 Hello and welcome to EFAP mini episode thing for the Marvel's episode. Oh, wow Classic film the really just blue audiences away, right like wow It is the film that changed Marvel forever in a sense. Yes. Yeah, that is true It forced a lot of people to be like, okay, so Marvel's not doing so great. Mm-hmm a little bit Okay But uh, you know, we'll see how that progresses over time We're gonna have some of the questions and messages you guys sent in it's gonna be wonderful See what see what you're up to see what you had to say starting with just as South Park said EFAP put a chick in it And made it late and gay Lame and get unless they're talking about us being late. We might have been we might have been a little late I don't know. It's ringing late that day. Oh Don't think sorry. No, maybe because they said put a chick in it We had not so for that episode I think as well. So I guess we South Park to ourself nuts a hype That's a hype. Yeah, there was like a there was like a meme about the the EFAP we did on The the Nando vs. Movies one where we barely started that one a little bit after one and people and people are already making memes Like is there not a new up today? Well, guys calm down. I mean sometimes there is like, yeah We we just we don't do the thing that everyone wants us to do it just to put the the thing up ahead of time I just it's just something I just didn't have make a habit of doing but every other stream You know a sphere does it the like this stream will start in five hours that sort of thing I'll just starts up when we're already talking it's it's a it's a nightmare to follow as a fan But in a way, it's quite serene because we're just always there always talking talking about everything Um know that you along with all sentient beings are loved Okay. Oh, thanks Imagine Mola saying rags orange dog magic And then I and I just do it and you actually did do some I just do it magic. Yeah, cool What what do you think orange dog magic? What like I guess what do you think the variable of orange and dog? Would mean on someone's sort of base understanding of magic. What do you think it would look like? I'm not sure because if we go by We go by the logic like the show presented that maybe there's like is there white girl magic is there Asian girl Oh, well, I just meant like what are you imagine dogs, you know dog and a magic would look like What would a dog want to do with magic? Like make infinite, I don't know bones or something maybe something probably something about that Satisfying that, you know, they're simple that the same All like a sentient tennis ball that they can play catch with forever, but maybe just have more dogs be around You know Orange dog form of magic than the tennis ball is just orange and then we have satisfied all the variables Maybe they just whenever they're whenever they're lonely or whenever they're they just want to take a nap. They can just I Don't know they just use magic to make those things happen. I imagine it's not gonna be very complex You know, they're not into like super complex stuff. It's the simple things in life that they enjoy Imagine with like it with cats it'd probably be the same way like they could just conjure sunbeams through the window Or conjure a bowl of yarn that never With all these multi-verse shit going on I for one can't wait for Goku to show up You don't want him Just finished watching what Come at the frog. It's what about he could what about them up? It's it would probably be a good movie, but it wouldn't do shit for the MCU Especially you know, it'd be a good movie if they had control over it the Muppet side Control you got permit in the riders room. Yeah, and he's just like I'm just I'm just being checked in your script And I don't make a lot of sense. I used to just saying read draft might be the way to go He's trying to nervously find out what the most polite way of saying the script is worthless shit Or you just have it. He wants to be nice. He's at the riders room in that pitching their idea And he's just kind of sitting there with his hand on his chin. Just like Man he's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry Don't mean to be mean. I'm just it's just not a very good script, you know Just finished watching Anastasia on y'all's recommendation good film also free. Yes Don't want people to think you're a bird. Maybe don't make turkey gobbling sounds at the end of every episode That's good. Is that is that a Is that a turkey gobble sound kind of um, I guess Hmm. I'm trying to think of what other animal I would pick above it being a turkey sound malignant The little flimpy noises that were in the background Oh Damn, I don't even remember those noises. I don't remember much about that film Well, that's the origin of that door to do. Yeah, it's the it was she wasn't making those noises I was just saying that she made those noises of the fat movie Endowing her with those noise is what you see a briefly like running around like Four years ago more like you said it would be so hard to destroy the MCU take 20 bad films in a row Well, well, well, how the turntables, what do people keep saying that as though I wasn't correct They went and did that I say like it would it wouldn't happen because of how insane they'd have to be in terms of hyper incompetence It's like well, what if they did those like well then what I said would happen would happen Well, I feel it's it's worth emphasizing that it really is unprecedented and insane how Insistently bad those films were, you know, like it's not I'm not exaggerating when I say that they they like all bad Except for basically one that they're all really really really bad So annoying because it sounds hyperbolic, but it's just descriptive. It's just descriptive In one hour of the killer so far and I'm confident it's better than the entirety of the marbles I'm going out golfing enjoy the misery You're gonna have to finish the killer to be sure right you got to do it It'll never get it doesn't get to the Marvel's peaks No, I mean it's all right, but the Marvel's really it just has a certain a certain I don't know what It all quit about the killer. There's no multiverse. I don't think no multiverse. No space cat No black girl magic the phone should have ended with an alternate version of Michael fast vendor coming through a portal saying I need your help to do some killing you didn't kill you didn't you didn't shoot the guy through the window in this universe Oh my god, you just It would be Michael fast bender But his multiversal self would be a lady assassin and she wouldn't have missed. No Really good Yeah, like a band Just pointing out if you read the credits at sites not one but one science advisor Why'd you say that not one but one they probably will essential Sell essential oil candles That would have been a funny job science advisor I guess that's that's funny that there's a science advisor who was involved and got credited But the original creators of any of the characters that were featured in the film don't get any credit at all How do you know for me that they didn't ask not to be credited at this point is too embarrassing, you know That's That's entirely possible, but I don't know exactly when they started just saying based on the Marvel comics But they did start doing that when they used to actually credit the original creators of the characters in the film It makes it's like they're it's almost like they're I think they're doing it because it looks better in their eyes to say Yeah, this is based off of our characters. This is based on Rather than you know based on Captain America written or created by the writer and the artist Yeah, I guess so I I hope the DC actually keeps doing that it's it bugs me a bit that They're just like a fuck it based on the Marvel comics not based on Characters that were created by people, you know, it's like yeah, they're ours. They're ours. All right. We made them They're ours Hey massive DVDs recently added Chucky from Child's Play as a killer thoughts on DVD and then many collabs with other IPs I guess that's just for me I enjoy the ones that they obviously like You know respects where it came from and try to mechanically manipulate them into being something that would satisfy the fans of that franchise While if they can get like original voice actors or sound effects or tracks that will relate to it Like take advantage of that IP collaboration and make it so that The fact that you don't get to have a game all about them But instead players them in Dead by Daylight that hopefully you can flesh it out enough that it feels worthwhile I guess the counter comparison could be someone like fortnight where you see, you know John Wick Darth Vader Peter Griffin and Optimus Prime and they were all just like running with a gun and just like There's a friend of mine kind of hated all Collaborations even like the Dead by Daylight ones Definitely in the position of saying like it's just it's all gross and corporatey and slimy and sloppy and trying to Sell you on everything by using Like the recognizable things but not like the substance of the thing. I'm a little bit more lenient But fortnight is something that does feel like a swamp of like if your IP is like destined to end up there, you know It seems that way with stuff like I mean and even call of duty is now doing it Right like these crossovers with Dune or the boys and everything just thrown in there Because that's a way to sell your game and to get people to buy into battle passes and stuff That's by tying it into other IPs that they may like But I mean the cost of all of this is that in terms of a cohesive sort of Art style it seems like fortnight can kind of get away with it a bit more Like that that's it's almost like that's what its identity has become is a whole bunch of different characters from different Yeah, but through the aesthetic It compared to something like Call of Duty where it's like, you know This is still kind of trying to be a military shooter, but you've just got like fucking a homelander running around Yeah Mm-hmm Imagine if you're playing world at war Oh Lander running around there like That just sound miserable. Yes, and it does That's what I mean like if you you know thoroughly enjoyed and we're engaged with world at war and then you go Resnov's gonna be in fortnight. We like Okay, man, I'm very thankful that Resnov is in fortnight Also play little nightmares high rags mubles and of course friend gold Hey, oh Yes, the person corrected themselves. They said they meant to say not one but two science advisors But they had two science advisors on the marbles Okay Yes Meme for mad magic memory a marriage story where they're on set and there's a guy who says he's the Expert I can't remember what it's an expert in now But he says he's an expert in something then they say so how's the film doing like is it accurate and you just want to know Yeah, okay, so he's just there to just be there Which is unfortunate, but doesn't surprise me. You need a pretty high cue to understand the science of the marbles absolutely This one just says eviscerations Eviscerations no breathing. Yeah Maybe they're eviscerating the the lore of the comic book characters. They've eviscerated it. They've cut it to ribbons I'm not sharing your thoughts on panda verse also high-fringy It's really funny. It's a funny special. It was funny They wouldn't say When you say panda verse with your accent, I almost think of like kung-fu panda in a No, they the panda verse is like, oh, okay. Well, yeah, I guess that'd be interesting Yeah, well, and we do have a new entry in the panda verse Hopefully it's not cringe it it will be cringe aquafina will Be the new dragon warrior. Is it so much stuff? I Guess people really and enjoy her It gives me the vibes of something you're trying to force like they're forcing her to be a thing. I don't know Like top-down culture. I don't know She hasn't earned her position that people don't love her. I know should people do love her. I love her. Oh, she is my she's McQueen Yes with South Park, I wish they would continue the storyline I think they could build out a really fun whole season with that as like the backdrop all this multi-verse and Pantry stuff because there's so much to tackle and it's become so culturally relevant to talk about and Yeah, they have every right to bring in and make fun of loads of characters and they did it It's crazy. They made fun of Spielberg and Lucas for raping Indiana Jones for King of the Crystal Skull Man, you know hard to believe that There would come a time Making fun of our they'll making fun of them for like all of the the HD like the the special effects that they were injecting into the old Films, you remember you remember that episode? It was the one where they played their new version of Raiders of the Lost Ark that They had remade and then it was the Ark of the Covenant Did they do that is that based on a real thing where they Did new versions of the old movies and added like special effects and stuff. Well, you know about Star Wars, obviously Well, so that was what it started with it was like the boys go to the movies And then it's like oh saving private Ryan except they're all They're guns are replaced with walkie-talkies and so you've just got all the soldiers on the beach Shooted with walkie-talkies and then you know like remake of Star Wars and but like more Ewoks and everything This was back in the early 2000s and so like the whole episode was The whole episode basically turned into Raiders of the Lost Ark with the idea being that the Ark of the Covenant was Spielberg and Lucas wanting to remake Raiders of the Lost Ark an idea that was absurd to the boys Which is again, it's crazy that that was back in the early 2000s and everything's gotten dramatically worse on that front If the novelization of a much better sequel trilogy from another universe was available Would you read them into dimensional reading? Would I read like a really great sequel trilogy novelization? Yeah Probably not probably not on account of being a book Well, I was just gonna say on account of the fact that like it's I could they're fanfics of a really good sequel trilogy that exists in our world Yeah, but I mean, I don't know like this it sounds like really good like a really really really good like Really good. This one's this one's I presume when they say a good I presume they don't mean well, it's got nice pros, but it's the same plot I presume they mean that it's like a rewritten sequel trilogy and read it again If you want they said novelization of a much better sequel trilogy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'd probably read that Yeah, probably not if Fringy told me that I should read it after reading it then. Yeah, sure Yeah, maybe that would definitely increase it in my estimation. The fact there's from another universe Wouldn't like that doesn't add or take away from anything I feel like if I read a thing and it's like, you know, if we watch Lord of the Rings and then I said this is actually from a different universe I think I would be sad I'd be like why what would make you so sad about it that it's not from ours Yeah, but it's from a world, you know Yeah, but if I've already accepted the fact that infinite possibilities are all out there then It's like so we just didn't get the one that was cool. Okay So many times Consider as like almost cosmically lucky that we got that this this universe is with shit Peter Jack's Lord of the Rings I'm like, I wish we had the universe that had the good Lord of the Rings and we're sitting like That's true, but then they're also said they'd be like Wow, isn't it great that all of our franchises a fight except maybe one We're just like I'm a skill of one to ten How likely do you think we will have at least one more great Star Wars movie in the theaters before we all turn 80? Their guess is 30% like It's gotta be Because who knows who knows what things look like in 20 30 years from now, you know Once the copyright is done on Star Wars, can we get someone maybe making something that's not great? I'll be within 80 years, right? Yes Wait, I don't know it depends what because Mickey Mouse was like that that took a hundred years that ended up taking Well, but with the cover of stars we've starred in what 77 I guess it's possible then Yeah, we'll see but yeah, I'm hoping we can get at least one good To a Mandalorian and Grogu man right right right now Mandalorian and Grogu By John Faber oh, yeah, we'll be an infant forever Yeah, yeah That'd be good. I'm all the rags ringing in guests. Hello. Hi Hey, I'm writing a story about a firefighter turned superhero Would it be okay for me to use efeb characters slash laws side characters? Go ahead. Yeah, well from yeah, why not? Yeah, just make us look flattering and handsome and intelligent and Well endowed and you know, then you'll be good to go I don't mind being an eldritch horror in the story if you want. That's fine. Yeah, make us make us lovable make us lovable We got a correct hysteria type I Hope at some point down the line Marion Luigi Superstar saga gets a movie adaptation of sorts. I heard that the Mario and Luigi like RPGs are really good and funny. That's what I've heard about. They're really funny I know nothing about them I think they're the reason why paper Mario is no longer an RPG is because those exist And so Nintendo's thinking was well, we've got an RPG series for Mario So let's do paper stuff with paper Mario, which is not what people want Because that's what they don't like they did the sticker game and then they had like an origami one And all I see from because I haven't played any of the paper Mario games I will though eventually Is that everybody just wiped Thousand-year-dora in the first paper Mario because they were really cool RPGs with like paper as kind of a fun Aesthetic rather than everything being about arts and crafts as a premise to the exclusion of like Uh an overarching narrative with characters That's what I've heard anyway Uh Why did they do the memory store again also high uh who are high in general? Hi I had a memory machine in the first film Because it's a terrible writers like get out of jail free card for anything It's like you are your magic power to do whatever you want whenever you need it So whenever you need to be like, oh, we got to have a plot thing happen for this is a quick memory store a headset Except they just made it portable. They just made a portable memory store Yeah Once again amazing technology that needs to be shared with earth, but won't be Like uh, think of the applications for it can access every one of your your your history like a movie Yeah, it would change everything like I'm not even kidding all industries alone. Yeah, it would be insane But let's never think about any of that No, because if we make the world what it should be then we have to we can't just shoot in The the just can't shoot the world as it is with our cameras We would have to do a bunch of whole shit to it and that would be even more expensive Uh, popple the shadow thief is one of my favorite mario characters. Look that boy up. He's great. See I'm guessing he's a character from the mario luigi games. Yes, so let's have a little look see The shadow thief, so I guess he steals shadows Look at that grin God, he just loves stealing shadows. He loves stealing. Yeah, he's like stealing He's definitely having fun Him and peter pan getting to scraps I bet Look at him, look at him grin Uh, kk was butt-hit by panda vs teahee. She probably didn't appreciate it But the the wise way forward is what they do a lot of stuff, which is probably just never acknowledge it Move on Yeah, I'm sure that sort of thing gets around south park is too big to ignore You also have to take an account. There was no Thursday preview for incredible hulk that didn't exist in 2008 Oh in terms of the box office on opening. Well, uh, obviously now we're at the point where it doesn't even matter It is the lowest grossing mcu film lower than incredible hulk and of course that's not even adjusting for inflation It uh It was a disaster. It's the first Ant-man did not make its money back that the marbles was like a dramatic flop Uh, hi, I'm gay actor michael douglas, and I don't like how nintendo is trying to remove the 93 movie off streaming Preservation of art. What's that? Oh, it deserves its place there. Absolutely I'm guessing I don't want people like let's watch the mario movie. Oh, yes Oh my god, why did they make it like this? Is this the mario movie? Shut up honey. I bought you the mario movie from the guy Yeah, the guy in the alley behind target is selling me the mario movie There's a box set 4k restoration of the 93 mario movie That's being sold in australia trust the fungus Oh, yeah, we will do an efat movies on it eventually It's free. You've not seen it, right? I've not seen the original We can watch it back to back with your fucking Wizard of Oz movie No, no, no, that'll be a separate thing That that would if anything that teams up with you know the original uh Oz because because I mean Oz the great and powerful we could Because yeah return to us just one of the to be fair that should probably be in a the thing Where would the three of us pick our like scariest child films? If you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, I've already got mine picked out. Yeah, what is yours? Uh a little Nemo adventures in slumberland Bring it. Do you know what yours would be? I actually don't know off the top of my head what I would pick Well, I don't think about that Uh, I have better legs than this movie and I'm wheelchair bound Four morvils Maybe I'll get a membership after another 1000 super chats. Hey, you know Whatever you want to do if you want to do a membership if you want to do super chats If you want to do neither, it's okay. It's all right. I appreciate it. That brings us closer Kevin fatigue and Dave fail only leading the way Yeah, I mean Is basically like in charge of star wars as it is right now. It's just like yep, that's doomed. Good luck with that Absolutely doomed. It sucks to hear people celebrate on twitter when like the news comes out Well, yeah star wars is saved. We've got philoni. Let them uh, just let them see what happens Let's let us all I I don't think we have any reason to think that he's going to generate anything close to what like You know ot era Prequel era even we were going to get us okas. That's that's his thing. That's what he knows how to do apparently Yeah, he's got his action figures and he's going to smash them together And then he's going to look off into the distance without saying anything for extended periods of time Of main villains lose and then say nah, actually this is good. Yeah I know what i'm doing. Yeah, we're gonna spend the rest of the time doing nothing You guys just be hating because strong women some disney shills probably I honestly can't believe there are people who like these superhero movies Well, there's plenty of people who just want to be in the vibe of enjoying the action movie that comes out I just want to be like yeah fun fun fun and then They're like oh shit people don't like this anymore and it's like no And I feel like they are people who would also shift with enough of their friends Not enjoying it, you know, they'd be like yeah, actually this is shit true and they'd enjoy shit on it then, you know That was kind of the way that I was before tlj before e-fap and everything got started I was like super just go to the movies. Have a good time. Look at the lights Then go back home and carry on with your life and then You know tlj broke my neurons So here we are Every time I hear about monica rambo I turn into that meme of snoop dog shouting who? Yeah, it's hard to know who the fuck she is. We don't even know who she is now No, she's barely a character Oh, yeah Is she uh Do you think she is going to be an avenger? Uh, probably she'll show up in it, but I imagine she won't get that much like screen time Yeah, unlike um, I gaya she will definitely come back I don't even know what's happening with her. I don't think they're gonna do anything with gaya. I don't know I think they might be uh You know There'll be a throwaway line that says that the super scroll stuff wore out So they'll have to find some way they'll probably just won't say anything. I think they'll uh, I I don't know I think that you can't ignore that that was the kind of thing that everybody who saw it was like Oh, so she's the most powerful character in the mc. That's why I think Well, you and I are going into different directions because I think that's why they're going to ignore it How do they ignore it? I mean like she just doesn't have any powers and they don't say no I mean like she never shows up again. We never see I'm saying if she shows up again Oh, they will have a throwaway line, but she might not show up. I totally agree with that She might just that might spear They might do just the unspoken nerf like they did with captain marvel and the marvels, you know Where she should be instantly winning every fight all the time with no issues whatsoever What they'll do is if they have her she'll be using her powers like swapping between powers But they're not going to be nearly as effective as they should be That's that I could see that I could see it'll be like suicide squad Where Superman could just kill them all and the flash could just kill them all all the time But but they but he just doesn't and we just don't talk about it Yeah, I could buy that. Um, I guess in terms of the idea of like, well, which characters are gonna Be in an Avengers movie and get the most screen time It's like well the characters probably get the most screen time would be like Benedict Cumberbatch Doctor Strange Captain Falcon probably get a decent amount of screen time But then when you start to get to more like your secondary or tertiary characters They're going to be fighting for a couple of minutes. I imagine You know I ranks Hello If you added too much matter and atmosphere to a planet would that increase the mass and affect the orbit of the planet? Same for the decrease high rags Technically but probably not enough to well, I don't think it would be enough The size of the planet, you know, like what is the weight of all of the ocean? Well, I guess I'm just saying like relatively, you know, how much does all of the water on earth weight compared to the mass of the earth? I imagine it's very very very low by comparison Yeah, I think that what considering the crust of earth is just not just the crust, you know the crust the mantle Well, I'm saying in reference to the whole mass of the earth the crust and what we're used to was such a tiny little You know Yeah part of it And when you start getting into adding atmosphere to a planet like how much mass do you really add to a planet? By giving it a lot more atmosphere like it's not nothing But compared to what it already has in terms of being you know molten solid iron and rock and all that stuff It can't be that but well, I mean if you want to get to the real science stuff Why wouldn't the atmosphere just escape out of the atmosphere? You know like why would it? Like just because you if you dropped a bunch of air on mercury, why would it stay there? Why wouldn't it just disperse into space? Yeah, there's only you'd probably get a little bit thicker of an atmosphere But there's probably a cap for how much atmosphere a A planet can hold in because of its mass Like earth can only keep enough atmosphere close enough to itself before it starts to drift away Well, it's there is no there is no clear line between where the atmosphere ends. It just gets thinner until you're in space It's not like that's a line where you'll be like. Oh, well, yeah There's the atmosphere it ends here when space begins there We can approximate that but the atmosphere just gets thinner and thinner and thinner Yeah, I think we I think don't we measure atmospheric pressure and tour or something like that, but uh, I I I don't know isn't it one at at m like isn't that the the unit of measurement? So like oh, that's an automatic teller machine That's a totally But oh the but I don't know what the the official arbitrary but agreed upon line Of this is where space begins isn't like a hundred kilometers. Isn't that something I think it is I think it is a hundred kilometers um but Maybe i'm often it's Yeah, I don't mean technically sure but hey, you know the marvels is not a science. They had two science advisors. What do you mean? Yeah, I'm sure that the force awakens how to science advisor. It's doing all the science lesson JJ says Unvisor he and whatever they said is this too scientific. He said yes, don't do that They had the guy they had the high the guy who said the hyperspace kamikaze was a okay They had had that guy they brought him back and they're like, yeah, sure do it whatever We sure as Pablo Hidalgo said that was fine on the story team. Anyway um The that low key explanation of him becoming idrassil contradicts thaws explanation in the first thought it's nonsense. So when the end of season two happens, which you guys will get to Or have gotten to probably have the the uh from our coverage I mean the nature of him becoming the god of stories and idrassil being some kind of like he's like the grand Controller of all of the universe and all of time now Is like see that's kind of Norse ish And it's just like you don't even remember you didn't fucking watch the other films because you tell in your own story You have no idea what's happening like the fact that they brought a boulder randomly and it's just like you You've already basically said it in stone that he wasn't in your version. You didn't adapt him But like okay, you just thrown it in now because you're like, I don't know. He's fucking awesome We'll make a joke about who even knows who boulder is it's like Oh well just because you forgot to put him in it doesn't mean he doesn't exist Working within what you've already set up is so much more cool and harder to do And strengthens the entire process compared to Well, you guys did that can we do this? And then I say that and that's already way more You know generous than what they do which is they have no idea what the people did before They don't even ask the question. They don't know that there's a question to be asked on whether they can or cannot do something Um, I want to use an example from Buffy Rags, can you mute for like one minute? Definitely, I suppose definitely Yeah, sure I'll ping you when I'm it won't take long and this applies to anyone listening who doesn't want any buffy spoilers All right, I'm gonna go get a drink and pee So uh season two when angel is supposed to become the bad guy They they need like what would be called? I guess a jobber Someone to keep us busy until he's he's in And so they bring in a character called spike and they're like, you know, we've got a charismatic actor This should be good enough and they introduce him. It's like, how do we make him seem threatening? It's like, I There's let's just say he's killed two slayers. That's pretty scary Two, you know, that's more than one. That's not just like, you know, that's significant, right? It's like that means he's gonna be a super threat and he is a super threat He almost beats buffy in a fight almost straight away And you have the whole plot line with him Um healing drusilla and then they decide to keep him then you fast forward three seasons And buffy's experiencing an arc in relation to how she's coming to terms with the you know, she's not invincible She could die at any moment and she's got to be really careful and spike gives her the huge lesson The ultimate point being that most slayers essentially want to die because they can't take it for as long You know, they're only human right they can only go on for so long And eventually they're kind of hoping that this fight will be their last sort of thing He teaches her that through Fleshing out extensively the two slayers that he killed And it's like damn that was three years ago that you even set that up and it was set up like, you know I'm happy to just admit they did it probably pretty casually. They're like, yeah, he killed two slayers Whatever that makes him sound scary But by the time you get through the whole show, it's like a significant portion of his background The helps flesh him out almost completely and then it adds to like another arc and Look what you achieved by using something that already existed You didn't have to go like Fuck it. He killed four slayers at the same time That's more scary. I should be like, but that's not what we said before and it's like, oh, that was like three seasons ago Who's gonna remember that? Yeah, nobody will remember I didn't even remember until you pointed it out well Do you mean like remembering that on his intro because that's no, no, no I mean, I mean, I'm I'm meaning like I'm saying that the writer doesn't even know because I haven't even watched the other stuff But yes that like that is something that was probably thrown in there to just Instantly make him seem more intimidating But then they leveraged it because Of course, that's what you do Yeah, you just remember your fucking history and they do it a lot as the show goes on because they're like Oh, we can actually do something with this instead of just ignore Well, and and there's no huge benefit from review aside because if you are there and you remember something that happened like Seven eight years ago from when you are watching it. It is cool to have your Uh, having paid attention to the story rewarded by the story Dude when uh Okay Yeah, so if up on my birthday you're too kind mr. Longo Oh, no problem. We're here for birthdays. Okay It's like do maternal when the corporate tells the scientists to let the demons kill them Oh with the cat Oh the cat's right. Yeah Well, yeah, because I don't know like the these like eldritch abominations Maybe maybe you'd rather risk just dying than being eaten by them Yeah, nobody has any idea what the fuck is about to happen, but you just have like funny Everything's just funny. That's the vibes Well, it's just, you know, I mean, I wonder how kamala would have felt if it's like right now your family get them eaten Yeah, and you just like how do we know It's like uh, most of the time people seem to be okay, and it's like but these things have also killed people by eating them, right? I absolutely have so And the well the thing is is in the first one Like the tesseract didn't get destroyed, but you could have just chalked that up to well How exactly does he can't destroy a tesseract with a with a flurkin? Exactly. So and all we ever saw was people get eaten and died, but then in this film They were like, oh, well, they they get spat up Which is just some bullshit that they made up for this film because they wanted it for the fight scene and they wanted it for Well, they're always in storage in there. They're always just hanging out Once upon a time there were three little girls who went to the police academy charlie's angels proper 70s female representation Our pro would have been better. I never saw the 70s version, but I saw the um, I think I saw a few Uh, did you ever see the sequel to that one? Yes Wasn't good Those were those were some kind of wacky movies. Mm-hmm Uh, captain marvels of the marvels will be the biggest box office drop off SF od a sequel since alice in wonderland to alice through the looking glass I think it's a worse drop off than that one, right? I don't see why I wouldn't set the record, but maybe there's one I'm missing Well, because I mean aquaman ended up making twice as much money as aquaman two ended up making twice as much money as the marvels How much did alice through in the? Through the looking glass not in it, I suppose Alice through the looking glass because the first one like inexplicably made a billion dollars No, I think I think it's it's it is worse than that one because uh, alice through the looking glass made 300 million which For 175 million dollar budget or 170 million dollar budget that is not good enough But that's better than 200 million dollars and then 200 million dollars is gross Yeah, that's like Money, but it's not like panic Uh, it probably was a little bit panic bad because that would have they would have lost money But they didn't lose as much money. Yeah. So yeah, the marvels is a bigger box office drop off I Bet this stream makes more of a profit than disney does off the marvels. That's true. Oh, as long as we made even a dollar. Yes Every dollar that you give to efap you're sticking it to the mouse One mouse. He's he's pretty much dead Kicking us out making us is probably pretty tired I just want to retire. Oh, and then I keep whipping him. I was like, no, you will work You belong to us and then as soon as you become public domain, he can escape Wow, usually that's the way it's presented is that but but that's because every yeah, mickey mass is always presented as the evil corporate villain But maybe he's the victim Maybe yeah, nobody ever portrays bugs bunny as like the evil corporate or the lord of water brothers Someone please make this pick a futa meme I'm not sure what they I don't know if that's gonna happen Is black girl magic that politically correct him for voodoo? Well, it is appealing to which doctors are are men too The voodoo, you know Well, uh, because because you have uh, I can't remember what trope it's called But isn't it like a mystical black person became like a problematic thing or whatever That the uh older movies were accused of And so it's like flipped into Like because that that's what that joke is trying to appeal to I assume, but I don't even know it's kind of confusing Like you're a black girl. You do your magic like I think I think it's meant to be like, oh, yeah, you're awesome or something. I think I think it's meant to be it's that basic Just yeah, whoo. I am what I am. You know what I mean? Like that's like a clip. So from the pirates movies I know I always I've always kind of enjoyed that sort of trope the Like the voodoo priest who could do the spells and the curses and he has all the bone totems and the fetishes and the You know, like the really nifty cool kind of stuff Um, I've always kind of I've always liked that as an as an aesthetic and as a kind of character Um, like a different take on the you know the the more I guess the more western like witch in the woods that you maybe make deals with and I'll give you this in exchange for this and I'll use the eye of an interesting trick. You know, you know Yeah, maybe maybe maybe maybe she does that's the thing sometimes Sometimes they give you exactly what you want and they make a deal like marie levaux. Do you know about marie levaux? Yeah, she made a deal with a witch and it worked out No, marie levaux is the witch See, you don't even know you don't even know about marie levaux when I said she I wasn't referring to marie levaux Interesting very interesting Yeah Got you I read Hello any feelings or thoughts on dark tide? Um, yeah, I've got some I have like A lot of time in vermin tide too a lot of time over a thousand hours kind of time um like mean builds and cataclysm because I want to challenge myself kind of time and um Um When dark tide came out and I was super excited for it because I played vermin tide too so much and based on everything that happened in vermin tide too I was really excited considering like oh fat shark that the devs fat shark like they really must have learned a lot Because of all the changes that they've been doing and they're trying to do this and that with character builds And like they added a cash shop, but it was years after the fact and it used real currency But also there's earnable stuff in game. It's like oh, this is pretty neat, you know Um, and then dark tide comes out. It was kind of it was shit when it came out and I was really really disappointed Uh, and then I came back a couple years later and I played it and I was like, oh, this is better But it's still like eh, it's so so Um, I would recommend vermin tide to way before dark tide honestly, but I think it's really disappointing I think they could have done a whole lot better with it And I'm probably not going to play it again. Maybe But yeah, pretty pretty disappointing Um, it's probably going to be like my go-to example for when a game um swaps Established and defined characters with everybody just making their own characters and customizing them Because vermin tide too had barden gorkson sienna fwagon asses We had the carillion marcus crouber and victor salt spire So you had five characters who were all very different in terms of their personality their aesthetic their You know their attitudes towards everybody else in the party and so as they bantered and talked And you could learn a lot about them and who they were and you got to really like them And I think we lost a great deal by replacing established characters in a game with Every player just makes up their own convict and that's how you play as um So that's kind of meh and also there's the other gameplay stuff and it's just it's fine, but I expect I expected a whole lot better All right What is touching the portal tell you best case scenario how it feels and maybe temperature worst case scenario death or portal implosion I mean, yeah But we need the movie to happen Yeah We do need the movie to have Do you think beyond the spider verse will answer how incursions happen in the mcu across the spider verse seemed to hint a lot to it No, I don't think that they have anything to do with each other I don't think that what we see in across the spider verse is meant to be the same as incursions in the mcu because they're different studios I I just don't think that there's there's that much collaboration in terms of storytelling. I think the thinking that is um I could the best that I could basically the way that I would view it is that whatever is going on in like a Sony produced spider man thing, which is all of them I guess what I mean is like not in any way You know with a clear connection of marvel studios anything that happens in them could influence other things that sony does at spider man So even to the games, but not the mcu. I don't think they have anything to do with each other Nostalgia critic of all people had a pretty funny skit about the cohen brothers garfield Fair enough I'm sure he's made funny skits. Yeah, sometimes One of the better ones Good stuff I jay longbone and high wags Oh, hello The rotten tomato score for this movie is super sus. No way the audience scores that high. No, I don't buy it either Wasn't much of an audience in the first place Um I remember nick fury. He was in the mcu. Yeah. Yeah. He was in the mcu apparently at some point I don't know when he left exactly I think he got snapped and you know he came back I think what they should do is in the post credit scene They they should just have nick fury talking with people to just remind us that nick fury's still around, you know Let's draw some connections So that's how the switch works Then captain could have solved the movie by telling miss marvel and monica to not use their powers since she could 1v1 Yeah, she could Yeah, and I mean the I you know, it's clear that the film understands wait, how do we justify bringing Kamala on this adventure and they're just like, oh, well, you know We need her around and it's like no, you don't just tell her not to use her powers Yep, that's literally all you have to do It's not like her powers are passive They're very active. They are you need to like make something you need to create a construct Whereas like Carol can't even you know, like she flying is using her abilities, right like Any there was just like a number and she's the most powerful and most experienced one There was no reason for the film to be what it was I don't even know why they went with the whole switching like it's such a bizarre premise to me Your powers are such that when you use them at the same time You switch your places. It's such a weird idea for a film strange. It's an odd one It is also the original modern warfare 3 day. God bless Uh might have been probably Modern warfare 3 tends to come out in November. Modern warfare 3 was a crazy game. It's kind of funny I feel like modern warfare 3 No, I don't even feel I know it has a worse reputation than 2 but like the multiplayer was more balanced Yeah, I think a lot of people The the famous thing I remember on the first weeks of release that all me and my friends are the netcode and Spawns were awful on modern warfare 3. That's the thing. I was I was playing battlefield 3 when I when I was coming out I got modern warfare 3 a bit later. It was like spawn camping and spawn kills everywhere and more for three at the beginning I don't know how they fuck that up. I never understand Modern warfare 2 It didn't learn from modern warfare 2 that shit was because modern warfare 2 had a lot of yeah I love modern warfare 2 but like that multiplayer was insanely unbalanced imbalanced Like god damn like fucking I remember I remember that it was like the longer that the game went on the more it started to devolve to where you know Before black ops came out the common thing on terminal was People would just get up on that uh that central part is like a cross from the cockpit of the plane That had a view of the entire outside as well as the whole way into the spawns Uh on the different sides. Well what they didn't cover it had an AC and it's like it was just covered too So it was They just grenade launcher one man army. So they just keep shooting grenade launchers down and then one man army to get big She don't forget Big package and commando. Okay the best combo. Oh Commando pro. Yeah commando. Yeah, I'd rather far was insane longer. It was it was legitimately nuts. Yeah, that's great Like that that game taught us a lot about how not to design a multiplayer game Like oh, yeah your kill streaks your kill streaks help you get more kill streaks So the rich get richer and it's really easy for that to happen And between the one man army and commando pro and then just the fact that the time to kill was super low guns were super accurate You had heartbeat sensors on your guns. You had extremely deadly nub tubes the ability to replenish those things You it was nuts That was a mega cancer game and um, I remember it was uh It was um modern warfare 3 introduced the three different um, I don't know why they don't fucking talk to each other like the developers um because black ops like the the codpoints like that system Where you could just every one you wanted. Yeah, you didn't need to go through the linear progression You could unlock the perks and the weapons you wanted that was way better You unlocked the ability to buy weapons as you leveled up But once you had a weapon unlocked You could buy it with codpoints as well as the attachments the reticles the reticle colors Instead of it being like well, you got to unlock all this shit that you don't want to use And then you got to go through 16 attachments to get the one and then I remember um black ops Two had the pick 10 system that the infinity ward seemed to be like completely resistant to using which I also really liked pick 10 Yeah, the brief time I played this game. I was like, oh, yeah I could mix and match with my with my perks and grenades Like if I want to have more grenades at the expense of less perks or Or if you want to have, you know Only one primary weapon with way more attachments instead of a secondary that like that flexibility was cool And then it was like but they didn't And I remember it was uh, the reason why I was thinking about that was because modern warfare 3 had the three different uh killstreaks So there was the the killstreaks It was a scorestreaks. I think it was because I had the assault and the support and specialists I think assault was like all the fun ones, right? It was like whether The attack helicopter and ac 130 and stuff was and then support was more like team oriented things Yeah, it was counter UAVs and UAVs and things like that and then specialists. I think was you unlocked additional perks Yeah, as you got kills at points, you would get more and more perks. Yeah, that was a good idea That was a fucking good idea Yeah, I should have kept doing that then they didn't because I don't fucking talk to each other when they're making these games I think or rather it was because I don't know like either infinity ward and trade arc alternating depending on when they're becoming the more Favored studio were too arrogant to do what the other team had done Yeah, I don't know what they're what they're I guess conversations if they existed kind of looked like if they were all just sort of Told to do their own thing to keep them decently distinct Um or I'm not sure really. I know I know that a lot of the call of duty stuff and the reason I got out of it it got me to really appreciate the Relatively more like in a way the more simple battlefield where here's your class you can choose from these weapons Like here's your make a kit and then go out and get them, you know It was so much more simple and it felt so much better Uh, it just wasn't as crazy and unhinged Well, that's that's like call of duty success was essentially it was a crazy dopamine um Like game everything about it is designed to give you dopamine hits to get you really excited at the sounds that even down to the sounds that uh, like the hit detector sound where it's like Like it makes really like sort of nice satisfying punchy sound and then boom like oh you got 100 points And then the guitar music, you know the guitar riff that that would play when you level up Um It's just so many loud sounds and flashy lights and everything to do feel like Right pretty much the thing that people had to kind of catch up on Well, it's a thing that a lot of other games started doing when halo started implementing halo 4 had it Where if you got a kill instead of it just being like well, you saw that you got a kill So why would we need to tell you that you got one? Um other than like the little thing in the the bottom right hand corner left hand corner of the screen That was just saying what was happening, but then halo 4 is like oh you got a kill You got a headshot like oh popping up in the center of the screen That's when it started to get obnoxious to get the announcer to uh, you know Whoa, yeah, you you had to get like a double kill trip. You had to actually do something impressive Whereas instead it's just like you got a kill here you go and it's like dude come on Let's chill out a little bit. I remember the simple days are like bad company too. Um, I gave that a laugh Whereas like when you got a kill there'd be like a you know soldier killed 50 at the bottom and it'd be like yep You did it. Good job. Keep going But that was really it. It was so much more subtle by comparison And even you know even now in its current state when you play a modern battlefield game So like 1 5 and 20 42 It's a lot more it's more noticeable, but it's still not like crazy in your face But there is that element of Like it does feel really good When you blow up a tank and it's got like four people in it and you get you know, all the things pop up But that's the thing is that it The idea should be that you get those sorts of things when you've actually accomplished something great rather than You got a kill And you got it on a guy who just killed you even though you probably didn't even know that So here's extra points and extra things that pop up on screen to tell you how awesome you are Maria hill had scenes filmed for this movie that were cut. So I think it originally was set before secret invasion Oh, there's there's a lot that's been cut that we now can tell from the models Like well, it seems like they cut out the entire third act and changed it completely Uh, because that's like behind the same stuff that just isn't in the film Which is weird that they even released it because it's like very obviously not in the film It's um It's funny that they would have you know, it's gotten so bad that I would half expect them to just have a fucking scene where Maria hill talks to fury and they're just like, yeah, fuck it Fuck it was supposed to be dead. It's like Shut up. Yeah, but this was set before or something whatever Hope you guys are okay. Love what you guys are doing Well, uh, yeah Yeah, things are okay over here Dub and shoulders are the roof of a house and her head is the chimney. Try on seeing that now Yeah, it's like a weird. I don't know what they're doing with that. The whole character isn't said I don't know why they thought that that was a good idea Daenerys kind of looking thing It's I don't even know why they wouldn't have uh I don't know why they wouldn't have gone for like an actual captain marvel villain like a real one as well That's something I find weird like why wasn't moonstone? That just seems to but I guess I like yeah, we need darben Just some rando Jen v uses a willhelm scream for a victim during a college terrorist attack It's more than just bad writing its cringe and tonally flimed high rags. That's that's not where I would use a willhelm scream ever Yeah, that's that's um Not smart They'd use uh, they use one of the harbors too. Yeah Well, yeah, but I mean if you use a willhelm scream in a situation where it's kind of goofy not like a serious moment I don't think it wasn't goofy in the hobbit movie. They used it in what was supposed to be I can't remember. When did they when did they? What was the scene? It was an extended scene in um Desolation of smalg It's when uh thoren's father dies at dull goldur um He's with gandalf and sauron is in this he's got his black flume And he's in the big thing and sauron's like, you know, I will your light has no power here I am the ultimate darkness and it looks like kind of it's like he's pretty imposing and gandalf's there and he's like, oh you stay away and uh thoren's father not thrower um but his during the thoren's father is behind him and like he he's like, oh my god tell my son that I love him and gandalf's like You shall tell him yourself And then sauron like reaches in and grabs thoren's dad and pulls him in and kills him and we get the willhelm scream And it's like, oh that was you're like going for like a serious kind of moment there And then you did the willhelm scream. So that's kind of fucked up I don't know if it's I I feel like it is such a Prevalent thing that regular movie goers recognize just like oh, that's like the scream that I've heard in other films And it's like it is just a thing that reminds you. Oh, I'm watching a film basically every time you know I'm watching a film and this is like a film easter egg thing. It's a film meme Yeah, well, I try to avoid having my main character have a willhelm scream or a character That's significant too because uh, well usually it's just be like some random dude or something. Yeah Um admit it. This is kind of content that creates a cult classic No No, no the marvels It might create a cult but not not a cult classic. No Watch the boogie 2988 documentary you can tell how much learned helplessness he's cultivated over the years even after the creator clash depressing Um It works. That's just uh, at least it worked a lot for him, but it doesn't work Yeah, yeah, that's the thing it's it's like there's a playbook that he had That used to work a lot because he was perceived as like the jolly fat man who tries to help people Because his life was so hard and he doesn't want them to make the same mistakes But when you keep doing it again and again and again and you just start coming across as more of a slimy Fucking person again. Yeah, it no longer works Yeah I'm all right. No idea you could tank a shotgun shot in amnesia the bunker Insane never seen anyone have such a lengthy fight with le Frenchman Yeah, well, and it's funny too because I figured that he was like supernatural and invincible But one shot to the head and you can kill him Um, I was like, oh, okay. I guess I'll do that The annihilator hates being called that for annihilating indeed Yeah, she says it's so weird, right? To have the trauma of having basically annihilated your entire home world But not really your home world But kind of is because those are the memories you still have and there's people on there who are just as tricked as you were Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. And you Yeah, you look at the damage you've did the amount of people who would have died the civilization You've destroyed all because you were lied to and you were kidnapped There's a lot of trauma there is what I'm getting at and so when someone says the annihilator to you referencing all of that Your reaction really shouldn't be I don't like that name It should be It doesn't address that you earned it You did you were annihilated as civilization It might not make you feel you don't say that back you say like But then it makes you a little bit cranky That's how it comes across. Yeah, she's just like go. Don't call me that I myself just chucked a grenade at him once and found out he's a camping camps in the corner work like a charm I took away the frenchman's one op move retreat. Yeah, because that just shoved in the head I mean most people probably have bullets at that point still We're supposed to believe the civil war was happening during guardians of galaxy one when the nova corps called the creed government to deal with ronan Uh guardians, I think takes place in 2014 in the timeline and two as well We're civil wars 2016 I think they're asking I think when they say civil war they're talking about the creed versus oh during the creed Well, that would have been Captain marvel would that was like in the 90s, right? That was when she went and destroyed the creed Wasn't it because I'm trying to remember now That's when the first movie was set in the mid 90s. So I think she went right back and destroyed it, right? I thought that yeah, I think that's what we're supposed to think So I think because it's meant to be that she basically this is what's happened to the society after like decades of fighting That she destroyed the supreme intelligence that kicked off the war Oh, and then but that would have been happening while guardians was happening. Yeah And um and ronan is uh, he's creed. So I guess he had no perspective on that Well, it just didn't come up because it didn't happen at that point No, it was something that was made up after it's Jesus. Yeah, it's always Also with end game rules With end game rules shouldn't the blip have saved harlow Uh It wouldn't have made the atmosphere any less poisoned or anything, right? I guess it would have completely changed the nature of the war though of half of the people disappeared And they'd be half the consumption of the resources But that's the problem is that the blip is just this thing that happens in the middle of the timeline That they don't want you to think about anymore But like every single character that you meet every new character and every set of events that Is said to have been taking place over the last however many years 50 of those people didn't exist for five years Are they I think they think they've just taken care of it They've accounted for it. They referenced it a couple times in movies every once in a while We might mention that it happened and you know what done Yeah, that's how they feel it's done Uh, if there's no e-fap next week This is the last one for me for seven weeks because of air force basic training. So if not, I'll see you all mid january Good luck. Have fun flying those planes. I think you said that more than one time But we've also got his return message. So Yeah, that's true. He made it back. He did like, you know what now I've learned all the things You are a superior human now Yeah, welcome back. Uh, so I was gonna see this last night But my roommate my roommate is having a cancer scare heading to theater to watch the shit show now Hopefully you're still going when it's over. Can I get a fuck you cancer? Oh, yeah, fuck you cancer Yeah, I hope everything turns out okay. Absolutely Cancer's a bitch and it feels like a bit of a unfair one to throw on earth, you know It's like, why do we have what can we just not have that one? Just it's so you'd appreciate not having cancer molly. Oh Imagine buying 20th century fox and wasting it. Oh, dude, they had so many ip's they can use but then the second they use them It's all terrible anyway. Yeah Guys the planet told her to smile what follows is in continuity with previous exchanges Oh, yeah, I mean if the planet told her to smile and she can destroy it. I think that's fair I think that's her too returning the violence If you teleport with whoever and whatever you're grabbing couldn't monica go into space with a suit Wait for carol to grab the lady and then teleport her into space killing the villain super easily So your problem is you're thinking about how the rules might be working here. Uh, we don't think about that This is not the place. Why do you hate? superhero movies This is unacceptable. It's just funny because carol could insta kill the boss Throughout the entire movie. They just avoid addressing that until the end where she does that Well, one of the things that I like to keep doing in the film is they always have her either grab onto the band Or fire the laser at the band When I mean there's so many places like if you aimed for her legs, what's she gonna do? Is she gonna lean down just punch you? Don't use any of those powers. Just use physical punch here Well, yeah, she can do that. But then the problem is that the film keeps making her grab the fucking thing. She keeps grabbing it Marvel's mr. Khan the only action figure with collecting Mr. Khan family the family Well, they said mr. Khan specifically. Oh, I guess okay Yeah, he seemed all right I mean, it's kind of like funny because um in the miss marvel show the mum Is probably the best character in that and I feel like she's probably the best character in um the marvels as well Because everybody else is a goober Like she's yeah, I think the family is three is pretty normal people. Yeah, and I don't think there is really Much that, you know, she even really do wrong So question if the rule that they have to use their powers at the same time didn't exist Would the film be any more coherent? I guess slightly because the It seems to be that they're they don't seem to be using it consistently and the rules are kind of changing on it So it does add a level of incoherency to it Well, the thing is is that if it was random It would just start becoming insanely convenient that it keeps happening at times and either make for more drama or save the day Yeah, the fact that it's random would be incoherent too I think it would just create different kinds of problems because the problem that it has now is it just doesn't It doesn't make then it's semi-accurate rules are I guess more coherent than Completely at random. So maybe technically But can goose be our wingman? I get it Yeah Um, I was working. I don't get it. What do you mean? Oh, do you haven't seen top gun then? Oh, no, I haven't okay top gun reference ah I was working at the theaters on Friday and there was a 3d the marvels that was completely empty Oof and my largest was 16 in a room fitting 250 I think wine was empty I can't remember it might it was either empty or maybe there was like one person I think there's only one person in my theater What a sad day for the marvels, eh? Does the bangles make you walk like an egyptian? You'd hope so be cool. You're best by the movie But Norway has a space launch facility in the north for polar orbits. The main thing is to not have pollu Pollulated areas nearby populate populated. I assume that is true though. Uh, when you do your launches I think that's why like in america they send it You know from florida over the ocean Uh, well, it's a variety of factors on the one hand the closer you can get to the equator the better It's why everything in america happens in texas or florida or why Like a lot of european stuff. I think goes from uh from south america. I can't remember the name but it's one of the french it's like french Uh territory they do a lot of theirs there and then of course over the ocean because shit's gonna drop or it could explode And you would much rather have that happen and over the ocean than above land I guess it would be maybe in relation to the the idea of the space elevator Like that there was a space elevator going to uh Saber that was in like new york, which I mean, you know, it's science fiction Right and science fiction you can find ways to have I don't know like find some kind of system to have a space elevator That isn't above the equator Obviously they provide no explanation in in the marvel. So yeah, it's just sort of a thing that's there It seems like it kind of it stands out as being particularly like. Oh, can we do this? Is that a thing? Well, especially in the marvel world, that's a huge development, right? We've gone from the helical area was the most impressive like piece of technology human technology And now it's at a point it's kind of like the worst of both worlds on the one hand Like sabre is incredibly impressive But on the other hand, this is the marvel universe where there should have been an amount of collaboration between earth and other Like alien worlds to where sabre really shouldn't even be that impressive at all They even did this in the um, the independence day remake of the the sequel They had all the humans had all the energy guns from the alien technology Which um, yeah that that I mean so many people died though Like there's no way the humanity would have recovered like that in the span of only, you know, a couple decades Uh, springy is from the nor dimension No, no, I'm not Oh, all right fair enough. I had more dimension that was from uh That's from this marvel that didn't even get brought up Didn't even get brought up in this film Animal fact herbivores don't exist Everything believed to be one consume me regularly 99% of the go out of their way to get it and prefer it to live I don't believe you I don't believe you I know that there are certain circumstances where an herbivore will eat another animal But those are Glasses because they have their own stomachs like the ruminant thing That's why they eat the grass because they can actually they're evolved in such a way that they're uniquely predisposed to digesting it Because I've seen like I've seen a deer munching on a snake and a squirrel Munching on a bird, but like those are the those are like things special cases. Um, it's not like That's what that's Right, like for instance, that's all I eat. Yeah. Well, let's just see you can lift this Yeah, like I yeah, I just don't believe that Like that doesn't that doesn't sound right to me at all because we have the category omnivore for animals that eat meat and uh plants So yeah That just sounds absurd That there's no herbivores Ratchet and clank made take resources and pieces of the planet make more sense The planets would lose celestial balance so to speak and spiral into the sun Yes, chairman drax plan was he was creating a new planet by just ripping chunks out of other planets And like he said, you know, this will cause the unfortunate side effect of your planet spiraling into the sun But sacrifices must be made And his whole plan was he was going to create new planets sell a bunch of real estate on it and then destroy those planets And then build new planets to repeat the cycle Chairman drax, he was a bad man What a jerk Uh, just so remember me in season one of angel. I liked it a lot. Do you remember that one for me? Uh, no, I uh Damn it No, I don't think I do exactly It relates to time Getting reset at the end I think any more might be a bit spoilery. I think I know what I know. Yeah. I know. I know what that one is. Yeah White a sad one That is a sad episode Uh rip maria brambo Oh, yeah, I guess she's dead. She died. She died a long time in wonder vision. Yeah Rags black girl magic Uh Wow momentum a function of mass and velocity is conserved between portals in layman's terms speedy thing goes in speedy thing comes out And I'm referring to the plot where uh when they were falling down to earth and then they switched like I just landed even though they established the opposite several times but oh well Yeah Also, what was what was carol doing? What the fuck was she doing? I don't know that she was right there in front of a bunch of bad guys I love this movie I especially love the part where dark helmet goes to ludicrous speed to catch captain marvel but got stopped by black girl magic Yeah, I mean spaceballs makes more sense. It has like better structural writing of a story than most of the new Marvel movies now that is just What do you think about I guess I shouldn't take away from the fact that most comedies do have like great comedies have really good story writing as well because It's like valuable Yeah, he was too greedy in the shoulder room Well, yeah, definitely those shoulders a peak fire Doesn't he say Using both bands together is safer Yes, he says you'll have more control with with just one band. It's less Isn't it easy to control It blows her up. It's so funny With relativity especially with close to light speed movement events happening at the same time isn't a thing except in the small reference Except in the same reference frame, sorry I'm sure this is really interesting All right, I'm guessing it would be to do with the idea of events happening You know planets like solar systems apart that the idea that the time would be running at the same time It's like well would it though? Because of relativity I see You remember an interstellar how like when they were with the black hole, but the time was moving dramatically Uh faster, right? I know isn't it up to you at that point as a sci-fi writer to say. Yeah. Well, they're the same in these two places Also, I'll be right be it The way you describe the cutoff between character development in the plot reminds me of quantum mania Do we ever get any resolution on moniker's resentment for carol? Because that was a nuanced development set up back in wandavision. I actually liked nope They just uh, they established they've got an issue and then they get solved Do you remember they they have that meeting in the cornfield and it mostly just they're just like eh Um, if you look at the trailer there are scenes we didn't see with them arguing I assume there was more to it and it got cut um I'm not sure I understand how this sort of stuff happens you'd think that if you're gonna cut stuff It wouldn't be the character payoffs, but You know what you're gonna do Um, every time I saw darban give a speech without the hero's attacking is the perfect definition of if the character is not on screen They are on pause yeah I just think I said she was easy to defeat throughout the whole film But a lot of people just aren't allowed to do what they normally do. Hello efap gang. Hello I sent in a super chat sometime ago about my dog her health is much improved Just wanted to pass along some good news among the marvel sludge Very glad to hear that Happy to hear it. Also happy veterans day. Hi rags Hello Is darban's shoulders the shoulders of the mcu the guy from last week was talking about Perhaps They they managed to make it into an actual shoulder shoulder piece beautiful The rags mohler nuts and especially fringy. I hope you all have a grand Thanksgiving Please review a cool movie that you enjoy Well, we did name a cool movie that we enjoy No, they said please review one, but we did we did um, okay Uh, Troy. That's a cool movie. Yeah, that's neat. I like Troy. There you go. Troy was fun Um, all right. Just go home from work. I can only imagine all the crispy tism That's already been gone over hoping for a long boy Yeah, how did how long did we go like five hours of the marvels one? It wasn't as bad as quantamania, but Only probably because the fact that it was shortened to two hours that film at maximum Was less than that right 80 minutes, was it? But what was the marvels? How long was the marvels? Uh, I think it was an hour and a half Yeah, I think I was thinking it was mercifully short Uh, kursgizak's earth vid shows how unique earth is billions of years of specific chemical reactions to make it the life-supporting planet it is today Pretty neat in it Yeah, we are we are very fortunate um But in the mcu almost every planet another universe is occupied by oxygen breathing humans cool disney really cool I'll also play ddlc dumbo's Yep, it's boring. Well, yeah, they'd not They they they clearly didn't want to explore like doing interesting things with how the world would have It's like generic. It was just like, yeah, they're just there and they they're a different kind I guess the funny thing is they could probably get away with making all the planets earth like But not having them all be human beings, but they're all humans. They're just humans or they're humans, but oh It's so lame Who smiles less in their own movie man of steel or plank of wood? Hmm I think uh, I think captain marvel smiles a few times in this movie Yeah, just find a scene where she's with her friends or whatever. She'll smile in those Mm-hmm man of steel. He doesn't have any reason to smile. It's like smiling with like a like Well, he sees I don't know. He probably is like Yo, I like you um Mom even though I'm gonna call myself cal-l But I don't know Also salutations k9 named after a used piece of cloth That I guess it's me. You don't have to use the piece of cloth for it to be a rag That is true There has to be more than one of them though There are like at least one thousand gates. How does adding three gates affect it like with one thousand? That's an increase of a zero point three percent And that's assuming that there's only a thousand I thought their logic was the it's not necessarily the number It's just that creating them in places that are unstable or with an unstable creation Right like with one, um They change they go back and forth in the film. I think it's that but also the number right Howdy massives played doc descent for the first time last month and other than falling through the map at one point It was great rat. It's only to play the not horror game looking forward to it. Yeah, friggin. You're doing doc descent this halloween, right? Uh, I suppose I might That'll be fun Rags, are you gonna play the bunker this halloween? Maybe I might I don't know if maybe if uh because it's still a way uh a while away Maybe there will be a game that comes out that we all want to take a look at And do an e-fap on but I don't want to call it yet because it's still a long way to halloween Well, I mean it's mostly just you should just play it anyway because it's good. Oh, is it? Okay the bunker The bunker should have done a cat scan of the eggs Well, they they super future they could have done anything they they would have found out everything they needed to know But fuck it, you know Or they should have maybe brought up like oh, we don't know what they are We the impenetrable the scans and stuff like that which is like, oh, I don't know if I believe you but like whatever At least you need to Rags risk of rain one just got a remake try it Which remake sorry rags risk of rain one just got a remake try it I might I really like risk of rain two, but I never played the first one Uh as someone who loves dancing very energetically at clubs I was genuinely insulted at how exhausted monica looked after doing almost nothing Maybe she did a lot and it got cut because yeah, she does a little grandma Like back and forth and then she's like catching a breath And it's like what the hell happens she's also an energy person. She's like not a person person I don't does she get tired? I don't know. I guess so I don't know how it works Humanity lost has no humanoid aliens. It's cool. Hi frog Oh, hi, I think they're making the same commentary When uh, why am I daughter just called saying the same thing you guys were saying about the genocide She's graduating from cinema cinema sinning to full-on mohler induced rages. Oh my goodness Is it only natural? Captain marvel used black girl magic. It's super effective captain marvel won the argument Yes, she did Statute statue of liberty no longer has cap caps america shield Did it not get knocked off during no way home? It did but you figure that they would just put it back up But I guess they just decided to fuck it whatever Lurkins are now literally exactly like Kirby It's really fun and cute and great. Okay All right, it's a really great idea the the flurkins That was like a really good idea that we needed to have a lot more of in this film Look, it's a cat, but it's a fucking alien PSA don't keep watching new marvel movies poop watch agents of shield instead tasty I was never that tempted by agents of shield Me either. Did you watch any of it? No, I haven't seen any and it's seven seasons so it's been so long Yes, it is All the comments on facebook for this movie are cringe Well I tell which ones are real I know that there's an attempt like the the rotten tomato stuff and the The efforts from marvel to try and move past this but also make it seem like it is worthwhile because ultimately They've spent a bazillion dollars on it. It's like IRL there's brain disorder and it prevents speech but not singing Oh, you mean like there's a thing that can make it so that you can't speak but you can sing Really? Yeah, I guess the whole planet had that mental disorder Oh, I can believe it. This is the brain view right like in terms of You can have such fuck ups the You know Roots argument then with Pinocchio Or something that when he sings that's what's happening in his brain. It's not registering a speech So he wasn't lying I don't know if we I think they're just talking about the singing planet on Oh, I know that I'm just saying that it applies here with with Pinocchio. Maybe he's got that What a bizarre choice Of the singing planet just thinking about it. Yeah, damn What a what an odd That thought it was really funny. They did think it was I guess they thought that would be hilarious for whatever reason Crazy, I was crazy once they locked me in a room a room with marbles marbles made me crazy crazy I think they're losing their mind I bet the sun's not even hot. It's all propaganda from big sun You do wonder you do wonder. I think it's just a big bulb And when it goes dark, it's just the bulb, you know using out and they got to go switch it Bro, they ripped that sun ending from the all-star superman and that superman sacrifices himself to save the sun still silly But at least soups died man That ending is hilarious with the capital if she could have done it she could have done it the whole time That's what's so funny about that. That was definitely a way shoot When the dying sun is brought up, I can't help but think they ripped off pokemon where nekro nekrosma stole all the light from ultra megalopolis Okay, nekrosma pokemon Yeah, I don't recognize that one Yeah, that's uh, that's a generation seven Let me show you this. Let me show you this uh, this edgy boy. Oh my god Did you see this lad? Did you see nekrosma? He's so edgy. Look at all those edges. Look that looks like shit What is that, man? From super that's not finished like he's You're like, so what is this like the concept for his Some kind of weird helmet No, this is him That looks awful Okay Well, they copied him Uh, we gave them all a full dose of planet sillan Hey, man, she did the right thing in the end to save to everybody. Okay Maybe you did pop a few pain killers though That would help out probably with the civil war and everything in all star superman doing what captain marvel did killed him Yeah, but captain marvel is more powerful than superman You should take him You take almost everybody except gaya and I guess wander Yeah, I got. Hmm. I guess she loses to wander, right? Well, it's up to the writer at the time whether or not that's the case because remember as long as wander's caught off god I guess she loses Wow, but I thought she was a glass cannon, but she would stood like massive explosions in uh, She would stood lies Please listen to sakre black and the queef secretions I'm not listening to anything called the queef secretions. Yeah, I'll pass. That's all right though The story definitely starts with a lot of setup and ends with a conclusion one of the movies of all time Also, will gaya use her powers to swap her? I mean, I guess it probably does have some setups, right? There are some I guess probably Uh, gaya wouldn't be involved because the reason they connect is because captain marvel touches the portal Monica touches the portal and then the bangles were made to create the portals So they automatically get intertwined, which is why it's a problem the darben. I wouldn't uh Oh, I guess yeah, because I guess she just took it off. She wasn't wearing it That's I guess the explanation, but that would just be a huge lucky coincidence at that point uh, yeah The worst is Thor 4 turning one of your best heroes into a complete idiot and marking male victims of sexual assault without Disgusting flick scene Um, as the worst, I mean, even if you're going by individual scenes, we've got we've got a heavy set of contenders Like this we're talking about a huge olympic games in terms of the worst moment in like all of the mcu There's a lot of you you pick that but it's like, I mean, I'm not even saying this is the worst But I feel like that's defeated already just by the black widows Burying the prison in snow, you know, like I feel like that's worse It's like well, yes, that's an eight four characters at once Yeah, that's pretty bad. Um But I think the number one moment will probably be I mean to do with the blip. I'm assuming Yeah, something and gam related probably Extinct animal of the day my legalis the most metal of groundhogs Yeah Just I'm copying pasting it into google because A lot of oh, I got a the result of a watch. That's probably not right I don't what the extinct animal of the day is a watch Yeah, I don't know if that's true, but I don't like those anymore It's got a did you mean It's got some renderings. Yes. This is probably an extinct gopher Um That can That's the best I can do in terms of assuming what this creature is looks kind of neat He's got two big horns coming out of his snoop there Look at him go He's a little aggressive, but maybe this is just an unusual time for him photo-wise I think he looks better than necrosis He does look better than necrosis. I'd like a movie about this guy Not stealing the sun or anything like that or whatever the fuck he does in megalopolis, but Just this guy Going around being like oh man I need to build a dam Something something you hate women. I guess true probably yeah What do you think about the time stone being green because Loki is the god of time trust the process kevin feige I can't even begin to take that seriously. It's unbelievable It really is like the idea that everyone was praising that as some incredible thing like oh it makes so much sense because Green is green. It's like man. Like it really does seem like you guys discovered colors yesterday Doesn't make any fucking sense. Anyway, it's like oh the reality stone is red because of wander. So what are you talking about? What's happening? It's like he's the god of time now. He's reset everything and he's the time of stone It's like if you could just keep running that logic all over the place while all the stones green Mm-hmm. Fuck you I'm interested in this insane shit We get all this crappy writing for the characters and the world and the story and the plot and then and then it's just like Oh, yeah, but this green Like that's that's writing. They're the same color Yeah, I work at the cinema we have already stopped showing it the autism league had a private screening of the movie No one else has seen it The marvels damn But on the wake at jeez so no maybe Farewell and adieu to you massive fleamish massives farewell and adieu you massive fleamish of fleams massives of fleam Fleamin and flumen Who would you guys say are your fnt counterparts personally? I'd say malls is gary rags is ryan or az and then I don't know about fringy I have no idea. I'm I don't know the dynamic is a It's a different show It's a Yeah, counterpart. Well, I mean the main difference being that there's three hosts here and there's there's a lot more than three on that That's right. We gotta so I'm not sure how I would uh figure out who If one was to say like mall is gary. It's like because we're the hosts. I guess The host he hosts like you know, it's just like I don't know there's not much of I feel like everyone's so different that to connect them would only be through like vague connections Uh It's remembering sunday be kiff. Were you respectful? They meant remembrance Yeah, yeah, I mean, of course I think so The empire is never more alive than when we sleep no sleeping guys cover more negative reviews of andor too many people sleep on andor cough Yeah, fuck them I mean true, but also if you push too hard, you'll be seen as cringe and you'll do more damage to andor than helping it That's right You can't base you can't make your identity just going against things. You got to be able to You know talk about things merits, but I'm sure we will talk more about Ika was right then Yeah, you can't destroy what something loves say the things you hate kiss Well, guess what rags would have said to her is why not both though? Yeah, but why not both we have this is a war woman Well, lead fringoid. Oh well led fringoid. I think they meant meme keep that And uh oops for meme and his cat and the final message I subscribed Oh, thanks. Yeah, thanks for the subscription Well, hopefully that answered your your inquisitive minds as regards to our coverage of the marvels And uh, we appreciate the kind messages and donations we shall catch you guys in the next efep thing whatever it may be. Bye. Bye Bye everybody. Bye. Bye