 So what were some of your reactions when you saw the video? What goes through your mind when you see this? For the third time, for the fourth time? What goes through your mind? When I definitely saw that video, it should mean ever seen in which way I could. And yet we have been in this rolling ball, like a snow. It's continuing on as far as we've seen it every day. We've come almost in agrees with it. But now with media and everyone getting in contact so much faster than the world before, now more are being able to speak up. And in my opinion of what people are already been seeing, we know what the police can do. We know that they're going to get us. We know that they can shoot us. Those fears have already been established. But as far as me and myself or other people may feel, we feel that disconnect work. What else can you do to us that we've not already gone through? But the all-concerning one shook me. I saw other people watching it as well. And as soon as you see the shot being pointed at, well, initially I thought it was the head, but eventually being the chest, either way it's a one-shot kill. Once you heard the shots ring out, everybody just freezes for a second. You see a quick shock on their face. And that was the first video that actually shook me to the bone more than any other one. I think that might be a fuel to all the passion that's been going on as well. When I became Muslim, that was the first time I was educated about discrimination. And it made me, it broke my heart. Even right now I want to cry, thinking about my past life, what I did. It breaks my heart when my family does help. And it truly sad. Education is the key. We need to have education. Everybody is where we all matter. What I see and what I reflect upon is myself being a child of the late 60s and 68, 69. To me, I see repetition. I don't see a change. All my life it's what I've seen. I don't see a change. I remember when Martin Luther King spoke, and I was a young girl, and I remember his words were words of peace and trying to start with the boycotts. But I think the generation today, the words of Martin Luther King have been voided out and now there's a new perspective on how things should take place. And I actually agree with the youth today. What happened years ago and the small change that it has made, I don't see a large change, but the small change that it has taken place, I think that youth today, the direction that they want to go, and not violence, but the direction that they want to go to change our Black Lives Matter needs to go forward. After seeing so many killings, even my own father, I've seen my father beaten by a white man just because he was black, because he wouldn't go to the back of the bus. I was there. I saw this. So seeing what has happened from back in the late 60s to now, I see no change. I've heard these stories from my parents and my grandparents, and it's unfortunate that in this day and age when I'm raising my own children that we're seeing, and the only difference is our technology has changed, that people are now to the point where they're less fearful of the retaliation and more apt to pull out a phone and record regardless of police intimidation. I really believe that's the only thing that's changed. You can't watch those videos and not be shaken. Being the mother of a black son, I can't watch the Philando Castile video and see a man in compliance legally carrying a firearm, which I happen to legally carry a firearm most of the time, not now. We're good. But to see him and know that that is the procedure that when I'm stopped by a police officer I'm going to tell you that I have a firearm in my vehicle to show you my concealed handgun license and to know that that is even not good enough to peacefully comply, I fear for the world that my son is a black man who's being raised in. Documentation that demonstrates that a certain population is experiencing racism to an extreme degree, whereas there's this huge outrage for five police officers who were slain by one individual. So I think All Lives Matter is this blanket statement that's used to pacify people into not actually having these types of discussions or dialogue that confront the reality is that the United States is a very racist country. I think that the hashtag All Lives Matter is wrong because it wasn't just like randomly thrown out there. It was in response to Black Lives Matter and so that's what makes it wrong because Black Lives Matter it's not meant to say that only their lives matter, no one else's matter. It's just emphasizing that right now at this moment Black Lives Matter Black Lives are being degraded and they need to matter more. I don't understand why are we asking so much of people who have been oppressed? Give them a hashtag. We're taking the benefit of the doubt away from them which I think is ridiculous. I don't think we should talk about the cops we should talk about everything as a whole. You're agreeing to that system that is inherently corrupt and it started on purpose to separate people and you see that nowadays you know how because there's still Black children who go to school and learn their answers were slaves. They go to school and they learn that and they live in those poverty areas and they never get out. It's a cycle they never get out. They don't. They stay in that system. They never get out. So we have to think of that as a whole when those people are living in those situations and they can't get out what are you supposed to do? You're supposed to help them. Give them the benefit of the doubt the same way you can benefit of the doubt for a cop who has authority. Period. There needs to be a focus on this. Cops not only should be not only do we see them above us they should be held to a higher standard and be held to a higher accountability and when we see them kill people on the streets they're held to a lesser accountability. The indictment rate for police officers is way less than your average indictment for any crime. It's not even a charge. It's not even a conviction. It's an indictment just to see whether it's going to go to court or not and there's a huge problem there. It's difficult for me to have any respect towards the authority of a police officer if I don't see any police unions saying that hey what happened with Philando Castro is bad. What happened with Alton Sterling is bad. They stand together. It's this awful fraternity of people that work together to defend each other for the crimes that they do. The other day the basketball players in the Minnesota leagues with that WNB I think it's maybe just two days ago wore shirts and saw Alton Sterling and Philando Castile and the cops that were monitoring the game left. They're just supposed to be public servants that have no regard for the biases of people or their opinions but because they saw that these black women and white women were against the murder of innocent black men they left. It's an awful fraternity that the system of cops the way that they work together the way that they protect each other the way that the court systems protect them needs to be completely rearranged and dismantled for a system that holds cops more accountable and a system that puts more power into the hands of civilians for determining whether cops are guilty of crimes or not. Yeah, I mean just to add to that point I mean whether or not there's good cops or bad cops is pretty irrelevant because even if you're a good person who has to be a police officer unless you're actually going to stand up and speak out against the horrible atrocities that happen I mean on a constant basis it doesn't matter whether or not you're actually a good person you're still complicit in that whole system and also I mean as far as justice goes I mean when the person who was shooting down cops in Dallas that person was killed by the police that crime was ended but when a police officer kills people there's almost never any accountability there's no jail sentence often times they're just put on administrative leave often times with pay there's just no accountability and there's no justice on both sides so as far as that goes there's no way you can put it on any equal footing I don't think. As people say there's coming out with like not all cops, right? That's fine, right? But it's all the system, right? You are a cop, you are held to a higher standard than civilians are, period, right? We're taught to look up to them and respect them that's my safety and caregiver when I'm in trouble and if I can't trust them because I'm two shades darker or however dark I am to shoot me then what's the point? And immediately whenever you have authority in this country you have higher standards and as a cop you're stressed that's what you're prepared to that's your job, you know? And you're going out all day doing your job don't abuse your power and follow the standards that you're given to protect your community there's absolutely no excuse you took that job on those are your standards I wrote a sign that a white guy had said God hates bags and had the Nazi swastika I got arrested because I wrote that guy a sign because apparently I created violence because that guy was there to instigate and he knew what he was doing and then I got arrested in front of McManus and all he said was congratulations to his police officers so I have no sympathy as a cop it gets shot because a cop signed up for that job he's supposed to protect and serve and if those words don't mean for them anything then what do the words mean for not only the white narrative but also the intersectionality of our lives whether we're including also black lives in a Muslim community in this non-fate we also include the black lives within the Latino communities there's heavy traffic there's heavy targets on it and cops find any excuse to shoot anybody they're trigger happy they have been shown and proven the redocuments of women calling through data is that if they fail in one state or in one city they can vote in another state that's what happened with Tamiri Rice officer who killed him that happened with Crawford police officers there's cops who are getting literally jobs as security people and they continue to do the same thing because they haven't done like I worked at a bar where the security guys probably like five out of six there were cops and they're not only in there just to protect but they're actually even harass women they're harass queer and they're harass black people so no I don't think the cops need to be discussed cops need to be dismantled because of the fact that they will do and continue to do everything they want whether they get paid or not I'm white American and it's very sad that there's prejudice and it goes back to the slavery we have never really cared about people in it all the way back to slavery time we've never really cared we brought them over here and we didn't care we took them from their home land some of them were Muslim and we took them away from their own roots their religion and we forced them into something that they were not and now we're trying to we're still trying to bring them down and we should not bring anybody down we should be fair amongst across the board with everybody