for a whole year, two years. Yeah. So to get to his body and he worked for that. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, I got. Yeah. So at the end of the day, ain't nobody deserve to even be on the track with him right now because he worked for that. He did. I like to see little Rosama get with you. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now that's who I think he said, that's who told him to rap. Yeah, yeah, Rosama. But now, now niggas work for that. Put that on my kids. You work for it. Like, I remember seeing him last week. I mean, about a month or two weeks ago, the fuck is he doing at the half house? Went two weeks in a row. Who hit him at the half house? Lil B-man. That's his manager? Nah, that's the promoter and the Dallas. He shouldn't have been there. He should have. Oh, OK. These rappers now got guidelines. Nigga ain't no guidelines. I want to be a rapper. I know a nigga the other day tell me, but they got to pay me to go to shit like that. Nigga, who the fuck is you? Niggas will get fly on you. Nigga, who the fuck is you? Now, Big X is the perfect reputation of this city. Wow. Do you have your other? What about San Antonio? Do they have artists? I put Big X a month throughout. I got to ask you that. Do San Antonio ever have any artists? Any, anybody? I had a little girl. Yo, your neat red is a bad motherfucker at Third Boy. San Antonio ain't found that identity yet. OK, OK. They still stuck between, should we act like Houston? You got to watch that. Austin get called it because it's so close to Houston. Yeah, Houston and San Antonio, they still stuck in it. They still stuck on Houston. They still riding swangas. And if you bring Paola Kiki or anybody out there, they going to pack that bitch up. Let's talk about how important that question is. Hold on, hold on. Since you said that, how important is it for an artist to rep his city, to rep the sounds from his city and not to try to sound like any other city? You give them hope. Kill city hope. Once a nigga blow up past their city, outside their city, and rep their city, you get a whole community hope. Can he blow up without repping his city? No. You need a foundation. I know niggas running here. I can't even pay. I tell them go to the club. We don't need that as fuck that as. No, you need Dallas. You need Dallas. You need Dallas. Every rapper that lasts longer, unless you just like a TikTok rapper, every rapper last long in the game, they need their city. Yeah, because when you say that, I'm talking about Houston. That's what Houston do. Houston have their sound. Houston reps Houston. I told bumpers because bumpers not from Dallas or Houston. So I told bumpers to redo a Houston song. Who would he do? He did once. He was laying on. He was laying on over five million streams in two or three months. And so I told him to redo a Houston song. What's his next move? The Houston culture. Bumpy got his. Listen, I can come catch anybody in the rap game in Dallas, Texas, even Texas, with the sound he got. Because it's something about that sound that they like their soulful sound. So I can come get anybody. I'm coming to get everybody. With Bumpy. Yeah. Bumpy and Key. A-O-F Key. Moe Money from Fort Worth. He's from Oakley, but he's staying Fort Worth. I keep telling you from Fort Worth. He moved from Oakley when he was 11, 12. And we're staying Fort Worth since you from Fort Worth. Well, my young water was Moe Money. But right now, my front line, I'm coming to get everybody. I'm coming to take over the game in the next three months with Bumpy. I got to ask you about the night, big, big poke past on that stage. Po-Roe. Man, that was a tough one. I know ESG, the one that hit me up at three o'clock. I was like, poke died. I said, what? Like, what did you think about that? Because I'm going to be honest with you, it messed me up. Because I haven't gone wrong. You know, I'd already texted many. I'd been texting trying to get him on the show. I'd hit everybody up. When I talked to Renetta, I had talked to Aldi. I talked to all of them. Man, I need to talk to big poke. I got him phone. I don't even think I got his number. I'm texting the niggas, man. I wanted to interview him. And then this happened. I was so upset, bro. Die, baby. I definitely didn't want to see him leave. He was eating. Man, it made me go run and pray. That shit, that was sad. It was sad. And the weight. Because he had just lost weight. He was losing weight. He wasn't as big as he used to be. You know, I realized, when you big and you start losing weight, that's when you start getting sick. I noticed that too. I'll be seeing that. It's like you become. Do you think because they be trying to lose it too quick and they're not losing it the way they supposed to? I don't know. Heavy D done that when he had lost that weight. He died. He got that blood clot on that plane. I'm starting to realize that. No, that's real. C-Strux got counsel when he started losing weight. Damn. They out fast, they out and die. They trying to lose weight. Trying to lose weight. But you don't know if this would have happened even if they wasn't trying to lose weight and next few months that would have happened. I think your body be content. Where it's at. Where it's at. Yeah, well, I agree. I'll be thinking about stuff like that too. So that's a huge thing, man. So are you, you know already I'm gonna ask you about pink pressure? Like you sit over and did the interview. I hadn't heard nothing else. How's she doing? I think she ain't got mad at me. She said, Is she mad at you again? Yeah, she said, It's all about time. She wants you to bring her out. Yeah, she was like, you don't take me nowhere, didn't take everybody else over. It's all about time. You don't think she ready? Mentally, no. So she gotta be mentally and physically. Because the devil give you tools to destroy yourself. I've heard you say that before. Yeah, he has. And you think that's pretty much that can happen? I think it can happen, you gotta be mentally ready for it. I seen a little boy, Put like this, this is what I do too. I sit there. Hey, I know everybody who ever got mad at me, you don't hear nothing from them all. So a lot of people get mad at you. I tell you, all these have been around me. What? What did you do? You're the number seven of all the people you had? And now Pink. So why? Now Pink, she ain't with you no more, but she just managed. I was never coming back manager, I was dropping singles under my company. Okay. You know what I'm saying? That's why you don't hear nothing from them no more. Because you see, you could tell it was all me. Push it now. Damn. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy, but I feel you. I feel you. So why you would say that? Because you should still hear them is what you say. I should still hear them. Once they leave, I just like. Or even hear them even more because they should be trying to prove you wrong. So sometimes the fans, I remember when number seven left and they was like, me and seven got into it, the fans like, okay, now he can finish his career now because he ain't know the brand what is in there. You ain't heard nothing from them. So, you know how I try to push the people for the best. I don't have to be around you to go to the studio. You know what I'm saying? Hey, y'all see the nigga that play basketball? They want to play basketball? The kid that play basketball, football? You'll see him act like he's driven around the house, laying up every five minutes. You know what I'm saying? You see a nigga play, act like he play football. He just running like he bumping and everything. You know what I'm saying? I don't have to tell you go to the studio. Now you're right. I shouldn't have to tell you to go make a, I mean to write a song. You shouldn't have to call me for, I see our managers don't pay for shit. People are confused. They believe managers pay for everything. They don't. That's an investor or a label. Our managers just get you indoors that you don't belong in. You know what I'm saying? Every artist out of head wouldn't belong, it wasn't supposed to be in that position. You know what I'm saying? No, I get it, I get it. I got a question. Go ahead. Recently we had somebody on our show, Tony Wilrich. The gay crew. What you think about him? He said he's the first gay open, gay gangster rapper, Crip gangster rapper. Yeah, but his artist is supreme, right? I mean, is supreme his manager? Yeah, it's good. Yeah, Bob's supreme. Bob finally came out and did what he, you know what I'm saying? He came out, that's good. You know what I'm saying? Okay, I mean. The nigga Tony gonna be big. So you think, so that's gonna be good for supreme? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Supreme finally came to the. And found himself one. Found himself, period. He found himself. Well, explain, elaborate on that. He's like, he's happy now. You remember when supreme was, he first he went from Kay Breesy. Yeah, he's still, I think he's still right with Kay Breesy. Kay Breesy was like, she came out and said she was gay. She did? Yeah, she said she was. I didn't know who that was. She got a shag, he had a shag and everything. So she found like she was gay. And then her, you come with Bob supreme with the first gay rapper. In fact, for the tour. What you, okay, keep going. Cause you sound like you're insinuating something. Oh, he's happy with the, that's what he's happy now. He don't have to, we don't have to go around chasing real tune or more. He don't have to go around chasing these gangsters and try to get them on film and nothing like that. Like he found, he did it, I'm proud of him. He finally found himself. Wow, you know, I tried to get y'all to set up together. I wanted to talk with y'all. Man, they want some cloud, I mean. But now that nigga Tony gonna be big. You think he gonna be big? Bland shared him twice? Yeah, dude, you got Jonathan, you got, you got. He wasn't viral on our, on our tour. Yeah, what I'm saying, he gonna be big. I'm happy for supreme. You think, what do you think? You think he's talented? Huh? You think he's talented? Nah, he's just got a, he's a character. Okay. It's his character that they come, I ain't never listen to no damn song, but it's just his character. Yeah, he took pictures with OG Percy. Yeah, he's really like, marketing. And what that nigga gonna do is, he gonna open eyes up to different niggas that's there. That's on the code? On the, that's y'all saying, so like, you know, you got a thousand niggas that I ain't gonna never do no song with no snitch. Yeah. And then you got, you got niggas like, oh, they gonna do a song with them, right? Yeah, yeah. And now it gonna be, he gonna open the door. He gonna, it gonna be one nigga do a song with them. They wouldn't pose to do no song with them. So he gonna get somebody on the track. Yeah. One of these, the stiff dudes. You know what the stiff dudes, one of these stiff niggas gonna be broke. And they gonna do it. It can't pay they rent. I need the money. They gonna take that, they gonna take that 500. Wow. What, what do you think? How is it? Okay, should a person try to get on the radio now? Or, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They should try to get on the radio? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Is anybody like, and I don't listen to the radio a lot, but do big X, he be, is he spending on the radio? I just had him over here. So he always on there? Yeah. I just had him over here. Is he the only one that you hear on there that's locally from Dallas now? Right now? Yeah, I guess. About the only one. Okay. It's a new generation right now. Explain, what do you mean? The old generation with the Mothry, Yellowford. Yeah, yo. Oh, that's dead. Bobby put it, placed itself in that generation too now. Because? He went backwards. I told him though. I ain't turnin' just turnin'. He gonna say, Ryan tell me. Bobby put himself in that generation too, but that whole generation dead. It's something about how you always, you always be, you try to focus in and make sure, cause you see, when you can see what's coming your way, it's good. Listen, there's new generation right now? I'll tell you the new generation. Big X. Big X is the king of this new generation. He is the role. He is the king of this new generation, right? Right. It's Big X, Montana 700, Zee and Erdo, Bumpy Johnson, Lizzac, Savage. That's about it. That's about it. They the new generation of Dallas. If y'all don't watch out, they go, Dallas ain't gonna be prepared again. You didn't say Johnny D.M.D.? Nah, he don't know. He can't get in there? Nah, he don't know. Nah, we talking about new faces. But he ain't really just pivoting. He ain't really, he did. He ain't, he's talking about new faces. Mike Fresh still. These new faces, man. Man, man, let's say, what's the thing that got this on bounce when she walked in with crazy everywhere? We're talking about street rap. Not the TikTok. Nah, TikTok niggas be broke. What? And they don't make it long. What you think about it? You gotta keep coming up with a new song. A TikTok. They keep chasing the viral, not chasing the money. So you say... So the viral should come with the money? No. Virals don't sell cause after a month or two there ain't viral no more. They got to bring it after that. No, no, no. After a month or two, when you go viral on TikTok, you got two months, 60 days, 90 days at the most. Shouldn't you take that song and go perform it though? Yeah, yeah, but still though, but then when you coming out... You get a deal in 60 days, right? You can't get no deal out of no TikTok, they're gonna give you a single deal. Not no situation. You got to keep coming out with a new song. But when you come from the streets, outside of going viral. Like an F&L? It lasts forever. F&L? Put it up, put it on. It lasts forever. That wasn't viral. That was a good song. Put it on. You know what I'm saying? So them TikTok rappers out there saying that TikTok shit is a curse. When you gonna get Bobby Johnson back up here, man? I gotta really tell him to meet me over here. Well just tell him, we're gonna have to set it up. Cause I didn't get him over here. I like talking to him, I knew he was gonna give me something. He always perform. May y'all know who I want right now? Who? I want that girl K.P. You want K.P? Yeah, she a star. You can't take up from C4S? And I ain't trying to take it from him. I just move the point. So what do you want with her? I want partnership with her. Partnership. She a star. Why don't you try to have her do a song with Bumpy? Nah. You don't want to shine the light on me, right? I don't have about four labels to ask me about her. Really? She a star. She can do like a nigga one day and a girl the next day. She is a star. C4L got a bunch of stars over there. That's why it's called a click for the stars. You got the white girl. You got the white girl over there. Then you got the little short stood. Yeah, they got a click for the stars. Then Gigi? Yeah, you got a click for the stars. They got a lot of followers too. They banging. Yeah, I need that group. You want to work with them? Why you just don't work with them? I can't just work with nobody. You want to sign them on there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm Phil Jackson. Well, how you going to op our prints on? You got to do a joint venture. Yeah, I'm going to have to do it because of them. You got to come right. Nah, I don't got to come right. He got rid of them. I ain't going to waste my time if it ain't right. Got to be right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But there's a date. You know, he got a click for the stars over there. So don't you think that even unique? Don't you think? OK, it's he had had Joker over there with him. And then the Joker went with 50. Man, you see how Dallas do? Motherfuckers, I let you come snatch up their artists in the whole seat of Dallas. Don't don't don't say nothing about it. Come on. He had gutter. OK, come on. They letting them take them from him. So what can they do with that? That's your business. Dallas need a protest about the whole situation. Erica Banks. She back. I don't know. She back now because you need us. She need us. Yeah. You need your city. How do you think that she, do you think she was right to make the decision she did? I think she said openly she not with 1501. No, because that man sit there and pay for all this shit. So she wrong for that? Wrong with the mother over there. That man sit there and help you get you where you was at. He won't shit over there with top off. What would you do if your artist did that to you? She, they have. And what would you, what did you do? I moved on. They had me somebody that's replacing them. I'm talking about her. Wow. So you could you, would you put Bobby Johnson and do a song with Erica Banks? Yeah, yeah, I need her Spotify listeners. Yeah, because she did make numbers and she do have a. I'll come to play. Don't put them all three out. I'll change my mind. Cause she really, she really right now to be. Why? For a person to do somebody like that. You think she gonna do you wrong? They'll probably listen for, she only did two people wrong. Who she did wrong? She left hairpink. And then now she did that to car. And now she left car. You think anybody, but there's somebody else to still take her up. Yeah, no, she a burnout now to turn out. She a burnout now to turn out. Damn. That motherfucker gonna burn out. So you, so you don't feel like, like, what's the one thing that can can make artists to stay loyal though, right? You gotta understand what you, what y'all want together. It gotta be in them no matter what. Yeah, it gotta be in them. It gotta be in them. Not on them. Yeah, it gotta be in them. How did you maintain with Mo3 all this time, all that time? Cause y'all used to be, y'all used to have back and forths too. No, but we knew, we had back and forth cause we knew what we was, what we was, what we was trying to get. You know, you know, the last two rappers I had that I stopped having, you know, I had back and forth cause I felt like they weren't trying to take over the world. But at the same time, when you imagine somebody or you're dealing with somebody, you remember it's just like a relationship. Both of y'all have to be growing in the same sort of way and manner. Yeah, yeah. And at one point you said that he was just totally trying to do street when you trying to elevate it in a different way. I understand that, but see, if y'all don't see me, if y'all don't see me win the championships cause in the music game, I got the money to show it and I got the plastic show. So the plastic like championships, right? If y'all don't see me do it, you should listen to me a hundred percent. I'm telling you how to do it. I done did it before. Yeah, I'll be up here talking about managers listening to it. I ain't got no credentials ever. Ever. If I was smart, I would've got to play for, I would've got to play for Gutter Bitch cause I was there and I would've got to play for a lot of shit. But you know, at the end of the day, y'all want to play for what I know I created. You got advantage on a lot of the managers because you do promo and all. You know how to promote the parties, the gigs. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people don't have that leverage. Listen, in 2000, 2023, they be like, what have you done? I got one rapper signed from North Carolina. I got him signed just straight out of Dallas Blockers. You know what I'm saying? Made over down to a hundred thousand off of Boots Show and Tyler. Yeah, I seen that you, whether it was down there, wasn't it? I seen you with web. Yup, then came back. Book Fredo Bang on a huge tour. Yeah, I saw that tour. Tour, so at the end of the day. Gonna keep him busy for a while. Yeah, so at the end of the day, I'm still doing more than the average person. Promoting and stuff? I don't want to be caught on managing them up. My own label, I got some good news. What is your title? What do you want to be called? I'm a CEO. That's what you want everybody to call you? Yeah, one of you don't manage it. I do a lot of shit. I can go promote, I can do a lot of shit. I got a question. So, you know, current events, it says that Cardi B might be- She threw that damn mic at that person. A battery charge might be coming towards her. They threw water on her, but I seen the second part of that. She was asking people to throw water on her, and then she threw that damn mic. Oh, Cardi B was asking people to throw water at her? Yes, she was saying splash, man. They were throwing water up at her. Then when that last person did it, she got frustrated because she wasn't looking for it to come at that time. But, uh- Yeah, yeah, and then they splashed it and then she threw that mic. She threw the mic, and she hit the person that threw that water at her, but it ricocheted off of that person that hit somebody else. And that person the next day went to the police department. Hell, yeah. And tried to show- Oh, I wish I was there. Me too, I'd show who it was. Yeah, like Charlo. What's the- Who got slapped? That- The brother that got the middle problems. Yeah, listen, it ain't nothing you could do. He slapped you on cameras. You got insurers. You can't do nothing. How late, man? I got some good attorneys, son. Yeah. They'll get you to the- They'll get you to the last door. But then when you're a celebrity, it's like almost like everybody tried- Not everybody, but any little thing you do, it's a lawsuit. That's the only way you can do it. That's the way the game goes. Man, you a real model. You can't do that microphone that they laid like that. That lady- But it's a reaction. Somebody pinch you, you gon' drop? That lady ain't worth nothing when it comes to money. Like, huh? But you'll get mad if a cop go off his reaction. Cause they say he's trained. No, a celebrity is trained. Not a lot of these celebrities- Not a lot of them are not trained. But you go through orders, development. You go through- Some of them. But you deal with it every day. That's training. If I walk out right now, it's training for me to be prepared for whatever come my way. Cause I deal with it every day. You know what I'm saying? For y'all guys here, I'm sitting there shaking four, five niggas' hands. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I'm trying to do it every day. I can stop at the lights, stop at the gas station. Somebody say, rain, water, rain, water, rain, water. So I'm just trying to do whatever come my way. I'm trained. I am naturally trained. And somebody out here might not even like you and they come to you pretending. You don't know who they are. You don't know they could be- Yeah, that's the worst thing. You could be with your momma, you could be with your family, you could be with anybody. Niggas come up every day. You don't know who they are. How do you move when you're with your kids? You can't really just say too much to me. Yeah, you can't really just say too much to me. You won't stop and talk to fans or none of that when you're with your family? Yeah, I'ma talk to them. No, I'ma talk to them in aggressive way before they even walk up to me. They see what they are. I'ma look at them more. I'ma, you know, on go with my family with me. Yeah, you have to be. But you know, I be with my family all the time. People always say, Ryan, why don't you just move? I'll be a selfish bastard to move. Yeah, because you said a long time ago in one of our interviews that you, if Mo was still here, you would have had it moved. Like you still here, why you don't move? Because I got too many kids and I'll be selfish to move. You told, no, but you told me the last time that you had all your kids come and they're living in your house. Yeah, bullshit. I got more kids in them. So you ain't put them all in the same house, too? Not the driblest. Why not? Huh? Why not? They got their own situation there. That mother of that child, you know, she got her own house and everything. So I can't just put everybody in there. I got my mom in there, I got my whole family. But you got money, so why not move them all to another city? When you get to an age, how could I move my grandpa to another city and he got dialysis? You can transfer him to another location. He was not leaving. He was sitting there waiting. I want to ask you about, man, I was looking at the internet because your face come up a lot and you ended up going to jail. Right. It was all over the place. Right. And I was saying, what the hell, Ron? I called you. I said, man, what's going on? We didn't really go into detail, but why would a hell, why are you in jail? Why are you going to jail? And you posted it at night before that night with the lights flashing in your airfield mirror. But I got to talk about that right now, but... You can't talk about it. But you know... I know your face was everywhere on that mug shot. You just got to watch out to how these people that, uh... With the sneaky ways. Listen, one thing, yeah, sneaky ways. Is there a case? It ain't from the big one. It ain't from the big one. Okay. But it's there for me and you can't talk about it? But you know, at the end of the day, like I tell you, I don't sell no dope, I don't do nothing to leave this. So you ain't got nothing to hide? Uh, I changed it. Hell no. Man, hell no. Rob make good rap chicks. Hell no. And I try to change these little nigga's lives around me. You know what I'm saying? You don't screw nobody over. I ain't never fucked nobody over there in my life. Put it on my... You can't name one person I fucked up. In the beginning, before you blew up, you did not mess nobody over. Not really like that? No. Don't say not really. It's either you did or you didn't. Not one person. Don't say that. I fucked up. You told stories before that you did. No. No? No, because in the beginning? No, no, it ain't fucking over. They try to snake me and I snake them. I gotta ask you about Jamie Foxx, man. He popped out of him when this movie was coming out. He ain't look right, did he? He's always been sick, but I'm just saying he popped out. Well, he was light though, wasn't he? He was light skinned. But you think he a clone? I have to do this with y'all, man. Hold on. If you sitting down in a room, man, have no son, no nothing, he ain't you gonna get lighter? Yeah, nah, I know niggas in prison right now. Don't come out that light. Man. Right? What are you saying though? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He ain't son, no son. What are you saying? I don't know. No, Ice Team said, he was like, don't say he a clone. Don't do that, that man been sick. Oh, okay. No, this clone thing only came up because of the movie coming out. That movie, he popped out and previewed this movie thing like, hey, you know what I'm saying? And then he did that. Planned. Then he did his eyes all crazy. That's Jamie. And it's just a hell of a clone. And there's a good one if it is. What ever happened, you think he would pass? Well, don't do this. No, no, no, I know what this is going on. What you saying? You think they wouldn't let it happen? You sure? You think Turtle Texas, they would have had a big old? Oh, for sure. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, I went down there. I had to go down there. You know how I drive down there. So they got parks and shit with Jamie? No, they just got his house is there. They keep his house up. They have a mural. They have a huge mural down there. You should show love. You see, you don't even go show love. He right down the street. 20 minutes. I don't think I know about Turtle Little Dang Dang. Little Dang Dang, I didn't get him on the show. Yeah, Little Dang Dang. You will go sign here. Yeah, I want to sign Little Dang Dang. Where can we find Little Dang Dang? We didn't get him. He probably sit down there. We need to get Little Dang Dang and put him on the show. Little Dang Dang Straight. Hey, Little Dang Dang, we're looking for you. We're going to bring you on Boss Talk 101. So hit me up. Get in my inbox. Little Dang Dang was straight up DSR ass rapper. Dang, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He won that free stop. That ain't going, boy. Yeah, I like Little Dang Dang, man. He represented Texas, man. Yeah. In the worst way. You got a couple of them. Him and that other guy too. It was a couple of them. A Savage 52 Savage. Y'all got a bunch, man. You got a lot of stuff to be going on in Dallas, man. I'm going to wrap this up, but man, just like, I'm going to say this, man, rain. Keep on doing what you're doing, man. Don't, you know, you know what I'm saying? Let's try to, I need, we need a female artist, man. If you're not going to push Pink Press out here. The city needs a, look. Erica Banks is the biggest, one of the biggest now. And it's just one more girl too. No, no, no. It's one more girl, ladies. Yeah, Angelina, is it Jolie? Shame for me. Shame for everybody. No, it's a girl. I want her. What was the other girl? Ain't nobody, man. The only thing we got right now is a guy breezing. Why you say like that? Don't do that. Boy, if this thing ain't crazy, say. No, man. I'm trying to figure out, it's an open lane here. We got to fill this up, bro. We need to fill it all in. Listen, listen, listen. The female rappers, they took it to the whole other level. Ratchet. Let me tell you. You got to neglect your kids to be a superstar, superstar. Niggas did it their whole lives. Hard on the female. Man, you got kids. Niggas did their whole lives. So now these hoes are superstars. You got to find one that don't have no kids. Exactly. Because they are superstars. Like, think about a nigga. Since St. Molly don't have no kids, do you? Since St. Molly ain't no superstar. She could be with the right management. Ice snap now, here now, because they stuck in their ways. What's her name? Ice Spice. She from New York, ain't she? Yeah, yeah. She's a version of since St. Molly and Cuban doll put together. Yeah, I can see that. Since they hard though, man. I love the way since St. Molly. But you got, but you got. Man, and a little bit of, but you got to understand. They hard, man. You understand that, but you got to understand. Maybe it's them hoes and they self bad. Since St. Molly was sounding the devil jam. Yeah. But just like what Gutter TV said on the show. Yeah, they ain't came out to it. Yeah. So at the end of the day, it's not, it's sometimes you got to understand as they say, bro, you got to, bro, to be a superstar is hard. It's not easy. People think you just blow up overnight. It's hard. Like it's not, bro, it's nothing. Okay, okay. Well, I tell you, it's not, bro, it's nothing. Okay. Well, I talk to, go to the, when I talk to smooth vaguer, he said it'd take at least 15 years. I think he said to get an artist, what they need to be. Nah, yeah, nah. That's too long. Let's take three. Didn't he say 15 years? He take me two years. I did that with Bumpy and half a year. Bumpy went from. With his help. No, he did. What did he do? You were, didn't he say that? We never discussed what he did right. What did he do? What did he do? He said he helped. He was already grinding. No, no, no, no. He helped what? He didn't really go into detail. No, no, this is what he did. Bumpy won the song out, right? I didn't want the song out. Bumpy called him to try to help him get registered to the song. Bumpy put out the song. He came on here and said, I had to help Rainwater with the song by far Bumpy's biggest song that to this day that he done came out with, right? That was a song with him and Boosie. I didn't want the song come out. I wanted another song come out then Boosie. So they put that song out first that really didn't do nothing. Then I came back and told Bumpy, go redo diamonds against the wood. They, Bumpy spent this amount of money, 20,000 dollars for Boosie and this and that and paying people for promotion. It did nothing. What I was trying to prove to Bumpy is fuck with me, you don't need no money. Stop chasing a dollar. Wow. What did you, I don't give a damn about you registering the song. Keep it free just so when we sign, they just untouch money. Chase the dream not the dollar. You was trying to teach him that. Yeah. So he called. So Vega was kind of messing up what you was trying to do. Well, I'm trying to do. Cause you don't know no better. Cause y'all have two different concepts. We all do different concepts. Yeah, they chased the dollar. I chased the dream. So right now I could take Bumpy to about four different labels. Hey, I got untouched money right here. You know what I'm saying? We don't know no better out of that. We been chasing the dream. What do you think when he said. So when he come out with the Boosie song, man, what the fuck is you doing? Who thought Boos Vega? Oh yeah, you goofy. Cause I dropped slang and I'm for free. Then we could have came back with the Boosie song. Now Bumpy would have been a superstar. He fucked over what I would have had going on. Well, he also alluded to the fact that your followers and subscribers is fake. I can't have no damn fake violas. Mode three follows. Y'all forgot my, that's all mode three. That's all. I don't know to do no damn fake follows. That's people come to my page for mode three page to see what I got going on. That was a big deal. My name still in his bio. We ain't touch this bio. That's from, that's back from before mode three. That's back from a four mode three died. Nigga, I don't got no damn fake follows. I ain't no, you know, I do fake follows of fake views. Nigga, if anything around me fake, my name was been died out. Y'all like that. I've been trying to tell everybody I'm not this. I'm not that. I'm not. Y'all niggas probably better than me. Know everything about me. Manage it. Know this, know that. Know this now. I understand y'all know all this shit. You, Bob Supreme, all you niggas, y'all do know y'all know everything better than me. Right? Y'all know everything better than me. It just, I'm led by God. Man, that's who you need to be led by. So everything that y'all do, everything that y'all say, you right. You y'all probably better than me. Y'all probably this and that, this and that. I'm led by God. I don't go by y'all books and rules and how y'all do things. That's real. I ain't, you know what I'm saying? No, that's hard. You better God, you can't go wrong. I don't go by that. I don't go by that. So at the end of the day, I don't go by that. So, you know, I heard Bob Supreme say, anybody can manage Mothry. Mothry said, when I made rain, the rap wasn't in my brain. We selling CDs like crack cocaine, bitch, we changed the game. I don't go by none of this shit y'all went by. Wow. I do like, I like the way that you take it to the feeling to help people. Yeah. When you grab, when you grab at a place where it's a place where that person's hurt. Like when Pete Presser talked about it on here, like when you go to that place, man I fuck with her. That helped people man. I fuck with her. But you know, at the end of the day, sometimes we have an argument about what the type of type of style she wanna do to turn it up young style. I don't wanna do that. I'm not trying to push up, push that. I got a daughter. You gonna help people? Yeah, I want you to try to change, to help people change, change that situation. You know what I'm saying? Come, go to the studio, come with 10 good quality songs. Then we can do this and do that. But at the end of the day, you gotta know the sacrifices that's gonna come on. You gotta leave your kid. Yeah. And I'm not gonna have your child around that type of environment. That's real. That's real, cause you can't even say this to you. Man, it's rap game to devil. You gotta be prayed up and know how to conduct yourself. This rap game is the most evil devil situation that I've ever seen in my fucking life. And if you know that, why would you wanna be in it? Oh, because I'm doing guys work. You ain't, you can't name one rapper that I've been around that ain't came out with a message from God. Man, bump it hard, man. Bump it so I can get this grandma funeral. Hold it. The next song we got is Save Me. God, won't you come save me. And I send the Kiki the song and I send DC on Fly the Song. So whoever jumped on it first will go do it. But see, everybody I ever managed, they had a message from God. So is that you implementing that in them? For them to even put out? I see it in them before them, but I see them before them and I just try to get it after. Y'all get it out of you. You know what I'm saying? I wanna ask you, how much with mode three passing away and you having to deal with all this afterwards, how much years later now, it's been a couple of years later, right? I'm finally thinking straight. That's what I'm saying. I'm finally thinking straight. I was depressed up all night drinking and all kind of shit. So I was depressed for a little while, but I'm finally thinking straight. So at the end of the day, I ran from one point to two million. Trying to find myself again. But people say you did a great job. Even smooth Vegas said that. So can't nobody take nothing from you? Cause you and mode three did that together. He did say that. Yeah, that's cool. Right now, I'm back focused. You back focused? That's easy. I'm back focused, but bumping good. Baby C, you know, but AOF key and block, but AOF key. Oh, that's the next biggest story of Dallas. If mode three could say something to you right now about what you're doing, what do you think it'll be? About this whole situation that you got going on with, or what is you dealing with? He'll tell me, start fucking with these niggas. All of them? Yeah. Why? He don't know the position and the blessing they in. Oh, okay. I get where you coming from. They all only make it off his name. But they all got to grow. They all young. They all got to grow just like he did. Still don't. He didn't have these opportunities. I know, but he had to grew from where he was though. Okay. That's like Jesus looking at us and saying, I die for y'all sins. I die to help you. I was like Martin Luther King saying, nigga, do y'all know what the shit that we went through? Y'all over struggling? Is Martin Luther King going to go to the hood and tell a black man to stand on Martin Luther King street? Nigga, I made it for where you can go get a job anywhere in the world. Right around. Are you right? Some people don't know the opportunity they have. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I had to tell Bumpy the other day, Bumpy. Those Mo3 fans that's buying them features and all that, I know you're a viratality. They not gonna just buy you from anybody. But you been around me and me vouching for you. The automatic come with Mo3 fans. That's real. So you don't understand the situation that in the type of place that you in because at the end of the date, you were represented by somebody who represented the best rapper they ever came through Dallas, Texas. So you got to ease it. You were from 10,000 followers and 90,000 followers in less than six months. That's hard. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you don't know the type of situation you in. That's, I agree with that. I can't, because you know that it comes with something. It ain't just, I agree with that. So my whole life is, so now, but it comes with something but then on the downfall, you can't do what you want to do. There's stipulations. Stipulations to Mo3 fans. Because they gonna expect certain things. Things for you, from you. From you. Yeah. Because you and him, with you managing him, automatically comes with that as well. Like Bobby, me vouching for Bobby. Yeah. Bobby was on top of the world. You going back over there, doing what you did, you lost it. You got to start all over from scratch. Do you think that you could work with Bobby again? And that things could change? Oh, yeah, but not a Mo3 shit. I wouldn't do my nigga like that. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about Forrest with like Bumpy or any of the other guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I ain't gonna lie, his style is like. Style is like a lie, a horror. At the end of the day, he cool. That all my life songs, it reminded me of OG Bobby Billions, man. I got something like that on Mo3. But look, it's cool, we cool, but I'm coming to, I'm coming to catch everybody. You got some under your sleeve? Nah, I ain't got none under the sleeve. I got everything on the opening. I'm coming for Bumpy from the takeover down the next three to six months. So he gonna be bigger than Big X? I'm coming. He's coming. I'm gonna hold you to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So at the end of the day. I know he better be on boss talk. Okay, what month we in? The end of July? He said three to six months, he talking about running about February. By the end of this year. He talking about running about February. The end of this year. No, no, no, no. By the time Earl Spence, Earl Spence come out with the fight again. Bumpy gonna be bringing about. He gonna be right there. They gonna be the first. You will be like, okay, Ryan said it. Then by the time February, he gonna say, Ryan said it. I'm coming. He gonna bring him out. Nah, he'll not. But I'm coming. He just tell you he gonna be hard. He gonna be ready. I'm coming. So he tell me. So he's gonna go get a album about him. We gonna get a project about him from him? If I get a big deal about him. I ain't no point in dropping no album. You're right, you're right. You gotta have that deal. But I'm letting everybody know I'm coming. I'm coming. I can't wait, man. I can't wait. I know y'all been in there working in that studio. I know y'all been working. How did you and Booster them get so damn close? Three? Mo three? Yeah. You didn't know him before that? Nah, he had none. You didn't? No, man, nobody could tell me. I get out of jail. I'm gonna be around Booster. Really? Hell yeah, that's big. I don't rock with Booster. PMC, my favorite rapper. Man, you better know it. They been arguing me about that Jay-Z. Gutter was in here yesterday with that. About Jay-Z, I'm Jay-Z there. I'm like, dude, Jay-Z cool. But I'm telling you right now, I'm old. Y'all not old as me. And the staff is Booster. It's definitely Booster. But see, when you say that, I got me in trouble with you last time. Nigga Starr said, man, why you say, when they said Jay-Z, why you say Booster? Like, I'm like, me and you was talking about it. Something we was talking about, I don't even want to talk about that because we came back to it. Everybody called. But Webby? Oh, Webby, that thing there, that kind, you've seen him the next week after we spoke over it. I saw this. This nigga crazy. You see that? I seen him laughing. I was like, I'm laughing like, hey, wasn't that nigga right there with? He said that nigga can't rap no more. But he's still cool though. We just talking, man. You know, at the end of the day, I think Webby can rap still. I ain't trippin' on that. I know, man, you crazy. The niggas still know his songs and everything. He just ain't doin' it. To be up with shit, you gotta be a bad mother fucker to put them words together like he put the words together. Oh, he was killin' that savage life one and two. I had the niggas ready to produce it. I was on the way here and I'm listenin' to smokin' on that dojo out and got him back with shit. Ooh, you know it all! Yeah. That nigga rapped, dawg. That nigga rapped, dawg. That nigga rapped, dawg. But that Pimp C was alive, too, during that time, too. Pimp could rap like that. No, Pimp just fly with his words. He's singin', man. His singin' was so cool. It had that same pain feel that you pull out these other guys and that you work with with these other guys when they doin' the same, the things he say is just on another level. So when Bumpy, once this Bumpy thing come out, I can't wait to see it. I know already, once the deal and everything go through, it's goin' down. Yeah, Bumpy or Bad Motherfucker, I'm comin'. Y'all gotta understand, I keep sayin' A-O-L, Key and Block. I don't release their album, but Key, Key and Block is just- These your guys, too? Yeah. I ain't see them, you ain't seein' me no music, you ain't seein' me no pictures, or who is they? I don't know them. Yeah, but they, you just start workin' with them. They about a month ago, two months ago. Okay. They some Bad Motherfucker. Who was the little dude you went on his podcast, man? Cause he came over here one day and I spoke to him, little ol' light skinned guy kinda head and say it. Route 66, you think you're the root son? Who? I been wantin' to shout him out. You went on this show. He's a more close by. Oh, Dre. Yeah, what's his podcast like? What's his podcast like? Yeah, Route to Fame, Route to Fame. Yeah, he came out here one day to meet me and said he look up to the show and all that. He rocked with it. He, that's good, man. Shout out to him, cause I been more than, I didn't know the name. He used to be the valet dude at Motree Apartments. Really? He's the park I caused for us. And we just called Dre, Dre go park our cars and them three died, Dre got his arms through y'all. That's all. Dre hustled up money for his artist to get a feature for Motree. So you and him go way back? Valet, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when he came out of his own pocket, I stopped what I'm doin' go wherever he need me to go. I didn't even know that. When he came here that day, I was just like, what is this day? He pulled up. Bouncing at Exit. Is he? He'll come and say, Ryan, you need me to play some of your artist's music? How far we been? He'll bounce him? Yeah. So he probably know my nigga Miguel. You know the one to be over there. To park the cars. Yeah, Dre gon' be a, he gon' be a big partner in the gang. That's hard, man. I didn't know that. Shout out to him, man. Cause he did come over here one day. We were leavin'. I said, yeah, nigga, you little nigga. You gon' get it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm old, man. I don't try to be an OG. I'm old. Hey, there ain't no tryin'. Go get it. Why you tell him, nigga? I'm like, go get it, little nigga. I don't think I told him in them words. How you do? You shook his hand. What did you tell him? You give him game. I did talk to him. I did say so, yeah. But we never tried to look like an old trickle. I was in the truck. I was just, we were leavin'. He can't help it. Yeah, I can't help that, man. I'm just being me, Ryan. Come on now. How we doin', Ryan? We still in the game and people, I got good news, man. We doin' our thing. We can't talk about it. But we got a lot goin' on. What do you think about the show? Nah, it's doin' pretty good. You one of the main people on here? I fuck with you. You, hey, ever since I been goin', you always pull up, show us love. I ain't gonna lie. I try to come and get as many niggas that even come as possible. They gonna be mad today, they gonna say, Ryan, don't ever get a damn rain game, man. That's funny because you built yourself up in a time where, like I said, I think you was out there just that numb for that first six or seven months after most three pads, you were just out here. Two years. I'm talkin' about the first six or seven months when I seen you, it was like you just on this live, you just jumpin' up doin' anything, talkin' to everybody, fussin' with these niggas, you ain't care. He still be fussin'. But not like you really pissed at that point. Cause I kinda can't hear a different mind frame. I'm glad you got this and that, this and that, this and that, this and that. Oh, you talkin' about on the, on the, on the girl situation? Nah, you think good. But they can't wait to come and see all rain from the wheelchair. Nah, you didn't do nothin'. Nah, I can say it. So now, but I understand how the trick is. So now I got them with their attention. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I said, now I got their attention, so that's how it is. You know how to play mind games. He playin' the mind games. Yeah, yeah, I'll come real time, but I'll sit there and put some more three-labin' up there. You did put that up there. But I put more three-labin'. Just like when B-King, when you say that stuff about B-King and Cummins, you got, oh boy, put off that label. But you crazy, man. Listen, listen, at the end of the day, was I wrong for sayin' it? Niggas don't want motivation. That's your opinion. But niggas don't want motivation now, I see it. Niggas don't want, Dallas, Texas want to, they want to go by the Dallas little set rules. So you think Dallas hold Dallas back? Yeah, they hold it itself back. Nah, I can't. Did you see, who did you see at the BET? You done been a BET awards years in the world. How's the difference since Tyler Perry got it versus when Deborah Lee was up there? My first time is some niggas shit. Oh, you sayin' it? But I don't feel like he had any say so right now in it because remember, he just got it. Bro, when I see that, I go straight to Grammys and Espies, right? Yeah, you been around. And Billboard was right. When you went there, you was like, what the hell? But he's some niggas shit. But you gotta think about it, this is pre-planned. I know, listen, I walk right, I walk right third to the back. To the back. Ain't nobody say nothing. Ain't nobody say nothing. I walk by, I walk by. I gotta get her, I gotta get her. I still helping them push the shit out of them and everything. I said, oh, this is easy. This is easy. I bet the Grammys, when white people sit there and look at you like, okay, who are you? You know what I mean? Them BET awards, you goin' there like you black with a chain on there, you somebody. They don't know who's who cause they got a bunch of niggas walkin' around. Let me ask you this. The fight in December, hypothetically happens. You spending your money, you goin' back up, you goin' to watch that fight again. I'm in the building. And you gonna see what's goin' on. I know who you back now. Chris Breezy was there. Yo, I'm goin' for Crawford. Again. Man, Crawford bad motherfucker. So you don't see Earl being able to even do nothin'. Nah, yo, he gon' do somethin'. He might finish it, but he ain't gon' be able to. He gon' do somethin'. Listen, I know him. Y'all don't understand. He's over there pissed off right now. He ain't finna just fall like that. We from the same area. We ain't finna fall like that. He ain't finna fall. I'm tellin' y'all right now, he not finna fall. He comin' back to fight. And he can fight South Park. But that boy, other boy, a country nigga that ain't got nothin' to lose. He don't care about no material shit. So it's like on Rocky, you gotta leave everything and go back, go to the woods or up a hill and go. EJ gotta go to the woods. Yeah. Start back eatin', getting his food, cookin' it, fishin', cookin' right there on the bank. Yeah, right there, yeah. What if I go and be it next time? You think it's the same place? I know Vegas, but MGM or somethin'. Right there, that place bigger than the MGM. Yeah. And so yeah, EJ gotta go, EJ gotta go from, he gotta start from back from the bottom. Cause that nigga back there, he in the woods. Oh yeah, I know, there ain't nothin' up there. He ain't nothin', he ain't got no distractions. You know what I'm sayin'? He ain't got no distractions, so now, EJ gotta get back to his mind. He gotta think like him. All ready. Man, we love you. You know me, my God man. And hey man, listen man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss is talk. And we out.