 Green cover seed started about four years ago. My brother Brian and I have been farming here for a long time and we started doing some cover crops. We got a SARA grant to do some cover crop research on how much moisture different crops use. We really liked what we saw after doing those different research projects and we got kind of excited about the potential for this but seed was really hard to find and so we were going to get in seed and bringing it back and other people were saying well hey get some of that for us get some of that for us so we kind of said well maybe maybe we can sell this stuff. That was only four years ago when we started selling and we started out with just selling seed to a few people you know a few thousand pounds and this year we'll have you know probably a thousand customers in 40 states and probably move around eight million pounds of seed. One of the things that white people order from us is because we have such a wide selection of different products we've got over 50 different species that they can choose from and we'll mix it up for their for their needs. I would say the SARA grant helped us get started you know it's one of those things where for years we said we want to try some cover crops and then when it gets to crunch time it's like uh we'll do that next year because we don't have time to do it now. Well with the SARA grant we had to do it because they'd given us money we'd written this proposal. It forced us to get out there and do it and not only plant the cover crops but to really observe them because we had these moisture sensors in so we were checking them on a on a weekly basis and we're monitoring the moisture level so it forced us to be out there in the plots in the fields every week looking and observing and watching and seeing what happened. We had some good field days from that lots of people came in and learned from that as well and then it kind of gave us the the motivation and encouragement to start we start green cover seed as well. Kind of our our little slogan I guess is cover crop strategies for soil health and that's really what we try to do for people is we want to help them to use cover crops in a strategic way to help improve the health of their soil. For some people that's going to mean you know maybe just put in cereal rye out there for some people that might mean a blend that has 15 different things in it it all depends on what they're trying to accomplish what their next crop is there's there's so many factors that go into it so with our experience with with what we've seen the mistakes that we've made we help people kind of navigate those waters and get started with a development of strategy to use cover crops to increase the health of their soil but but we really try to get people to focus on soil health as being the end goal and not just using cover crops.