 Coming up on DTNS smartwatch sales are booming zoom plugs its security holes by buying key base and how tech companies big and small will change forever, but how This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday April 7th, 2020 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt from Oakland, California I'm Justin Robert young and I'm Roger Chang from LA County. We were you're also the show's producer We were just talking about oranges And so many things about oranges you would not believe or the things we talked about oranges on good day internet Become a member and find out at patreon.com slash DTNS. Let's start with a few tech things you should know Google Lens has a new copy-paste feature that lets you save text from paper documents to your phone and other devices signed in on Chrome You can also hear Investigations of words by pointing your camera at them and select words to learn more about AMD announced the Ryzen pro 4,000 series of mobile business processors Those are the ones that compete with Intel's v pro line built on the 7 nanometers Zen 2 architecture Including a dedicated AMD secure processor. That's kind of thing that helps prevent kernel level attacks AMD's memory guard encryption feature to support full memory encryption So they can't steal your laptop and read out the memory the Ryzen 4,000 series also includes AMD's pro Manageability with support for Microsoft's endpoint manager business laptops with the chips will arrive later this year from Lenovo and probably others The financial time sources say that the UK is playing is paying Swiss IT company Zulké engineering to investigate whether it can integrate with the decentralized Apple Google exposure notification system After all the UK is testing its own Centralized system in the Isle of Wight one of the advantages of the Google Apple system is that it keeps data on the device The latest beta of iOS 13.5 includes an option to let users delete information collected by the exposure Notification system now India's Coronavirus contact tracing app is already out and has become the fastest app to reach 50 million downloads ever beating Pokemon Go India is very proud of that right now the Prime Minister encouraged the downloads that helped you know right there from the bully pulpit The app is technically voluntary for citizens but also not Government employees are required to use it and many private employers and even landlords are requiring it as well So it's essentially mandatory In effect the app tracks Bluetooth contact events and location shows an infection risk badge and Offers access to telemedicine pharmacy and diagnostic services So it's kind of a super app not just a contact tracing app the app is whitelisted so that it doesn't count against data caps on the telco providers in India and Also, sadly does not have a privacy policy or an applicable privacy law to limit its use Probably still more functional than Pokemon Go Google updated its authenticator app on Android to now feature material design 2.0 layout and ads and important an import export tool Users can select which accounts to export which will generate a QR code to scan on a new device for import the update Also disables screen captures when displaying secure data This has been needed for a long time Very good LG launched that mid-range 6.8 inch velvet smart phone That's the one with the full HD plus OLED display 20.59 aspect ratio back camera with the raindrop arrangement a stylus in display fingerprint reader and Headphone jack if you want it fly to Korea the device cost 899,801 It's about 730 dollars in US dollars. It'll launch on all major carriers in Korea Uber is leading 170 million dollar investment round in Lyme scooters along with Bain capital and alphabets GV Uber is also giving its own scooter operation jump to Lyme Which plans to integrate it into the Lyme app and in local news Lyme is back in Oakland Oh Congratulations, we'll have a little more on uber's earnings a bit later Liberty Global and Telefonica announced the company's plan to merge the UK's Virgin Media and O2 into a 5050 owned joint venture. They were talking a lot about this on text message on Sunday If you want to get the UK perspective on that existing Virgin Media mobile customers Which currently run on Vodafone's network will be moved over to Telefonica and the merger needs UK Regulatory approval before it can happen. All right, let's talk about that zoom key base thing zoom has acquired key base which makes secure file sharing and collaboration tools as soon as Kate key base is Incorporated zoom will offer end-to-end Encrypted mode for all paid accounts key base will become a subsidiary of zoom and key bases co-founder Max crone will lead zoom security engineering team According to CEO Eric yon zoom will work with key base to determine the fate of all of its existing products Key base makes a key directory and map social media identities to encryption keys for identity verification In other zoom news the New York City Department of Education announced that Schools are now allowed to use zoom for online learning through a central New York City Department of Education zoom account With stronger encryption and storage defaults. All right, I'm gonna give you three takes on this story just go ready Go first take is the zoom take. Hey, look at us. The second take is the The middle take which is like all right zoom Convincing the New York City Department of Education with all the good changes you've been making Buying some really smart people who really know encryption really well well done I think this is a good sign and the third take is what are you doing? Why are you ruining key base? Stop? It shows that we have at least gotten used to of Packing in for this Horrifying plague that there is at least some section of society that is complaining about key base Becoming a different thing because that is a very before times kind of attitude to say no You're ruining my favorite thing as if it matters now that we look at what the world has become that being said zoom Look, this was a if you build it they were they will come think for zoom They built a product that the world needed and they didn't realize That it was their turn to get the hot spotlight until it hit them. I think it's inspired for them to say look We're gonna spend we're gonna assume that zoom is going to be a part of Society for a very long time and that means it needs to be as secure as possible Let's go to a company that has not only a good reputation, but a good track record in this and say yeah Congratulations key base now decides everything when it comes to zoom security From from the products on down. I think it's inspired. Good job for zoom That's the front if you're a zoom user looking out you see this is nothing but positive like oh my gosh Thank goodness You've been making some good changes and now you've got some of the smartest people on encryption in your team What could be better? But if you're a key base user looking in you're very disconcerted even if you're not just knee-jerk outrage by Keep by zoom saying we'll work with key base to determine the fate of its existing products Also, the guy who runs key base is gonna run all of zoom security That those aren't positive sounding things for the existing key base user Unfortunately it put puts me in mind of when United bought continental and I loved continental and I despised United and I Despised United less after they bought continental because the good things from continental sort of infected United But then it never was as good as continental Well, there we go Remember the continental Strategy analytics estimate smartwatch shipments grew 20% on the air in Q1 to 13.7 million units Apple has 55% of that market rising 23% to 6.2 million Samsung is in second with 14% of the market they rose 11% to 1.9 million and Garmin jump back up to number three for the first time in two years They have 8% market share shipping 1.1 million units. That's up 38% strategy analytics does expect a slowdown in Q2 Because we are in the middle of the lockdown, you know through Q2 But predicts a recovery in the second half as people want smartwatches for health monitoring. Oh So long ago. Did I say that the Apple watch was going to be Tim Cook's? First big legacy product and I think much like zoom a smartwatch is a pretty good place to be for a company like Apple or any of The others that we just mentioned It's cheaper than a phone it enhances the technology that already comes with with your phone or operates independently And it turns out that health monitoring is something that people are going to want more and more going forward It's not just for calorie counters anymore kids now The things that used to be well, let me get it for dad because he has a heart problem Now everybody is going to be a little bit more in tune to find out what their pulse is. Yeah, no, that's a really good point It's gone from like well, I guess if you're into fitness or have health concerns to everyone. Yeah Nintendo reports that it sold three point two nine million switch consoles last quarter up 33% on the year Lifetime sales of the consoles are now at fifty five point seven million units Which Nintendo says is more than the lifetime sales of the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube Combined the company also said that animal crossing New Horizons surpassed eleven point seven seven million in sales in the quarter But what next once villagers have a five-star island and have finished modifying it to look like Los Angeles and Blade Runner What will they play next on their newly obtained switch? There are some updates and expansions to Super Smash Brothers coming But the slate otherwise is empty Then Excel to follow up is categorized as to be announced and Nintendo said Thursday that it It sees a fall software sales this financial year to 140 million units even with animal crossing surge. Yeah, when Nintendo itself is like look We're very happy about the animal crossing thing But we're still going to retell investors don't expect us to have a rise in sales And and they have record digital download sales right now because people don't want to go out to the store to pick up the package The physical media people of course are ordering and they'd be delivered But anybody who doesn't have a stake in that game is like well, I'll just buy it here. I'm sitting here on my couch I'm gonna buy it right now and yet they're expecting 140 million unit fall It's probably the same thing that is delayed the last of us to that has caused a lot of other delays because Even as we find so many Productivity enhancements from people working from home. It seems that video game development Can't quite yet Get up to the same speed that it does when everyone's in the same room and that's a defecting Nintendo as well apparently I was going to say that You know Nintendo's weathered worse predicaments and I think you know, it's one of those things where They're setting expectations. So people don't especially Anyone who might be looking at the Nintendo's investment Might not be be jumping the gun and assuming that you know, it's plummeting off a cliff But I mean Nintendo has a history of managing You know, even from poor console sales to poor game sales, I mean they've managed through I mean they have a huge amount of money that they sit on and You know when the when times are tough, they know as a company how to kind of you know Pull back on spending well And I am I'm not going to pretend that I am a video game expert But my sense of Nintendo's corporate culture is that slow and steady wins the race They understand that their value is in novel hardware design Which they have shown, you know with the differing levels of success, but they have a hit here with the switch And their IP they don't want to devalue their IP They very rarely want to put out games that that might make people think less of Mario Luigi link and The animal crossing gang so the fact that they don't have a lot of stuff coming out here now is not all that shocking This is fairly deep into the life cycle of the switch when they front load all their IP to come out We've already gotten the Mario Kart and the Smash Brothers and the then the Zelda game and the Mario game And now animal crossing was kind of at the end of that so I think for them This is a bonus This is a found money at the end of their big rollout of the IP that people expected Yeah, or or or in a very important found money to balance out an unforeseen delay in other IP So so on the one hand. Yes, they've got a huge income from animal crossing sales on the other hand They aren't going to get the huge income from titles that they might have expected to put out earlier I mean having nothing on the roadmap right now is unusual even for Nintendo But this is one of those those stories where it's like if you're a Nintendo fan person who just wants to trumpet Nintendo Well, there's a caveat, which is like it's good news right now But it might not be good news all year long And if you're a Nintendo basher or or somebody just wants to be outraged and say ah, they're gonna yeah They're headed for the cliff. Well, it's Nintendo. They're not gonna be go out of business because of this It's it's just a a moderating effect. In fact, what this will end up being is Nintendo this year might just look Okay, like like like you would have expected them otherwise Microsoft announced an optimized for Xbox series X badge Xbox series X is the name of the next console if you haven't been following that Yeah, they just keep adding words to each generation Optimized for Xbox series X is a badge that games can put on their games to indicate They are designed to run on the forthcoming console optimize games take advantage of 4k 120 frames per second hardware acceleration Hardware accelerated ray tracing direct storage and faster load time. That's a big one direct storage uses hardware compression To take some of the IO load off the CPU like big assets that are part of open-world games They can come off the storage leaving the CPU to do a bunch of this other work that they wanted to do Physics and things like that. So this you know This is a way for you to tell when you're buying a game and you have an Xbox series X some time in the future Oh, this one's going to take the best advantage of the hardware. I have and I will also say this is sort of a backhanded way to To kind of shame developers that don't take advantage of certain hardware hooks in their hardware when they do cross-platform titles, right? Oftentimes you'll hear gamers complain of quote-unquote lazy ports that don't take advantage of the full system that they own That they bought the game for and it looks just like the game on the you know, the competitor system And they I think it part of it is the idea is that you they want owners to feel special And if owners feel special then they have expectations that the stuff they buy is special Yeah, so the badge is kind of their way to kind of sort of Push push that it's the carrot not the stick approach They're not actually shaming the developers except in absentia to say like well, you don't have that bad Yeah And and and it's something to to promote to say hey folks when you're shopping for your Xbox games Look for the optimized for Xbox series X badge to know you're getting all the K's and frames Well, you know especially with the newer games that are gonna be coming out that are for cam you're dealing with an exponential amount more of data that needs to be pushed through the system and onto your screen and You know just Managing that user experience so you're not sitting I I play 1080p games on it on my PC and Some of the load times aren't bearable even if even though all the games in my system run off an SSD There's still I'm still waiting like 30 to 40 seconds She might not seem like a long time But in some cases it feels like forever and I think they really just want to move that along This is also a another fee that Microsoft can charge to right like to get the bad Oh, you mean like a Dolby or not a Dolby. I don't know that is a good question Is this something that a developer has to pay extra to get or or I and this is what I think it is This is a reward for doing the development work This is an encouragement to say hey folks if you put in all this extra work to take advantage of these hooks Instead of just making your game across both the old Xbox one and this one We'll let you use this badge. I I think it might not require any more extra income It may just be a way to say like here's here's a little perk You're gonna get if you might this extra development My guess is is that them putting the PR behind it is part of the reason why you would want to put You know, even if it's a nominal fee, you know something Tom I got a feeling that will I am's company wink will be asking where's the love The smart home company gave users a week's notice that starting on May 13th The company will charge four dollars and ninety-nine cents monthly to retain access to wink devices from its smartphone app with voice control Or over API integrations device owners without a subscription will have automations disabled that disabled after that date boom boom pow Wink says that the change in policy as a result of long-term costs and recent economic events Adding that the company doesn't offset costs by selling user data my hub Just threw that last one in that So yeah, this is This is a company that is saying it's trying if they're trying to say hey folks We have been really good at not like mining you for data, but because of that we have no money So we're gonna start charging you in a week. I hope you understand and That's a tough one. I mean if they were giving 30 days notice, etc I think you'd see a little little less consternation here But but at any point when you change something that's been free for the life of a device To charge this is what people are afraid of and this actually doesn't happen that often people are always saying like well It's free for now, but how long will that last usually it it lasts This is one of those exceptional circumstances where the fear was realized like a ha see they started charging for it And they're not giving they're not grandfathering you in it's basically if you're there You have to pay or you don't get access to your routines Now the one thing they are doing is they're storing the routine So if you don't pay and the routines go away and then later you start paying your routines won't be deleted They're keeping everything in the cloud. You just will lose access to it until you start paying the subscription fee Yeah, we're gonna talk a lot in a few minutes about the uncertain financial roadmap for a lot of these companies But this is an example of what happens when maybe one that isn't super well run All of a sudden finds out that the balance sheet isn't what they thought that the bad news is worse than they thought And now all of a sudden they got to figure out where to get money and it turns out that their response Tom has been very 2000 and late. Yeah It's when you're asking people to just start paying 499 a month. It's hard to get it started To get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, please subscribe to Daily Tech headlines dot com Uber posted a two point nine billion dollar loss Riding down two point one billion dollars in pre-tax losses from minority investments This is them getting ahead of things though Uber had originally promised to be profitable this quarter, but they withdrew that guidance April 16th once it became very clear What's going on in this world revenue from restaurant food deliveries did rise by more than 11% on a quarterly basis But that's not nearly enough lift on the other hand Reported a surprise 23% jump in revenue and said that it's strict cost-cutting measures ensured It remained on a path to profitability so they were able to save the quarter even with a bad March and Assure investors that they're in good shape that their deliveries of other things are going to keep them through the slowdown in Deliveries of people speaking of deliveries though not all delivery companies are in the same boat Delive DEL IV which delivers groceries pharmaceuticals and more for big companies like Best Buy Walgreens and Macy's is gonna shut down in August Delive is going to transfer its delivery services to other providers and then sell off its technology assets to target so We're seeing three different companies engaged in a business that With grocery delivery of food delivery you think would be good or with ride hailing you think would be bad having not The reactions you would expect but it's not just these kinds of companies the smaller companies or the niche companies Alphabet's sidewalk labs has pulled out of a smart city project in Toronto because of economic uncertainty Sidewalk labs had worked for years with the Toronto government on a plan to test using sensors to collect data and help manage a 12-acre city development in Toronto's business district a vote to finally get that approval of its proposal was scheduled for June There'd been a lot of work on this a lot of fighting about whether they should do it and how they should do it And they just pulled the rug out from under its sidewalk labs first got permission to develop this proposal in October 2017 Submitted its master plan last June But when you are basically getting your money from a company that makes all its money from a company called Google that Makes all its money on advertising and that cash cow is looking leaner this year you don't have as much money for the other bets and that leads us to our topic for the end of the show today Justin, which is Where we are in we uncharted waters unprecedented. We've been saying it all but we are in a situation where Companies large and small are not able to do the things that they thought they would do And this is really going to change the landscape of what technology gets developed and what technology ends up in your hands Tom let's say you own a restaurant There is a difference between your air conditioner going out Maybe you got to not have people in for the weekend, right? And then you know the the city in which your restaurant is in being under a bloody coup where gunshots are ringing out in the Right, like right now what all these companies are realizing is that this is not a thing that will just be a 2020 thing and more specifically They don't know whether or not that will continue to be the case through this year through next year Through five years from now or through 10 years from now so for for to live I mean if we're gonna walk through all these individually number one uber and lift obviously the same boat there is now Far less demand for people to go from point a to b period right now in a state of lockdown They don't know how much people are going to be excited to get into cars with strangers going forward at all Right, but they have to have at least in mind that it might be years before they get back to where they're going I think that uber is probably being a little bit more honest about how bad this hurts where lift Seems to be hiding behind a bit of a crash diet in terms of how much they've cut their staff But they ultimately are dealing with the same scourge to live on the other hand looks to me Just like that that's a tech acquisition by target target realizes That as they go forward people coming into the store will be less than what it would be otherwise They need their own target will get you stuff Solution and so that's there, but the most fascinating one is is alphabet because like you mentioned Adwords is in adwords has powered everything connected to Google Every everything if anything that you might have thought well that might make no it's adwords. It's always adwords It's always been adwords Now not only are we looking at a possible recession if not depression, but also the value of those ads are diminishing much in the same way that Adwords diminished Display advertising and print and stuff or on television networks This now looks less reliable and that's terrifying for a company like Google. Yeah, I mean There's there's a lot of anybody who tells you they know where this is going is lying This is not one of those stories we could say well the consensus is it's probably gonna end up like this or or we can probably Guess what will happen is this because nobody knows and that's that's the and that's the it's not terrifying But that's the disconcerting part of all of this is everything you've gotten used to pre-20s is is no longer on the table the the Innovation coming out of small startups that then fold into bigger startups that then become products that you can buy That that is all getting disrupted and not disrupted by the innovators It's getting disrupted despite what the innovators wants So the question is are we gonna see what happened in 2007 where tech could innovate its way through it? Well tech's getting hit where it hurts this time it tech wasn't funded by by mortgage-backed securities In 2007 they're getting hit where it hurts with advertising. They're getting hit where it hurts with supply chain They're getting hit where it hurts with demand not to mention just the fact that with this many people out of work You just have a real problem with the economy having enough money circulating around to create demand for optional stuff like cell phones and wearables and we're seeing like well It looks like smart watches might be worth it because people are worried about health So there are ways to go also in the past recession We saw how people became entrepreneurs that didn't think they wanted to become Entrepreneurs because they had to because they were thrown out of work. Will that happen back then? There was a little more money kicking around the economy came back pretty fast. Will it this time? I These are the questions we have. This is not a segment. We're gonna tell you what happens This is these are the questions you got to start looking for these are the things you have to start thinking about Yeah, there's no doubt. I think everybody here in The Bay area is looking for a crystal ball and hoping that they could at least get a broad strokes on what the next five years is gonna look like Hey, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit. It's one of the ways we keep pulse on what you're interested in So get in there submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com in the mailbag today By the way, if you're like, where's Sarah Lane? Sarah Lane's got the day off. She'll be back. Don't worry We got a great email from some time contributor and friend of the show Allison Sheridan Saying not sure if this would qualify as something to offer the audience as what people are doing We've been doing that sort of like share in the love thing But Allison wanted to send this along in case it's helpful to you She says after hearing so much about the Apple Google exposure notification plan I pictured my friends and family seeing a pop-up on their phones asking for permission and them not knowing what to do I wrote a letter telling them to say yes and giving the briefest possible explanation of why then I gave a bit more depth and Then an offer to go into excruciating detail if they emailed me I wrote this as generically as possible so I could give it away for other people to modify and use for their own friends and Families I'm not asking anyone to agree with me that people should say yes But if you do think they should say yes, maybe this will help and we have a link in our show notes To the folder that she has if you want to if you want to take a look at this this way to help explain What's going on with this to your friends and family even if you don't want them to say yes necessarily you can probably pull some stuff out of Here to just explain to them what it is and what's going on All right folks shout out to our patrons at our master and grandmaster levels including John Johnston Chris Smith and Jeff Wilkes Thank you all for supporting us and thank you just right we young for being here man I was listening to px3 today, and I feel like I just have to call Andrew Heaton and tell him like yeah me too That's my political journey as well I it was one of the things I got out of today's show, but I always get so a lot of really good stuff out of it Yeah, it was a very interesting episode on Wednesday mostly because I just I kind of felt the psychic connection that I had to Call our friend Andrew Heaton who does a great political podcast in his own right called the political orphanage, but Boy howdy did he need an opportunity to just yell his show is very well written and manicured and clever so this was a raw version of Andrew Heaton a Pandemic crazy with a wild eye talking about his frustrations in our current political climate as specifically one That's been exacerbated by the the coronavirus So I would encourage everybody to go check it out politics politics politics is the show And of course you can support this show at any level we understand that more people than ever camp and that's fine That's why we have a public feed out there, and you you can support us that way or or support us by leaving a review Specifically in iTunes even if you're not an Apple user find a way in there and leave leave some stars for us That helps more people discover the show which makes the show better, and of course you can support us directly That's always the best way daily tech news show comm slash Patreon our email address is feedback at daily tech news show comm or live Monday through Friday 4 30 p.m. Eastern 20 30 utc Find out more at daily tech news show comm slash live back tomorrow with Patrick Norton and Len Peralta will be here as well See you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants calm Club hopes you have enjoyed this program You