 Welcome to Mackie Gab episode 925 for Monday, April 25, 2022. Hey, folks, and welcome to Mackie Gab, the show where you send in your tips, your questions, your cool stuff found. We mash all of that together, answering your questions when we can, sharing your tips, sharing your cool stuff found, sharing our cool stuff found, sharing our tips, with the goal being that each and every one of us learns at least five new things. Every single time we get together, sponsors for this episode include wealthfront.com.mgg where you can go to get your first $5,000 managed for free for life. Loominskin.com.mgg to get a free trial of Loomins products. Gonna make you look great and feel great. And New Relic.com.mgg where you get 100 gigs of data free forever with this amazing service for server admins and software engineers. We'll talk more in depth about each and every one of those in a little bit here later in the show. For now, here in Durham, New Hampshire, as usual, I'm Dave Hamilton. And here in Fairfield, Connecticut, this is John F. Braun. And back to you. Hey, I'm just totally going to introduce myself. And from Boulder, Colorado, I'm Jeff Gammett. Well, thank you for joining us, Jeff Gammett. I believe I think you had some cameos on the show during maybe a live event or two at a conference over the years. I think. Yes. I had to think about it because, you know, long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. But yes, I have made an occasional cameo. This is your first time joining us for the whole show. So we are, we are writing a lot of wrongs in in recent history here, a recent past here at Mackie Kebben. This is one of them having you on the show. And I've got to be perfectly honest. We have John F. Braun to thank for this. We knew Pilot Pete wasn't going to be here this week. And I asked John, I said, I have this list that, you know, that we've been building of people that would be good to have on the show. And John was like, what about gamut? I was like, oh, man, I wish I could, I should be able to take credit for thinking of you to have you on the show, but I cannot. So thank you, John. Well, I mean, either one of you could have asked and I would have said yes. But the fact that John, you're the person that said, hey, Jeff should be on. That makes it even more special. It is special. That's great. It's just weird that we never did this when, when, you know, we work together at the Mac Observer and all of that good stuff. It's just, I don't know. We all had our stuff to do. So how's your state doing there, Jeff? Have you guys finished burning the place down? No, no, we're still working on it. We're actually at the point right now where, and I realized this, I think yesterday. The current fire season, we've already had so many fires around an in Boulder that I've lost track of all the fires. Man. So yeah, hopefully you can remain safe throughout it. I hope so. I gotta say, I'm happy to live in the Northeast. I mean, the worst we get are maybe a blizzard and maybe flooding. But we get hurricanes through here, which have been pretty traumatic at times. The people in Vermont might feel very differently about the most recent devastating hurricane that blew through there. So, but yeah, you're right. They are the significant events of nature are less frequent here in New England. And I just need to take a minute and knock on some wood because because, you know, I'm very superstitious. And I can't believe we're having this conversation. Speaking of conversation, I know I mentioned it last week. MacGeekUp.com slash Discord is live. We have, I don't know, 150 people now in the Discord room and it's growing like crazy. We were talking pre-show. I am sorry that it took us this long to open that door. And I am so glad we have opened that door. It's amazing that there's really some great general conversation, some fantastic Q&A. It's not just, you know, A's from John and me. It is answers. Everybody's helping everybody. It's exactly what I always hoped we could have as a MacGeekUp community. And it's like it has already come to fruition. So if you aren't already there, MacGeekUp.com slash Discord, please come join us and help shape what the community is. Like it's very much ours. And that includes, in fact, more so yours than, you know, me or John. We are each only one voice. You're merely vessels. Well, I think of us as stewards, Jeff. Stewards, I like that. You know? Yeah. I mean, it really is kind of how I think of us, not just in Discord, but for the show too. It's like your questions, your cool stuff found, you know, and it's about you folks learning. Speaking of let's go and talk about some cool stuff found. I have been a huge fan of MagSafe since I decided to become a huge fan of MagSafe, which is to say it took me a year. My wife's car does not have carplay. And so she has her iPhone mounted up on the dash. And I noticed the other day, I was like, wait a minute, like you aren't taking advantage of MagSafe with the dash. And and but now she is. And I need to put a better link in the show notes because I realized the link that I have there. It's Skoshe's got their magic mount dash. It's a it's they've got a whole line of these things. She's using one that's a suction cup and it's fantastic because it plugs into the to either a USB port or the cigarette lighter, I guess. And you know, whatever we call that, the power port. Now we don't call it a cigarette lighter. I don't know. I call it a cigarette lighter. And you're old. Yeah, I am. I'm I'm I'm wise, Jeff. I've been wise. That's because you're wise. Years of seasoned seasoned. That's it. Yeah. A little bit of pepper. That's what I put on my head every day. Just a little bit of pepper. But the MagSafe, what a perfect use case for MagSafe. You know, I thought the wallet was the best use of MagSafe because it allows me to have my wallet and phone together when I want to carry my wallet and to not have a wallet or any. You know, it's one thing whether or not I have my wallet with me. It's fantastic. I love it. This might be an even better use case for MagSafe. You know, because she just gets in the car and she throws the her phone up on the thing and she doesn't have to worry about a, you know, a pressure mount or anything. It holds. It's been fantastic. And of course it charges her phone, but even more so just the fact that she can put it in there and it holds and stays while she drives. She is always hesitant when I impose new technology upon her and she was understandably hesitant this time around, too. It doesn't always work out well, you know, as everybody listening knows that some of these things don't work the way they're supposed to. This one works the way it's supposed to. It's really, really fantastic. And she even said like two days later, she's like, oh, yeah, by the way, like you can't take this out of my car. This is outstanding. So we will put a correct link in the show notes. I promise to this, but it's, it's fantastic. So yeah, good stuff. Folks at Scotch, Scotchie. I think it's Scotch, but I'm not sure. No, I think you're right. I think it's Scotch. You think we know having hung out with these people at so many conferences over the years. Yeah. Yeah. I and we they even sponsored the show for a period of time. They aren't currently a sponsor. And I remember in the talking points, it was like the phonetics spelling was listed there so that we wouldn't screw it up. I think it was Scotch, but I can't say for sure. Jeff, you've got a cool stuff found for you. You've got several. You want to list, you want to go through your first one there? Sure. All right. So it's no secret, I think that I'm really into my computer keyboards and which I mean stands to reason typing so much. Sure. I went on the hunt over this last year for a keyboard, a mechanical keyboard wired that was also backlit and gave me the flexibility of swapping out the key switches. At some point if I wanted to, you can spend a ton of money, but I found at Keychron the C2 wired mechanical and it's a fantastic keyboard. And don't let the price surprise you or put you off, you know, thinking this is a crappy keyboard backlit. It's 59 bucks. And not backlit. It's like $45. And I wanted that mechanical keyboard. Yeah. And I ordered mine and you get to pick the switches and you can get them hot swappable. And for those of you that don't know what that means, it means you can replace switches if they wear out. So your keyboard doesn't actually ever end up in the trash. It just, you just replace components as necessary. And I'm all about wired keyboard. So I don't have to deal with the batteries. Yeah. If you don't need it to be wireless, having it wired is better. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. So I bought one of these, Leap of Faith and got it with the blue switches because typing for writing and backlit. And it's like everything that I needed. And I feel like I have a keyboard that is worth a lot more than the $59 I spend on it. Amazing. Amazing. Oh, man, that's awesome. Thank you for sharing that. And I figured we should do that one early in the show in case people hear you typing. Now they'll know what that keyboard sounds like. Yeah. Well, here's my tip. Keep a wireless keyboard that's quiet for when you're doing shows. Yes. Again, as we were saying all through the pre-show, not your first rodeo with the whole podcast. Not my first rodeo. But I can't type on it if you want to hear loud. No, no, no. We're good. We appreciate you taking care to not use a mechanical keyboard while doing the show. It's outstanding. I stumbled on something recently. We've talked a lot about Mac OS Monterey and or Mac OS in general, sorry. And it's read only support for the NTFS file system. And that's been there for a long time. And if you wanted to be able to write, you'd had to go get something like from Paragon or one of these various other companies. It turns out that in Monterey, there is an optional experimental, let's call it, support for writing to NTFS volumes. And you can you go into disc utility, you unmount it. And then there is a terminal command that you issue to load a special NTFS kext. And boom, there you go. So if you have to write to an NTFS, I know, right? And they even say in this article that I found, which of course is linked in the show notes, they even say that, listen, you know, this is experimental in our tests, it has worked fine for moderate usage. If you're going to do anything heavy duty, either go get, you know, a well tested, you know, method like a pair like the Paragon or whatever. Or as I am going to guess, Brian Monroe in our chat room is commenting that it's much better to just format the drive as like APFS or X FAT or something that's that's more, more widely supported, more, more non experimentally supported inside Mac OS for writing. But but if you've got a right to to this and you need to do it in a pinch. This will this will make it happen. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, new technology. Oh, man, I remember Windows NT was kind of a groundbreaking product that came out, which was decades ago. Yeah. Well, it was interesting, right? Because we Mac. Oh, Mac OS 10 was already out by the time and Windows NT came out. But what fascinated me at that point in time was, you know, if we rewind to before personal computers were a thing, we had two competing platforms for mainframes, right? We had VMS and Unix and various flavors of Unix and all of that stuff. And then when we had personal computers, while those operating systems were far too resource hungry to proper and and and just the wrong thing to be used by, you know, people who are going to have a personal computer. So new operating systems were conceived from scratch, right? You know, there was DOS and for both Apple to and for IBM PC and they were different DOSes, but they were both called DOS, this operating system. And then there was Pro DOS. And then, of course, we had, you know, system six, system seven, system eight, system nine, et cetera, on the Mac. And then we got back. Oh, GSOS. I knew it. Dang it. I knew it was going to miss. Don't. Don't forget CPM. Come on. Oh, there was CPM. That was only like an alternative OS on on personal computers. Right. But you could get the CPM card. You're right for the app. Can I derail you for one second? As if we weren't already derailed. Okay. So the whole OS thing, when I was ready to replace my Franklin Ace 1000, the, the, the Apple to GS was out and the Mac was out and I seriously was torn. What do I get? Do I get this, the brand new thing, the Mac? Yeah. Or do I get the, or do I get the two GS and ultimately I got the two GS because it had a better processor. Yeah. It was backwards compatible and I had all those expansion slots. So I ended up with the, and I, and I had a CPM card in my Franklin. So I took the CPM card out, put it in a Franklin or put it in the two GS. And so I had a two GS that ran eight bit and 16 bit software, Apple to native GS native and CPM all in the same machine. And it blew people's minds. That's pretty cool. And right. So the, the, the Apple to GS was a piece of technology after which I lusted and, and came up with all kinds of schemes to have in my home, none of which ever worked out. I, to this day, I have not owned a two GS and, and, Oh my God. Had I known, please don't send me one. When I got rid of mine, I would have just given it to you. Please don't. My wife, like, again, Oh, that you're welcome. technology. Yeah. No, no, no. Lisa, thanks you. Yeah. No, this is good. I don't need one. I can emulate one. You know, and I have like, you know, I've run my old bulletin board system, you know, and it threw an emulator on my mouth. Which is cool. Yeah. Yeah. I toyed with the idea of putting it online because there was a way of mapping a, a telnetable port to a, you know, a effectively a serial port on in the emulators so that people could telnet in over the internet and actually interact with my bulletin board. But I, I never, never told anyone how to get there. So, and I'm not going through today because it's not up and running. I did have a point that I was going to make earlier before we the first tangent that was before the tangent of the tangent. But the point I was going to make was we got, we finally got to the point where Mac OS came out and that was based on Unix and then Windows NT came out and that was based on VMS. And so here we were, you know, 25 years later at that point in time with the two competing platforms, Mac and Windows having the same operating systems at their core that were the two competing platforms 25 years prior. It was like, this isn't, but it was an interesting point. I mean, it was ironic, right? But it, it was more than ironic. It was fascinating that here we were decades later and where we finally got to once processors got fast enough and we had enough, you know, resources in general on computer, on personal computers that we could just run the stupid OSes that we had in the first place. It's just, you know, it's like, this is, this is not an accident. Like these, these things really are, and we're still running Unix today, right? Like, I mean, right now, all three of us are and, and in many places, right? Our, our, our Macs, our phones, our watches, our Apple TVs and, and all the embedded things, your router definitely runs, runs some, you know, embedded version of Unix, right? Like most things are running Unix today, which is just fascinating to me. I don't know. I love it. So, and Eric, Eric DSA in the chat room corrects me says that he thinks NT came out before Mac OS. You, I will, I'll go with that. That makes sense. Okay. But at some point we got to where VMS and Unix were competing again. I had my order wrong, but yeah. Right. And then you had Next Step, which was loosely based on, I think OpenBSD, right? Well, that's where Mac OS came from. You're right. Yeah, that was the, that was the underpinnings or the, the origin, I should say of, of the reason Mac OS runs Unix is because you're right. Yeah. Next Step was, was the reason for that and then Apple acquired that and Next CEO, which worked out really well for them on both counts. I think it seems to have. Yeah, it seems to. Yeah. Happy 10th birthday last week to Reed College's Scriptorium, which is the evolution of their calligraphy department, which always, which has a place in, in Apple and Steve Jobs history. So, you know, interesting stuff. My son goes to Reed currently, if they, if they can maintain, if they can find professors in a group, man, like their CS department has just like fallen apart. There are currently no classes for a rising junior to take in CS in the fall. That's a problem. It's, it's like the one problem. I'm a big fan of, of college being like a halfway house for kids because it, you know, you gain some independence, you still learn to solve your own problems, but you're still, you know, sheltered, you know, in age appropriate ways. That's like the one problem that it should be up to the school to solve. I think, but you know, it's just my opinion. Anyway, they're working on it. Yeah. Let's move on to Jed, shall we? We'll let, we'll, we say that we have cool stuff found from our listeners and I'm about to prove it. Jed says, I have a large number of files, mostly quicktime and photos that I need to basically input into a spreadsheet with a few details. The most important detail is, is where it was downloaded from. So it's easy to make a list of files into text edit by simply selecting all of the files in the finder, copying and then opening text edit and choosing paste and match style. And then I found this app called file list export that does even more and gives lots of geeky details. We'll put a link to file list export in the show notes. He does say that the only thing it doesn't give is where it's from, which he says he can see in the preview or thumbnail tab of the finder, but this particular app file list export doesn't grab it. But he, so he's, he's still looking for that. If you know of a way to get that data, feedback at macgeekab.com. Did I hear you right, Dave? Did you say feedback at macgeekab.com? Help me out, Joe. Wait, wait. I've got my pen so I can start writing. What is that? Feed back at macgeekab.com? Dot com. That's correct. Yeah. I've got my note now. Thank you, Jen. Good stuff. File list export. I like it. Jeff, you have, we were talking pre-show about how good you look for those of you watching on the video. Jeff's got a very well and subdued backlighting to, well lit and subdued backlighting to his room or to his environment. And we were talking about how you got there and you started telling me some things. Right. This cool stuff found is for you, Dave. Okay. All right. So the buildup is I set a couple colored hue lights on the floor in can so they, so they aim up so I could get some light on the back wall. And for those of you that are watching the video, you can see over my shoulders. There's kind of a glow coming up. I just thought that was coming from you, Jeff. Well, okay. So you found me out. The glow comes from me. Yes. And it was, but that, it's great, but it didn't fill the whole wall the way I wanted. So I added in an Eve light strip and, and it's on the ceiling and, and actually the way I attached it, I got the 3M plastic clips that have the adhesive. You can just pop off command strips. You mean? Yes. Yes. So it's on the ceiling facing down and the Eve light strip, it's so easy to set up. One of the reasons I got it was because home kit and, and it, it just set up beautifully. It has thread support as I recall. And it does what you expect 16 million colors. And, and you have easy control over it. And it has its app. It works with, with any other home kit compatible app. And it's bright. And it, it's just really nice. It does what you need. That's outstanding. Yeah. I need to, I need to glow like you have. Could you explain to us. So you mentioned thread. Our listeners may not know what that is. Could you encapsulate what, what the heck thread is. I've heard of it. I don't think I'm using it. I don't think anybody devices use it yet, but. So your devices might be using it and you just don't realize it because it can do it on its own. Okay. So thread is this communication protocol. And that's, that's a cross platform. It's in a lot of devices like the home pod mini. It has a thread. Okay. And it creates sort of like a, a Bluetooth ish mesh network for devices so they can speak to each other. And, and since it creates this mesh thing, you don't have to be close to a Bluetooth bridge for it to work. You just need to have your devices all close enough together. So they can talk to each other. And, and it gives you a faster response time than, than just a regular home kit command through the S lady. So if you have devices that support thread. And you, you give them an S lady command to do something. It's almost instant. And it makes you feel like your devices that don't have thread support are, are not working. Because now that second that you waited, that was nothing becomes an eternity. That makes sense. Yeah. Because it's happening locally. It's not going to the cloud and back to, to, to make the, the event happen, whatever that, that event is. Right. Yeah. And devices that, that have been coming out like the last what year? Yeah. That a lot of those have thread support older smart home devices probably don't. But a lot of the wifi routers can be updated through software to support thread. So like, like Eero, most of their base stations. Have received a software update. That adds the, or enables the threat support. Is thread a part of matter or as matter is matter different? And I, I, at one point in time, I knew this answer. And of course, if I knew we were going to have this conversation, I would have researched so that I could share that answer, but instead I will ask the question. Um, I believe that, that thread gets incorporated with matter. But they're like different things. So it's like, like matter becomes the common, uh, language. Whereas thread is like a common, um, uh, data exchange protocol. Gotcha. Okay. That's I, okay. I thought there was some in like, way that they layered on top of each other. And that, that makes sense. Okay. Cool. Well, again, if anyone has more to share on that, let us know. If you're back at MackieCubb.com. Uh, in, or you can go live chat. Um, Kiwi Graham says thread is hardware matter or software. That's a, that's a much more succinct way to say it. Yeah. It's exactly what you said. It's shorter. There you go. All right. So there's another cool stuff found that makes you look good as well. Jeff. And I'm curious to hear about that too. Okay. This one is my plexi cam. And I picked this up. It's, it's a mount for your, for your webcam. Okay. I picked this up because previously my webcam set on top of my display. Yep. So I would do that thing where you're looking up all the time at your camera. Yep. And what I wanted was something where I can look straight forward, which looks and feels more natural. Totally. But the problem is, if I do that, now I have a camera that, that is not able to be where it needs to be because I can't like tape it to my display. Right. Right. And so plexi cam, it's this clear acrylic, but basically like a big flat hook that hangs off the top of your display and has a mount on it that you can move up and down and your camera sits on that. Yeah. And, and it works great. And my concern when I got this was that it was going to be difficult to see through. Yeah. That would, cause I, as people listening know, I have recently been going through trying to figure out like what the right solution for a webcam is. And the secret is all webcams suck and you're better off using an iPhone and re incubates camo to get a decent picture. But then it's like, okay, how do you mount the iPhone? And, and I know Dave Ginsburg from in touch with iOS was saying he uses a, that set up with plexi cam and it works great. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. One of these days I'm going to pick up an old iPhone to use with camo. Yeah. And then the Logitech C920 I'm using right now that we'll get put off to the side. Yeah. Exactly. You can see right through this, this mount. That's okay. Like, So it's better than I think. Yeah. I'm doing that right now. So, so what I'm seeing as I look straight ahead, I'm looking at my display. Sure. And through, through the mount, what I'm seeing is are all of the, the chapter headings. Sure. Or the, the show notes. And, and I can read them and, and the letters are broken up by the edge of the, of the mount, but it doesn't matter. Right. I can still read everything just fine. Amazing. And, and John part of your face is, is behind the mount. And, oh, and now you're gone. Oh, and now you're back. Yeah. When you, when you leaned off to your left, you actually went behind the window for the show notes. Interesting. But I can see you clearly, John. This is great. Okay. Yeah. All right. And Dave, I got mine with the, with the phone mount as well. Yeah. So that when the day comes that, that I grab an old iPhone, I'm set. I don't have to go and buy the mount for that separately. A pro tip is the folks that reincubate say to find the latest gen iPhone SE. That's got all the camera smarts portrait mode, which makes a huge difference. I'm not using that today. I'm using an old 10 iPhone 10 camera, which doesn't have any of that. But, but yeah, they, you know, you can, I mean, you can buy them new for 400 bucks, which is not much more than, you know, the quote unquote top of the line webcam. And, and you can find them used. In fact, they advise looking for one with a crack screen. Right. Because you don't need the screen to be fully functional. Don't care. You just need that camera to work. That's it. That's it. You do need the screen to work. Well enough to launch the app. And that's it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Cool stuff. That's why we do this. The next thing I have, I've actually had sitting here on my desk for a long time. In my recent travels, I have realized that, especially now that I have a USB C based iPad, because I moved to the new six gen mini. I need more USB C charging ports than my travel charger has. But it's like, I don't really care whether I'm using USB C or USB A to charge my iPad. Like it's going to charge overnight either way. Right. And I really like all of the chargers that I have in my bag. They, you know, it's I find it important to have chargers that are not wall bricks. I want something with a cord in case I have to like snake it around somewhere and position it the way I want and all that stuff. And so for about 10 bucks, I bought a four pack of USB A to USB C adapters and throw these in my travel kit. And now I can just take those USB A ports, make them USB C ports on my chargers. And I'm good to go. What it won't do is charge my laptop. So I want to make that clear to everyone. You still need power delivery, which is only going to happen with the USB C port to charge, you know, the current crop of Mac laptops. But for everything else, man, it's just great to have the flexibility and just do what I want. And for those of you watching the video, you can see the little thing in my hand, but it's it's really just it looks like, I mean, it's just something that plugs into the USB A port and turns it into a USB C port. So yeah, I have a couple of those. It's probably a different brand. Sure. Yeah, I have no idea. I'm sure the brand changes on the ones that I bought too, because they're just, you know, super generic. It's whatever company silkscreen their logo on that batch. Correct. Correct. Yeah, those things are great. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a good thing to have. And I say I paid 10 bucks for them. I don't actually remember whether I paid 10 bucks or eight bucks, but today on Amazon, they're eight bucks. So the links in the show notes. Enjoy Jeff, you got another. We're going, we promised cool stuff found today. So John, are you going to say something about those adapters? Did you have something else to add before I move on onto the next thing? The only thing I was going to mention is Apple has not solved my connectivity problem with my iPad. Right. Well, explain that to people's because they kind of gave up. Okay. So here's the deal. The press release for the iPad Air fourth generation said, Hey, by the way, this now has five gigabits per second connectivity. Right. So the problem that I had is when I plug it into my MacBook Pro, it says, Hey, 480 megabits per second. And I'm like, that's not right. Uh, they weren't able to figure it out. Well, you what, and what we learned is that this is consistent with everyone's experience. It's like, it's the cable. No, no, no. No, no, no. I got, I got. Oh, you got another. I got the best cable ever, which has a super duper cable that advertises I think 40 megabits per second. So no, it wasn't the cable, though they suspected that in my support thing. They're like, Oh, well, the cable that it comes with is terrible. And then it just charges. It doesn't. Um, the, the, or the cable that the MacBook Pro comes with. And I think the iPad comes with will charge at a high rate, but its throughput is 40 megabits. So that's what they thought was the issue. But no, I got very good cables. And if I plug in, for example, my external SSD, it'll say, Oh yeah, here, 10 gigabits. Yeah. Okay. This is, this is not, this is as designed, right? Is it's not going to be a problem that Apple solves in, in your device. They may solve it in a future device. If they see a reason to, but yes, when, when USB C based iPads are connected to a Mac, they negotiate 480 mega USB to is what they negotiate. So 480 megabits per second, when they are connected to an external SSD, they negotiate whatever their full speed is yours is 10 gigabits per second with the iPad air. My iPad mini is five gigabits per second, but it does all of that and speed tests will, you know, will, or transfer speed tests will confirm that. Unfortunately, there's no black magic disk speed test for the iPad. So you have to do it old school with a stopwatch and the, the, the knowledge of the file size. That's, that's how I've done it. Yeah. But yeah, when John started having these issues, we, we, you know, we started doing some testing back and forth and it was like, yeah, I'm seeing the exact same thing on my Mac. So this is not, this is not a problem that you're going to find a solution to. But, but yes, the connecting to an external hard drive has no problem and lots of folks on Twitter sort of confirm the same thing. So yeah, it's just, and I don't, I haven't heard from anyone that has connected it to a Windows machine, but my guess is they will see the same thing that we see when it's connected to a Mac. So the way I would, I can't say that this is how it was engineered because I didn't engineer it, but the way I would describe it is that when it is, when the iPad is the host, it is USB 3.1 Gen 2. When the iPad is the client, it is USB 2. Fascinating. That is the net outcome, whether it was in, you know, why it is that way, I can't say, but that, that is the, that is the net outcome. So yeah. Fascinating. Yeah. Fascinating. Yeah. The proposed solution that I'm exploring is I got a USB-C to Ethernet adapter, and when I plug that in, it reports five gigabits per second. Sure. Yeah. Well, because the iPad is the host. And that makes perfect sense. Yeah. Yeah. Because the iPad is the host of that Ethernet adapter, and so you're good to go. Yeah. Yeah. It's fascinating. Good thing. Brian Monroe in the chat room is speculating that it might be a macOS limitation, and it might be. Like we need to test with a Windows machine or a Mac with a, you know, running, you know, some other operating system or something. I mean, yeah, it doesn't really matter. Yeah. And as Brian said here, and this is what I do, the thing is the wireless speed on the machine is fine. So. Right. Right. That's the way to do it. Faster. Yes. Yeah. All right. You got another one for us, Jeff? Sure. And, you know, any time you want to have a ton of cool things, you just let me know and I can load up a show for you. You have loaded up a show for us. We have not done a full cool stuff found show in a long time, and it is entirely possible that we are in the middle of one right now. So we will, we will, we have lots more cool stuff found, including a bunch from you folks in response to our remote access discussion last week. So we will include those a little bit later in the episode, and we've got even more things from other lists to talk about as well. So we'll do, you've got one more for us, Jeff, and then we'll talk about our sponsors and then we'll get into some of that remote access stuff and see where it takes us from there. OK. What's your next one, Jeff? OK. I'll give you the setup because apparently that's my thing today, giving you a setup. My, my thing is get as much off my desk as I can, but it still has to be on my desk, which sounds like it's kind of contradictory, but it turns out it's not. What I mean is all the stuff that would otherwise just be sitting on the surface of my desk, find a way to mount it so that it's off the sides. OK. And, and so like my studio lights, that's how they are. They're clamped to the sides of the desk, so they're up above. And, and my iPad that's sitting off to the side right now that I'm using as an extra display so I can look at the whole Discord chat, it's in the 12 cell hoverbar duo stand. And they call it the duo because it's a nice, really nice weighted base so you can just set it on something and it even has like a little tray for your Apple pencil. I took that off and I put the clamp on and it's clamped to the side of my desk. So I actually have my iPad above the my closed lid MacBook Pro and and the arm kind of comes up from behind the computer and then it has the display sitting out up above the computer and so I now have this iPad here on my desk but not on my desk and and it'll hold any size iPad. Amazing. And it keeps the display, the iPad up so it's in line with the with the bottom end of my big display. So I'm not looking like to a weird different place like having to look way down or way up or something. I just look off to the side and then here's right where you want it to be my iPad right where I want it and so that also puts it at a height where if I need to do something on screen with touch I can still do that and it's it's like the perfect setup for having an iPad off to the side. And I know you moved from the base to the clamp was the base weighted properly such that it would hold, I mean assuming the answer is yes but the base would hold this if you chose not to clamp it or couldn't clamp it for some reason. Oh absolutely. Yeah, okay. That's huge because there are some desks and just some workspaces where affixing a clamp to it is impossible for one reason or another. It sounds like 12 South, not surprisingly has solved this problem. Amazing. I love it. 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little work on on your part but then fortunately we had and handed back to you Dave but we had several people recommend other options some that are free and some that are not some yeah some that are not they the first free one that I that I put in here was recommended by many people including this remark whose email I'm going to read here I wanted to reply and suggest a free solution to up to five of your Macs you've got to look really hard but real VNC offers a non-commercial account that allows you to remote into five computers no charge there's no support associated with it but those of us that are remoting in are probably sophisticated enough to handle it says there's no need for a VPN as the connection is already encrypted you can also secure your computer the regular user login is another layer of security with a password and all that stuff the remote connection will present you to the user login screen another bonus we also it will also work with Windows, Linux, Raspberry Pi, Android, Solaris HPUX and AIX as servers there are clients for each of those operating systems technically you can use your iPad to log into your home mac when on the road or your iPad to run a Windows machine etc and we put a link in the show notes for this real VNC's home subscription and it really is what you know what we were describing really it's what I was describing last week with screens where it's sort of an all in one solution you run this on your mac it deals with poking the holes in your firewall and getting the connection from the outside world in but it's free and of course they say it's not suitable for business use only personal and hobby use all of that stuff but yeah I mean as far as simple goes one stop shop that's what I would do so thank you for that can I pile on to that one a little bit yeah we're gonna keep piling on but you go yes please so the whole real VNC thing I love it because it does take care of the whole thing about what do I do because I don't know I don't have a static IP and how do I get through the firewall but you know all that stuff but since you can also use this with say a Raspberry Pi like you mentioned I set up a Raspberry Pi as a Plex server and it's headless it's sitting off to the side on a shelf actually it's sitting on top of my Synology right now and I do have an answer to your question as to why you didn't use your Synology as your Plex server but but we'll get to that and since my Pi is headless I use a real VNC on my iPad Pro to to connect into my Raspberry Pi and I do everything that I need to from that unless it's just straight up SSH that I want to do then I use prompt so I do everything to control and manage my Raspberry Pi from an iPad not from my Mac I love it nice okay do we want to go down the Plex path now or do you want to wait no I want to wait because there's a place in what I think is the agenda where that will fit I kind of figured but I just wanted to make sure yeah no I appreciate that speaking of Synology we have a listener we're going to get to the Synology stuff later hold all of that because we have a Synology thing to talk about this is called foreshadowing people it is foreshadowing exactly alright so that was Real VNC with their home subscription the next thing up comes from listener John who suggested RemotePC it works really well the only issue I have run into is that you need to be in front of the computer after a software update since this doesn't run until the install questions are answered okay fascinating alright so that's another one this is great I like this we're almost to the one that like blew me away but again foreshadowing we're not there quite yet Roman wrote in and shared Splashtop desktop and I know I'm going to find his thing here oh maybe he didn't know I don't have a thing he just oh this was either on Twitter maybe even in our discord room in fact I think it came from discord room so it's Splashtop desktop is what he's been using for remote access and support I don't believe there is a free version there's a $5 a month version where you can access up to two computers but he says he's been using that for a long time and works well and also sort of fits in with the you are using this for business and you're paying and so therefore you're you're not going to get blocked out team viewer I don't know if you guys have experienced this with team viewer over the years where it decides that you are using it in a commercial capacity and then that's the end of that you can't use it anymore which I yeah it's like could you like can we have a trial here like who's the judge wait I already know who the judges it's it's it's there's two of us here and it's not me so there you go yep so Splashtop desktop that's fairly affordable and then Jonathan's email came in and this for me might be the life-changing thing he suggested he said you can use tail scale which is a mesh based VPN based on wire guard and they have a free plan to connect to your computer directly and then use VNC from there so this is a fascinating thing tail scale it is available for free one user for free and what you do is you run the tail scale software on any devices that you want to connect to and also connect from and once you run it it meshes all of those devices together into their own virtual subnet and it doesn't matter where your device is as long as you're on the internet they are all always part of this virtual subnet no matter what there's a Synology client for it there's obviously a Mac OS client an iOS client I you know iPad OS Windows you know all of the above and so by having tail scale running on my Mac I can go and run the tail scale app on my iPad let's say or on my Mac laptop while I'm not home launch tail scale and it connects as a VPN and then boom that's it it's as though I'm on the local network with that so I can connect to that Mac's virtual IP address as a VNC server if I want to and connect but it completely deals with the port forwarding and all of that stuff and it is device specific so I'm I don't have to worry about does my router support a VPN where am I going to install a VPN client yada yada yada all this it's just boom you run tail scale and you're good to go and then of course you could I could like you know share the screen of my Mac remotely and then do other things on my network or I can set up tail scale on any one of those machines were multiples to be an end point which means now it's like a real VPN where I can tunnel from remote into my home network and then out as though I am at home which is super helpful if you want to do some secure stuff or if you want to watch content that's only available in your home region all of that stuff they can't know that you're on a VPN because you're connecting to your home they just not how that works so holy forking shirt balls right this is awesome how did I not know about this before now same same I right so it is a little bit geeky but it completely deals with like the headache part of the geeky stuff you just install this and you're done yeah I know God I know it's pretty cool you know it was worth showing up just for this yeah everything else is just a bonus you know there's a lot of cool stuff found that we talk about on this show of course and and I get excited about it because it like tech does excite me it is not all that it usually takes two or three you know mentions and they don't all happen in the show but you know the email or I see somebody on Twitter you know for me to say okay I need to find a way to integrate this into my computing life right with this one one email that was it yeah yes you were not even halfway through your description and I and I've already plotted out how this is going to be used right yeah it's fantastic it it's like it's magic it's magic it's magic yeah yeah one last thing is Brian Monroe in the helping us edit the show notes today popped in a link to Google's remote desktop which is only usable on Chrome so I'm sharing my Safari window for those of you watching the video so I'm not going to show it to you but but Google's Chrome remote desktop is another way of being able to remote into your your machines as well so we'll put that link in the show notes too thank you Brian that's great stuff yeah yeah yeah alright any more on the remote desktop thing or is it we've been dancing around Synology and we are only going to dance around it I will warn you because because we have a deep dive on Synology coming up so we've John you mentioned that we had a question about somebody's distation this week that's in the queue for that we actually probably have about 10 different things prior to that that we're in the queue but it's heating up the Synology chatter is heating up again I think we got like five questions this week just about distations and so we will be doing a deep dive on that in the next let's say the next four to six weeks let me give give us some time that we have some ideas here but but it's coming so keep your questions coming keep your tips coming well the only thing I want to toss in here which it's really quick go you're gonna do it anyway offer something Synology offer something called quick connect that's another solution for remote access in that you can access your Synology using their quick correct technology that's fair yeah that's right and you can quick connect directly into the web management interface of your Synology that's no that's a good that is a good addition I'm glad you I'm glad you forced that into the show because it's a good one yeah no it's good the only other thing I wanted to mention about Synology is that DSM 7.1 which is disk station manager the software that runs your distations is well I will say it's almost out it has yet to show up as an automatic update for me but you can go to their website for it which we'll put in the show notes you can download it is released and you can install it on your distation I installed it on one of mine Jeff you're installing you ran you're running it on your your your primary distation yeah I am and I won't put beta DSM on on my Synology yeah but something like this where it's out of beta it just isn't showing up as an auto update right yeah I jump on on those same yeah I want the latest and greatest and I'm glad that you're going to include the link in the show notes so people know where to go and download this because it's super easy to install I mean for those of you that don't know the steps once you've downloaded the installer file you just hop into the DSM interface and when you go into the control panel part where you where you would normally see the software updates there's a button that says manually install and click that and then it says okay where's the install file which you just downloaded so you just pointed at that and then go put yourself another cup of tea in about 10 minutes later there you have the new version yeah yeah yeah there are you using any of the new features in DSM 71 yet Jeff or no not yet I mean I've poked around in the interface but it's been like a stupid busy week and I haven't had time to play yet I get that yeah I like I said I have it on one of mine I have I run two distations one that I sort of consider the backup one but it's not I mean it's it's used it's just not my main production one but on my main one I have not put 7-1 on there yet but I have been running the the the latest versions of Synology Office and Synology Drive and that has been working out amazingly well the the Synology Office we use for one of the businesses here all day every day and it is super it's a fantastic thing my only complaint is there's no way to edit documents on mobile which obviously is made shortcoming but but beyond that it works very well the new Synology Mail Plus server and I said last week and Jeff I'm going to rope you into this too I've asked Pete and John the same thing please please try to talk me out of ever running my own mail server again but for people who need to migrate from a no longer going to be free Google domain account Synology's new mail server has an easy importer from Google so you can just run your own mail server assuming your ISP will let you go and I'm probably going to do it but not with the domain that I that I rely upon if that Dave I don't think you should I agree with you you're absolutely right you know if that's really really where you went to go just go ahead and cut to the chase and start poking yourself in the hand with a fork my surgeon did that earlier this week so I you know so you've already experienced running and you have the bruises to show it you knew me I mean you were I think your macobserver.com mail was being hosted on the last mail server that I ran on the day that I decided I would no longer be running a mail server for the rest of my natural life yes so you've heard this rant before you can remind me of how vehemently how resolute I was in that decision but Dave when you made the decision to move all of our TMO email addresses away from your own email server yeah the relief that I heard in your voice the joy and happiness that I heard coming from you was palpable you know the thing is you never quite get the the same surge as you get from that first hit right and so I'm thinking maybe I need to run my own mail server again for like 10 years in order to set myself up for that same level of joy and relief Dave you always chase that first high you would never get it again yeah you're not wrong the full Synology NAS back up is a feature of 7-1 that I am eager to start taking advantage of because it hasn't been doable in a feasible way in the past you could back up bits and pieces of your settings but now you can just do a whole back up of the NAS so if well A if your NAS dies unintentionally you have a way of restoring what you had but B if you decide that you need to change the way your volume is built you can do a back up to another Synology now obviously you need to have enough storage and everything to do all this but you can now do that rebuild your volume and then restore and presumably get back to where you thought you were so that yeah there's some good things in this whole shared folder aggregation thing where you can take multiple SMB shares and present them to users as one that's not necessarily something I need to do for my my limited use here but it's still a really cool feature it is there I love that there are things coming out of Synology including their new router which they tell me I should be able to review real soon now we'll put it on say use that timing yeah exactly but but yeah I mean it's it's I'm always excited even if I don't need all these new features it's nice to see that you know I mean they're still committed to the product line and because I am very much committed to the product line and it's my life runs on you know if I if I lost my Synology stuff I'd be in bad shape man not good I get that I switch from Drobo to Synology a while ago and and while I loved the Drobo when I switched to the Synology you know it was one of those things where it's like why didn't I do this sooner yeah we felt the same way here when we did it yeah we had the Drobo FS which probably wasn't their best product that's kind it was underpowered in my humble opinion and under supported is that the one that connected directly to your computer no no the FS was their their first attempt at a network storage device like they sold us on the concept that we now employ with our Synology disk stations the whole idea of you're going to have a big Mondo storage device in your home or office what if we connect it to the network and let it be a file server and a media server and let third party app development happen and all of this stuff and we were like all in yeah unfortunately the app part never happened we didn't support the developer community properly they barely made their own apps and then it was a Mackie Keb listener that said hey have you guys checked out Synology because I think we were so gung-ho on this we convinced so many of you out there who listened to buy these things and we felt terrible about this that it just fell flat and finally somebody was like hey have you checked out Synology and I was like no the only thing I will give Drobo is that you can toss any drive into it and it just understands Synology is a little more restrictive as far as what you can do the only restriction on Synology is that you have to put in drives that are at least as big as your largest drive which I mean it's really not a problem you just need to be aware of it like for me I replaced Synology recently which is what brought Synology back up Jeff and it I decided to put the 18TB instead of the 16TB that I had before but I know now that that means I have to buy 18TB larger drives once that one puts itself into production you know that going in correct I know it going in and I want to my whole point is to continually expand the capacity of my distation this sort of forces me to embrace that I had a drive in my Synology die once and I try to put in another drive and it's like well I'm only going to use this much of it and no more because it wasn't bigger than the last one so that's the only thing the only issue that I have with their what they call SHR Synology Hypergrade that doesn't make sense though the same size it would have used the same capacity on it if the drive was bigger and you didn't have a drive matching it like if I want to use right now I think I am not using the full capacity of all the drives in my distation because I only have one most of my drives are 14TB drives or 12s even and I have 116 in there and until I have a second drive that is 16 or larger there's a 2TB stripe of that 16 that can't be matched anywhere and so you can't use it but that would have been exactly the same in a Drobo there's no difference there the Drobo required exactly the same thing to do that in fact I think they use LVM they both of them use LVM underneath it the Drobo and the Synology to do this and so a restriction that they don't want you trying to make things smaller because that way they can be more aggressive about the size of the stripes that they use and then that makes it more efficient but yeah you would have run into that same problem with the Drobo so it's not as different as you as you might think on all that Dave you had a Synology question that you wanted to ask earlier and were holding and I could tell it was really bugging you why in the heck don't you use your Synology as your Plex server I have two reasons the first reason is because my Synology is for my data backup explicitly and if I want to use the Synology for other things then I'll just give another Synology and then that would be the Multimedia Synology so that's the primary reason the secondary reason is because I had this Raspberry Pi sitting around and I thought I can spin up a Plex server on this let's see if it works and so it was like a Raspberry Pi 3B I think will it let you do any hardware transcoding or no oh yeah totally does then I don't retract my question but the the intensity of it I will dial way back yeah so part of it was can I do this yes I can oh it's cool and now it works and it works and it works well enough that there's one point during the pandemic where I spent some time in a hospital as a support person for someone else that was in the hospital got it and there were days where we sat there where it would have just been gruelingly difficult because there was just nothing to do except sit there and so we plugged my iPad into the television and launched the Plex app and we streamed movies through the crappy hospital Wi-Fi from sitting on top of a Synology in my place and so we just sat there and watched movie after movie and I mean it was solid we've talked about this on the show a few times that when I travel and now I'll connect to my Plex server you know the smart home the smart TV in Airbnb or something I'll connect to my Plex server and Apple TV Plus and Netflix and as a tip that we've shared on the show but I'll share again your benefit too if you are doing that make a note you know a before I depart from this Airbnb or hotel note to disconnect from each of those things because otherwise otherwise I'll be using your account when I'm in that Airbnb and I will that's right absolutely but but we have found that when there's Wi-Fi constraints let's put it that way that Plex beats all of them including Netflix in terms of just alright I'm going to deliver you a smooth experience here you go we were in one place where the download speed was at best 1.5 megabits per second this was like pre crappy DSL Proto DSL but Plex we couldn't watch anything other than Plex and it was great it was like no issue whatsoever and we weren't getting 1080p but you know it looked fine at that point you don't care about 1080p you care about do I have a clear image and is it stuttering first was yes and the second was no you're golden golden we have one last cool stuff found to share before we pull the plug on this one which really is I joked yesterday I said you know if we wind up doing cool stuff found with Jeff Gamet that's totally fine and it looks like that's actually going to be the title of this episode but the final one doesn't come from Jeff Gamet folks it comes from listener Steven Steven was looking on Kickstarter and sounds he said the new dock mule 17 in one Thunderbolt super docking station sounds interesting on paper and is very inexpensive at least when compared to the competition it is it kind of looks like maybe it's about the size of an Apple TV because you know it's that sort of thing doesn't look big enough to have all the ports it has no but look at this thing I mean all when I first saw this honestly I thought it was like an April Fool's joke because it was like wow they crammed a lot of ports onto that that's what I was just thinking I think in fact I thought I think OWC posted an April Fool's joke that didn't look all that different from this I mean I think theirs was a little bit more overcooked as it should be but yeah it's got three I think HDMI ports and an SSD enclosure in there five USB A four USB type C audio jack ethernet it's Thunderbolt and you can daisy chain with it just you know I mean looks pretty good and I think you can get one there are 129 bucks yeah for the early bird and then if they run out of those by the time you get one folks it's 149 so I think that's half the price of what you would pay for this elsewhere I think you know based on what they're saying I mean we haven't used it yet so please bear this in mind and it's a Kickstarter which means it may never see the light of day you are investing in a company that says they're going to build this device that you know that's how Kickstarter works but but yeah it sure seemed interesting so thank you for sending that in Steven fun stuff right it's good very cool that's really cool alright that brings us to the end thanks for hanging out with us thanks for coming Jeff this has been outstanding thank you for having me on this is the first time but it won't be the last I guarantee that awesome I can already tell you the listeners are going to tell us they want you back so but not too soon because they're going to run out of money fair enough we'll pace it alright Jeff you know I must apologize we started this episode I introduced you by name well you introduced yourself by name and we never really went any further than that because you and I have known each other for longer than I care to count and I just assume because of your presence that everyone knows you and where to find you but that's a terrible assumption for me as the host here to make so would you please write yet another wrong and tell people where to find you and all of that good stuff please happy to do that but you're not wrong I mean I'm guessing everyone here already knows me so hi everyone but for the couple of you that don't hi to you too Twitter and Instagram I'm Jay Gamet on both of those Dave did you know I've been doing some YouTube videos I'm aware that you've been doing some YouTube videos I love it yeah youtube.com slash Jay Gamet Dave and John were you aware that Brian and I have teamed up again and we're doing the context machine this is brand new to me I've never heard about this before Jay I heard mumblings okay well now you know Dave and our plan is to do 30 minute episodes and I'm now saying we pack 50 minutes to an hour into our 30 minute plan because we never finish at 30 minutes and yeah I'm kind of around you are around round, round, get around you get around I do as we record last night Dave Ginsburg had me on in touch with iOS for his 200th episode I mean how awesome is that we're still doing your drawings of annoying people you find in the coffee shop Fresh Brutales the website is live so you can go to freshbrutales.com but because of the pandemic and stuff being closed for a while there's nothing new up there so stuff will probably start happening again before too long but yeah that's still out there cool well thank you again thanks for joining us Jeff it has been obviously it's been a pleasure we've fully enjoyed this I've had so much fun good I'm glad to hear that that's good it's trial by fire here doing Mackie Cub as recent first time guests have told me your agenda changes like crazy throughout the show I don't have people who listened and then come on the show as a guest I had no idea that things were like it was moving that much as I bang my microphone here it's fun to watch in real time what's going on and I feel totally safe saying put me in cold coach I'm ready to play well now we've put in two songs in the outro I like this this is good alright thanks for hanging out with us folks thanks for listening thanks for sending in all your feedback at Mackie Cub for us it obviously makes the show thanks for joining Mackie Cub com slash discord we will happily see you over there John any lasting thoughts you want to share before we before we get out of here not really though I I get the sense that Jeff may have some advice well I think Jeff will have advice for us you're gonna go check out our sponsors right that's one thing we want to have people do right so go to Mackie Cub dot com slash sponsors you can find out about new yep new relic dot com slash mgg lumen skin dot com slash mgg well front dot com slash mgg at Mackie Cub dot com you can sign up for our newsletter so that's another thing you want to make sure you take care of your shoes don't take any wooden nickels gosh what else what is there do you have anything that we've missed here Jeff I think I have the most important tip for the day well I'm glad we finally made it don't get caught that's good advice words to live by