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Everybody Same thing so music I don't know who XO is but shout out to music Shit kind of fired Mad Max is on the beat man I would grab a beat got into the XO XO came back with a banger That's a banger. I like that the person shouldn't be about three anytime. I do something I get her cuz I know already She the champ man. Yeah Just look up you'll see us freestyling this whole she went dumb up in there Yeah, she'll she'll she'll stand up right there where you sitting and just go in that was a vibe So, man, thank you man for coming all the way down here to be on boss talk 101 man You from New York to Texas man Yeah, it'll stand up who the thought old country boy man I have somebody to fly in and just hang out with him and yeah, man. Just just thank you so much man Thank you. Thank you for having me man And this is an honor just to be here in Dallas man so far, you know, I'm loving the food down here man It's my first time Is first time to yeah, I got some good food Down here in Texas so far my boy my boy bully he um straight out of Minneapolis. Um, what have you eaten? I ate we some um, first of all, he put me up on some Oysters fried grilled oysters grilled oysters Oh my god, listen You don't have that Hey, no, listen, I would not eat no oysters from nowhere me either Yeah, but these went in oh my god, bro It wasn't slimy and all that no it was it was the season it was the Cheese in there. It tastes it was something different. It don't even taste like oysters Wow, yeah, the oysters can it was big that's hard Yeah, I got you know there you guys you gotta show me what it's at Yeah Yeah already Yeah, now a miss jamaica. Let's turn into it. So you're born and raised in No, I was uh, I was actually born in Haiti in Haiti. I was born in Port-au-Prince was uh, that's like the capital I was actually raised in um, Los Angeles. Oh, how old were you when you went to Los Angeles? Um I was like five so do you remember anything about Haiti? Yeah. Yeah, I remember I was asking because I find a lot of people don't remember that I know you probably go back and forth, but I'm talking like from the young age Nah, I haven't been since I was a kid, but I remember um, because um, you know, I lost my mother When I was like three four Yeah, yeah, so that's how I was able to um to come here. Yeah to stay in the states Okay, so but your dad was where was from california. Oh, yeah, he's from Los Angeles Okay, so he was Where part of california, Los Angeles south central, but my father's a well-known um Uh, reputable gangster from the streets. He was like a blood from LA. Really? Yeah, he was like a known everybody knows him Everybody knows my father. Do you mind saying his name or you can't call him Al? Evil Al? Evil Al Evil Al everybody Pretty much anybody that's from LA about him. They're gonna tell you about evil Al. Oh everybody. Um Um, I heard like a lot of stories about him like far as like, you know during the death row days Yeah, you know, he was like He's like the he was the he was the one of them guys And how long did you stay in LA? I grew up there. I grew up in LA and um, um, throughout the years, you know, once I got like, um So I got shot. So I I've been shot Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We grew up in LA. I grew up in LA. Yeah And you and your dad was he hard on you or did he know how you ended up not being any banging in the game? So so so this I was I I came I ended up gang banging, but look so my father was in prison Okay, how long most of my majority of my life So he did like let's say I don't know the exact amount of years So he did let's say 17 18 years And then he was only out for three months and got killed So hold on so hold on because you moved to LA with him. So before he so When I was young, you know, my mother and my family came from Haiti like we traveled throughout the states Like, you know, I was we was like, I don't I can't tell you like when I was real young We're exactly we lived and we stayed when I was like young but when we made it to california You know, um, that's why that's that's my mother Death that's where she died. Oh, she died in california. Yes. How did she die? She was killed. She was murdered So both your parents were killed execution style Wow, my mother was brutally murdered like rape shot stabbed All that wow Sorry to hear about that Do you have siblings? Um, yeah, I got a sibling out here in dallas. That's one of the part of the reasons why I'm here in dallas. So That's your mom. No, my my dad's daughter daughter, yeah So I got a sister that I haven't met, you know, I'm saying like we we're older younger. She's younger. She's younger Yeah, but she's she's a grown woman. She was married and stuff like that So, uh, you know, I got a sister on my father's side. We haven't met and um, I got a um, a brother on my mother's side He's in Atlanta Wow, yeah, so But we like I say, I'm not close to neither one of them. Like you know, I'm saying we like I said y'all weren't raising the same Exactly. So my my mother was murdered when I was three. So um Me and him me and my brother got different dad. So boom. He was his dad, you know his side And then my sister she we got different mothers. You say brother older than you are younger. No, he's younger He's younger. So we we we all got different moms and dads and stuff like that So we was not close, you know, we was all separated type shit, you know, I mean I grew up in foster care pretty much Wow, yeah, I grew up in foster care And the state took over me the state when you you know, both parents, you know, father in prison and mom gone and State so you are able to get your citizenship as soon as you got here then pretty much Because if you said soon after your dad went to prison, he was already when that happened with my mom I believe he was in prison when he was in prison when that happened Yeah, okay, and I believe him I believe From my understanding the reason of that happening to my mom was like a situation where She saw something that she wasn't supposed to see You know what I'm saying like I she now have nothing to do. She's Haitian She don't she's not even from a man. She just was at the wrong place at the wrong time type of situation That's what I Truly believe like to this day now like she was just like a person there and back in them times It was like No leave no witnesses type of type of situation You know, and and you know, you just got caught up in a A situation where you know, like I said, man, you know, I'm just happy that we got to meet you And and I know through all of it, you know, it seemed like it's crazy But at the end of the day Some reason you still here and you still got you doing things that people haven't well never in any life I thought about that when I was coming up here Just some of the things that you share with me off the camera The things you're doing or or even Thank you and and keep on pulling that fresh as we get into this interview But man, you know to lose a parent. I don't have my parents as well But I got to spend time with them until I turn 20, you know, but you know I mean when one person think, oh man, I'm going through it If somebody out there were the worst of case, I think back to shout out to mayhem Who he's a twin brother him and his brother twins and his mom and his dad his dad was murdered I believe at his four months old and his mom before It may have been mom at four months and then the dad at like a year like and they from LA So think about that and they stayed in the park. They never met them So they had two identical twins and it was more of them But they ended up having to grow up like that Yeah, that's crazy like I don't know how to tell you that story because we think sometimes like our story, but there's always somebody else Going through worse most definitely and and we always got to keep that in mind when we think about our what's it man But there's some more people out there that don't want you so much, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but just um Man, I commend you bro. Yeah, so when you when did you get into the music? Like when you know that you was uh, like you gonna be a Rapper, okay, so so let me tell you me tell you so my father got songs on youtube I just found this out like what yeah, they put him on youtube. So back in the day He was rapping. He was rapping. He was like, I'm gonna be real What's that his name on there? No, he got songs with his home. Let me explain to you. So back in the day I'm gonna be real. I'm gonna just be real. My dad was a bully. Okay My dad like a la everybody my dad was like the like he made sugar night pay for like All the bloods tv's and prison like he was like the bully Like him like and I'm just gonna I'm gonna tell you like he like shouldn't like wife my dad like would like Have her will have her for like three months four months and he'll give her back to shug and shit like that Really? Really? Yeah, so my pops was so they was together and then he just get with this. It was like I can't explain it, bro But he was running thing. Yeah, so you got realized your sugar wasn't no sane. I mean he had But you gotta understand like shug wasn't like you got shug but that he was like Like no understand, but you gotta understand it was people above him, of course You get what I'm saying like my dad dudes like him. Yeah, my father. Yeah So so I remember things when I was kid like a kid and like certain stuff like, you know And then I got like people right now to this day like usually I have to ask the streets and they'll tell you You know I'm saying the streets. Oh, I am gonna ask them. I know people say evil. Wow dog They're gonna be like evil. Al dog evil Al. They're gonna tell you to say evil Yes, he is the guy is my pops. It's a true story based on the true story. So like, um, so so basically what happened when me was, um You know, I'm from the opposite side where my dad from my dad was a blood I come from Hoover like the Yeah, Bobby Johnson Hoover doos. Yeah, that's why That needed to show that move it there. I'm walking. Yeah, so so that's why I'm from that's why I grew up at That's what my um, you know my grandfather got When I was young my grandfather, um, got a apartment from my mother over there And um 79th and Hoover and that's why I kind of came about and stuff like that and they make a long story short I just found out my pops wrapped, you know, a couple of his Um partners from his hood since showing me like links and stuff on youtube where my father was rapping I didn't know where it came from. Let me ask you something. Is a Hoover a crib? Well, the far deuces is you got Hoover is real big. It's a lot of us. It's like Eight different clicks. It's just like eight different extensions. So it's like the five doos originally we are crips. Yes But the five deuces are still original original crips the five doos Hoover's is still original crips But you got the five deuces five nine seven four eight train nine doos nine four one or seven Let me do is I got a more tether right here on my arm to all of them right here. See I got a more Every Hoover click on my arm. That's five doos five nine seven four eight train nine doos nine four one or seven 11 doos I go all up you go to like like if you go to jail, they they start looking at that immediately It is what it is, man. I'm from one front and I'm not turning down nothing and it's just what it's going to be Wow, so you know me you straight up like I'm from where I'm from. That's what you're trying to do Yeah, that's what it is. I'm straight. I'm from the streets for sure. So if a person do I gotta ask you this and I'm glad I'm not no game When you was banging when I was banging in you don't bang now that's fine I've been shot five times for Hoover Street. I got Hoover everywhere to the blasted everywhere I've been shot five times five times. You did work five times. I done When you were uh Hoover and you was active active. Yeah Did y'all respect people from other other states like Texas hoovers? Well, yeah, I got you see what I'm saying I got homies from houston. Hoover is real big in houston. Like I don't know what it is in uh dallas out here But Hoover is real big in houston. Like, you know, you got people from the fifth war That's from Hoover got people that's part of you know, how do you know that because I'm from Hoover for real So like what I'm saying is we're real deep So you got people that's really from houston. That's from Hoover that really tap in with la that go to la and that's being on Hoover street They from houston and they from texas, but they come they come they go they come fuck with niggas in la So you gotta You got them you got them dudes. That's really into the streets, bro You got dudes that you got you sound like you got people that That care about Hoover that don't care about no nothing else. You got people that care about Hoover more than they own family Yeah, you know, I'm gonna be real with you my dad. He was a blood. He he cared about blood more than his own kids He was a die move. That's what he stood on. That's what he died about. That's what he every day living People don't you got you got dudes. That's like that That's why you can't just be came you can't come out here disrespect the people hoods and communities because people Would die for that, bro So you cannot get it you can't you can't you can't be out here doing all of that, bro People people stand on what they stand on, bro. They don't care about going to jail. They don't care about Nothing they care about Hoover and they will knock you down for that for that. I believe it So we gotta we gotta get into it now. That's real. So let's talk about the first time you got shot I got shot in my hood every every time I got shot was in my hood. So I um why in your hood you think that you'd be protected six foot. No, but you think that you'd be protected I'm six foot nine. I'm six foot nine. I'm six. I'm six eight and a half In between both of them If uh, so just imagine this, okay, so growing up You know how it was easy for like the dudes on the block to sell work and get that off or sell weed Whatever they was doing. I can do that shit because I stand now. I'm too damn tall Exactly. The police see me down the street. Look at this tall motherfucker right here. They go. They go see me Yeah, so it's certain shit that I couldn't do That nigga is getting caught every time everybody else get away. Yeah This big tall nigga trying to run as hell. This big stupid motherfucker right here. You know we know he is him. It's this big stupid motherfucker. You probably wasn't fast enough. No, I'm doing, I play college football. Hold on, we're gonna talk about it. That's all right. So before I got shot up, so I uh So my first time I got shot. Um, I was in my hood. You know what I'm saying? I was like, um This was like the summer of this was like I was in high school But this the summer of when you finished high school like it was that summer Getting ready to go to college. Yeah that summer. You know what I'm saying? So um You know and I and this it wasn't for you. It wasn't for me. So let me explain to you. So so what happened was It's this dude, right? So he come over. He's not from my hood. So he come over He see his he's he's gonna see his baby mama. So I I see him. You know, he say what's up to me every time Okay, he not from around here boom One day one of my homeboys that's not from my hood. He's chilling in my he's chilling in my hood with me He robbed the dude what? He robbed the dude right in front of me So the dude has a dude getting robbed. He looking at me like me gonna let him rob me I'm a young dude at the time, but I'm not in that business, bro. That ain't got nothing to do with me You're getting robbed. That's on you. Well, that's that's how I was. I'm not about to save you or nothing So he looking at me like come on, bro. You see me all the time every day You letting this nigga rob me? I wasn't looking at it like that. So he came back shooting He came back shooting and he shot me Because you was around that I was right. He felt like bro. Come on, bro. You see me stop. Yeah, I should have stopped it right Right, exactly. You could have stopped. I could have stopped it But I I'm one of them dudes that one of my my own business. I ain't got nothing to do with that That's only I wanted them doing that time. I was like that You know I'm saying and I I didn't really have a super personal relationship with this dude Yeah, I seen him. He go see his baby. Mommy was cool. That's it. But you know You ain't from Hoover. You ain't from Hoover. You ain't from Hoover, nigga. You know what I mean? So I'm not about to That's Hoover. They got you over there and I know them dudes. Come on. So you didn't see coming So he came back the very next morning. I'm talking about I got shot every time I got shot was in the morning Oh bright and early. I got shot like at seven in the morning Taking out the trash so you didn't see it Man, he came in the morning time. So oh, so you you It was Because I seen his ass he come out the one you like It was like a movie. I got shot right here in the shoulder. I can show you but I got a bullet You can see it's kind of like sticking out my back right here. So it came out So no the first time I got shot was right here through my right here through my shoulder boom And they came out you went to the doctor went to the hospital and I got checked out No, he discharged me the same day. It didn't hit no vital organ. No, thank god Thank god And then that was that one time that was that was I got shot. Did you see him again after that? Hell no, he ain't never came back around here. His his baby mama moved out Everything they left No, they knew what time he like now I ain't even got to play play with these little over niggas over here Let's get let's get this thing. You came back like he posed to Yeah, he had to come back So what they robbing photo do you know There's some bush in the wall Some dumb he was just coming over to see his baby mama regular shit So as he getting robbed the homie like, you know, you don't give me your wallet. Check your pockets. Check his pockets I'm sitting here looking like Like he dropping this shit out this day I'm looking like there He wasn't around you know Homie that was robbing him ain't from Hoover. He was just a homie that You should have stopped it, bro. Yeah You knew you were wrong after what but the homie that was robbing. He was like older than me You know what I'm saying? I was cool with him. You know, I kind of looked up to him. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I didn't really I could have been like come on man. I know dude, you know, it was just like a tight situation So I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't get your lesson from it Yeah, I learned a lesson. I learned a hell of a lesson from the next time you guys shot Also, boom that was that first time boom the second time this now the second time was all in one You know what I'm saying? So I got shot one time One one shot boom straight through the second time. I got shot four times. Whoa Yeah, I'm gonna die this time around this hole. I almost died this time. You sound like 50. Yeah cross range. Yeah No, I don't even know who so this what happened was the the the second time I was um, I went out to a um What are y'all called like a um Like a um This one was meant for you this time. What are y'all called like out here in Dallas You know how y'all got like the You know, everybody got them like they little hole in wall places where like the og places like they play like they can bed Like gamble and shit like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's just you can do that strip club too But you but they got I've seen that like the old ghetto club. Yeah, like no It don't even gotta be a club. They just be like a little spot where they just got a pooter. They call it a club It ain't no club. Okay. Okay. Okay. You know what I'm saying one like a hole in the wall Yeah, I don't know what y'all calling out here It's just a hole in the wall, but it's it's it's definitely a little low just a little knockoff Club, but it's not a club people just go there to hang out. Okay. Yeah, that's that's dice Whatever you want to do over there So so boom I go out to this little spot in Englewood, California I go to this little hole in the wall little club boom boom boom. We have a crazy night boom Anyway, I step I'm like, yo, I'm about to go say peace out to um I'm losing like probably like around like three or four in the morning. So like we just left this little hole in the wall spot So I'm gonna say stop by I'm in a turf Say what's up to people say good night close when I so making long story short I'm walking out the I'm working out this I'm walking out the little spot boom in my hood I'm walking out this little spot in my hood Soon as I walk out Like it was like a movie so keep in mind It was a shell catcher a a shell catcher And a silencer. So I was getting hit. So imagine getting hit four times Maybe like in the four in the morning three four in the morning every time it was and you just You just get hit. Yeah, but nobody came a nigga next to you can't even hear you getting hit You know they remind me of that movie where a wheel smelting his son his son was after him. What was that movie? Huh? Yeah, yeah, that ain't that right when you get here on that bike you hear the bike, but then you can hear the Goods. Yeah. So when I was getting hit I'm crawling and niggas is like like the so so I So it's a it's a crazy story. So I crawl I dial 911 for my phone. Hell yeah, I'm like y'all I'm here. I'm on wool and vermin avenue. That's an l.a south Central l.a I'm on wool vermin ever so my homies my homies wasn't thinking my homies they you know my one I know like one of my homies got back cracking busted On the on the car that you know, shut up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So I'm I'm on the ground looking as the homies just Shooting at the car like I'm just looking like but I'm shot the fuck up, but I'm looking I'm still aware. I'm I'm drunk too. Thank god. I was drunk too. Yeah, cuz you didn't really yeah Yeah, I didn't I didn't I thank god. I was drinking. That's why I drink to this day. Yeah, so you didn't feel no, but Blaming on anything That's why I drank to this day. No, nigga, you drinking because you like to drink But I was drinking and and thank it kept me calm. You know what I'm saying? He poses they come and it kept me calm and it kept me. You know what I'm saying? So, um So boom, so then I'm not okay. So my homies they carry me and put me in the car So I'm waiting for the paramedics The home so when they put me in their car the car got put for um, what you call for evidence evidence There you have evidence for evidence. So they had to take their car. So I'm like damn, bro Like, you know, my bad, you know, I mean, I didn't mean to get your car took and shit like that So, you know, they put me in the car. How did they stop you from bleeding out to help pressure on the on the But I'm gonna be I was so fucked up. I ain't gonna lie. I was fucked up. I don't even really I have to ask them niggas. You know what I'm saying? If you pressure on them, they say they say my Where all did you get shot four times? Where did you get shot? I got shot? I got a bullet right here in my back Okay, right there that shot right here Twice in my ankle. Yeah I got one two like one in two Like right here. They're right here one. Yeah, that comes on the side of your heart three four Excuse me in my ankle. I got I got I got three mental plates in my ankle. So if I like took them You'd be like damn my ankle is like you can see Yeah, I ain't gonna mess up Three mental plates in my ankle. So I'm in shot five times and you just said and when you went to the hospital How long did you stay in the hospital? Like two months, man. Two months. They had to get you right Because I was in a wheelchair. Yeah, you had to learn how to walk again and all that So what happened was when I gotta tell you because I gotta say it for you So when I got shot up I prayed a lot. I'm gonna be real sure. Let me tell you something. You gotta do let me tell you something I never prayed like this. I never had a I'm gonna be where I believe in God I always felt like I had a relationship with God, but this last time when I got shot. I was really I could have died but I can't explain to you, but it was just like a A relationship I had with God and I was talking to God like every day when I was in the hospital And I felt like God was kind of like telling me, you know, that's why when I see a handicapped person I'm a type of person that helped the person the handicapped person if I see somebody in the wheelchair I'll be the first one to open the door and help them because when I was in the hospital They had me on a lot of medication that I Like I couldn't shit for like a week or two or something like that So I was taking medication and when I shit it was like a whole bed full of shit, right? But when I couldn't wipe my own ass and that like I'm being real just so the nurse had to clean me And I was just crying and I was like, yo, it's okay And I'm just sitting here just like helpless and I just like damn I felt like God was telling me like you see how I feel to not like able to you know Do for your like like like it was something I was just Experiencing like I can't explain it. Like it was like kind of like, you know Help help somebody when the help is needed Like I was like really like crying and the nurse was like, you know, I have to keep crying like this Because I was just tears just coming out because I was like embarrassed. Let me tell you something Everybody go through they three days of dying We come down to meeting God to understanding how it's a three-year dying Meaning like Jesus went through anybody go through something you get trying to get to something So that link right there is unexplainable. Yeah, I can't explain So when I did that when I was in the hospital, I wrote my song called Ben If you put in my song if you look up Alshon Martin Ben So my shout out to my brother solo luchi from uh, four four texas. Does this this how everything No, but it doesn't matter. I'm about to tell you what solo luchi happened. This is how everything happened for me solo luchi I was in my hood solo luchi was living in LA during the time this one. He was a loving hip-hop and all So he was living in LA. So, you know solo luchi from fourth world. He gave me some money. I said, I said, I said, bro I just got out the hospital. I just started back walking. I met up with so I met solo luchi And I told him they got from hoover. Oh, he's now from fourth world and we was in LA Right, so luchi was like a crib too. Yeah crib too. Exactly. So I said this. He was in my hood with me I brought him to hoover street with me. This is when I just recovered and everything So I said, yo, bro, I'm trying to do this rap shit I wrote a song while I was shot up in the hospital. I said, bro, I want to shoot the video in my hood I think I ain't gonna lie man. I felt like that when I got shot I was like, bro, I'm about to do this rap shit because I felt like My story was so real and everything like I was in this trenches like I said, I gotta do it Yeah, so what happened was luchi gave me about a couple thousand dollars off the street like here, bro Shot me a couple thousand with that couple thousand dollars I threw world star hip hop of like a thousand to throw my video on world star I shot the video for maybe like nine hundred dollars. Like I only had a lot. He gave me a couple racks, right? I I made everything happen with with them couple racks luchi gave me And I shot the video in my hood Through the video on world star when I threw the video on world star So shout out to world star hip hop for this Takashi six nine Just came out in the hood with my belly niggas in my hoover niggas He had that shit that gomo shit. Yeah. Yeah, and it was going crazy So when he did that my video was on world star and me being from hoover He had a song in the hood with my belly niggas in my hoover niggas So it was like on top of world star It just looked it like you so when he hit when I we was on this one instagram was just barely just barely taking Love me. So I'm like, yeah, he like you from hoover man. Like you're hard So every six days he hit you up. I I hit him up You hit him up because I was like nigga when he said in the hood my belly niggas in my hoover niggas I'm like, oh, he's like it was late. Yeah. Yeah, I'm up And my video was up on world star next to here and he's like So he's seen it that he like all like he like Nigga and he flew me out to new york and every since then we was like this I lived with him. I lived with six nine and his baby mama His daughter This is when I don't care who you want to name drake niggi I don't care who you that six nine had the biggest year a hip hop that you could ever He went like 13 for 13 on billboard. Like everything he dropped went billboard Like everything you was one year that I was with him that whole year before he went to jail He had the biggest year any order. How did you end up not being one of those guys that got caught up? Because I'm not a blood and I'm not from new york. You know what I'm saying? Look, I I'm from the blue side of things like I came out to new york You know I'm saying and I was on my rap shit just music shit I wasn't involved in under the the the fuck arena. I'm I'm from south central l. A I'm out here trying to make I just got shot five times. I'm out here chasing some rap shit You niggas out here trying to uh Do some dumb ass. I'm happy to make it out my situation So you say like type shit you you you did you guys even do any project together? Yeah, we was working on a lot of music like a lot of the some of the songs he got he went billboard for You know, I was just learning the music shit like some of this shit And I don't even want to care about but I helped him like write some of the songs and that went number one Tati like I helped Tati. That's a song called Tati. Yeah You know I'm saying I like a couple songs and it's a lot of songs We was working on that's in the studio like me and him like it just never had to he was on fire You know I'm saying so it wasn't like when you next to a person that's on fire like how he was on fire You gotta let them do that thing and then once it's time for you to do your thing It's like you just got staying next to that fire So when everything when the baby mom and all of them the job started when everybody when when the when he got picked up I was I was I lived with him when you when he got picked up or when this stuff started to fall Where was you at? I was so when when when a lot of shit happened I'm gonna be real true. I was in the studio like 92 of the time I was working in the studio like a lot of shit. He sometimes he'll leave and I wouldn't even be with him But I'll be in the studio like I'm talking about far as like lead a country. He might I might not even go with him Overseas real quick. I might be in the studio for a month Like recording. Have you seen him since he cat? Yeah. Yeah, I just seen him recently. Yep. I saw him in Miami I was a buster mom. So you steal You and him steal have a relationship man. Me and him is tight forever, bro You're never his mom. His mom is like I love his mom. That's hard. You know, I mean like yet So what do you think? This nigga his dog like it's I'm around or anybody that I'm close to like if you like you see him I'm literally with his family. Yeah, but I'm asking like no, I'm just trying to get it I don't I don't have like cool relationships. Like it's like nigga. We family family Like if I fuck with you, nigga, I'm around your kids. Yeah, I'm around you my kids. Like, you know, we like that's how That's how It ain't no nigga, like we kind of cool type shit with me But nigga, like if you don't fuck with me, you gotta know me Personally, like you gotta know like type of so whatever come with the with with the fact of how people feel about six nine You gotta ride with that because that's your boy But that's my boy But all that snitching and doing all that like my whole thing is this look bro I come from the land where you all that snitch the shit don't fly fly with me where I come from You know what I'm saying? I'm from south central. So like that shit doesn't rock with where I come from But but but you know, he's not like that. You know what I'm saying? He's not a game like he's not a he was a Pedestrian that they turn and they try to make them look my whole thing is this y'all But I got a question because I know that um with LA gang business and stuff like that If you even hang out with someone who is a snitch They they they cut you off. They label you they they offer the stuff about you Yeah, but it's it's it's like I say at the end of the day So has that happened to you if no no if it happens so you get excluded if you're not a gang member Yeah, you're not a gang man. Thank you. Somebody need to know that out there If you're not a gang member Then you can't be a snitch and you ain't in the game with that Yeah, you don't call no names, but man, please Listen, if you give me a break here a regular pedestrian next door the people that own this motherfucker next door They tell on some shit. You can't be like, oh, they told man. They post a tell them people don't they not from the They out here. They got businesses and they got families. They're not in the streets. They got businesses They got family. They're not in the streets. I got somebody need to hear that Somebody need to hear that because it's a lot of people that label you just because you On a podcast or because you interview people Man, why you interview him? Man, you're a snitch. Why are you in her? It's not like that, bro. I'm not in your game I don't know your rules I'm not in your game So just um, you know that that mission is kind of like that. I think they need to do like a new A new like a setting for when it comes to snitching people need to understand Different it's it snitches like and then there's not snitches and there's people that's gonna tell because that's what they're gonna do, bro But do you okay? So as you did you get to meet like nicky or any of those? Yeah, I've been around everybody. Uh, so when I, um Jay-Z. I'm at Jay. I mean we met whole you met Jay-Z. Yep. I got the chill I got the mean how was that because this you know, I be on Jay-Z hard on this channel like I'm in the south So I'll be like Jay-Z that took our girl, you know, it was to come back just new york We love being so so that's why I got the new york and I'm gonna tell you so um, excuse me, um I'm at hove and la when I was with six nine and I was with all brooklyn niggas and um Jay-Z thought I was from new york. He thought I was from new york. He like, yo I'm like now I'm from la. He like you from la. I'm like, yeah, he like man Watch out. He told me to watch out. He like he tell me personally. He said man watch You know have his back watch if I sat on hold if I say man, I will man. I got him He was like, I'm like, I'm like he like and he looked at me and he could tell like he was like, man You a real one like he like that's why he because we was in la He was like, so you the reason why he out here comfortable like in la. I'm like, yeah, like I got him Because I it was like that because when I was in new york, they had me. Yeah, that's real So it wasn't like no gang shit. It was just like niggas when I was in new york I was with them and when they in la they with me like it wasn't no like crepe blush and then yeah Family that family thing you had going on So, um hoe was cool. I met his daughter ivory and shit like that. That's crazy. She was little she was young during the time She probably bigger now, but um hoe was real cool man. That was what hoe was my that's what I look up to Like all these people like everybody. I'm like a jay-z and like I want to move like hoe like I want to like I'm like a As you see in the video, I got for rick ross like the bosses like I like the bosses, bro Like I like the bosses like the rick ross He cool with jay-z too, of course, of course, so y'all got a little uh, little old private uh I'm about to get I'm about to get with them man. I'm about to get with them All y'all talk about this and I want to be like hoe and rosé and all them I don't care about all that young niggas stupid. Shit y'all out here trying to them You don't hear about them niggas getting caught up in no dumb shit. They moved right way Better move like hoe man. I'm telling you I'm just saying Being from uh, okay, so so I've been in new york ever since so I live in new york How long you been in new york like seven years seven years So that's why I kind of like new york So my first time ever being on a radio station was new york hot 97 shout out to hot 97 druski And everybody down there hot 97 my first time on a radio station hot 97 my first time everybody embracing me New york like so that's why like new york is like really like my home now Like yeah, I'm from la even when you hear my music and my approach You don't know la platforms no la. I just don't got no la is just not It's not like it's what I feel like la was a chapter. I just grew up in I feel like new york is like Kind of like stand me in you like new york. I'm more of a new york. They embrace you. Yeah. I got love Okay, so Oh, yeah bust that shout out to my shout out to my big bro buster That's what I'm trying to tell you new york is like my way, bro Like I knew I don't know just like I just love how did you meet buster on through my um my manager special That's just him is Buster ron's his best friend since they was kids like they went to a him in special Everybody knows special you just say special say man bust around a different type of nigga when you come to energy Man buster's a real man. Did you hear what I just said buster's a real the energy Yeah, real. I ain't never seen him about that kind of energy. No nigga can do energy like this No, nigga, you know it too. If you turn the lights on and turn the music on I've never been in room with the nigga I would want to be in the room with him just because his energy Yeah, man was doing that versus shit. Nobody wanted to know Nobody wants that that nigga energy different. They just don't want to know but everybody know that though He don't even want nobody only want to come behind him when they rap it Yes, please. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's get him get him get him right But but yeah, but but man first of all man shout out man to boss talk Yes Shout out to boss talk one oh one shout out to boss talk. I had to come down. I'm in dallas I'm loving dallas right now. I'm actually talking to my brother my brother bully right here You know, my brother got his own car rental shit going on out here Um, and he and he built and he actually do music too So, you know, we just building and coming with a master plan outside of just music bro Expanding me outside of music like bro. That's cool. We're not just thinking one dimensional We think about owning shit businesses and stuff like that. And that's what we're talking about before I even um You know came on he's like bro start bro. You want to be a boss bro that word boss talk Talk one oh one boss is the key word, bro You know I'm saying and that's what you want to become Well, that's that's a good that's a That's a great note to bring up Uh, this rick ross, uh, and you y'all do a video together How do you even link with rick ross? How do you even make that make that connection? Shout out to my brother jaded k out the brocks man Shout out to my brother jaded k out the jaded kiss Oh shout out to jaded kiss too. What you mean jaded kiss me? Come on. Shout out to kiss You know we're on the wall over there kiss the devil man Yeah, come on. He's rap by a bird, rap out of these codes. Nobody touching it Except for of course rock him and and my boy, uh shout out to eric sherman. I love eric sherman So yeah, um my my big bro jaded k, um him and ross is like brothers pretty much Yeah, jaded k out the brocks And then my uncle I got an uncle that's been down 35 years He might What's the name brother? He's my my dad. What's your brother name? My dad. Evil Al Yeah, yeah, so so they call him bo. They call him bolo Bolo out the niggas in garden projects the niggas in gardens is the biggest Projects out of watts That's bounty hunter bj. He's been on here No, but my uncle is is bounty hunters. Listen, let me tell you my uncle name is bolo He's he's been down 35 years bolo. I talked to him. I would call him right now I talked to him. I'm in prison right now 30. He runs everything like he's a blood out of bounty hunter niggas in gardens my uncle Really? Multiple murders and stuff like he's been down for 35 years. Yeah, yeah, so that's bounty hunter bj He's been on this show. They all lean because he's from niggas Okay, well, he know who bolo, you know, you know, if you say bolo, he don't know he is Yeah, you know, he don't he don't ask about him. You know what I'm saying? So I'll ask you so yeah, so my uncle my uncle He when it comes to this diamond stuff He really tapped in Everywhere worldwide. So jeter k is a damu out of the Bronx So my uncle, you know, when you do when you have dudes that's been down 35 36 years You don't you don't know how much you don't know how much knowledge and how many connections and who they done helped out or How many family members they done connect? It's just a lot of just Connections, right? So a person that's been down. Just imagine a person that's been down 35 years 35 years Will they ever get out? He's trying to man. He's trying to so he's been down 35 years. Bolo. Bolo. Yep. So he connected me with jeter Who's next to ross? So I already had the relationship. So he connected you with jeter I had a song with schoolboy q out with kindrick. Yeah, so the schoolboy q's from my hood, right? Fado silver, but he's signed to top dog, which is from bounty. That's right niggas and guards, right? He signed to top. So I had a song with um schoolboy q schoolboy q from my hood I couldn't get the song clear. So I'll tell my uncle that's locked up Man, I got a song schoolboy q I'm trying to get this song clear. He said well, he signed to my law. I'm on top dog He called top dog on the phone I'm on the phone with my uncle in top dog. Hey, you know who this son is this evil. Wow son What? Oh, yeah, you need the song cleared I swear to god on my life song cleared the next day. I had to so I did the song play like He's out from the from the grave. He's speaking from the grave I swear to god I did the song Probably like a year I couldn't get the song clear for I couldn't get in touch with top dog. They two way up there I'm like, man, I'm trying to get this other top. So my uncle like, why didn't you tell me I said, man, he like Man, I swear the next day my song got shot out the bolo man from balls talking on one for calling them shots Yeah, yeah, yeah, so my uncle got that shit cleared for me You know me, you know schoolboy q from shots my big bro Schoolboy q always been like a big brother to me and he he's the person that I I look up to Uh, because he come from my community and that's a hell of a connect So so you get with your with with the with bolo and bolo hook you up with your Your with your your bolo. He hooked you up with ross pretty much So so my I was signed to a label called legacy records during the time So I already had the connection with ross. So all I need them to do is like, hey, man Listen, I got a situation with ross I just put up this money for this and we're gonna shoot the video. I'm going to his house They're like, oh you want a ross house? I'm going to the promise man We're about to shoot it to there. Who picked it that he told you he could come on down. Yeah Oh, yeah, I had the relationship like, you know, I can't nobody just come to ross house. No, you did You did though, you know, so when you get the ross house, what what is it like? You know the mark gotta be Have you seen the movie? Have y'all seen the movie willy wonka and the chocolate? Yeah Every day got like a hundred rule. I swear to god. Yeah, it was like every room with some new shit like I'm like god damn You know It was like that, bro. I was like I was trapped in willy wonka and the chocolate factory I was like, what the fuck is this this thing had a fucking room with like every video game in the world Yo This thing had a room with every old video game They're ever in and he probably been in every some of the rooms He can't be gone in all the rooms man Always out of old video games not a new ones They're old ones All the old ones The old ones, collector's items Yeah, good Yes, every old one That's hard Every boat every one, bro I already got a lot of ordinary too. I talked to a guy, bro He had like a hundred and some rooms, bro. I don't I don't I didn't get to look at the art niggas It was too it was too hard It's like bro like bro like seriously, bro And then I'm like, you know, it's just like yeah the bowling alley in there. I'm getting dressed in the house I'm like, I'm just like it's so much But how I looked at the video, which of course it ain't came out yet But I looked at the video dope video. I can't wait till it come out But it looks like the the girls was there everything They couldn't believe it Thank you Say, how do you think like did he just tell you we want to set up right here and do it or how Who picked where y'all say that Jeter Jeter in that whole act like he already been there But we're gonna go right here and we're gonna be in here and we want to do it right here You know, it really takes a nigga to act like he know what he's doing You really don't know what you're doing I'm walking in the house saying I want to set up right here. This is going to be perfect It might not be perfect to you But to me this the perfect location for us to shoot this shot and bring the girls right here I think I'll sit in this y'all Yeah, man, it's all about your heart man It is it is and I bring that like every time and I didn't get into the talk about white cleft john And how like white cleft is like my uncle like I didn't We didn't even get into that yet white cleft the legend like With him too, right? I got like I'm gonna let you hear I got like 10. First of all, I got like 10 unreleased songs with him I got a song right now on all streaming platforms on his biggest prod on his last record call I mean his last project called white cleft goes back to school. We got a song called 420. That's the biggest song on that project um, and we was actually um um, cat Williams was supposed to direct the video and um I had a I had put cat Williams and white cleft on a three-way car and it was oh man I had recorded it. That's what happened. But um, cat Williams was supposed to direct the video and then um Man cat Williams is real life funny, bro I would cat Williams direct the video. Is he a director? But I don't know, you know, I get the crazy stories on here from cat Williams. Like now all of a sudden he's a director Now I'm down. Come on. I want to hear this the song is called 420 and I don't know I don't know why uncle cleft was like, yo, let's just have cat Williams. They call cat one because he liked the smoke Yeah, I guess I don't that's probably what it is. But but he was a cat cat said he was in Haiti with cleft That's how I got history And he said, you know what next video? I don't care what it is. I'm gonna let you direct it. He like And can't just say I'm gonna take off with it. Yeah cat was like, yeah, and it was all It was all witty and then next thing, you know, cat Whim just fell off the planet earth from big court to phase on love who's been on my show They both had crazy stories about cat Williams But both of them said he was super That he had a good heart, man He gave you the shirt off Like I had I made the call I forgot how many got cat Williams number because cleft didn't even have cleft cat Williams number I got cat Williams number and cat Williams don't even know me, but I got his number I forgot who I got it from but I had his number. So when I called when I called I told I called um cat Williams. I said, hey, I'm about to put you on a he don't even know who I am I say, I'm about to put you on the call. Well, why cleft John? You know, yeah, he was like witty So I call uncle cleft. I say, I'm about to call cat Williams. I got his number You know cat uncle cleft. Yeah, call him call So they got to talking I So I put him on a three-way and I just set the phone right then I recorded on my other phone Because it was so funny. Yeah, they was just talking to me. I like I didn't know they they had history When he's like they had mad history like he cat was talking about like how much he loved Haiti and You know, he want to go back and they you know, they was all in Haiti doing Shit like that. Yeah, yeah, bro. Yeah. Yeah, so we out and it's so uncle cleft was explaining to him like, yeah We got the song called 420 He went to so I'm excited. Like, yeah, the cat was about to direct this whole You know, he was Directed nothing before All I'm high I know a high moment. This is a high moment. He's all through your high We're gonna go you let you be the director boy. I need to come up with some stuff when he's smoking You know That's hard though because that's that's dope that you could bring people you could come together with people I'm good at that. I'm good at that one thing one thing about me. That's and I'm more like I'm an artist But I'm more like on some a and r tech like I'm more I'm more like I'm a good person to get people to connect Like I know how to get people like to fuck with each other. Yeah I'll be the person that did it link them up. Yeah, I'm really good at that I'm really good at that's hard man. So you like doing that. I like you basically What I'm gonna go back to Rick Ross's house Oh, you have to go back because you can't just leave at that The promise land was hard man. So how how many tape how many scenes did y'all do in that thing? Damn, it was like that treatment was different. It was an old date. We Yeah, excuse me. It was like a um And y'all were dressed to impress too. Yeah. Yeah all my and that's all my jewelry Like none of that shit rented like all my shit is me Yeah, we and shout out to my shout out to my label for that because they like yo We got to make sure you you know when you're doing songs with these artists like Ross and shit like that you can't come Half step. Yeah, you got to come correct. You can't do that fake shit. You can't You know what I mean ran out some jewelry You know when you on that level when you doing that nigga, you better have that like you know, I'm saying You know, it's just it was just like, you know, it was like A memory that I would never forget bro an experience that I would never forget and I always thank God for that It was just like just being around Ross And just just it was just like a I can't explain it, bro I really can't explain it. It's like, yeah, it's something that you can't explain It was just something that that was met for me and in my experience from from being shot up Losing both parents and it was like everything was just adding up to me like damn is this what's god Why is god like showing me all of this and when you know, it's it's like a it's like dang like I'm this is what I'm meant for to do because it's like, you know, I'm saying it's like, what is it? What is it like, you know what I mean? Like it's it's it's a question But you are picked Yeah, it's a question though, but you're still everybody not doing what you're doing Yeah, but it's a question that you're still gonna because you like bro, you gotta spend that's cool that you're doing that It's cool that I'm doing that but it's at the same time. It's like dang bro like My life my my upbringing was like Like real different and tough and like not understanding Like it's cool that I'm doing this and I and I love it, but it's like dang. What is this about? You know, you got it. You know, you got a dad Yeah, and you got big you got bow uncle bolo and and and and your dad either That they they left for legacy out here for you. That's Almost definitely I just put out today about uh Shorty low junior he'd be here a lot shorty low son And I deal with uh, uh, I'll be linking up with pmc son You know, like the ones who done passed on and And it's just something about them trying to make sure they create the right legacy To leave behind, you know the because you carrying the torch for your dad really And you know, maybe he did end up in a situation where he got killed and went through these different things But look at you you you you you what he would would have wanted you to be the things you're doing is not normal, bro There's above but that's why they praying I I'd be like trying to understand like what it is because so So basically, um, let me tell you this real quick. So basically it's this shout out to gal. She's like, uh So my gal is this woman not this one. She's a woman that um, my father grew up with okay, and um, you know From you know, she you know, um after my mother passed, you know, I'm saying she felt she She was like mom my father's like childhood girl Okay, pretty much and and and my father cheated on her and when my mom had me Okay, so when my mom passed away She always felt like a mother to me and then when my father passed away. She even felt even more Like a mother to right so this is true story, right and shout out to gal gal And snoop dog mom are best friends, right? Okay best friends like I'm talking about like since they was kids so Um snoop dog and shout out to snoop uncle snoop snoop dog and recipes to his mom. His mother just passed away I know not too long ago. I got the call Okay, so his mother passed away not too long ago and shout out to bean um snoop brother bean shout out to bean And um, just I just found out that like that's a relationship that I honestly about to build snoop because gal is a mother to me to this day like she like Caused me every day check up on me. This is like my father's childhood Girl like she like type that you know type of stuff So she looks at me more like a son because you know, my mother got killed when I was three And my father got killed Later on so she like he don't really have so she really looked at me as her son You don't know when she yeah, you get I'm saying yeah and her snoop dog Mom her snoop dog mom are best friends like literally since like day one. That's all right, so like Snoop is like her nephew. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like that's her like snoop. Yeah, you know what I mean? So we never got a chance to so I was just with in miami with a snoop younger brother bean and then he was just building and Um stuff like that. So, you know, I have plans on you know working with snoop. Yeah. Yeah plans on working with snoop stuff like that and um That's hard. I want to talk about the spot. I'm god. I'm uh, it's like you linking up with spot. I'm god Um, and then we gotta talk about the shine kingston too because I got the shine kingston recognition to my brother That's hard. So this is a give me a understand on how you because you guys got a video. I've seen that video I'm kind of I'm kind of mad at you because you none of these videos are out No, no, no, no, no, no, let me tell you that and and my bro right here He he be tight about this shit because I got so much music and it's not out So basically and shout out to legacy record. So today I just spoke to the um The um the lawyer And the thing is what it was See, I did a lot of music with the label that I was with and then I had a year contract and I got out of my contract So I I did a lot of music. So Now that I'm out of my contract, you know, they don't got like, you know, and I don't want to too much to all my business But you know, they don't got like my masters and presented So them putting money into anything it'll make no sense. Like it's like then you're not even with us no more Yeah, so I had to make a negotiated. Okay. I give y'all a little percentage of you know Some of my masters or something like that. You know what I'm saying? So so so boom. So that's what we did today We just did this today. So I'm about to put out that spot. I'm gonna shit. I'm gonna put a spot. I'm gonna so December like the first two weeks of December about to put it out. Okay. Okay So I'm about to put out the spot. I'm gonna join. I got a song called I'm gonna shoot it I'm gonna show you before I leave it's called uh untold stories. I shot a video while I was in Greece I had a show in Greece. Wow. So I didn't travel the world to it I didn't even get into but so much that I could talk about so I wouldn't Yeah, I went to Greece and it showed out sold out showing Greece. I shot a video while I was in Greece called Untold stories. It's crazy. I'm gonna show you the video. It's unbelievable Visuals we work. How do you how do you put these people together to do it? You just contact people? Built for this Okay, I'm gonna do a video in Greece. You don't just do a video in Greece without the people Let's take this look at the Greece. Look first of all, who the hell you know in Greece? It was they reached out. It's just people that stare Excuse me. I'm just getting over a call to y'all. It's okay. They were people that was there So I have a song with Sean Kingston called hold up is fire. I felt like it was a hit. Anyway I don't feel like we went by it the right way, but it's called hold up There he is. Yeah me and Sean right there. What's on that? Where? Right there by me and ti Oh, young kids. Yeah. Yeah, that was the same day that the Migos and him got into it Well, we was in Vegas. They got into our Vegas. They did We was there. Yeah, I be on it. I was there. You're Shout out to my brother Kingston. That happened right after that. Yeah, they did get into it Kingston. Yeah, they did They did but but but I know Kingston And I know Kingston. I know it's hard. He got a big heart Kingston got a big heart and I know that he's not feeling cool about that takeoff situation Kingston got the biggest heart shout out to mama Kingston to mama Kingston I love you shout out to mama Kingston shout out to the whole Kingston family. That's my family right there, man That's my job. I want to hear about What did you think about like the rappers we've lost pmb rock we've lost off We've lost Takeoff we've lost uh all kind of people came on we called king von pop smoke We've lost the guys see the one with french Montana The one with french Montana the guy that was uh seek sing Chinks, okay All of these guys, huh? Yeah, yeah, we lost a lot of good people man. Yeah Um, and I know you you've been shot five times. Yeah Um, you could have been gone. Definitely gonna be a long time ago, but you were still here What do you think when you hear all these stories of everybody passing away like this getting killed, you know Moving different people dropping locations your your city Roscoe's people checking in and when they check in it don't really matter because they're getting checked out as soon as they check I don't mean to laugh at that, but it's the truth um I feel like you know Safety is a thing that We got to consider You know a lot of these different places. We got to we got to start um as artists as Entrepreneurs should not even as artists as Yeah, anybody that's about yeah, I walk any type of business I think we about to I think I think tapping in with some type of security is going to be like a big thing You know i'm saying I feel like man get you some real security. It's real. This is when the security gonna start, you know You can't you got you got to get you some type of security as I feel that's I think if you got to some type of security, bro I do um I think that's gonna be a big thing gotta get it gotta have it gotta be gotta be something that's real too It can't be your home boy. No, none of that boys. You gotta be the real deal holy field You know what I'm saying so some arm security some guys got a real A real a real business what they they got they got they got acts one of my closest friends Uh, he has a security business, but he got acts cops working for his uh, Yeah, this you know I'm saying off-duty police's officers. I mean you got to do what you got to do Protect yourself, you know, I mean you really right, you know, you're so right And I don't think there's nothing wrong with that some people want to say, oh, you gotta Every time I six nine had all them dang protect six nine smart He's not with it six nice come on Six, we can talk about six nine right now six nine. God He got security and he's smart. What did you talking about? Y'all can say what y'all want about that kid that kid is smart He's smart. He can't go anywhere. Yeah. He's gonna pay for the security too Yeah, you know, you didn't see when he was doing Michael Jackson. He was dead. He was dancing around in security He's like he's loud. He's cloudy, but he like yeah, I got security boy. You know, you big arm god Or they are they be like, yo, you're about to do what you about to do He's the joy about the you know Yeah, he's putting up the bag He got his security, bro. No, that's real. You know, you gotta have it man um But let me let me get back to spot First of all, shout out to my brother spot him and one thing I want to say First of all, I'm about to tell you so first of all, shout out to my brother spot him one thing about spot him got him he got the Uh, a real organic Following you gotta understand that b box record was one of the that was like the biggest record ever on First of all, tick tock ain't no song Beat that record on tick tock. No, I don't know what's the the numbers and percentages are but when it comes to that They did They were on it I don't think nothing on tick tock will ever ever ever break that. You know what I'm saying? So he got a real organic, um following You know what I'm saying? And spot him won't always be he gonna always it's just when you when you got some type of dudes that do stuff like that It's different. So, um shout out to my brother spot him Um, how did y'all pick the word y'all was gonna do that? No, so I had a song called oops I wrote the song so I you know the song but like oops. That's yo, bitch. Oops. That's my bad Oops got a new whip skirt to my tags. Oops got a new plug Yeah, so it's called oops and it was like more like it was real tick tockish And I I did the song while I was in Arizona and in my I had my boy from florida I always had like a florida thing about me because I'm Haitian or something like that. I don't know Yeah, yeah, he's not got songs of raw They all from florida. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's hard. So it's like a florida thing with me. I don't know why but it's like a florida The way with me Yeah, so it's always been like a florida thing. So yeah, um, I was like, yo, I want to get um spot him on his record And then um shout out to navarro navarro gave um spot him got him his deal He got him his deal like the lawyer. Okay. So I know navarro. He's from jersey. Okay. So navarro was like, yeah I'm who gave gave his producer the who made the beatbox record. He's like, I'm the one who gave him the deal He's like, you want to get him on the record? I'm like, yeah Sent him over with a song And that's how I happened and every since they came out to vegas And we was bro, that's my little brother. I love the shit out that nigga man. That's like my little twin Y'all kidding. He's short. He's short in the motherfucker. He's not dad is short. Yeah, he's short He's short. He's really short. Yeah, he's really short. So when he when he put the song out He was only like 18 19 He could even perform the song in a lot of places because he wasn't 21 because when he came out to vegas to shoot the video with me He could he had the number one song in the world and he could even perform it in vegas because he wasn't 21 He was mad as hell He was mad. I can imagine imagine having the biggest record in the world and you couldn't even perform it Because you're not even 21 He had the biggest song in the world. Oh, that's that song went Sean Cotton uh say cheese who basically uh gave the story on him. I remember we talked to Sean about him getting shocked I wasn't feeling that he talked about all the snitch shit and all that. I wasn't feeling it What's that's named Sean Cotton? Yeah, say cheese. I mean Sean cotton. Hey, that ain't what you I'm not with that I'm just being I'm just keeping it real. I'm not What he was doing he was he he know what he told he know what I'm talking about Yeah, I don't like that. No, he you you talking like he likes something like bro You're not even a street like don't even like don't speak on shit like that. I don't know what to tell about I know you don't know what I'm talking about. He know what I'm talking about. It's cool. Okay, but I'm just saying That's cool. No, I don't like that. I don't like that Don't I'm that's to anybody but if you not know street nigga like that But I'm gonna be speaking on nothing like if you don't read no paperwork You don't know no accurate things because you do know what you're talking about. You know, you don't I don't I don't like that Bro, like we talked about Yeah, yeah, but it don't even matter like it's like bro like at the end of the day, bro You not even know street nigga like that you ain't who are you let's read your paperwork in your background Niggas like you know I'm saying like stop trying to like get in shit that you not even mixed with niggas like that's like That's like you just leave that alone, bro. Like I don't I don't I don't care about none of that I'm a real one bro. Like I'm a one of them one of them. I'm one of them for real So when you when you when you met with spot on God, that's my little bro When when he had gotten shot coming from the studio But you was able to relate to him because you've been How crazy is that a lot of time when you meet different people who've been through life experiences How you able to relate to him that That draws for a bond though because you're able to understand how he how he thinks about different things that transpire Man man man as as just black people and just people as Bro, we come we come from messed up environments Unfortunate situations and making up making it up out of them situations You know as a dude like spot. I'm just blowing up so fast and a little dude Like I cherish it like that man. Like that's like like bro like you made it up out of out of out of your situation, bro Yeah, it's a doubt to like just become who you are that fast, bro Like I cherish I cherish my people. I love my people. I'm not a person that's like about You know beat my people down or like breaking them down, bro Like people don't like to so people don't don't like to show love. They hate and they Tearing they is damn fast, bro. And they talk shit. Yeah, bro. Like that shit whack, bro That's you gotta stop a lot of jealousy, but you gotta understand cane killed able for nothing Jealousy is a dangerous thing. Yeah You ain't gonna it's gonna happen It's a whole lot of other loving brother stories too that that that didn't get told But they tell us that story for a reason because they want us to turn this against each other Real talk why they say can't enable because they wanted to inflict and had that sister marriage Shit that he's speaking about we got to be the ones to stop that. That's real The ones who who make different stories or the hell shard and bully and then talk about them right They're having each other's back and uplifted each other. They're like he needed to be on the damn podcast No, because no no no awesome real shit though, bro This like like I don't like We see me with dudes like him bro, like the people that surround me, bro Like anybody I fuck with but I swear to god They thorough bro. Yeah, that's I don't fuck with bro I ain't trying to say I'm just this immaculate person, but anybody that fuck with me But you gonna be like nigga And everybody I met from you that's been solid like and it's just like that. You know what I'm saying That's hard. I'm good like you might you might see him and see a white boy But he would order the whole thing all everything. You know what I'm saying But he but he keep me on my square He yeah, but but he but he blacked up Bro No, I'm serious man. Like bro, like it's love with me, man Every time you see me man, I bring love good energy And that's just what it is with me, man Top three artists of all time did or alive any genre Damn number one hope I knew you're gonna say hope because early number two Ross Ross that's hard. You get to rock with the people you you've been with these people number three. Uh Mary Why would you say I know Rest in peace dmx man Yeah I know I know why um But why you choose? But I gotta part you choose. Why you choose ross as number two Okay We can go on all day about ross. We love a shout out to the mmg. We love ross So that's the first rick ross that we've ever had in our top three. Yeah. Yeah. Who else said rick ross? No, you're right. Nobody else. It's so that's why I'm asking Oh, yes as a musician I'm talking about He got I probably would never did he had to think about it, but go ahead. I probably would never did that I I would never put him as number two If I never got a chance to like be with me with me. I ain't gonna lie. So just um Being next to him and just um genuine dude. Yeah. Yeah, just seeing his how genuine he is and just how uh Excuse me creative He is and just as a just a whole not just a rapper But just a just like just like everything when it comes to like Everything around it like it's just like damn bro. Like he made me want to be like him I'm gonna be real with you. He's a question. You make me think about stuff now who he is Like I love his spirit The person he is and and this is not people want to tell you dick riding and then And all that other shit, but bro, like he's a person that I like I want to be like you gotta think about this dude. So that's why I don't know He's I don't I've been around a lot of people And he's one of the main people like I was like man, I would like to What happened to gunplay what happened to wale? First of all, first of all, um, I met gunplay and I met uh wale and I met all I'm at all of them. Um, they still MMG Meals not I'm about to tell you that I'm gonna tell you like this. I'm gonna tell you like it is because I'm not wearing My brother case, man, Philly anyway, um Everybody I met around mmg is still mmg Gunplay and still loyal still rocking with uh ross to this day um Gunplay uh wale Wale is still mmg still with ross still Loyal still still family. I'm at the whole family. Everybody that's mmg um It's to me. I feel like in this might be why and whether it is what it is It uh Meals seemed like a person that kind of like God lit did his thing And felt bigger than the program type shit like I met felt like You know forgetting where I'll show you man. Who put you on who put you on I'm gonna be real with you. Who put you on bro. Don't ever get it twisted. Who put you on The basketball owner I don't care who you remember that It's who put ross if it wasn't for ross niggas. You wouldn't even be who you are, bro I'm just I'm just being real with you niggas. If it wasn't for ross If you you wouldn't even be No, bro, everybody pat That wasn't fucking with you, bro Like I'm just being real with you bro ross put you in a position to be where you act doing what you're doing now Bro, what are you talking about? The people came and did something for him that ross couldn't do He was hitting out that justice actor. He was yeah, I don't know what he did I'm just talking about with ross I don't know about all that bro. I'm just trying to talk about that loyalty like I don't know about all that bro I see what she was saying too. My point of view if that was me in that position You get you get blinded by that because you're like, okay, you might have done I don't get blinded by loyalty bro, but then I got putting the you put me on this you family No matter what I don't know about that. No matter me. I would never do that. You know what I mean? I'm always gonna know my roots. I'm always loyal to my people Yeah, yeah, but when you get people that get into the industry and they get to do some things It confused them maybe they were just doing business, but they never had that bond who him and him and rick ross No, bro, you got to say bro, I don't want to It was the gala. Yeah. Yeah. You're tripping bro. I'm trying to tell you all the time. Yeah, bro Oh They can business moves and then he made other business moves that made him venture away. No, that's real. Yeah But that's not right. Yeah, it's real, but that's not right Right It was real, but it was wrong I just felt like Me knowing who Ross is you could have came at him about anything you do and you could have talked to him Hell yeah, and it wouldn't have been like that Ross. Oh my bad. Yeah, it wouldn't never been that way. It's just being around Ross, bro I felt like you can it's not he's not a hard person to deal with bro He's not bro. Like I've been around him. I see how he is, bro He's a very good person who wanted me. Yeah, bro He's not like a person that you won't even want to try to snake or try to know He's he's already who he is and dead. He's who he is, bro And that yeah, you know what I mean? Like I just don't I don't care what you say That's a yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, you don't have to do that. You can't even tell me that's like you meeting me like now I know how hate shine is bro. Yeah, he's not even like that. Yeah. You know what I mean? You can't tell me nothing about because I know how he is. He's a good dude And that's how he is and I don't care what you say. Yeah, yeah, right and I just know that So something got to be just like I went um, I saw 21 Savage talk about uh takeoff He's like, well takeoff was not a dude that you argue with if you was arguing with takeoff You got to be in a room because takeoff wasn't a person that you be arguing with or something like that And that's how that's what I mean by that Now you've seen that a person I seen takeoff that day when I was showing I didn't get pictures with takeoff near him because it was performing they performed there How you got my big I see first enough to change something. You're my big brother walker. I got a video You got a video walker walker don't do music no more. He did it with me I'm his twin. It's new how long ago last year That's hard because he don't do music like that no more Do music because he Because I bring that energy and I remind him of himself. You know what I'm saying? You guys I'm like I'm like the young like I'm I could and guess who produced the beat. Um Uh Listen that he he won't start. He about that I'm about to sound crazy. Hello Who produced the beat he started all this shit? Hold on, I might say, watch this, he gonna say in the beginning, and I'm drunk right now, so I'm sorry. I'm about to tell y'all right now, y'all gonna hear it on the phone right now, over the mic, right now. So this the video with me and Walker, me and Walker, it's called Active. It's under my own name, Al Shamar, that's my real name, Al Shamar. Al Shamar, I looked that up, I did not think that, I was like. Lex Lugan. Lex Lugan, by the fact, Lex Lugan. Shout out to Lex Lugan. Shout out to Lex Lugan, it's the video out on all streaming platforms, and as long as it's crazy. We shot it in Brooklyn too. I've been to New York for a long time, so we shot this in Brooklyn. You see me there, I got the New York, it's called Active. It's fire. We shot it, this is my truck too. I'm upset with you, cause you changed your name. My real name is Al Shamar, but I changed it. I was looking and I seen that, I'm like, no job, but I went away from that. Cause I was like, that ain't him, sounds like that ain't him. So this me and Walker, it's hard, we shot that in Brooklyn, yeah. And you gotta go into, you gotta go into the reason why you changed your name from that. Oh, so I changed it, let's talk about that real quick. So, and then when we put the tag, we can put like Al Shamar and change the name to Hay Shamar. Yeah, yeah, I got you. So, let's go and go. So basically, I'ma be real with you. I changed my name because I didn't want my name, I'ma be real with you, tied to the... Cause you're a junior. To the 6'9", tradeway, shit, nothing, nothing, shit. So you had to change it? I just felt like, I wanted to start off fresh. I didn't want Al Shamar. I didn't want all that shit tagged to, you know what I'm saying? Just all that shit, bro. And then I wanted to connect to my Haitian roots. I wanted to connect to who I am as a Haitian man in America. I thought it was like dope. My name is Al Shamar. It's hard. So then Hay Shamar is dope. It's like saying Haitian. Yeah. But Hay Shamar. Yeah. But my name is Al Shamar. But it takes big colors to change your name. Are you a junior just like your dad? My dad was a junior. Yeah. So you're a third. My dad name was Albert. Oh, okay. Albert Martin Jr. Oh, okay. So I know my mom wasn't going for that shit. She wasn't going for that Al Shamar. Yeah. None of that shit. Listen, man, I'ma tell you, man, I didn't know when we did it. We go by energy, man. We didn't know what we was like. She told me. She looked at it. She's like, yeah. But I looked at the Al Shamar. So when you look, hold on. I want to say, when you look at my video. So when you look at Al Shamar. Everything's gonna pop up. No jumping, all that stuff. No jumpers gonna pop up. I said that one you. I was like, hell no. Who is that? Me and 6ix9ine gonna pop up. I didn't even look. A lot of shit with me and 6ix9ine. Why did you think it wasn't him? Because that ain't his name. I moved home. You know what I'm saying? Al Shamar. Everybody know me as Al Shamar. I'm the dude that's from South Central. But like I said, I'm in New York. I've been in New York for like 7 years. And I ain't been back to LA because I got out of LA. And it was the best thing for me. When I got to New York, you know, I got closer to my Haitian roots. There's a lot of Haitians in New York. So I was kind of good. Like I was always, people were like, how was you floating around? Where you connect them guys is crazy, man. Because you come from there across the country. Yeah. So a lot of people in LA be like, how the fuck you surviving in New York? And they don't know because I'm Haitian. I'm gonna be like, not like that. But like, when I go to Miami, like I'm good. Will you visit? Like, I love my Haitian culture. Will you ever go back to Haiti and visit? Yeah, I will. But I'm gonna go protect it. What the hell? We interviewed what was the Prime Minister or something? He was running to be a Prime Minister of Haiti. Clef actually ran for, White Clef ran for Haiti years ago. Long time ago. Why didn't he win? He should have won. Man. Dude, you've been doing this a long time, bro. You've been in this stuff a lot. Yeah, he, I usually spend Thanksgiving with Clef. He bring the whole Haiti into his house. You deal with a lot of different people, man. You've dealt with so much, man. It's crazy. Yeah, man. But you're still here. I love the fact that you're still here. I keep thinking about that. You deal with a lot of different spirits in a lot of different places. And this entertainment thing can be funny sometime. Yeah, but I'm not really in it for the entertainment or nothing. But it's there. But, you know, I feel like if one of these records catch, they catch if they don't, then I'll just be... They're having fun. Yeah. They're doing it for the love of these people, man. I don't want to... Bro, the song about it. That's hard. That's hard. You have a family? I don't care about it. Like, is it, who's your son? No, I don't got, I don't got... No, wife, kids, no, none of that? I don't, I mean, I got a son. How old is he? He's three. I'm teaching him to pour into that right now, man. I don't really have a family. I'm like a... Like, this nigga, here is my family. Like, if I wasn't... Yeah, I wouldn't even be here. Because you don't know your dad, son, family or nobody? I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. Yeah. If you don't come from a household... Right. I know what I had there. Excuse me, man. How did you know what structure is? Bro. I've never been in a house like that. You don't come from a house like that. I had to think about that, you know? What the hell made you like Bostow 101? Because you know what he... Because he reached out. He reached out. What the hell was it? I saw a clip. And it was on... What do you call... What do you call when you watch Instagram and it's on the Explore page? Explore page. A real popped up. And... That's you. A real popped up. And who was it? Somebody... You were talking... Of course, talking. That's what I do. You were talking inside the table. And I was like... It was a real question. It was real. And somebody explained and responded and I was just like, damn. It was like... You know how you ask a question and some people might not give you that. It was like one of them like real nigga moments. Yeah. You might have been Hot Boy West. Was it Hot Boy West? You watched it 50 times back to back. That's hard, man. Thank you so much. You know what I'm saying? Man, I love me. We ain't working in vain, babe. Yeah. We trying to do something real. Yeah. That's how I have it. That's how I be every time, too. It's just real. It's just about the people I'm dealing with. You know what I'm saying? And I make it that way purposefully because it means more when it's intimate. This is a conversation. It's a very good conversation, too. This is a great interview, man. Everything I learned about you, I didn't know none of that stuff a lot of it. Like I said, I've seen that page, though, but I didn't look at it. I was like, that is not that nigga, man. You like to find out everything on here so that it will be more organic. I'm Alson Martin. Like I say, you know, everybody know me from the, you know, like I said, I got discovered from the little 6-9 situation. And I brought them, the Crips and the Bloods came together and LA was like, we don't want this nigga in LA. We being from Hoover. Hoover, we like the most hated gang in LA. So I was like, Crips and Bloods, nigga. It is what it is. We don't get along with neither one of y'all anyway. So he cool with me. So what it is, like, you know, this check-in shit where he fuck with me, he already checked in then. So if y'all, if we talking, checking in, I don't know what y'all mean by that, but if he fucking with me, who you gotta check in with? You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I just don't figure out who he gotta check in with if he fuckin with me. So you, he will have... Yeah, like what is your spot? Bolo never few. He just stop playin', stop playin', nigga! Bolo never few. You know what I'm saying? Who you gotta check in with? He talked about what he was face to face. No, 6-9, you know, he spent time with his family. So it was never about none of them problems. He got to know what he was. It wasn't about them, yeah. It wasn't about none of that shit. So when y'all try to throw that shit at us, at us. We're like, like, what is he talking about? He know, he know who is saying, look what six nine do with his money. He always out. About that. Y'all doing all this extra shit. We not even about that. There's no shit talking about. What is your talking about? We don't even own that. And it is what it is. I'm standing on that. Yeah, like that's the way it be, man. Like I said, man, I'm going to tell you first of all, thank you again for coming on the show, man. How can people reach you if they trying to link with you to do some business, man? Hey, Sean Martin, that's H-A-I-S-H-A-W-N Martin on Instagram. And right now, bro, I'm going to be real with you. I don't really want to collab with nobody. I'm just being real with you, not like that. Like, because you're not going to want to fuck with me because I want to tell you some crazy ass number, bro. And I don't really need nothing from you. It's not about the money. It's not about none of that shit, man. I don't want to fuck with you. If you might introduce me to somebody, we can work on it personally. But it's not about money with me and nothing like that because I'm already doing what I'm supposed to be doing. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not about the money. And I'm going to be right about none of the money shit. It's not about the money shit. My niggas is getting money. They got car businesses and we got, we traveling and we, we, we about to set up tours. I'm about to drop shit with Ross and Marge. I'm going to drop my album. Me and Spiderman, I got a Twitter campaign. I'm coming to New York to do my first New York layup. I'm coming. I'm bringing boss talk to New York and I'm coming to Disney. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it. Let's take a chance. I'm doing another one. I wouldn't do it. Let's go. I've been in Canada like four times. No, let's go. Let's go. It's hard up there. What's up, Barry? Isn't that country? She said, she said, is it country? Is it country? What? Niggas, I'm country. Let's go. Right. Yeah, yeah, you is country. I'm country. I love it. Yeah, I love country, mama. I do, I do. Y'all country people are my people, man. I'm country. I'm country. Oh, okay, okay. He country, I'm city. I'm country. I call Shaw Kingston right now and Mama Kingston know all of my peoples. Yeah, we made him that day. She was excited about that. She said it's a part country. It ain't country at all. I'll tell you that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me tell you something. Minnesota? No, not country. Cold as a motherfucker. Y'all don't know. I know. Don't bring your country. No, it's in the summer. They gon' freeze your country now. I went to Chicago. They gon' freeze your country now. That's what that two-fifth of a few years ago was called as hell. I live up in, I say hell no. The ice was water thick, like the thick water on top. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, the ice was on top. Bro, I got the, it was snowing wasn't it? I said, babe, we got the hell out of here, bro. They tripping in Chicago. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what it is. And when he from, nobody gon' lie. And Minnesota? It's cold. Bro, it's colder than New York, Chicago, all that shit. No, it is. I swear to God. It's freezing out there. Cold, cold. It's freezing, bro. It's a different type of cold. Yo, yo, body touched up the whole time while you in there. The best month to go is what? Probably June and July. In the summer though, it's cracking. But it's a lot of money out there. I bet. It's a lot of money out there. You actually need to go out there and get your pot and get a boss talk going just because it's a lot of artists, it's a lot of money out there. You just need to, you need to go on a boss talk tour. What I'm gonna do, I'm gonna go on a boss talk tour. And I'm gonna set up and then you go on a boss talk tour. Live setting like us. Yeah, we've been many things. We've been to LA, we've been to Chicago. I've been to Chicago. I've been to LA, I've been to Vegas. No, we didn't stop down there. Oh, we got out of AZ. We are tripping. What are you doing? We got out of the connect. We're gonna love AZ. I bet. I don't stop for no boss talk. The cities that we go to, the cities we go to, we have to have the connect to stop there and to say, who are we gonna interview? I don't want to hit you, bro. I don't want to help you expand whatever you want to go. I like to go. I'll go. How's it going? I want to get involved in boss talk, man. Man, let's do it. I want to get involved, man. I like what y'all doing. Man, we be chillin' though. On the set, it's the same. It's the same, nigga. We're here. Yeah. It's just like this. Yeah. Real shit. I love what y'all got going on, man. It's a good vibe. I love y'all, man. Man, we better shut this down. Man, we love you, bro. I love y'all. Man, I hate y'all, man. Me and my wife, we coming to you next, though. We coming to New York. I've already been playing there, right? Yeah, because we never been with boss talk. Yeah, boss talk. We've been a lot of time. We're gonna go hit up Jim Jones and all that stuff. All them boys you see on that wall. It's going down. It's going down. Hey, man, check it, man. It's been another great segment, man. A boss talk 101, what a boss is talk. And we out.