 Ond yn y troffi'n TV, I am joined by Graham Sharpe, one of our best ever centre forwards. Look at the smile there. Graham, obviously the film Howard's Way is in cinemas now. It's at St George's Hall as well. I mean, how important in your eyes is it for this team to be remembered or recognised? Yeah, I think it's easy to forget. I think everything football was invented when the Premier League was set up. And I think they forget about how successful we were as a team. But I think it was great when the idea was first put to us. We would be interested in doing it. I think everyone said right away, yeah, why not? Because it's got fantastic memories for us as a group of players, but also for the fans and the footage in the film as well, was showing you what it was like for the fans travelling down to Wembley and all the occasions we've done that in European football. So I think it's important to let people know that, even when a big site in the 80s and a really good site at that. So I think everybody who will watch the film will really, really enjoy it. I think it's frustrating as a fan when, not to us, because obviously for me, personally, that's the standard I'll live in too, because that was me growing up as a boy. But frustrating when we are, we seem to have slipped between the cracks with the media and people like that and people who look back. You're absolutely right, the Premier League is to be all on end all. But as a player, there's that frustration you're as well, and you think, hang on, we were a great try, are we over to the best team in Europe? I think, listen, we've got our own memories. My son has seen the film and it was great for him to see it. Obviously he wasn't born, he was too young to watch it, but for him to see it. He's heard all about it, he's not actually seen what it was about, so it was fantastic for him. But I think we have to let the younger generation, let the younger generation soaked in the Premier League and what it's all about and the players nowadays and the stats and everything else. And they forget about Everton Football Club as a club and what it was and the standards that it set and what you had to reach. When we came in, we were well aware of the team of the 70s and the fantastic players they had before that, Alex Chong. So it's important to let the younger generation know that this was a massive football club. Still is a massive football club, don't get me wrong. But it's a club that is steeped in history. Of course we want to be up there now, but let's not forget that for unfortunate reasons we were denied the opportunity to maybe go on and kick on not just as a team but as a football club in general. So I think it's good to tell the story again, but it's also good to tell the story of Liverpool at that time how difficult it was for supporters to attend football matches. There was a lot of unemployment in the city and it was a real tough, tough place to grow up in, obviously, but also to play football in. And I think it's a good story. I think it really is a good story and it's good that all the lads were involved in it as well. We even know it took a lot of travelling and rubs that had gone to Australia to interview Mclynes, interview Gary Stevens, but I think what he's produced is very good and I think a lot of people will really enjoy it. What do you think, you've had a touch on it there, what do you think this team could have achieved if circumstances may have been different? People talk about the European Cup, but the European Cup in those days, you could have got hard drawn in the first round, you could have got knocked out, you don't know cup competitions, I think you need a little bit of luck with the draw at times, but no, certainly in terms of league titles, more, absolutely more. Obviously, the ban led to the breakup of the team, but did you know how it moved on and Trevor and Gary moved up to Rangers? And it just broke up and obviously Andy Winn and different things. I'm just thinking that you looked at it and you think it had a big effect, it had a big effect on the players as well. When you're a player and you're looking at it and you're seeing your best players or better players leaving to go to Rangers and no disrespect, Scottish football at that time, there's no one here English football, still isn't now, but Rangers were paying the money and were in European competition, so that was a draw for them, so it was sad to see that happening and I think the European ban done that. When you look at the European ban as well, wasn't it English? The English had a problem with religionism, that was all throughout Europe, and in fact, we were the only ones to get punished and we were in Rotterdam a few months before, having a great time and supporters playing football with the police and everything else, and the reputation to take it away from us was really harsh and it took the government decision at the time, the FA, I don't think the bat causes a club strongly enough, and it led to the, you know, us not participating in European football for, was it five years? So that's massive. I imagine that happening nowadays to one of the big clubs, you know what I mean? Exactly, so you look at it, so it was sad that we couldn't challenge ourselves in the next year against better opposition, you know, we had a taste up with Bayern Munich and everybody talks about that now and how good the night was here, we were deprived of that the following seasons, and that's a really disappointing thing. Listen, could we have won it? We won't, no. We would have had a real good go, definitely, we had a group of players and a hunger and a passion and a desire to do as well as we possibly could, and I think that was epitomising the team. I think, you know, you look at those players and you talk to Evertonys now and you can name that one to a living, you know, not forgetting Richo and Alan Harper as well, but that was a team and a group of players that could have achieved so much more. Especially when you see Stauwbogarys, won't you? Yeah, exactly. In terms of moving forward, obviously, we're here now on the film. What's it like saying the latter game? Is it it? I suppose the different way and we're Paul Stonys fans that you're still here, so that's great that you're with the club, but was it like getting back in the room with the latter game? Really, because in everybody, everything that we've done in the past when we have met up, people can't believe how friendly we are and how well we got on and we just say, well, we're just like friends, we're just like pals, we're just like mates, and it's just the same as a Sunday League football team we all meet up and have a good crack and have a few beers and it's just basically the same. The lads have not changed, the lads have not changed. They've all went on and done different things now, they're all, you know, all over the world, some of the best all over the world, but when the opportunity to get them back, they will come back, they want to come back, and that was part and parcel of our team and what we were all about. We were like decent footballers, but we got on so well off the field as well as on the field and that helps grow. The camaraderie on the pitch would look after ourselves and we're talking about it today and seeing the last of the day and we'd talk about if your mate gets in trouble and Howard was always a great believer and saying, listen, if you're out all together and one mate gets into trouble, I want everybody going to help him. He says, so the same applies on the pitch so that's the kind of spirit we had and as I said, meeting up with them again is great. They still speak to Andy and Reedy Regley but meeting up with some of the other guys, Trevor, Awade, obviously we see Derek here as well, but seeing the guys so it's great because it's as if nothing's changed. Yeah, a bit older, a bit more weight. Some of us have anyway. Some of us have, make your own conclusions with that one. That's what it's all about. We were very fortunate to play for a fantastic football club and a fantastic team for the football club, but at the beginning it was hard but we had the passion and desire to go and prove people wrong. You know, whether it be supporters or other clubs or yourself or if you were left out the side you had that passion and desire that you were going to get back in. We had that in space and we talk about all the players and we need them on to the living part. The guys behind the scenes, Colin Harvey, deserves a lot of credit, Howard, obviously. He goes as far as John Clincard, the physio. They all done their own job and they're all in it so much. There was no cleaks, there was no bad eggs in the dressing. Everybody got on well because they had one goal. The one goal was to be as successful as we possibly could. Unfortunately for us, that was true up to a point but we just never got that chance to do it in the European Cup. I suppose finally the only real sad thing is that Howard isn't there just to see this film made and be able to get all together one more time. Yeah, well, they're doing a good night with them, put it that way. It would be a good night anyway but it would have been a better one obviously if Howard was there. This team he was held in when you look at his funeral and the people who attended that, the supporters and he was always great to be around good as a part when you used to come to the games and watch the first team play. He was a massive miss. It's not the same come to the game in his wife Lily's here. We see her regularly kind of thing but he was great. Even when he wasn't managing to be away from it he was just coming here as a spectator. He was still the life and soul of the party and he was a great guy. We didn't always obviously didn't always see eye to eye with him. We had our arguments and everything else but there was never one to let things fester and affect the team and everything else so he was really great to play for and he was a great guy and he knew how to manage a group of players and that was his management skills maybe not approved to everybody but he made sure he brought everybody on board and everybody who played for them I think there's not many who would say a bad word about them. Brilliant way to finish big thanks. No problem, thank you very much.