 What's arrived on site now? That's a big drill This is starting to remind me of the Yukon era. Do you think this could be a? giga when or giga Invert, what do you mean? It's gonna be neither of those the whole community is literally fighting on Instagram right now About what this next coast is gonna be Krega thinks it's gonna be some sort of coaster that doesn't exist Jake is saying it's gonna be an invert I think it's gonna be a wing coaster and the rest of the community thinks it's gonna be some sort of a coma thing Forget it. I'm gonna put this on Instagram and we're gonna let them figure it out testing Brendan made that face twice before the screen switched Smile before the podcast How's our how's our audio today? It's your mic your mic is shit. No, it's okay. It's okay. Yeah Brendan's echo. Hello. Hello. Hello. Okay, test test echo We I swear to God, we had this perfect. We literally tested it and it was perfect So this is where it's interesting. This makes no sense Surya is probably not gonna be on the podcast for a bit obviously due to recent events He's just you know, he's taking his his own time Okay. Yeah Echo is a parent vero very Much better fix the problem. We fixed it look at us Okay, so we're gonna fix it right away so we don't have a horrible stream with echo so is this much better Yeah, okay, perfect We're gonna do it this way because we can't figure out the podcast makes they work in recording Like when we live record in the streaming software and then play it back. It's perfect But I guess on stream at echoes. Yes, we're yeah, so Yeah, we're not gonna address anything going on But obviously there are things that are gonna start taking place behind the scenes in terms of that Don't worry. We're gonna we're gonna silence someone but with that being said, how was everyone's week? I? Did nothing all week. I don't even remember Monday. You need a mic dude. I don't remember Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday or Friday I've done nothing. I think I washed my car twice. That's it. Can you believe we've been doing this for an entire month? Is this our fourth episode it is? Wow, I had a very eventful week It started actually we ended the podcast on Friday night, and we went out to Mexico and No, we're not gonna talk about what happened. We're gonna talk about what happened without what happening I mean, you're right. I can probably hold this right here, and it's more than enough So on our way home at about 3 30 in the morning. I hit a big pothole In Oakville, by the way in Oakville a big pothole that popped two of my tires instantly And yeah, so All of us didn't get home until Like six six six in the morning. I got home at six in the morning. So I had to drive on the side roads on two spares Yeah, so that was eventful so we're going out to Mexico again tonight for a big event And we're just gonna hope that Brennan drives. Okay. I'm telling you I can just drive your car No, yeah, no. She's like my precious. Yeah, and you shouldn't be driving it. That's for sure Okay, how was your week Jake? I do nothing, but I got as as Craig I I do nothing But I got a job I work at a ski home now So I worked there three times a week so I keep my brain a little bit more sane than that was for the last three weeks before that Ian what did Craig I get wrong? I'm so curious if Craig I got something wrong. I want to hear about it What was Craig's prediction about sky flyer? Okay, but yeah, that being said things are really heating up. So we fly the drone about two times a day minimum Yeah, yeah No, it's quiet So, yeah, well you might So things are picking up at Wonderland like hardcore So we have to fly like two to three times a day just to capture things No, I took the mic from Jake and I'm like you're the special guest Yeah, we have to fly two to three times a day and it requires Craig his help now because I work full-time salary and Craig has there's no winter. I work full-time salary, too Some of us just make smarter work choices. Oh, yeah Well, I'm sitting out. I'm getting paid right now. What are you doing? Yeah? I'm on my off day But yeah, so things are only gonna get more interesting this week coming and sure Craig is on on Yeah, we're waiting for the sky flyer to come toppling down it should be like any day now Thank God I can see it for my driveway What will construction look like during the off-season the same thing you con construction walls all that? but Let's get into it, so Hello, why did it stream? Why did it change this? What is that? What happened? I know what side we need give us a second. We're experiencing The Amusement Insiders podcast is currently experiencing a temporary delay Okay Okay, all right, so this beautiful machine has arrived on site Am I the only one who excited to see who won't crew of the year who won crew of the year At the end of the season season is gonna be gone, but okay, so this beautiful thing has arrived on site This is what we call a drill More specifically, what was it called again? There was a specific there was there was a whole freeze. I don't know. Yeah Anyways, it digs things like footings for structures structural drill. That's what it was called. There was it was something different from that This drill that is specifically parked on Wonderland's property can drill up to 16 meters into the ground so Leviathan's deepest footing is 9 meters so to put that into perspective That's not suggesting that this new coaster This new flying coaster. Oh, I'm sorry. What I'm kidding. I'm just rolling. It's an invert That's what Jake I want to be sure I was not signed up I'm an anti-invert person and Brendan signed me up to be the invert in the intro I am not I hate inverts inverts are the worst. I Would rather any hyper coaster over any invert period. Mm-hmm. That's wrong. It's not even an opinion So I wanted to bring I wanted to talk about this drill On site because it's really interesting actually so one is its size. So this is one of the bigger models and It's very expensive to rent so for those of you don't know construction costs are some of the biggest costs in construction I'm even surprised that this thing has sat there for two days without getting used I'm even more surprised because today if for those of you on patreon and YouTube There was no action today at the park construction crews were on vacation To the point where we were googling when family day is because we were like, why are they off on a Friday? So there was no action today. They have this drill park. They're very expensive But I wanted to bring that to attention because some of you might suggest that this is for the water slide That's not true. Water slides don't need this type of machinery for its footings The water slide would need footings for the concrete pad and all that but it wouldn't need a machine like this I had to do its footings an excavator with a drill So for those of you that are wondering, oh, could I be wrong? I did my research and I asked a lot of questions Before speaking on this and I can confirm that a drill like this could be used if they wanted to on the water slide But in most cases, they're probably aligning both projects to use this machine as quickly as possible So for example Yukon striker and Dornie Park's new iron menace They would have drilled the footers all around the same time. So you want to get those footers knocked out Footings knocked out as quickly as possible. So you can return the machine. That's costing you a fortune back to the rental company that you rented it from so Yeah, so I just wanted to talk about that because it's really interesting This is suggesting that construction on the footings for our new launch coaster that is going to be a Vekoma family is Wait speaking of which who's doing our construction so our sorry our concrete not construction concrete rather further for this concrete Right. Yes, they don't own this machine Maybe they own it instead of rented out Most construction companies from what I understood do rent their equipment though because it's really expensive Oh a lot. It's like some have big yards full of equipment that some do go the rental route. It depends. It depends. Yeah, this was dropped off, but From what I understood because I remember Jern Yukon learning that the cranes were all in rental too currently cranes a different story but yeah, but Yeah, don't we're gonna talk about a lot today extreme sky flyer is a whole topic three topics. Yeah Oh, there's an advertisement after this Okay, Jake, what do you think about this? What do you think about the drill big digger go? It spins that's what you think well next time I will move the mic over to Jake. Okay, what do you think Craig? Craig I doesn't get a mic. So what I think is gonna happen is They're gonna dig the holes all within like a span of a week And then put the machine back on the road and make Brendan more confused But they're gonna dig them all within a week or they're waiting for the guy who knows how to operate the machine or something like that Cuz that's probably really hard. Yeah, cuz if he's as precious as you he's not gonna be at work until it's perfect outside for What's what's what's your What do you think Craig up my opinion is is the construction company better on this because they've probably paid a fortune in Rental fees for having this sitting there and doing nothing, which is what's gonna be four days before Monday and they do something with it It's true. It's true. So this brings us to our first our first promo Channel, it's a sponsor by me commercial for 15 minutes in it's a commercial from me Here we go And here's the point in the podcast where I would like to take a special moment to say thank you to our podcast investors So these are the people that are in the top two positions on patreon supporting the channel So at top we have and here's that was a fail No, no, no, it's it's over it's done. Okay. That was my first attempt What can you guys hear us? Yes, you can So our first The audio cut off because I got I got excited and I hit Restart by accident. So yeah, that's what happened now look. Why is this one this is it changing anyone? I copy and paste is it changed them all? Okay, this one's titled What is going on here today give me a second I got a change It was Okay Give me a beautiful second everyone the podcast is experiencing. It's in it's a Errors moment of the era's tour This is what happens when a boomer I'm so confused as to what happened. I thought it was all set up It was but you know when I added that last side and I copied and pasted an image It looks like it redid a lot of them So I'm having a really bad day today. I'm having a bad week I just know when I go out tonight. Something bad is gonna happen. I'm telling you But yeah, so this is extreme sky flyers plot a land and if you look at it, it's really well groomed Okay, so I didn't pick them up so It is no surprise that I know what slide it was supposed to be now This one was supposed to be the announcement Yeah, it's okay. The next one will be the announcement So it is no surprise that extreme sky flyers leaving Wonderland announced it Wonderland sent me a little extra in the email to me So I got an email from Wonderland and it had a little extra bit of information in it Which we'll discuss in the next slide But the land was prepped gravel and all for the crane to come in so this ride is obviously gonna be removed for a future edition and Yeah, so I think that's really exciting. There are a couple things it could be so if you watch my video today You'll know what I discussed. I want to know what you guys think though. So pass it to Jake first Jake take all my ideas Jake. What do you think about the extreme sky flyer plot a land? It was a great spot to watch cool you'll I hope it's still there Cool you all and I hope we get our VIP area there Wouldn't that be great right by the front gate? You get to listen to flight decks trains go every once in a while But it would also be a great area for a turnaround of a roller coaster Because that is a nice open plot of land and then have the globe like imagine like a zero G roll right over the top of the globe It just looks so good Hello Don't think we can comment on that but But yeah, Grega, what are your interesting ideas about this beautiful plot of land? Well, I think personally they're gonna expand the water park here I think Look at its face. Look how mad he's getting sir. Yeah No more mental health days He's run out of it. I Did I had I think I just again a coaster spa with areas to sit and stuff underneath and that's about it Alright, well, I think that there are a couple options here. So my three options are yes, there is a chance that this could end up being the What do you call it the prestige pass VIP area? The other option is if they are gonna use international show place for the coaster Then they could be building a new more modern international show place on extreme sky flyers plot of land and then the third obvious More likely option is that the coaster is gonna be heading over this way as well But yeah, I think it's really interesting the timing I think the park sent me that additional little bit of email for a reason I think that the park's gonna have a lot of fun teasing already. I can tell Just based off of their I was not expecting that type of email I um, so I knew the surprise on the last last week's podcast was supposed to have that by the way So we were just waiting on final confirmation with the park and they were gonna send us over something to post on the podcast About extreme sky flying then got delayed by a couple days So it's really cool to see that the park is doing stuff like that because that's a little more lax than the park Typically is so I think Yeah, I think that the I think the park's gonna enter its little reputation at era and tease this next edition a lot This summer. No, I I'm expecting a lot from grace. I don't know. I think grace has stuff up her sleeves No, it's not only grace It's more than grace but grace is like, you know, so I'm just I'm really excited about that because I think like I'm just really excited. I love park teasing and I like that. We don't know this is new for us by the way Like this time last year. We knew it was a dive coaster. Sorry It let's picture this year was 2018 and next year was 2019. We knew it was a dive coaster already, right? We did. Yeah The tunnel the track piece at us go. We were doing good But yeah, so I don't know. I'm really excited to see what this turns out to be so I'm gonna skip to the next slide pay Give me some time to switch it over Let's see Well, things just work for me, please There we go, perfect. Oh That's perfect. Oh, boom There we go. Can I read it? You sure go ahead after 26 years of thrilling guests extreme sky flyer has been retired And is being removed from canada's wonderland the attraction opened in 1996 and operated every year except 2020 Guests were lifted in a harness 47 meters high before free falling and swinging Damn, I was going so strong too free falling and swinging out over What grand royal expo? Thank you. Extreme sky flyer gave a total of 1.179 million rides by the end of the 2023 season The area the area is part of the park's plan for future development, but no details are available at this time Anything you hear take with a grain of salt That's the famous saying now so until the park makes an official announcement Um, there's a great a sander soul the song greg with a grain of salt You have all people in one of my videos. I made a joke titled to you. I said the salt trucks are out spinning tonight That's me But yeah, so I'm I'm excited, um, you know It's no so it's no What's the word i'm looking for Uh, surprise. It's no surprise or it's not the word i'm looking for but i'll use that anyways My vocabulary is really bad if you can't tell i'm like donald trump, but not sim pinions um It's no surprise that the park, um removes a ride for no reason like the seed That's not the right word the park's not removing this ride for no reason So This ride was due to retire a year from now and they had the option to renew it But they chose not to and then they chose to remove it a year earlier. So I definitely think this is for 2025. Um, but again, we can't rule out a 2024 investment as well replacing this attraction. Yeah But yeah, I thought that was exciting Let's skip. Oh wait, we have anyone else any opinions about the wording in that last paragraph from the park Future development means forward as in the future Okay, anyway What in miscongeniality was that is there anything going on do you would you like to let the world know anything else? You want world peace? I'm just making it clear for other people who didn't know I was making it clear For the people who don't know what the word future means it means What's coming up so like They're going to be building something there in The coming seasons for people who don't know what the word future is I was just trying to be helpful for the people who didn't pass grade one english Okay, so when I say stupid things I get dirty looks But we let jake ramble on about stupid things for five minutes without a problem Let miscongeniality finish. Oh, he's not done. Oh, what else would you like the world to uh? What are your goals for 2024 miscongeniality goals? Yeah, make sure everybody knows leviathan is better than every other ride in the park My god All right, we're going to the next slide. All right. Oh, it's a big one Yeah All right future expansion areas so in the beautiful orange. We have our beautiful family Launch coaster and You mean family gci No, I think it's actually a launched rmc coming out of the mountain is what i've been hearing. Oh, yeah Yeah, the green is an unknown area will it be for the new launch coaster or will it be for a vip area? The purple area is a rumored but not quite rumored uh ride removals over the next three years What do you guys think? What are your opinions? Do you think the coaster will take up more than this circled orange plot of land? What do you think about the ride removals of flight deck in terms of the ride removals? Um, I am going to speak for all 140 of you in here. I know Flight deck and time warp has nothing to do with any of you guys and none of you ride it on any of your visits And it's completely useless to the park so Um, I wouldn't be mad if it was put in the garbage tomorrow and not even announced but you know That's uh, that's my opinion on that I think your orange drawing is wrong. Yeah, what's wrong about it? I think it's going to take up more space You think it's going to take up more? Yeah So there have okay, go go go. No, no, you go not like by much more But I remember you saying or even I think we saw it in that that survey. Wasn't it supposed to go on that grass area near Near thing and no it shows it a little bit off to the side over vortexes lift and drop Not in the over the grass hill where lazy bear is that's what was that But I do want to stress and this information is to be taken with a massive salt Like load in the back of a salter Take it as like pure speculation with no backing whatsoever But I have heard that this coaster might touch alpine a little bit. Um, what's alpine? Alpin, um, it's essentially like uh all those uh little Yeah I personally really don't see that like truthfully I think that the orange highlighted area is more than enough. It's about 300 feet longer in like space than yukon striker. Is that right shake? Oh my god We didn't do this properly and brennan wanted to prove a point and he measured yukon wrong on purpose Look at his face. I didn't measure it wrong. You did. No, you measured it right the first time Then you moved it and it was wrong Mm-hmm Yes, brennan being the petty person he is Wanted to make me think that this coaster is bigger than yukon striker Which it probably will be but in terms of landslides. I don't know Time warp is the best smelling coaster at wonderland Um Anyways, i'm getting um, so yeah It's interesting. Do I think that there's some truth to flight deck and time warp? Obviously Do I think that it is solidified? No, I do not I do not think wonderland has a plan for the purple area yet So I want to talk about this So recently there's been a lot of talk from some other youtubers And even an organization About these two specific coasters But I think a lot of people are forgetting that there was a survey about a family gci in whitewater canyon The park also stated in a tpm vids that they were not done with frontier canada and that it was just the beginning so I personally think that they're going to build this coaster. They're going to enhance world expo and the world expo coaster Whether this one ends up being a mountain or world expo that's still up in the air air right area or air air Um But their future world expo coaster isn't planned yet in my opinion All right, so I think because we saw the what is the the promo. What's the thing called the We're the the survey. Okay in the survey. We had the photo of The coaster over here and then the coaster in the back. We also saw markings in the back in 2021 I think wonderland's like, okay, we need a big coaster to bring in the thrill seekers So they flop flip flop the two coasters. So we're going to do this one first and speed ahead with the Whatever this coaster will be and then the gci will be in the back second And that was originally their plan to do it next after tundra twister whenever that does happen But they had to flip flop it Kind of like how valray vinn opened before you construct her. Yeah kind of What do you think about that? I gave my opinion first. I said your orange area was wrong You know what what what do you think about the beautiful not spray farm themed area in the back of the park that was in that survey Do you even know what I'm talking about? I know that's I think I saw all the pictures of the survey. Oh, perfect This is rare, but I don't remember them Do you see one of them had a water tower, right? Was it this this? That's a photo, right? Yes water tower Yes, but I couldn't tell you where that was. It was like an old pioneer village with a graveyard Okay, but even the other kids ride has a graveyard. What's with the dark kids ride coaster? I know right back well not back Well, what's it? What's what's what's what's theme park companies killing off parents and making kids areas really dark themed What is our kids ride called? Which one coaster coaster that one? Thank you. It's themed to a thing to a graveyard Oh, I haven't been on coaster coaster for so long Um But I yes, so I do want to stress though so to counter my own statement Um, I was able to find the portfolio for the launched flying coaster Um But I was not able to find the portfolio for the gci family coaster interesting Unless it was a different company. I mean it was a much bigger project. So maybe it wasn't the individual That designed the theming for the launch flying coaster Wing coaster flying coaster invert coaster. Yeah mock spinner What else serve coaster whatever it may be All right This next slide is brought to you by the birdies of amusement insider Sir and amusement insiders Nice Where? What is this always this one? Launch radius. Alrighty I want you guys to pay attention to this very closely The information I am presenting to you in this current picture is actually very accurate To my understanding take this with a grain of salt until the park makes a statement So you're going to see a couple of things that aren't making sense to you Craig if you want to try and make sense of this picture to people and then I'll correct you This will be funny. I know exactly what's going on here and you guys don't So There are Um, so there's an area here. So let's in this photo. I can't point at the photo. Okay, so what are the three x's in the photo I feel like that Area is a hole. It's going to be a hole between the three x's and the blue circle Yeah between the three x's in the blue circle. That's going to be a hole I think it's going to launch from green line here and where this x is where the green line connects Is where the launch track is going to stop and it's going to go into some sort of element out of the mountain That's what I think that is my guess Why don't you pass the microphone to Jake? Let's see what Jake can because he usually says stupid things Launch coaster go boom Um, yes, I'm going to go with krega here It's going to be a big hole in the mountain in between the three x's and the half circle thing That's a quarter of a circle. It's a real one. Um, and then the the supports Are going to be on the side that faces lazy bear So when you take a photo from the front of the mountain, you see the coaster and not the supports If it doesn't in like an inversion or whatever. So you you would see the train not the supports if I had to guess Yeah, or would like twist Yeah Brendan All right, so the three colored lines. I'm going to explain it to our audience So they can understand it your launched coaster your launched flying coaster Is going to either launch down the yellow path the green path or the pink path Those are the three only lines it can travel based off of information We have your three orange x's at the top are important parts of surveying We have found online on a map Um, and your blue line is the radius So what kregis said is most likely true that that is where you'll see them cut out the mountain um It doesn't mean that they're going to cut out the section where thunder run is and remove that part of thunder run It just means that Current top part of the mountain is going to come out Um, and your launch coaster is going to exit somewhere up there. Whether it be the first predominant orange x or in that circle is to be determined, but um Those are the three paths if they're to keep the tunnel it obviously has to go down the pink path So that changes things a little bit um The most common path it should travel um is green, which means the tunnel does need to be remodeled And I do want to stress that the current tunnel size And the current tunnel mapping based off of construction updates so far is impossible for it to be a four-seater or a um wing coaster Four-seaters still it can't fit a four-seater right now right now. Yeah at the state of itself right now. Um Can you explain to everybody what the black line is the black line is the earliest moment? It can start pulling out so anytime after that black line to that blue radius Is when the coaster can start to pull up and enter into the imelmen Or whatever it is. Yeah, so I do want to stress Should we should we talk about this now? Yeah, let's talk about this now manufacturers Manufacturers All right, so we got arm. No, I'm kidding We have bnm. We have three models It could be a two-seater Invert like they have at uh or building at bush gardens the surf coaster The sit-down coaster like they're doing penguin trek. Those are the three so far then we have Vakoma flyer Why'd you say it like that? Almost I thought I messed up. Do you need water? No. No. I'm good. Okay. I need vakoma flyer vakoma sit-down or A mock sit-down or I don't know about a mock spinner. It might not fit because it spins, but you know Craig what manufacturers are you thinking in your head? I went through everyone ford That's that's I mean accurate that's probably in your head right now He is actually uh, can we can we get a little cheer in the chat for krega? He's missing a car meat for this. I am I wanted to go. Well, I didn't want to go. I wanted to come here, but still Um, do you have anything to add? You can what what do you think the manufacturer is going to be honestly like deep down? I've changed my opinion I don't even have an honest deep down, but I want An invert and if it's a launch invert that'll just make an invert that much better Yeah, I mean it would be such a slap to the face to king's dominion fans I don't know why but sure You don't know about volcano. What's volcano? Volcano the blast coaster from king's dominion volcano the what volcano the blast coaster. I've never heard of this It was mb. Um So What manufacturer it's the la paloma plaza. Yeah What manufacturer do I think it's gonna be? What do you think? I don't know you tell it Would you ask me for I don't know what you think it's gonna be We can't sit inside of your brain as much as we want to As much as you maybe want to wait. Why do you want to sit in my brain? What's going on? It's not a lot um I'm really I really really think that um He doesn't know no I do but like no like I don't know but like I have strong opinions that it's going to be vakoma But like I just know wonderland's relationship with b&m and like the people hire up at the park that made decisions in the past And I just can't see them I did yes, I just Do I really think that wonderland's not going to build a b&m? No, but do I see evidence that this is going to be a vakoma? Yes, I do A b&m cannot fit in that tunnel Four seats four seats But even two seats like you think about the like think about me reaching all the way out of a b&m sit down I would hit that wall and you'd hit that wall just walking through the tunnel. Yeah, like so that's what I'm saying like Hold on we're gonna we're gonna go to the waiting room. We're gonna come back and they're gonna be gone There's no way that went over your head but um I don't know. I just I I just I I see evidence that this is going to be a vakoma, but I mean the same thing applies if I reach outside of a vakoma, I'd hit the side Well vakoma has over the shoulder so you don't reach it as far You can't really reach out. Yeah, it's it's really interesting as someone who's flown and looked at the construction himself The construction going on over this tunnel. Is it not weird? We both know every single time since 2019 that I flowed the drone I'll send b&m like 20 minutes with the drone footage. Hey b&m nothing happened Here's your footage and then we get an update the next morning and you can see exactly what happened Yeah, he literally like filmed the other day and he's like nothing happened And I'm like, what do you mean? They're literally like the sides of like the tunnel and he's like, oh, I didn't see it And then like yesterday I was like to fly the drone And then I was like, hey, krega, can you just keep an eye on that like um the little drill bit at wonderland? Just let me know where it is at 5 p.m. Completely forgets. I completely forgot to film it Um But yeah, um Again, it's the call like Are you okay? If you had to pick two manufacturers that this is going to be jake, what would you pick? Oh, um Vakoma and mock You're leaving out b&m Okay, jakes jakes saying vakoma or mock. Okay. Okay. I don't know it's going to be vakoma or um Zamperilla, that's what I'm thinking. Okay. Yeah, okay, krega I want b&m invert. That's it. That's it. That's all I want to see. Okay Okay, I want or you think both Um, I'm gonna say vakoma or b&m They tried vakoma. They didn't do a good job b&m Look at the gray vakoma ride that would be directly next to it. That's failing right now. Yeah, but new vakomas I don't care Wait, what ride next to it is failing skyrider sky flight deck that one. Thank you flight deck. Oh, that's you see Yeah, that's like that's vakoma. That's old vakoma. They have like enthusiast designing their stuff now. Don't they? Yeah So Yeah invert There is a chance there is a chance it's an invert, but it may not be your b&m invert Who else makes oh, I guess vakoma vakoma Aren't they good though and there's a rumor that there's a vakoma inverted launch coaster being built for 2024. Isn't there not I'm not saying that's wonderland Not north america Not that I know Correct us in the chat, please Yeah, jack is right the tunnel is going to need to be redesigned no matter what or you're going to be in like Those like you know how coasters have those little side pieces that prevent guests from reaching out They could go that way too. That would suck, but Gerstler, I don't think so. It's been a while 2018 since one Cedar fairies work with Gerstler And it didn't seem very good because they haven't gone with Gerstler ever since I don't know much about amota, but yeah yeah Velocicose on earth. I wish I honestly wish um That we would be looking at the yeah, the only reason we don't see uh, velocicoster is because Uh, zemperla is doing top thrill 2 if it was intimate. I would highly suggest that this could be an instrument, but uh top thrill 2 is zemperla Yeah We've always been doing now if nobody's buying their rides People are buying their ride Like oh my god, they got a really good contract with universal studios. Yeah, like people buy their rides Yeah, they got like a hundred million dollars from um Hagrid's all that um Are you serious? So when I did that You messed everything. Oh my goodness. That's perfect. Oh my goodness Justice for krega All right back lot back lock cafe back lock cafe. Does anybody know what is missing? I really hope you're it's not wet That's not a bed What is missing here doing up there? What is missing on this photo that you guys see right here? The sign yes, the sign is gone and as you might may or may not know a couple construction construction updates back They were removing the tables from inside of the cafe. Yeah, so anything else? Yeah, they've gutted the inside of the building. Um, you can even see in there the floor has been ripped up Um, and the sign's gone the furniture is gone Um, I don't think it's going to be a hard reno at any shape form I think there's going to be a new equipment in there to change up the menu in there Um, I think it's going to be a new name or new theme. Hopefully Um, I think back lock cafe is so confusing because I always get it mixed up with coasters Um, because it's not close to back lot the roller coaster Um, so I always get those two confused. It confuses me if it confuses me it confuses the general public. Yeah I think we need og back lot theming back. That's that's getting the gardens. I want whatever you just said I want that Ginza garden. Ginza garden that I want that Say one say say what he just said. What'd you say? Ginza gardens? Ginza gardens That's so embarrassing that you need to like it said three times. It's so weird Well, I was gonna say guineasy the first time I was lost Um But yeah, I'm I'm really excited wonderland's already been working on their menu. We've seen some teasers of new burgers So that's really exciting. Um Um What was I just thinking you guys keep the conversation going Coasters was also receiving No, I've seen no movement over there. I've been watching it like a hawk. Yeah, I thought coaster. I thought you said something They did the measuring and then disappeared. Yeah, you said something about it. Yeah, I've seen nothing about 2025 Maybe a coaster is 2025 right now Um, well, I was just going to talk about it. The coaster is going on that side of back lot Yeah cafe or whatever the new name is now Mm-hmm What was I gonna do Subscribe to the patreon guys for photos like this before the photos actually do end up coming out on the youtube videos and the streams Um, patreon link is in the description down below And one of the mods are going to put the discord link in the chat as well Don't forget to join discord. We are in there chatting every single night Mostly about other things and not coasters, but you know, you can join us if you'd like Yeah, definitely join uh discord. It's been really active lately. Oh, yeah um Patreon yes You get access photos. So like Brendan flies a drone for example at 12 o'clock the photos go out around 4 30 And then yeah, he has work and stuff Um, and then the next day Like 12 o'clock is when the video from those photos happens So you have like what 16 hours if my math is right ish that before the video has actually come out with those photos So, yeah Links in the description and in the chat. Yeah So I was gonna talk about something. I'm not gonna lie. It exited my head so quick. It's okay. That means it wasn't important Oh boy Oh That's what it was back. I have to comment on your guys's instagram posts. What? Oh So recently or like how long ago we put a thing out on the amusement insider's instagram What do you think is coming in 2025 and brendon is going to read them off for us here And we're going to react to it and see what we think is going what you guys think is thinking That's not the proper term. We are going to make fun of your guys's opinions Ah Who's that sexy even more offensive is that's in my car and i'm not in the photo. Oh Um, okay, so here we have the poll results Can you just read it? Yeah, okay Um, what do you guys think it's going to be the 2025 coaster and wing coaster came in at 34 Invert came in at 38 percent and other came in at 29 percent You guys really think it's going to be an invert. I hate the inverts I hate you That's hates a strong word. It's the right word. Oh my goodness the girls are fighting All right, I'm going to start reacting to some comments It doesn't know the change of time Okay, the first comment the change of change of topic I hate if our 2025 coaster is a launch slc like flight deck, but even more painful Vakoma has fixed themselves. They don't make bad Things they don't make uncomfortable like flight deck anymore Well, this person just went on spam. So i'm going to skip them. Um Um What lauren asks what is your preferred manufacturer? Um for wonderland's mountain coaster and why what is your preferred manufacturer? Yeah B&M. Yeah, b&m because the park already works with b&m and it's cheaper for them to order parts all at the same time Why would you prefer if it's cheaper for them? Well, because then we have more money for more investments Yeah, oh yeah, yeah for jake's past salary. All I hear is too boring enthusiasts giving their opinion I will not be called that Watch them say RMC. I my preferred manufacturer would be intimate Okay, actually low key. Yeah for real He said preferred that's going to happen. That's what I was thinking Dominica asks 2031 is wonderland's 50th anniversary is 2025 the last big coaster before then Definitely not we're going to get one more in 2027 or 28 and then we're going to get a 2031 coaster. Yeah Wait, when's our anniversary 2031? Do you think this will boost general public attendance these are questions more than statements Um, yeah, obviously, um We're not going to pull a twist of timbers Here's a good question. If the coaster is an invert Do you think it's going to have two or four seats? Well, in this current spacing it can only fit two technically. Mm-hmm Two so far, but we do not know Let me make that clear not yet Until the park makes an official announcement. What other roller coaster manufacturers excluding bnnm are more likely to build the 2025 So you heard from Eva coma What do you guys think other than bnnm mock? Yeah, you think You think wonderland's gonna launch Can mock even get that high Yes, I felt good quality coaster. I I rode on that granny coaster at uh carowans Covered straight made good rides. They do their launches are like, um, thunder run. Yeah, like they're like they're like There's like there's cragis car, which is like a velocity coaster. Yeah, so let's use top drill dragster And brennan's car is like velocity. Yeah, my car is like, uh copperhead strike Josh asks the genuine disappointment. I will feel if it's a wing is unparalleled to anything else accurate That wasn't a question. That was a statement. That's what I wanted Well, then why did he ask it? I wanted to react to people's statements. No, no, you said he asked he didn't ask he stated I got murder on my mind Um, truly think that wonderland will not get a wing coaster because of king's dominion's leaked coaster That is a leaked coaster. So king's dominion has a really tiny pathetic. No, I'm kidding. People do like it Um, it has a cooler layout than most wing coasters to be honest to give it credit But um, they had they had a leaked Layout, yeah, I want to see it. Okay. Let me pull this out. I didn't mean wait. Can you pull it open your phone? Yeah, I didn't mean this current second That is a valid statement though just to touch on that Yeah, yeah that like it would also be cheaper for b&m to manufacture two things at once So if they wanted to go all out they could do two of the same Coasters at the same time it's cheaper to manufacture two of the same type of train and two of the same type of launches So the same to track etc etc. Yeah What do you think will come to the park in 2026 an sns free, um screaming swing Crashin wagon spot a bun An elpin. Yeah over the lake. What are they gonna theme it to like a lake? You can It would be so they don't need to theme it. It's a good ride And someone just sent me oh wow that is really tall to be honest Brandon watch this video of the mock rides coaster beyond the cloud. I will do that. I promise I will do that Can you explain why you think the coaster being themed to giga goose would be the best idea ever? Oh, I know who that is no That's that's a frontier canada Is the wing coaster confirmed I would actually state Otherwise I would state otherwise. So let's talk about this. I should have had the I should have had the artwork up I should have the artwork up Okay, can you guys say why you don't think the wing coaster is confirmed? Why quickly go get something ready? Okay, so we have um something. Oh my I can't see myself anymore Um the wing coaster like before you even get to the seats is wider than an invert train Like the part where it comes up out and then to the side before the seats even start it's wider than an invert train So like I don't even think that that's gonna be possible. Um what the tunnel that we see now In addition to that In addition to that, um The tunnel there, uh, they haven't they're like taking the bricks off the top But it looks like they're just like picking it up one at a time putting them to the side one at a time You know like this they're being very careful with it. They're taking their time with it. Um, they're not You know, Brendan is here doing whatever They gave you they keep they take one of those They take their time doing that I got distracted by the photo Um, so and they we haven't seen any like progress of them taking the tunnel apart They're just taking what's on top of the tunnel away. Uh, so we'll see what could happen or uh is going to happen But that that all depends On what Brendan's about to show you in five four three two one Wow, even your countdown was wrong. Wow, would you look at that? Let's cover that ugly family. I'm jealous. Um, oh, you can't hear me Welcome back. That's probably for the better. Okay. Look at this carefully Well, according to your schematic that we had in a previous and in a previous slide The launch part is not in the right area. Yeah, it's not but that is just a rendering. Yeah Um, so You at jake and I you and I talked about this actually a little earlier about that one element after the emelman I'm so can you tell me about the support structure used? In the rendering here, okay So the sports support structure that you can see in the rendering is a suspended coaster support structure So the track is underneath and then there's two two There's two sides So one like there's a bar at the top and then there's one on either side Which comes down a wing coaster in this case when it's when a wing coaster is not inverting It would just be one pole straight down the middle there wouldn't be two supports mm-hmm Also that one element where it just turns Like that is very flying coaster. Like yeah, that is a very flat that element there. You can also see the support structure And so that twist that were there too is also very flying coaster-esque Yeah, kind of yeah Um, so it'll be interesting the interesting. Yeah, the only issue from a b&m flying coaster And this is taking from an al-tahur ryan video is They don't operate too well in the rain and their trains are very suspected to the the rain Like if they're sitting on the brakes in the rain, they uh, they don't operate too well So they can't really operate in the rain Yeah, the trains are invert trains. Yes. Um, but I don't know. I don't know. It'll be really interesting It'll be really interesting There is more artwork by the way, but yeah um What do you think krega? You do this to me for all the time. We always say the good stuff first and krega Yeah, and then I get screwed like this is so okay. He gets to go first now You just did that to yourself Yeah, yeah, okay, go Well, now I'm lasting and I don't know I want an invert. I don't like it. That's though. I'm not gonna lie to you. Whatever this s This this turnaround that is the ugliest looking thing I've ever seen in my entire life It really is and even where it's egg-using from the mountain. I I like our prediction better I'm not gonna lie. I don't like that egg issue like There's nothing there on that There that part of the mountain in the top over there. Well, that would be entering Through vortex truthfully that would literally be like Through the turn around. Yeah, I wouldn't fit where that is. No, it wouldn't Ten vortex would have two coasters built into it But if it somehow was moved over to the other side of that big waterfall But I was more so getting the idea so one so Ignore the elements like this isn't the layout by the way Because this is a hundred percent was created for just survey purposes in my opinion. However The artist would have been given details about kind of like what concept they were going to go forward with so I believe that the artist would have been drawing what they Think was going to get built and they would have done their research and blah blah blah and the company the person That designed this artwork. I can confirm nose coasters Very well They've worked on all of cedar affairs newest editions in terms of theming design and everything They've worked on ferrari world and they've done projects for lego land. So they know their coasters. They've worked specifically on theming for coasters So, um, this isn't one of those things where they just ai generated it or asked an artist in toronto This is someone that literally works for a company that designs theme parks storylines and themes for coasters so um to give you an example This company and this person would have come up with something like frontier canada. Um, if he was hired on back then But he was not So, yeah, very interesting Can you imagine that job? That's such a like such a cool job description. Yeah roller coaster roller coaster story designer Craig I quit playing with the mic and he gets picking up wind Um, but yeah, I thought that was just I wanted to talk about that because I did want to Stress that I don't think that this artist was that dumb um I'm thinking that maybe maybe wonderland was a little smarter with those surveys And said wing coaster to throw us off from what it actually is and then surprise us with an invert Well, they also did have a wing coaster one though, but was the description of this both were called wings. Yeah You can also see the supports are floating. So it is not realistic As much as we want to say this looks realistic The inline twist doesn't even have a support It's the tree. Um, but yeah, I just uh wanted to talk about let's continue reading. Um, how many inversions do you think it's going to have? Seven how many does banshee have six? Okay, if it's an invert. Yeah, I think seven If it's a wing, I don't know if it's a wing, it's gonna have five. Yeah Um, oh my god, I just lost track. Uh, what do you think the name will be similar to leviathan and behemoth dragon coaster? No, it's not going to be says either What do you think the name's going to be? It really depends where it's going to go by the way coaster one seems too intense for me Banshee has seven versions apparently. Oh, right See, I didn't like the ride that much Yeah, this is not an official render by the way. This was just something used to um survey their guests on a survey that went out This came out in july the 13th or 10th And actually I had this conversation with krega someone just set brought it up I want to touch on that wonderland does like worlds first. Um when it comes to coasters wonderland actually used to hold I don't know if they still hold but I do remember they held this dearly Um having the most diverse collection of roller coasters in the world So again, I don't see them. Um Doing something that they wouldn't have but the launch coaster would in fact no matter what they build is gonna As long as it's not a launch sit down Uh, but if it's a launch sit down inverting then it would be different than back lot But yeah, so just think about that food for thought But it doesn't really change things because the launch is gonna make it a first anyways And canada's fastest which they're gonna take back from peony playland. Yeah, you know, they want that back as much as they advertise that They're just gonna launch back Just turn the launch up on back lot Uh, when do you think we'll get an official? When do you think we'll get an official coaster announcement? It's august 16th the thursday that of the week of national roller coaster day Is that really when they do it when they that's when cedar point does theirs They do it on the third that's when we announced ucon too. They do it on the thursday Here, let me let me pull my calendar out. Oh, yeah, you come as the 15th So then they do theirs on whatever day they felt like sells the most season passes the thursday One second Okay, I just gargled. What records do you think slash hope it would break? The week Tallest fast as long as the launched invert most inverting steepest drop I wouldn't even have a drop Most inverting drop spins to what it's like a double barrel roll drop World's largest pretzel loop They can probably get 10 at 10 world records if they tried hard fastest airtime hill on a vnm flying coaster Most launches Okay, I'm trying to catch up Am I caught up give me a second tallest fastest longest most inverting steepest we have a question for jake Oh What is a block zone? Well, for those of you who are unfamiliar a block zone is a section of ride that only one train may occupy At the end of a block zone is a method to stop a train in case the block zone ahead is still occupied This is the safety system that prevents roller coaster trains from colliding with one another That is taken for a mental tour ryan video. I don't know. He just sounds better saying it Um Do you think that the coaster could be the news in perla lightning launch model? No, I do not I don't know what that is. I don't know. I mean, there's a chance, but I just don't see it I just don't see it. Not so soon to top throw Here's one from syria. He did this to bother me So syria says maybe they will fix uconn striker and make it a good ride It's already fixed I was watching one of your tiktoks and it was a train being dispatched from the viathan and everybody clapping like this And he's like nobody does this for uconn It's so true Um, is is the tunnel you keep showing on video is where the launch will be for the new ride That is what is suspected. Yes Um, it would they need to start soon. So jake let you did the research you went back on my youtube videos Can you describe people a timeline? Let's say this year was i'm going to put into perspective before you talk We're in 2018. Okay, let's say our new launch coaster was opening in 2019. We're 2018 same month time frame. So february Can you put into perspective uconn now? Okay, so uconn started its um footer footing digging in um around late january the 20th mark and then the track showed up on the 28th um But the track was not needed until the tunnel was finished in march 16th Uh, which when that's when they finally put the top of the tunnel on and the track and then the tarps went on The track was in there. So that was like march 16th is when the track came on and then the park opened The they did all their stuff and then you know from there. Is that is that a good? Yeah. Yeah, okay Yeah, so we need to start seeing things but it's beautiful because the footer the footing digger is here Um on time on time same as last year a little like two weeks later Maybe yeah, we're we're about two weeks behind uconn striker construction But uconn striker also had a massive tunnel that needed to sit for uh, what is it 30 days before they can put anything inside of it? Yeah um Do you think wonderland could eventually get a universal city walk type district to go along with the resort Yeah I do. I don't think it's likely likely, but I think it's possible I don't need what what's universal city walk is like almost like a free to enter all these restaurants and clubs Well, I'm used to be like that technically was it not you could go in for free with uh without a stamp Yeah, but this is more. Yeah, it would be really awesome for wonderland to have it I don't know if they have the land to experiment with that If anybody knows it is you What if they have the land to experiment with that kings would yes I know enthusiasts get every Enthusiasts get so angry when I mentioned kigs one for a resort. They get so angry. It'd be great I get sent renderings of where a resort would better fit Because people get so triggered by my idea of kings would um becoming a resort If they put something like top floor two over a flight deck time warp in kingswood and then had the Coaster with a glass floor like a hotel Over top of the coaster with a glass floor so you could see the trains is launching You know what I mean? And then you're like the hotel supports on either side of the coasters launch track Then the top hats like over the parking lot So when would we start seeing track on site for this ride earlier late this year early? You should start seeing it in the next two months backs They could also be fabricating the track inside of the mountain I'm kidding. It's got little oompa loompas. That's where it comes from. Yeah um Oh more questions. Uh Is there evidence yet that the new coaster will be tie into the possible hard front gate reno? Yes, it could there's evidence ish, but no concrete evidence. Yeah, but there there's a possibility it could because they didn't remove extreme There's a possibility they could do something like gatekeeper as you can see they are doing The back half of the front gate. That's what I'm going to call it Underneath of Leviathan and then they could put something like gatekeeper They could I don't know have not that this is going to happen But they could put like a spike over top of the front gate and have it roll back. That'd be pretty cool Yeah, and are we going uh, this is from jake up. Are we going to see any unique inversions or elements? Or are we gonna have traditional ones? I think there's evidence based on the manufacturer I think there's evidence with king's dominions do wing coaster that cedar fair is starting to think a little bit outside the box or The burped Um or ask for a little outside the box. So yeah, I do think we're going to see some new elements again We love worlds first Mm-hmm That's it for instagram. 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