 dystopian time we're segwaying into um the joe rogan segment um so the video that he posted to his instagram live it's about a minute and 30 seconds i want to play it from start to finish some of it is irrelevant he talks about like a show being canceled because he got covid but he says something at the end that nearly made my head explode so folks let's listen to joe rogan explain what he did after learning that he got covid hello friends so i got back from the road saturday night feeling very weary i had a headache and i just felt just run down and just to be cautious i separated from my family slept in a different part of the house and throughout the night i got fevers and sweats and i knew what was going on so i got up in the morning got tested and turns out i got covid he does immediately through the kitchen sink out all kinds of meds monoclonal antibodies ivermectin z-pac prednisone everything and i also got an nad drip and a vitamin drip and i did that three days in a row and so here we are on wednesday and i feel great i really only had one bad day sunday sucked but monday was better tuesday felt better than monday and today i feel good i actually feel pretty fucking good uh that's the good news the bad news is we have to move friday the friday show in nashville uh it's going to move to sunday october 24th so that would be the new nashville date my apologies to everyone obviously there's nothing that i can control um it is what it is crazy times we're living in uh but yeah a wonderful heartfelt thank you to modern medicine for pulling me out of this so quickly and easily so that last line there made my head nearly pop off my shoulders um big thank you to modern medicine as on his program he regularly promotes conspiracy theories has anti-vax rhetoric and let me just say real quick here for those of you who haven't already gotten the message ivermectin is not fda approved to treat covet 19 people are getting poisoned because they are trying to get access to ivermectin they're they're purchasing horse paste so just to be overly responsible here i want to take some time to go through this before the panel discusses so um in the event any of joe rogan's fans brigade the video when this is a segment as they usually will hi fellas uh fda has not approved ivermectin for use in treating or preventing a covet 19 in humans okay not something that is acceptable um on top of that for the individuals who call me a big pharma shill for being pro vaccine and supporting modern medicine the individuals promoting ivermectin may not have realized that merc is the manufacturer of ivermectin also big pharma who had to put out this statement saying please do not take ivermectin to treat or prevent covet 19 that is not what it is for if it is prescribed for human beings in a human dose um it's gonna be for a parasite so i i mean in his video talking about covet 19 he says he uses ivermectin he says that he's feeling better he looks horrible a ton of the commenters said it as well i don't understand um why so many people are falling for this and let me just say real quick also um so there's a little bit of the this origin story i know that brett weinstein is another idw individual who's been promote promoting ivermectin among others but there's a group called the front line covet critical care alliance who's also been boosting this and this is a really great report from marissa cabas of huffpost we can't get into it because it's fairly long but i'd encourage you all to check it out because it gives you a little bit of insight into how this got popularized but i don't think it's just this group it's been popularized everywhere uh right before uh joe rogan got covet 19 about a month or so ago he had on a guest who promoted ivermectin so i just want to put that out there and see um you know if the panel wanted to weigh in because the ivermectin situation is it has i mean there's there's anti-mask made me lose faith in humanity the anti-vax stuff made me lose more faith and the ivermectin has me so doom and gloom i don't how did we get here tina you know what really blows my mind about this is that these are the same groups that are saying i won't take a vaccine because it's experimental are you kidding me wait because you think ivermectin isn't not only is it experimental there's like no peer reviewed studies on it whatsoever vaccine science however is quite sound regardless of whether big pharma is corrupt or not and it is i will give you that bot science exists bot big pharma profiteering exists nobody's saying that stuff doesn't exist but that doesn't mean that every scientist that works in biomedical research that works in epidemiology is part and parcel to that they're not it's a sound system it is set up to have checks and balances and we have thousands of studies on why vaccines are safe to use the mRNA technology financed by taxpayer dollars the phizer vaccine financed by german government taxpayer dollars so this isn't only solely about big pharma and you're right murk murk is who makes ivermectin they are also big pharma so none of this makes any sense to me i just don't know where we got to such a stupid place and i've had also had people yelling me over this but i'm just like are you kidding me right now guys well get vaccinated let me say one thing about that because i loved it when i found that statement from murk and that was the exact argument i used in my tweet look if it's big pharma why is murk putting this out and someone did answer me and i have to say i haven't independently verified this but they said that murk that ivermectin is off patent now so murk isn't making money from it but okay but they're always going to have some ridiculous thing let me finish the point so but murk is actually working on an ivermectin for covid and they are doing studies on ivermectin for covid great fair do that my favorite my favorite meme was uh people that called you sheep for uh wearing masks and doing vaccines are literally taking sheep medicine i saw that i saw yeah i i saw that and that that was a really great meme okay so josey the the subtext here of this joe rogan story is that he praises modern medicine has railed against vaccines multiple times he took everything like he basically said you know he did the whole kits and sink but he is presumably not vaccinated unless i'm i'm incorrect here um he discouraged young people from getting vaccinated he's he's healthy he says if you maintain good health you don't need the vaccine i would tell somebody who's young to not get vaccinated do you think and this is kind of difficult because we're we're psychoanalyzing joe rogan here josey do you think a lot of change of heart and finally stop promoting misinformation when it comes to covid 19 what are your thoughts because i'm not too optimistic yeah well i'm not too optimistic either and and he already thinks he's he's cured like what three days later like everybody knows that the symptoms hit you like pretty hard so we still got a few days to the wait to see where that his body is going to protect him and really joe rogan is a product of what has been happening and i and i did this on my uh my personal media talking about so i'm a vegan i i'm pretty pretty public and open about that in fact i think i've even talked to you about it before right but there has been a weird connection between like the holistic community the yoga community a lot of the vegan community have been co-opted into this like i'm tough i'm healthy you know zen is my medicine type stuff right and it's a lot of woo woo stuff and and what what's happened is the the um the joe rogan brand has kind of developed around this naturalistic holistic type of situation so for him like and and this is this is something that i think about you know being a streamer myself talking to other streamers and other personalities is your brand and what you represent to your audience is everything you can you can completely prove a personality completely wrong like dot dot dot this is the answer two plus two equals four on their stream and everything they'll be like well i don't know i don't it doesn't matter and then they'll completely just avoid it and not talk about it anymore and because it protects their brand so if if joe rogan changes his tune he's going to lose money he's going to lose people and and and and it's very clear here's the data point look at donald trump talking about suggesting covid vaccines and he's even being approved by it i was going to mention that he was in alabama and that was it i read that in an article that said yeah his movement is gone to the right of him he can't even control his movement anymore exactly so so there are direct evidence that proves that devout zealot system i guess i guess to be a zealot to be one of those sheep that lauren was talking about you have to just follow that line of thinking no matter what it's going to be politicized and if joe rogan or any other leaders turn on that then they are then cut by the thousand needles of the the movement going around so so when it comes to joe rogan are himself like honestly i don't want to be mean but like you can you can it'll probably take like to like like ventilation status of like him thinking that he may lose his life before that tune gets changed um and that's scary and i don't want it to go to that point i just want people to just see the science and do it but i think really mortality is one of those things that make humans think straight and i don't know if it if he doesn't reach that point it's going to get worse